They’re both bad, but which one do you think has worse writing?
>>151828617Helluva Boss easilyHazbin Hotel has flaws but is atleast charmingHelluva Boss is just a mess>You liked the villains? Oh well we are gonna make them a joke on the next episode they appear >You like Loona? Here are some crumbs but remember this is the Stolitz show>You don't like Stolas? FUCK YOU STOLAS IS A SPECIAL BOY AND THE SHOW WILL FOCUS ON HIM AND HIS RELATIONSHIPS
>>151828617Hazbin is kind of gay and retarded but Helluva is like excessively gay and retarded and doesn't even remember what its appeal was anymore. O can tolerate Hazbin but Helluva is genuinely bad at this point.
>>151828934I just listen to the songs and watch the MV for HH, I’ve never watched an actual episode, I can’t stand any of the actual dialogue
>>151828617HB is much more gay, but it at least has some worthwhile girlsHH only has a bunch of lesbians
>>151829105Honestly it's the best way to go about it, the actual story is so disappointing that I wish I did the same as you and filled the gaps with my own imagination. I wonder if it would have been better if it was done like Epic the Musical.
>>151828880>FUCK YOU STOLAS IS A SPECIAL BOY AND THE SHOW WILL FOCUS ON HIM AND HIS RELATIONSHIPSI think it says a lot that Stolas absolutely deserved to be punished for focusing more on his imp fuckbuddy than his own daughter, and yet Octavia actually abandoning him still felt stupid and forced. I don't know how they managed to accomplish that.
>>151829115Both have some primo side/background girls however.
>>151829292The writing is hilariously manipulative, same for that scene with Blitzo feeling bad about killing the gay couple
>>151829243>Epic the Musical.Is it any good? I've not listened to it but it shows up in my recommended a lot
>>151829430I think the Hazbin songs mog it but I really like the idea behind it, it's definitely a pretty tumblrized retelling but since we're in a Hellaverse thread so you should have some built-in tolerancehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=skVSbITX4kYhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=dA8R3XNdXjQ
>>151829375>The writing is hilariously manipulativeNothing will be as eye-rolling to me than that sign language kid sceneIs specially jarring when you see how much the show defanged FizzHell maybe I would have liked the scene if Fizz still had the assholery energy he had on the Ozzies episode but then in that moment he showed his good side
>>151829430There are some incredibly stupid moments that fly in the face of the original story, but for the most part it captures the emotions pretty well. The Slaughter of the Suitors is handled particularly well in my opinion.
>>151829292it's because stolas can't be shown to have any flaws whatsoever, so octavia can't be allowed to bring up any of the actually shitty things stolas has done
>>151828617I'd say both suffer from different type of shitty writing here.also both definitely needed actual writters to properly build a good story with proper pacing, also both needed 20 episodes of season 1 in order to build the characters and world around them.it is so bareboned that fanfics and fancomics literally surpassed their respective shows.
Better yet, which one do you think has a worse fandom?
>>151830333Helluva for the Stolasfags
>>151830333Helluva, the show's clearly gone done the tubes and they get insanely defensive about it. Hazbinfags can at least be critical of the show, Helluvafags act like it's just as good as the pilot promised.
>>151829243>I wish I did the same as you and filled the gaps with my own imaginationHonestly I think this is the only piece of media where I actively just headcanon my own plot and series of events. I was almost tempted to watch cause Emily is such a qt, but fuck, everything else is so terrible.
>>151830678Emily is a qt and dumb in an endearing way unlike Charlie
>>151830678Oh I didn't know that, fuck that sucks
>>151830869I can justify her not knowing any better because of Sera sheltering her and her having ever only known the best of humanity (how fucking old is she supposed to be anyway? Is she supposed to be a newborn seraphim?).Charlie's innocence is supposed to come from her parents protecting her, but she sees people cannibalizing each other on the street and loves sinners because ???. Not saying Emily is well written, I just can understand why she is the way she is.
>>151830545the pilot was fucking shit, if you said season 1 then i'd understand you