I hate to sound like yet another 40 year old stuck in a state of arrested development but I just watched some episodes of this because I had a free trial of Amazon Prime and it really is heads and shoulders better than the cartoons of the era and pretty much everything today. Why was it so good?
It was made by only men who took it seriously.
My opinion is a little more tempered because it feels somewhat...soft. Bruce seems like a more sensitive and empathetic person than I would expect from someone with his worldview.Like I always picture Batman as someone who isn't necessarily interested in making things better, exactly, but wants to eliminate crime for its own sake. He strikes me as someone who puts more focus on taking down criminals than the satisfaction that doing so that doing so makes Gotham a better place to live (I guess seeing it more as an effect of the work he does rather than the driving motivation).TAS Batman has more of that humanitarian mentality that doesn't really align with my matured view of the character as an adult.
>>151838758In other words duty born of anger, not altruism. That kernel of reality resides at the heart of Batman's heroic motivation and colors everything he does and how he acts.
How would a Bluey crossover work?>>151838758>softright, like Bluey
>>151838758Im fine with Batman being portrayed as dark but not grimdark. One of my favorite lines from the show is when Robin suggests they watch “It’s A Wonderful Life” on Christmas. Batman says “I could never get past the title.” Great line and I think communicates his underlying cynicism very well.
>>151838728Fpbp/thread
>>151838051It's lightning in a bottle. They pulled together some of the best talent of every field relating to animation and gave them a budget of "I don't care just get it done". Respected actors in recurring roles, a fully orchestrated soundtrack, an iconic art style brought to life by some of the best animation studios in the world (most of the time), writing that respected for the audience's intelligence and maturity... it basically grabbed people by the jaw and went "THIS is animation".
>>151838051It’s very likely the writing, and how it often doesn’t need to talk down to the viewer like most shows today.
>>151838728>only menNot quite. I'll grant you that the driving force behind writing and direction are absolutely men, but a glance at the full cast shows more than a few women working behind the scenes. Notably, Andrea Romano is a legendary casting director and Shirley Walker composed and conducted much of the music and was a major name in the business. The real takeaway is that everyone took it seriously, and it shows.
>>151838758Grumpy Batman has always been shit, it's this desire to push to extremes by cape onlys and then they wonder why people same capeshitters can't into nuance. Fuck Frank Miller and DKR btw, I always hated how some writers tried to make him a non human lump of anger that just drove people away and ended up miserable in the end. The Batman I grew up with suffered trauma as a kid and grew up wanting to spare others of that pain, he had a rough exterior but he cared, he put his body, time and mind in the service of others and that's noble, it's why scenes like him talking to Leslie wondering if he's even making a difference are so strong that my 7 year old brain can remember it for 25 years.
>>151839070What exactly is it with cape shitters and wanting everything to be as violent and dark as possible? My social media algorithm shows me panels from various comic books and its always some sort of popular superhero getting horribly mutilated or killed. Like when I saw recently where Sandman kills Spider-Man by causing him to explode from the inside and it’s just unnecessarily gruesome
It's so much better than The Crapman 2004 on Kids WB.
>>151838051>one of the greatest animated shows of all time is still one of the greatest animated shows of all timeHonestly it was so much better than just about anything else airing back then.
>>151839457Yeah, this started airing in 1992. Not long before, the best they could manage was fucking GI Joe. Robotech doesn't count because it was literally just a slightly mangled dub of Macross. BTAS heralded a whole new era for TV animation.
>>151839476BtAS was always carried by the extraordinary work by the villains and their voice actors, and the fact that Batrman has a weird and wonderful collection of rogues, and BtAS did a fine representation of them. Batman himself was pretty cut and dry StAS had in even dullero in Superman, and the villains were for the most part not cool enough to carry the seriess to BtaS glory. Justice League doubled down on this, the Trinity were dull and "Iconic", you had the most straight-laced Green Lantern in Stewart, spr srs Martian Manhunter, only The Flash kept things light. It was probably the low point of the Timm-verse.Unlimited is where it finally broke free from revolving around dull heroes and relying on villains to have energy. Even the live movies seem to constantly drop the ball on compelling villains. You need to have a very exciting collection of heroes to skimp on the villain (GotG for example).
>>151839635Holy crap is 4chan having the image swap issue AGAIN? Because I do not own an image of Star.
>>151839119Cape shitters are self conscious about liking capeshit comics, and this BS is how they cope with that and tell everyone including themselves their taste is actually super mature.
>>151838051... You sound like yet another 40-year-old stuck in a state of arrested development.
>>151838051It was made when everything wasn't swamped in irony, identity politics and the need to "subvert expectations" by pissing on the viewer for caring about the series.
