>could save thousands of innocent people's lives with a simple action>doesnt do it because of "morality" or some stupid shit like thatWhy do people like Batman again?
>>151847480He doesn't do it because the joker is popular and we were never supposed to worry that heavily about continuity in serialized story telling.
>>151847480He used to kill all the time during the Golden Age, he even tried to kill the Joker multiple times (hit him in the had with a brick and put him inside a building castle, dropped a blimp on top of him as it exploded and so on), Penguin got sentenced to death, he punched Hugo Strange off a cliff and so on, the villains always just came back without explanation for the most part back then
How would Joker react if Batman genuinely started going for the kill?
>>151847480>Why didn’t Voldemort just kill the baby>Why doesn’t Lex Luther bribe city hall to outlaw Superman>Why don’t time travelers just sterilize Hitler’s parents>Why doesn’t Batman just shoot [x]And ruin the plot?
>bro y dont da batman kill da bad guy instead of being a weird fag obsessed with rehabilitation great thread this question and topics never been thought of before and truly is a question for the ages. >Why do people like Batman?Wow. One can only wonder.
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>>151847545If your plot is so easily ruined then it's already ruined
>>151847576Yes, anon, that’s the joke. I’m glad you’ve finished fifth grade
>>151847545Voldemort tried. It backfired.Lex is always pulling shit like that.Hitler was a product of his environment. If not him then someone else.
>>151847633Honestly, you’d be surprised how many normies ask stupid questions Ike that like they’re somehow “smoking guns” without even considering the obvious answers
>>151847606Good save
>>151847545This level of foolishness is suspicious. Might be a bot?
Murder is not the action of a hero. Every hero basically has this rule, even if they don't go off about it all the time.They're already essentially committing a crime by suiting up as vigilantes in the first place. They shouldn't deputize themselves and name themselves executioners too. Why don't they just become gods at that point?
Injustice did irreversible damage to DC
>>151847867If the courts are too corrupt to execute him and the prisons too incompetent to hold him, what recourse is there? At that point the hero's moral high ground robs the victims of justice.
>>151847480>Batman kills Jokeman>That wasn't actually Jokeman>Jokeman tricked Batman into killing a patsy in disguise>Jokeman returns>Batman kills Jokeman>That wasn't actually Jokeman>Jokeman tricked Batman into killing a patsy in disguise>Jokeman returns>Batman kills Jokeman>That wasn't actually Jokeman>Jokeman tricked Batman into killing a patsy in disguiseJokeman's face when.
>>151847889So why don’t the cops or civilians do it themselves?
>>151847910Yeah, why don't they? Why won't they? And if they won't, who will?
>>151847910They've tried. Batman stops them.
It's not Batman's fault the Joker keeps escaping.It's actually your fault because you prefer recurring villains to stories where a new guy gets caught and locked up every arc.And for this same reason, even if Batman killed Joker, he'd just come back to life, because you want to read more Joker.And so nothing would be solved and you'd have ruined Batman on top of it.
Why do we need these same threads over and over and over?
>>151847480when the no kill rule was established, batman villains weren't mass murderers
>>151847506>He used to kill all the time during the Golden Age,For like 5 issues.
>>151847975But hey, at least he’s not a killer, amirite?
>>151847480>The Flash: being Batman is a waste of money >Joker War: Batman launders money from a bunch of charities to fund himselfAt what point does DC go full “eat the rich” and make Joker the protagonist
>>151848086They tried doing that with Gotham WarEveryone was pissed
There is legitimately nothing stopping any one of (You) from doing the same to some pharmaceutical CEO who purposely raises the price of life saving medicine by 1000% just so he can afford his fourth yacht. If you can't do it, then why should Batman?
>>151847480How would Joker react if Batman raped him?
>>151847545>Why didn’t Voldemort just kill the babyIt's harder than it sounds.
>>151848248Can’t rape the willing
>>151847480How would Joker react if Batman raped himself using Joker?
Why doesnt Bruce give money to charity and other institutions to bring some real social to Gotham instead of just beating up poor people and the mentally ill?He sounds like a fascist to me.
>>151848430Imagine Batman making fun of joker for enjoying it. Joker would regain his sanity just to prevent himself from becoming gay.
>>151848443He does do those things
>>151848443Because Bruce is deeply mentally ill.
What if Batman just got really, really unhinged? Like he just starts getting really vicious, zany and crazy to the point he's out-crazying the Joker solely to fuck with him.
>>151847975There's actually a doujinshi that adressed this very concept.
>>151848530Do tell
>>151847880>Injustice did irreversible damage to DCYeah, it showed that they are actually capable of making comics which are tons of fun to read, but they just flat out refuse to.
>>151848644>comics which are tons of fun to readWhat's that have to do with Injustice?
>>151847889It's not the heros job to do that. Nobody made the hero do anything. It's really not even their job to intervene, they do everything voluntarily, even against the wishes of others sometimes.The only recourse is to get better at stopping him before he hurts people. Most, if not all, of these rogues cant be executed by the courts anyway because they are legally insane.
>>151848677>It's really not even their job to interveneYet he prevents people from killing the mass murderer who keeps evading the death penalty and escaping prison. That makes him a villain.
>>151848694>>151848677Batman doesn’t kill because he is mentally ill and associates all killing with the death of his parents. It’s not that hard to understand.
>>151848702Yeah, this kinda shit is why people are reading manga.
>one friend has a gun that can trap someone in another dimension >on a team with multiple space cops yet won't ask them about vacancies in their space prison >regarded as the world's greatest martial artist but unable to permanently cripple anyone that isn't a purse snatcher batman should be a assburger with a unwavering moral compass so really there is nothing wrong with the no-kill rule. the problem is this guy is both a paranoid turbo-autismo that has multiple backup plans for his backup plans while at the same time he just dumps the joker back in the nuthouse because surely he won't escape and murder 1/4 of gotham again.
>>151848757A Batman who kills is no different from a one man lynch mob.
>>151848694No. In a legal sense, knowing that someone is about to be murdered and doing nothing about it makes you just as culpable as the killer.
>>151848702This is a cop out. He doesn't kill because to do so is an easy solution to a more difficult problem.Okay, let's say we murder Joker. Whose to say that doesn't make him a martyr and a whole clan of Jokers pops up in his place? We stopped the Joker, but what if he leaves a power vacuum? How do you know you're not just cutting off one hydra head to be replaced by two more?
>>151847545Yeah man, and for that matter, why didn't Sauron just make another ring for himself?
>>151848982Yeah because Batman cares so much about legality as an illegal vigilante.
>kill Joker>Joker just comes back anywayWhy doesn't Batman do this, then? Clearly, sending villains to hell is just a decent enough prison.
>>151849004>Whose to say that doesn't make him a martyr and a whole clan of Jokers pops up in his place?Batman Beyond addressed this with the Jokerz. Sure, they can paint their faces and make stupid jokes as they try to shoot you with a bang flag gun, but no one is going to go to the lengths the Joker does for crime, and if anyone tries then they'll quickly back down when they realize just how fucking dangerous it is to be a Batman villain - especially if they're dealing with a Batman who just showed he's willing to kill if you piss him off enough.
>>151849021Fair point, but he probably tries to operate within the law as much as possible, outside of that, admittedly glaring, thing.
>>151849105It's the DC Universe and it's Gotham. Someone will try to take his place. And sure, maybe they wont go all out freako like Joker does, but they'll still be trying to emulate him, which is still bad.
Why doesn't Batman just get Joker addicted to crack so he gets so obsessed with it that he's too busy getting more crack to bother Gotham?
>>151848443Bruce gives so much to social services that I legit think Wayne Enterprises is the sole thing keeping Gotham afloat, any other big company would have moved out to a safer city and leave it to be condemned.
Why doesn't Batman just Johnny Got His Gun the Joker?
>>151849198you want some crack with that?
>>151849021He works with the GCPD on numerous occasions, if he was to commit an extrajudicial killing while fighting crime, then it would be a huge scandal. Any villains with a stake in a newspaper would have the front pages say "MASKED VIGILANTE MURDERS MENTALLY ILL MAN"
>Batman cripples the Joker and leaves him rolling in a wheelchair like stephen hawking
>>151847480Why do you fags keep asking this question?
>>151849745>picBatman stops them
>>151849745The date on this screencap indicating that the poster said this shit after Clownhunter really enhances it. DC created a character whose most important trait was "kills Joker mooks". He literally killed criminals, at least 20. And the fiction itself warped around him such that he was denied the chance to finish his job, nominally for the sake of redeeming his soul, but really because this shit isn't allowed to end.
>>151849745if their argument as to why batman should kill people is "killing people is fine as long as it saves more people" then you have a moral argument thats even easier to deconstruct with ethical philosophy 101its bitchass utilitarianism ands its even less useful as a universal moral framework than the typical kantian morales batman uses
>>151848665I guess he's implying the injustice comics were good or something
>>151847504>we were never supposed to worry that heavily about continuity in serialized story tellingThat's retarded.
>>151848758>>one friend has a gun that can trap someone in another dimensionHe tried this in the Lego Batman movie. It didn't work. Joker got out.
>>151847480what i'm more upset about is that the batman is firmly against murder but is totally fine with even worse actions, like torture. killing someone is just ending a life, but the batman deliberately maximizes suffering when it suits his needs and/or he wants to do it.
>>151847480thats every superhero ever
>>151847867>Murder is not the action of a hero. Every hero basically has this rule, even if they don't go off about it all the time.It's more a trope of Super hero comics, mainly because they don't want to get rid of characters cause that threatens the sacred status quo. The Term "no kill rule" comes from cape comics. Heroes in any other genre are very happy to kill the bad guys. From 2d platformers video games to high fantasy books to 80s action flicks to even children's animated shows the hero could kill the bad guys and the audience wouldn't really think about it. Sure the average heroes wasn't doing a genocide run and would usual try to give the bad guy a chance to surrender but 9/10 times a villain like the joker would be dead by the end of the story in any other genre.>>151847545>Why didn’t Voldemort just kill the babyOh he tried but it back fired on him>Why doesn’t Lex Luther bribe city hall to outlaw SupermanI am pretty sure there are several comics where he actually does this>Why don’t time travelers just sterilize Hitler’s parentsCause shooting Hitler is more satisfying. But in all seriousness most stories reveal messing with history tend to lead to worse situations majority of the time>Why doesn’t Batman just shoot [x]Batman's morality.Every other example usually has someone failing to take the action, batman is the only one you listed that just won't cause he chooses not to.
>>151847480>batman kills jokeman>suddenly cant use the most popular villain in all of media anymore outside of flashbacks or "actually he didnt die cause he fell into a vat of alive juice for the ten thousandth time"shrimple as that. give bats a no kill rule and he can be a moralfag AND they can bring back the joker literally all the time without having to think.
>>151851346No. I mean it’s literally not heroic at all to kill. Most of what you’re talking about was probably done in battle or in self-defense, those aren’t the same. Every hero opposes killing. First example I can think of is Avatar. Aang made it a point to say he would not murder the fire lord and he didn’t.
>>151847480>Why do people like Batman again? cuz he's got cool gadgets and a cape
>>151847480Realistically the state would have had Joker killed years ago.
>>151847480you could just read the punisher instead
