How the fuck did this happen? How is this real?
its called estrogen honey uwu
>>151865853This wasn't a problem in the show's original run, so why is it a problem now?
Still thinking about how my parents were switching channels and when they switched to Cartoon Network it showed Cheerleader Gumball showing them his ass.
>>151866035Show me an example of something this egregious in the original run. You have a boy in lipstick with exaggerated hips twerking his ass at the camera like a whore in a show for kids. Well, it's supposed to be for kids, but they don't have money anymore. The adults are the kids now, but now they have direct access to the wallet now. So they put shit like this in because they know a large contingent of their adult child demographic jerks off to and draws porn of the characters. The issue extends to the animators and those in charge because ultimately they're just more talented versions of the eternal children created by the age of children's advertisement and marketing so of course the weird sex shit, the increased presence of 'jokes for the adults watching' in shows which used to be there for parents who might be watching with their kids but are now for the adult fans, the focus of 'lore' which only later stage teens and adults on social media care about but kids obviously don't. This one is just absurd, honestly. It's so over the top and excessive that it's jarring.
>>151866145Did you get a boner? No? Then what's the problem? If you got a boner, then it's oversexualized and also you're a pederast. If you didn't get a boner, then it's not oversexualized and you're not a pederast. Which is it, chief?
>>151865853keep it coming
>>151866154>You think THIS isn't appropriate to show kids?!>What did you get HARD? Please don't project onto me.
>>151866170I was laughing because the joke is that Gumball is such a narcissist he thinks "bad" means "baddie" and it was absurd. Why are you mad, bro?
>>151866189That's lovely. It's not even a bad joke. I liked the subversion on the 'Bad' label, and him being a 'diva bitch' is totally fine. Do you think that gag could've been achieved without the main character presenting?
>>151866189There's no kid on earth who would think bad = tranny shit
>>151865853Just dropped recentlyhttps://files.catbox.moe/ft2mhq.jpg
>>151866208>>151866215Are you both pretending to be retarded on purpose? Is this what you kids call "trolling"?
>>151866230If you think that and the OP are seriously comparable, then you're tapped.
>>151866228>that pose
>>151866255Define "presenting" then, since from my perspective you're so desperate for attention on Christmas Day that you're posting stupid shit for (You)s.
>>151866228This one is the best so far!
>>151866273Twerking. That was pretty clear from the context. This:>>151866170Would you agree that showing your ass to someone and shaking it up and down could be construed as a "presentation", Anon? Or are we being purposefully obtuse on the day of Our Lord's birth, which is apparently relevant here.
>>151865853Perhaps that's the advantage of being broadcast on Hulu and benefiting from greater creative freedom.
>>151866309The ass is pointed away from everyone else. He's not presenting it to anyone you goober.>"he's presenting it to the viewer"Okay. Did you get turned on?>"no"Then it's not sexual, and if it's not sexual then it can't be oversexualized.That's the end of the discussion, UNLESS you want to tell the class that baddie Gumball twerking got you bricked up.
>>151866323So I'm clear in your line of reasoning. Because I don't personally find a cartoon of a little cat boy shaking his ass in drag arousing, then it's not overly sexualized? What's your opinion on scat, guro, vore, and toddlercon, Anon? I don't find those things arousing either, but I'd argue they're sexual as well.
Pearls are being on 4chan of all places, amazing.
>>151866365Clutched*
Gooners on suicide watch against basic argumentation.
>>151866343Everything you just listed isn't allowed in kids' cartoons because of something called a "television content rating system", and said rating system has given Gumball a PG rating. Which is more reasonable to you: A ratings board liable for a civil suit intentionally lowered the rating of, or allowed this episode to air with a false rating, OR (and brace for this one) you're clutching at pearls?
>>151866228way too big. i hate when artists over exaggerate. like he is already officially off model in the episode, and you go and make him 10x bigger to the point it becomes gross
>>151866356WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS SHOW?!
>>151866389That wasn't my point. Please don't go on side tangents. I asked you if you think those things are arousing and if you don't then do you think they're not sexual because of that? No one argued any of that should be in a kid show. Argue with me, not a strawman of me.
>>151866365>>151866380>Pearls are being clutched on 4chan first day?
>>151865853Since when did cartoon audiences become so prudish?! A cat boy with a bad bitch attitude, does that traumatize you that much?!You're reacting like conservative, bigoted parents
>>151866418You're the one going on a side tangent bringing up things not related to the scene you're bitching about. You can't have it both ways. Are we going on tangents, or are we talking about the scene?
>>1518663654chan has been full of reddit normies for a long time now. the old 4chan culture is long gone. it is just anonymous reddit now.
IS... IS THAT... IS THAT A CARTOON CAT BOY ACTING LIKE A BAD BITCH?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAANE
>>151866432I'm directly challenging one of your arguments that because I don't personally get hard to whatever is going on in the OP that means it's not sexual. Stay on task. I'm illustrating with my example that your logic is incredibly flawed.
>>151866456I really needed to read that. Wow...If my logic were flawed, then you wouldn't be so desperate to "prove" me wrong. Normal people don't waste time arguing with the illogical.Just so we're clear: If it's true that you think my logic is flawed and you're still arguing with me, then you're insane. If you're insane, then it's illogical for me to converse with you. Therefore, I'm going to stop conversing with you, and you're going to continue being insane, and bootyblasted about a cartoon.
>>151866440See:>>151866208Still haven't gotten an answer to this one. Though I haven't actually had any of my points directly challenged, just side stepped, so please.
>>151866228Finally someone made porn of hunk Darwin idc about Nicole fusion or femboy Gumball I REQUIRE MORE MUSCLED DARWIN
>>151866487Right. You didn't actually say anything there or before and refused to engage with the conversation, opting instead to misinterpret me and being up unrelated, easier to argue points. But I'll give another shot by laying out my points as simply as possible. >Could this gag have been achieved with Gumball keeping his same proportions and not twerking?>Is something inherently sexual only under the circumstance that the viewer personally gets aroused?That's all.
Troons won.
>>151866228hes such a good girl
>>151866582Darwin is giving her correction~
kinda bummed we didn't get bad boy gumball
>>151866228I hate how this is ironically canon to the show Penny getting cucked so bad by Darwin every single time, its just like the writers are giving a middle finger to pennycucks..
Remember. The Gooner is ideologically weak. Their morals extend as far as their own pleasure and they will eschew any reason if it gets in the way of their carnal self-gratification. You're not arguing with normal people. You're arguing with addicts. They have naught but crumbling wasteland to tip toe upon.
>>151866356I think we don't give enough credit to what the afroqueer subculture brings to geek pop culture in general.
>thread full of sissies that get upset at seeing some cartoon cat misinterpret being called "Bad"Even on Christmas some of y'all are such wieners
>>151866696I just want the porn artists to commit to full on rule 63 Bimbo Gumball.
>>151866696If it's just a silly joke for kids, why didn't they do it with a girl?
>>151866696That's obviously not the issue.
seems a bit intentional that they made Gumball interpret it as "Nicki Minaj backup dancer" and not "badass biker dude". I don't think it's wrong to say they were hoping for internet porn artists to draw Gumball like this, or that the showrunners are using controversy as advertising. It's like how shows these days will stuff in "meme faces" in an attempt to go viral and be the next spongebob
>>151866720Fair>>151866763Everyone got stupid labels put on them, didn't you watch the epi-Oh yeah, you clearly didn't>>151866801Seems that way to me
>>151865853People involved with the show feel comfortable with blatant fetishization because they know no children are watching, just gooner men. There's no joke, there's nothing comedic about it. Its just crude sexuality for the sake of it
>>151866851This.
>>151866851Why do you find this arousing, anon?
>PPG reboot has twerking jokes>"this is terrible why did they add this">AWoG has twerking jokes>"pearl clutchers btfo"
>>151866876N-NO THAT WAS D-DIFFERENT SOMEHOW!
>>151865853Looks like James Charles or Whis from Dragon Ball. And by that I mean there's a scent of vaseline and ass so I guess they did their research
>>151866876Sidenote, but don't you find it interesting that the context of both of these twerking scenes also happened to have some kind of mind control involved? Weird coincidence there...
>>151866035This.Stupid fucking tourists.
>>151866876>>151866881>PPG reboot is dogshit with worse animation an characters>"n-no, I swear their only problem was the twerk!"
upsetting moralfag redditbrains is the only good thing about gumball
>>151866919Then why is that scene always cited as one of the biggest issues with the show in basically every critique of it?
>>151866881 Both were jokes about how kids twerking is a fucking weird sight, one just emphasized it's creepy to watch and the other emphasized how stupid the dancer looked compared to how they thought they did, so they both accomplished what they set out to do.
>>151866871Stop being obtuse. If you think changing the character model of a child from a blob to something with defined legs and a protruding ass, then having them perform a drag queen routine isn't sexualized, you're mindbrokenProtip: having him flash panties while falling is sexualized as well, just not as egregious as this episode.
>>151866936Because people are idiots and cannot even criticize bad things coherently.
>>151866953Why do you watch this show to find arousing imagery, anon?
>>151866943I think we all know already that sexualizing children is weird without multiple cartoons depicting it to their mostly child audiences. I don't think we need to see cartoons of kids being sexualized to recognize that.
>>151866976Why are you watching shows that you think sexualize children? Are you a pedophile?
>>151866961It's incoherent to say "children twerking is inappropriate"? I'm just clarifying your words.
>>151865853Oh look, another moral panic... You really don't take a break even at Christmas.
>>151866982Most never get that far, shockingly enough.
>>151866982Arguing from emotion is woman-think which explains why you're acting the bitch right now. Clear enough?
>>151866981You seem really defensive about cartoons of little boys twerking in drag, Anon.
>>151866999You seem obsessed with sexualizing children yourself
>>151866999damn he got trips we gotta split fellas
>>151866994A man is capable of accessing both his logical and empathetic parts of their mind to fully assess a situation. It's childish to believe cold reason is the full human experience and speaks to a profound lack of sociality and experience.
>>151866365I'm an old fag been here since 2016, we have always been like this if you don't like it go back
bad bitches are good for one thing, garnering attention
>>151867035This is exquisite bait lmao xD
>>151867035People back in 2016 were total wieners about jokes that don't land?
>replying to baitshiggy diggy doo
>>151867034Honestly, you'd come off as far less of a pussy if you just said "I get the joke, I just didn't find it funny" instead of going into full Karen "think of the children". Cause neither this nor the PPG twerking were all that funny by themselves.
>>151867035I've been here since 05' and while yes, lolicon and whatnot has always been here, sure. The difference to me is that it was adults posting that kind of thing in an adult space. The scenes people used as basis for porn when I was younger were suggestive, but usually built upon and extrapolated in the art, such as an outfit or something, not literally the middle school main character dressed as a hooker throwing it back at the 4th wall every frame he's on screen as a joke. I don't know. Maybe I am being a little prudish, but I grew up with this unfettered access to sexuality at a young age due to the advent of the internet and it's done irreparable harm to me and to many others in my generation. The desensitation to sex and brutality has clearly affected us, and I personally don't want to send future generations down a similar path. That doesn't mean I'm for ID on the internet and the deplatforming of adult industries, it's clear the governments of the Western world are using the children as an excuse to censor opposition on the internet and control the flow of information more. However, that doesn't change the fact that there is an issue in society in regard to these things. My suggestion would simply be that you must disclose if children live/reside for some time in your household to your ISP and enforced parental controls would be placed on the connection. I don't think that would be too invasive and would allow adults to continue doing what they want at an age it won't have profound effects on them.
>>151867140I'd normally agree with you that completely unfiltered access to sexual imagery from a young age is indeed a detriment to society, but I've seen how over-monitoring has started to turn children and teenagers into ultra-prudes today, to the point that a single year age gap in dating is considered "sinful" unironically. There does need to be some balance between letting them learn this shit at an appropriate age and straight up forced celibacy, cause the latter turns people into real weirdos about any form of sexuality in general.
>>151867179Exactly. That's all I'm arguing. I think this issue is just one of education. It feels like sex is taught to children as something to completely avoid or completely embrace with no middle ground. It feels like an issue that's pervasive these days in all aspects of life. We should be teaching kids that sex isn't that big a damn deal. The other problem I feel is that there is this pedestal/altar fucking is put on that makes people act irrationally about it.
>>151867238Make brothels legal, force women who work there to get regularly tested, allow them to have a union, allow for brothels to teach women how to be better at sex, tax their services, and give discounts for men who can prove they turned 18 within the past 3 months so they can lose their V-card and gain confidence by receiving the "girlfriend experience". Ban any and all electronic forms of pornography.
>>151867421Not reading all that, but it was retarded.
>>151867442I disagree.
>>151867140I agree with the part about households with children being responsible for the children, but that it. You're wrong about sexuality being desensitized, it's quite literally the opposite. I remember watching my parents' action movies as a kid and there were boobs and sex scenes in almost every one. Not anymore. TV shows used to have babes and cleavage left and right. Not anymore. You can say porn is more accessible, but it was always accessible to those who wanted to access it. I grew up prior to ubiquitous internet and has lots of friend who could get their hands on porn mags and pornos. As for social sexuality, it's literally lower than it's ever been. You're being fooled by a tiny percentage of super-sluts with high visibility online. Whereas teens are barely dating and having sex compared to previous decades, and that's with all the new Mexicans and blacks skewing the stats because those ethnicity start having sex young.
>>151867765This has also been my experience. I didn't know about "woods porn" since I grew up in a fucking desert, but my father's generation would collect Playboy and Penthouse as if they were, well, collectables. Personally, my father kept his collection next to the gun box he thought I didn't know about.I'm pretty sure in today's world would think that my father was enabling me to see boobs, cum, and then shoot my brains out. We did stupid shit as kids, sure, but we weren't retarded enough to do that.
>>151865853>Please... Celestial Emperor... send down a meteor on Earth
>>151865853was there a bunch of bugs bunny porn immediately made when he dressed up as marilyn cause if there wasnt then they kinda have a point yall be getting too damn horny
>>151865853>First Dexter>Then Johnny Bravo>Then Johnny Test>Then Timmy Turner>Then Marco Diaz>Now Gumball
>>151868311You mean>first Bugs Bunnyright?
>>151868319I am not into bunnies
>>151868369>I am not into bunniesThey fuck like rabbits, you know.
>>151868394Carlos...
>>151868394shut up
>>151867842This argument falls flat because it implies playboy in the 70s-90s was equivalent to the surge of amateur hardcore pornography posted to the internet throughout its lifetime. I don't think Sasha Gray v. 100 Dude gangbangs are the same as seeing some nipples and bush.
>>151868552I also don't think Sasha Gray v 100 Dude gangbangs are the same as seeing a baddie Gumball twerk for one second as part of a greater visual gag
>>151868552It falls doubly flat when you realize that children WEREN'T supposed to view playboy, and it was gatekept from them by law and by clerks who were in place to prevent them from getting access to adult material. Internet porn is different in that there is no barrier to entry or gatekeeper stopping kids from viewing that material besides an easily bypassed 18+ verification screen that only exists for liability reasons. A pretty silly comparison when you think about it for more than a second.
>>151868615I agree, but the normalization of sexuality in prepubescents by the media made for them is wrong and speaks to a culture now being more and more run by the generation who grew up with that unlimited access to sex and now it's beginning to reflect in our media, even that directed at kids.
>>151868652I only have this concern when it's something like Turning Red because women don't deserve to have sexual content targeted at them.
>>151868552Most normies watch the same generic porn they always have and the rest were paying money for the same nasty stuff before the Internet made it free.
>>151867765Baywatch didn't have twelve year old boys twerking in it.
>>151868722Twerking as we know it didn't exist until Afroculture had a boom because of the iPhone giving retards easier internet access in 2007. For example, RuPaul's Drag Race didn't start airing until 2009.
>>151868714Was that content made for and aired on a children's cartoon channel or openly available to children by design? If not, then I don't know why you're talking about adults consuming and buying adult content unless they were buying it for kids, in which case I'd have to also argue doing that is wrong too.
>>151868752Let me rephrase then. Baywatch didn't have twelve year old boys shaking their asses in it.
hoe hoe hoe
>>151868772Cool, what does that have to do with Gumball always slammin' the gyatt all the time in his show?
>>151868814Read the thread.
>>151868824I'm not reading your schizobabble because you're nervous you're going to prison for getting a chubby seeing Gumball twerking and you're desperately trying to convince strangers on the internet how sinful it all is in an attempt to absolve yourself of the guilt, faggot.
>>151868840You don't have any actual argument is what I read there. You're not able to converse without resorting to childish attacks. It makes sense that you advocate for this kind of thing being shown to kids.
>>151868873Here's some more official "porn" for you. Merry Christmas, you filthy animal.And a happy New Year.
>>151868915I remember this, it's fanmade
>>151868915I don't think I ever referred to the subject as "official porn". If you read my argument, instead of covering your eyes to shield your ego, you'd realize that. My point is that this:>>151866356is undeniably strange and weird to put in a kid's show.
>>151868944It's not.>>151868955>blah blah blahSay thank you, please.
>>151868944Imagine trying to use a fan animation depicting a twelve year old cat boy's cock as proof you're not a weird gooner is a bold debate strategy. I wonder if it'll work out for him.
>>151868990I already won, now I'm just poking you because seeing you butthurt about a butt is funny to me.
>>151869013>inb4 "you're pathetic"
>>151869013Why did you have that saved and ready to go on your computer? I think that's worth exploring while we're on the topic.
>>151868761I don't think the bit was funny (because it's fucking Gumball) but it was likely intended to be. It's partially a French production. That's just what they do.Besides, pearl-clutching over sex in kids shows is pointless because a) kids will just think it's funny or weird and b) gooner adults will beat off to literally ANY kind of character.
What other show from the 90's or early 2000's involves a child sexually twerking their ass?
>>151869056I searched for it on desuarchive because I knew you'd be upset by it and also pivot off of the twerking since you've got the attention span of a goldfish. I can read you like a book.
>>151869061You're probably right, at least about A, B is most certainly true. I don't think it's going to turn kids into freaks on the spot, but the idea that even kids can't get a break from weird sexuality and its discourse in their own media makes me sad.
>>151869100Man, were you also this analpained by Bart's dick in the Simpson's movie?
>>151869110Whatever you say. I wouldn't have that saved myself, not out of any fear of reprisal you've projected, but just because it's a bit weird, isn't it?
/co/ Gumball fandom is supremely autistic.
>>151869129You WOULD think it's weird since you've got that soccer mom mentality going on.
>>151869125was Bart doing a jerking off motion and swinging it around in a sexual manner, or was it just humorous nudity? Decide.
>>151869225I'll decide it was humorous nudity, just as I thought Gumball being "bad" was humorous since it's the same kind of visual gag.
>>151869125This is an interesting angle because I think it is at the heart of a major misunderstanding going on here. I did not get assblasted by Bart's dick or by Gumball's cheerleading or anything like that. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with those scenes. Why? Because there's nothing inherently sexual about those scenes or about the human body. The context matters. In one scene you have a boy naively trying to impress a girl by cheerleading and looking like silly and in the other we have a boy who's had their body shifted curvier shaking his ass at the camera because he's "bad". If you find the Bart or Gumball cheerleading scenes comparable to this one, then I think that says more about you than it does about me. I'm not that Anon, I know that's surprising, but I may as well be.
>>151869245> just as I thought Gumball being "bad" was humorousI suppose you can call it that, but the point is that one is intentionally sexual, performing an action that can be considered erotic.Imagine if Bart grabbed his ass and started bouncing up and down with lewd eyes with his tongue out and lipstick on. Are you seriously comparing this to his pants falling down and seeing his Penis?Really?
>>151869277What I'm not getting is when and where perceived "sexuality" overrides "comedy". When Gumball performed oral sex on Alan to inflate him, was that "encouraging gay blowjobs" to this silly billy, or was that just another "funny gag" (which is another gag because of gagging and blowjobs)?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-l3musCgNY
>>151869357>Imagine if Bart grabbed his ass and started bouncing up and down with lewd eyes with his tongue out and lipstick on.Before I do that, what's the set-up for this punchline to land as part of the joke?
>>151867035Elite level bait, kudos
>>151866230This is hot as fuck
>>151866230im cumm
>>1518663652016 turned this site into a bunch of moralfags
>>151869120Sex stuff sneaked into cartoons is as old as animation as an art form. Except in this case it's deliberately annoying and garish. I'd argue it's far more offensive for how unfunny it is because the whole plot of the episode is stupid.
>>151866876Different context, Gumball can get away with raunchy comedy because it already has in the past using other lowbrow humor, cheerleader crossdressing, gay hotdog guy, deviantart fan fiction, making fun of woke shit and more. Gumball's comedy is fairly diverse ranging from meme faces, visual gags, situational humor, cringe jokes making fun of social movements. Anyone complaining about this hasn't engaged with the show because it's already done shit like this in the past.
>>151869426Lisa is going through a phase where she wants to be like other girls and Bart is teasing her by being overly sexual. Do you seriously think any joke would justify Bart doing that?
>>151865853>>151866170>>151866356>>151866361>this will awaken a lot of boys into wanting to be feminine slutsgood. the future is bright
>>151869501I'm reminded of when Phil pretended to be Lil in All Grown Up so he could keep hanging out with her ex-boyfriend for some reason.Anyways, I just think you're not creative enough to come up with a good joke to "justify" it.
>>151866356>>151866361>Getting mad at this instead of jerking off to itwhy?
>>151869100https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdnzxG0WlVc
>>151866356>>151866361Can we even call it thinly veiled anymore?
cant have fun anymore these days
>>151869624It's a French cartoon, it's never been "thinly veiled" just Y7 instead of PG.
>>151869641hot
How does this compare to Chipettes?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HhDCjjq9cA
>>151870554oops i got a boner looks like i need to lynch the entire animation industry for peddling smut to kids
>>151866170That facial expression is kinda
>>151870685>>151866170 faces looks like >>151870554
>>151870554i dont see anything sexual about the animation, although i guess you can argue the song hints at being sexual. now if they were making duck lips while twerking their ass and winking then that'd be different
More of the baddie gumball sceneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrmLcM2Ox6w
>>151870782fuck I'm really hard now. The voice doesn't help
>>151870782some baddie gumball scenes less editedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE5YdHots2I
>>151870833His VA is so sassy...
Doesn't gumball have an actual male bodycount?
>>151871054Yes. Gumball has had more successes with boys than girls. Teri and Masumi even had a bet that he was a fruit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYxvqBi3-0I
>>151871054He fucking blew Alan on REGULAR TVHe was always going to be a little fruity
>>151871758IT WAS A BROJOBGUMBALL WAS DOING IT FOR A BRO
>>151871784I want baddie gumball to give me a brojob.
>>151871934I want to eat baddie Gumball's asshole
Big thank you to whoever came up with the ideahttps://files.catbox.moe/57igc5.jpeg
>>151872272Ripe for a r63 edit.
>>151872393Will you point out which posts you've reported, please?
>>151866170This show is for grown up zoomers, not children
>>151866876>what is contextTwerking fits Gumball, not PPG
>>151872488>Your honor, look at the context.
>>151866117For me, I was at a doctor's office and Gumball was on and it was that YouTube episode where Mr. Small turns into a gross monster and like is reborn in a really gross way. Gumball hasn't been "for kids" for a while now and I think that's pretty fucked up.
>>151872336>taking the best part away nah
>>151872527It's funny how different cultures have different concerns about what needed to be censored from this episode.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmYjdZzn0YQ
Artists and animators aren't allowed to express themselves sexually anymore, because moral fag goycattle control the industry now; this is the next best thing.
>>151872393Soon you will realize that it's all astroturfing and advertising masquerading as coomer fixations
>>151872624>Meanwhile Hazbin Hotel
>>151872641>project spearheaded by fat white woman sucksWHOA WHO WOULDA THUNK
>>151872641I'm talking about television. Not indie
>>151872272holy fuck
>>151872663Wow, the format mainly watched by 70 year olds who just want to watch the Andy Griffith show isn't a den of sex and debotchery? That's not shocking
>>151865853>anthro femboy bimboBased ben.
>>151866228Absolutely disgusting.
>>151869426Oooh fuck, I'm hard now
>>151872529>taking the worst part awayYah.
>>151866170this frame in particular, with that facial expression, looks like some overly specific mtf bimbofication fetish shit
>>151865853In defense, this was very fucking funny
>>151866910What are you so mad about?
>>151865853>How the fuck did this happen?TV rating system.
>>151865853sex with gumbo
>>151873338
>>151873540FOOL!
>>151873606Yes, you understood that reference.
