To be honest I think Peter should've kept the Symbiote, and it'd be his silly sidekick or something. Better than Spider-Boy.
>>151886918Kelly’s little fucker seems to be a failed attempt at an industry plant, but Symbiotes are actually VER CUTE
>>151887187The problem with Symbie is that we know fuck all about the thing and have no reason to care. It's just a background extra and of only nominal importance compared to the mainline. Even Jeff has more relevance.Ergo, Venom themself should be the inherently cute and silly one.
>>151887253>ThemselfVery progressive of you anon
>>151887311Gender neutrality means they can have sex with Peter and MJ far more easily!
>>151887328True!
>>151887187>MJ>IS>CUTER!!!
>>151887253>Ergo, Venom themself should be the inherently cute and silly one.but people complain when he's like that just look at the whinging that happened when Rivals have him that dessert skin
>>151887375Now that both sides of VenoMJ are going to be in a sexual relationship with Peter soon, their cuteness will become additive rather than subtractive.
>>151887429Eddie Brock as Venom should be terrifying. But the Symbiote itself ought to just be a silly little guy imho.
>>151887311idk at least gender neutral pronouns make logical sense for a literal nonbinary sludge of ooze and not a castrated tranny pretending to be some kind of sea sponge.
>>151887443>Both MJ and the Symbiote reject Paul in favor of PeterNature is healing
>>151886918>Felicia is the Cat DevilThat design would be metal. I’m imagining her a fusion between her Symbiote form from Web of Shadows and her mutated form from Sinister’s Six
>>151887526so what's up with this meme because IDGI
>>151887540A fan artist redrew Chainsaw Man characters as Spider-Man and people thought it was cool looking, no biggie
>>151887540It’s an AU mix of Spider-Man and Chainsawman. Peter is Denji, Venom is Pochita, MJ is Makima, and Felicia is RezeJust some fanart and panel recreations basically. I don’t think he’s even done art of the hybrid form for Peter and Venom
>>151887602A GOOD AND CUTE GOO
>>151887614>Peter that thing is disgusting>THAT “THING” IS A GOOD BOY>The Lord made us in his own image
>>151887673The Symbiote is pure, and without sin.
>>151887525It's really not good for any Paul Rabin diehards that's all I'm saying.
>>151888085DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD
>>151888085No wonder Gwenschizo's been melting down.
>>151888085Do people actually like Paul un ironically? I don’t even hate him I just think of him as a nothing character
>>151888252One guy does, but mostly because he hates us and Spider-Man for some weird reason. Supposedly he's also a pedophile.
>>151886918I feel like Spider-Man would be the incarnation of the Nostalgia Devil.
>>151888302>it's just Mephisto but with Joe Quesada's head
>>151888252I like him as the constantly belittled guardian of Eddies son.
>>151888569I don't, honestly. It's fun to see Paul get shat on but he really has no business with a kid he can barely stand, and who can barely stand him. There's something strange and unwholesome with Paul's interest in the kid.
>>151888691It feels like they're just looking for an excuse to keep him around at least until they turn him into Torment.
>>151888569Eddie really needs to beat the shit out of Paul for his presumption
>>151887808The symbiote literally saved Peter from the belltower in the OG story. Good boy Symbiote erasure is real sadly
>>151887456> the Symbiote itself ought to just be a silly little guyI disagree. The symbiote should be a cold blooded predator
>>151889395I like to think that being angry at Peter, and bonding to Eddie who was angry at Spider-Man, caused a mental feedback loop that screwed up both of them
>>151889414The Symbiote was literally doing nothing wrong in the comics. The whole 'bringing out Peter's anger and dark side' or whatever was just from the cartoon.
>>151886918No marywhorefag, it's not going to happen.
>>151889978Sorry Paultard, Paul's getting shitcanned. Cope.
The Venom Symbiote? Peter’s TRVE love.
>>151890306>VenoMJ in a vicious pissing contest with herself to prove who Peter loves more
>>151889416Honestly that works. Symbiotes are empathic creatures; Brock and it were feeling the same emotion about the same guy. They egged each other on till “We’re poison to Peter Parker AND Spider-Man! We’re VENOM!!”
>>151889416It's worth pointing out the original plan was for Venom to be female: she would be a widow who lost her child and husband on the same day she was to give birth at the hospital. Her husband was flagging down a taxi but the driver was distracted by Spider-Man fighting a villain. He would run the husband over and the wife would miscarry on the spot. Having lost everything in one day, the widow would bump into the symbiote and the two would work together to ruin Peter's life. This was scrapped because "a female villain wouldn't be threatening" but it was still far enough into production that Venom's hand is clearly a woman's when Peter is shoved onto the train tracks.
>>151890441Even though Eddie as Venom is clearly male, Venom's character is distinctly still female in a lot of ways, especially when you examine his powers and actions.>obsessive stalking and harassment>information gathering>shapeshifting and camoflage>infiltration>parasitic>can literally birth offspring>>151889395Too many people forget that in its original depiction, the Symbiote is not evil or malicious. It's just a friendly helper who tragically cannot communicate with its host. Peter rejecting it is quite sad.
>>151890545I really want to see an AU where Peter kept the Symbiote and they became buddies.
>>151890614A lot would change, but also very little. Carnage's origin is going to be pretty different.
>>151887375Marvel needs to get their head on straight and do a what if? where MJ smokes MJ instead and gets long dreadlocks and chills out all the time on a beanbag or something (sarcasm). Funny how there are 2 cute images of smoking MJ now. Quesada is malding.>>151887253In an ideal world, the Venom comics would have explored the symbiote and Eddie's relationship more initially as well as expanding on lore while introducing more physical/powerset rules for symbiotes to abide by.>>151889395Eh on one hand there is the absolute kino that is the "Intervention" episode of Spectacular Spider-Man as well as the cool as fuck villainous lines and fights that Venom then has with Peter. On the other hand, it doesn't serve well for Venom to later be redeemed if the symbiote is one-dimensionally evil. Depictions where the symbiote is truly alien and only understands selfish desires/primal instincts that benefit itself and the host until Peter teaches it to help others is the way to go. So you could have the bell scene where it saves Peter but still have it feel betrayed and try to fight Peter afterwards anyway. So yeah I still want the corruption arc of Peter but the symbiote to also have a redemption arc.>>151889414>>151889736Yeah it doesn't matter what adaptation does what, it's what is ultimately the best version of the characters and the arcs they go through. Comics aren't the end all, be all but they usually are because ideas presented in their original form in this medium have more space to be presented. That's why I proposed the version stated above. A symbiote can be a cold -blooded predator that then softens its view on humans but still is able to have some menace when it comes to fighting.>>151890441I wouldn't mind Venom being a woman but all those coincidences just make it unnecessarily dark while something like The Killing Joke had those happen for a reason.
>>151891170>InterventionThat episode rules so much and perfectly shows off my feelings about the black suit arc’s reinterpretation because when it’s done good you get shit like those episodes and the Venom ones which I love. But when it’s done badly you get Spider-Man 3 and PS5 Spider-Man 2Generally I’ve accepted that the symbiote story is going to be told a certain way and certain adaptations can do it really well. But I do think it actually takes away from Peter as a character and, in a certain point of view, can absolve him of having actual flaws because you can just say “Oh the evil alien made him do it” instead of “Peter has a temper and needs to work on it” or something. But I do like that the Symbiote arc can be used to explore the darker aspects of Peter’s personality. And I’m always down for a new look to the suit (pic related being one of my favorites)
>>151891545Found a better picture
>>151890614I bet it would be something like Jamie Reyes and the Scarab. Which would unfortunately make him look like a nut job>Yeah totally what I was thinking!>Peter who are you taking to?>…No one. Just talking out loud I guess.
>>151889736Anon while the Symbiote didn't turn Peter evil, it was still at fault for a lot of things. It didn't reveal its true nature as a living organism, wanting a permanent bond to Peter without his consent, and used his body at night which left him exhausted. And upon Peter's discovery of that the suit was an alien with intentions Peter had no knowledge of, he commanded for it to leave. But it didn't take no for an answer and tried to do so by force. The first attempt was hurting Peter to quicken the bonding process, and the second had it trick him into putting it on and forced the bond without his consent>>151889395A situation that wouldn't have occured in the first place if the Symbiote didn't try forcing a permanent bond to Peter for a second time. Again highlighting its possessive issues.
>>151891545>Takes away from Peter's characterI can see that in the 616 as they really brush past that and no other writers bothered exploring it more because they were all fags who thought Venom was lame just because Micheleine speedran or ignored the development and details of Venom and just focused on how Eddie was cardboard thin and it was an yucky alien who was edgy instead of the allegory and what new avenues this opened up for Peter. Yeah aliens and magic can detract from Spider-Man. I get it. But not always.Anyway, I think yeah, a moment where Peter realizes that the symbiote brought out his old Ditko personality but a worse version of it (Ditko Peter was still kinda justified in a lot of things, so it isn't 1 to 1) would be good. A more gradual process of Peter working on that is also needed.I fear that design with the web cape might be cool but it would look too similar to Batman. The logo is ok and fine for a game if the black suit needed more variants. But nah, classic all the way for me and I don't mind different artists just drawing it slightly differently.>>151891663Ugh. Ramos art sucks the big one. Dunno how that qualifies as better. Whatever.
>>151891820I’ll play devils advocate and say that either the symbiote didn’t think it HAD to tell Peter it’s true nature. And/or the symbiote COULDN’T actually tell Peter itself. Keep in mind that the symbiote being able to talk to its host is a semi recent thing. It was much more animalistic in its first appearance which can explain “possessiveness” as simply it following its instincts: find host, bond, live with host. Then when taken AWAY from its host it’s now in survival mode: find host and resume bond
>>151891853>The symbiote brings out Ditko PeterI kinda like that. I think Spectacular did a perfect job of the “slow takeover” approach like with how the suit evolved over time. And I just gave the game shit but I liked that the Insomniac devs did that too. And the original black suit, yeah, is perfection but I just like the novelty of a new spin. I’m hoping the MCU will give him the classic suit (with the webs coming out of the hand patches I’ve always thought that was cool). I’m a big fan of the armpit webs too so it on the black suit is cool. And I’ve always had a soft spot for Humberto Ramo’s art, I can’t explain but when it’s good it’s goodAlso, most importantly, that is the cutest girl Venom design I’ve ever seen. 10/10 need comics of her being Peter’s goofy and slightly overbearing gf
