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Be honest with me, /co/
Is there any hope of a newcomer getting into the industry and working his way up to showrunner in this day and age?
Just how fucked are things?
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>>151887230
Only if you're willing to promptmaxx
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>>151887230
Uh yeah? Just be prepared to suffer for a while. >step one: be good at drawing
>step two: draw a lot and don't stop
>step three: build a network
>step four: build a small following
>step five: do a small mini animation using that network & followers
>step six: relentlessly pitch your story
>step seven: repeat all of the above, join other projects and keep pitching your own
Good luck.
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No, forget it. Just start drawing weird porn. You have to be open to anything. I mean anything. There's your cash cow.
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>>151887230
>showrunner
If you want to create then create something now dude, if you want an industry job focus on going for the job. Working in the animation industry only because it might lead to a show is how people burn themselves out on ego and never reach the opportunity.
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>>151887230
If anything, the death of permanent animator positions means that you're going to build even more connections over the course of your career. If anything, things are easier than ever even if you don't take the indie route.
Y'know, unless you're autistic.
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>>151887230
Literally just make things. Even if all the Big Tech platforms are adding bullshit that makes using them all suck dog dick, it's still stupidly easy to just make things and get a following.
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>>151887230
Hi I'm an Emmy Award winning producer from HBO Max before Zaslav fired me. It's pretty horrible, and the people at top aren't letting anything trickle down anymore. Also all the corporate mergers are creative poison for all genres of media. Your best bet is to Find something to do for the next 4 to 8 years and hope the next President cares at all about repairing the TV Industry. I seriously don't think the role of showrunner will exist in the future, and your only chance at survival is to right an indie comic that goes viral and pray someone pays you for the rights.
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All you have to do to be a showrunner is go build your own show.
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>>151887230
The traditional industry pipeline is broken, your best bet is going indie in your free time and trying to parlay that into something bigger.
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Zach and Mike did it with Smiling Friends man.
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All you have to do to be a millionaire is go start your own company.
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>>151887230
How much of a corporate bootlicker are you willing to be?
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>>151887230
Just go indie
Anything of worth these days are being made by independents or former independents
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The capitalism experiment is over. The endpoint is a neo-feudalist shithole where the only people who are happy are the ruling class, their privileged nepobabies and the brainwashed peons who worship the ground they walk on because they're insane or they don't want to be commies or whatever
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Zach Hadel getting to do Smiling Friends after starting as a crude Newgrounds animator wasn't THAT long ago, it just took awhile to get there
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>>151888564
how would the animation industry work in a communist society?
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>>151888631
Party-ran think tanks would do extensive amounts of vibe-based research to determine what shows the population most wants, and then the party-ran media groups would assign the shows to a party creative that had done similar projects before and was willing to follow whatever instructions came down from the think tank.
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>>151888631
I don't know, you could probably google some stuff about how all those weird Soviet cartoons were made, or Chinese cartoons as well.
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>>151888682
>or Chinese cartoons as well.
China is also a neo-fuedalist shithole, they just LARP as communist and occasionally disappear billionaires who go against the party's wishes.
Their cartoons these days also just look identical to anime thanks to them dumping billions and billions of dollars into gacha game animation.
Case in point.
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>>151888720
Sure, but back in the Mao days they made a few cartoons, before the CR shut them down. Like Havoc in Heaven, probably the only big one from the time. Another fucking Monkey King thing of course.
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>>151887230
I mean, no?
But there's also no hope in literally any other job or venture.
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>>151888564
you're right about the endpoint, and you're gonna feel really stupid when you caused it. because you've just described what they plan to do once they've torn down capitalism, literally the only thing standing in feudalism's way for the last... what how many centuries has it been. maybe a dozen.
>>151888673
jesus fucking christ, your parents need to be imprisoned.
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>>151888720
they literally LARP as capitalist, where the fuck do you go to school, school? where you gettin your news from, the news?
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>>151888720
>they just LARP as communist and occasionally disappear billionaires who go against the party's wishes
The latter means they're not LARPing.
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>>151888631
If I recall for the USSR the transition process was basically a 3 month cultural retraining course for the already existing animation industry in Russia and then it was like any other job at an animation studio except instead of shareholders the studio was beholden to the state and any excess profits from international sales were taken by the state.
The could basically make anything they wanted outside of what the state censors didn't like and that they had the budget of a shoestring to work with.
So for a modern version of that, imagine that the majority of animation content would be those 4-5 minute art project animations that used to pop up on YouTube and Newgrounds back in the day.
You not going to get many big series outside of the most dull family friendly stuff, but the trade off is tons of cool shorts.
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>>151889943
That would be true if the party weren't just full of opposing billionaires and millionaires who disappear billionaires and replace them with more receptive billionaires and millionaires who are more willing to do the party's bidding to maintain their wealth.
It's all the same shit at the end of the day.
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>>151887230
Just don't fall into failed artist turned critic and you will be fine.
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>>151888620
>pretending we are still living in a newgrounds golden days
Brother 10 years ago on the internet might as well be half a century.
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>>151889967
>the Inner Party sometimes clashes with the Outer Party
Again, doesn't sound like they're LARPing.
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>>151889897
>capitalism good because
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>>151887230
lol no. Anyone giving you genuine advice to enter the industry is still living in the past, that shit's imploding as we speak.
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>>151887230
Genuinely surprised he hasn’t made official porn of the purpose (blue?) demon lady.
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>>151887230
sex with slutty demon half-breeds
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>>151888527
This. You have to forge your own path, especially when the more conventional avenues clearly aren't working out like they used to.



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