On this day, December 27th, Cartoon Network aired the premiere of one of the best cartoons of the 2000s and the most popular show in CN's ongoing block at the time.Happy anniversary to Ben 10!
>>151893702>CN does nothing to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their biggest cartoon everWhat the fuck is wrong with America? The Japanese always do cool shit in the anniversaries of their popular anime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QczGoCmX-pIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueB0oNajuEg
Man I loved the original show so much
>>151893783Ben 10 is a solid Gen Z property. And Gen Z hasn't reached the point of buying power that is still solidly wrappted up with boomers who have tapped out of mainstream media and Gen X who all the companies therefore market to.
>>151893801>Ben 10 is a Gen Z property?What? In my country only millennials in their 30s care about Ben 10
>>151893702The most kino scene in the whole original series.
>>151893814>In my country only millennials in their 30s care about Ben 10Ben 10 classic maybe. Gen Z are the ones who care about most of the series including Ultimate alien force and Omiverse
>>151893865they are adorable and sexy
>>151894020Stfu
The state of Ben 10 is so bleak right now, only thing coming up is a comic, and by the looks like it it's gonna be a limited series.
>>151894100Is he wrong? Both are breedable
>>151894602Yes, coomertard
>>151893702Fun series, shame CN didn't treat it better.
I don’t care that they don’t have special abilities and that Ben has other big guys in his arsenal, I want him to unlock the Detrovite transformation.
>>151894609nah
>>151894905Yes
>>151893783The reason Japan cares so much about their animes shown through celebrations, actual statues, and marches isn't due to a positive reason. It's more a wide reaching plague of deep escapism thoughout the country. The Japanese have long been known to resent their real day lives. Japanese culture demands a strict way of living in real life, even socialy. It's why such escapist literature like manga is even read so regularly in Japan.
>>151895133>deep escapism Could you explain what is wrong with this? I take escapism and over the top power fantasies over the usual "actual being normal is the best" or "you should learn to love being a wageslave" that plagues western writing. I mean, fucking Ben 10 Alien Force started with a Ben that dropped the most powerful item in the universe just to be normal . What a fucking cancer.
>threads lusting after Ben and/or Gwen are almost always active>the thread about the anniversary is deadNice to see /co/ doesn't actually care about Ben 10
>>151894925You're flirting with him. You realize that, right?
>>151893865Cuties. Would repost shipping art of on my official twitter
>>151894726Would it make a suit for him as part of the equipment, or would the Omnitrix just transform him into a little baby-limbed retard like Vulkanus, relegating it to a civilian species?
>>151897151No, they are naturally big guys 4U, just look at Technorg, Omniverse explained that Vulkanus just got caught up in an Element X explosion but was able to regenerate due to his species’s advanced healing factor
>>151893702Crazy to think its that old. Happy anniversary! What is everyone's favorite alien? Mine is Four Arms, Humungousaur, Diamondhead, and Upchuck.
>>151894100Gtfo>>151894609>>151894925nah
>>151895597>actual being normal is the best or you should learn to love being a wageslaveYou prove my point in letting yourself to be infected by mental poisen. Of coarse it's nice to think about fantastical imaginary worlds but at the end of the day the fact remains we live in real life and it's something we have to face. There's no progress without acknowledging the problems in life in order to solve them and being able to take the good as well. Normality is equal to a balance of logical and illogical. A normal person can play video games, browes, the internet, and shows while still keeping in touch with real life. People who dive to deep become social autist. They need to adapt life to their needs because they don't experience life as it's ment to be, that is naturaly. Which just calls back the problem is that they don't actually live in their imaginary world. A world that is a skewn version of life through the over influence of manmade media. That is the "deep escapism". I'd like to make it clear that if you think I'm playing favorites with western animation, you're mistaken. I'm just not a fan of many typical eastern animation tropes that form such a fanatical culture around it. People are fools.
>>151897233Achksullay, Technorg was just a steroid and gene-mod user. It was revealed to me in a dream
>>151897610Wildmutt, Ripjaws, Echo Echo, Big Chill, and Benwolf.
>>151897610If that fourth one had been Swampfire, you could be trying to literally mantle Ben.
>>151898008Hey Dwayne, shouldn’t you be dead?
>>151898059Sadly, yes. Thankfully, Derrick is too and he can do no more harm to the Ben 10 series.
>>151898084Calm down, retard
>>151898111Waste of trips.
So, what actually were these chuckle-fucks doing while Milleus was offing planets left and right? Did the Galactic Cose of Conduct prohibited them to interfere directly or what?
>>151898281Milleous is an actual emperor with a full army and entire planets at his disposal. I don't really get the sense they were ever up to taking on a threat like that.Granted, Blue Man Group did try to throw hands with Vilgax, a known tyrant and warlord, and ate shit for it, so maybe they needed to bite off more than they could chew before realizing that.
>>151893801>>151893814>>151893939Gen Z started in 97 and the show started in 05, so the older members got to experience the entire initial run as part of their childhood and it was also the target merch demographic.However its not all of gen z, there is a massive splitting point in the generation based upon if one grew up into smart tech or if they were raised on smart tech with being born in 04-05 as the rough cutoff point.Most people when they think of zoomers think of the second group since the first group just quietly got shuffled into late millennial spaces.
I feel like Vilgax can both eat in a refined manner at a fancy dinner and devour like there was no tomorrow the fresh meat of an animal he has killed with his bare hands.
>>151898059>>151898084The punishment for changing the Ben 10 canon too much is an early death apparently.
They should’ve given them the ability to turn in bat-hybrid form, and that suit sucks and is pointless since Whampire burned during the day.
>>151897610Diamond Head, XLR8, Cannonbolt, GhostFreak and Heatblast.
>>151899221Could a traditional black and white outfit save Whampire from being a dogshit alien?
>>151900070Maybe.
R-18 released within show debut: 48 hours
>>151897610Why Upchuck?
>>151901192>R-18
>>151897610Upgrade is my all time favorite.
>>151901773He’s neat and once ate energy that was even more powerful than the Sun itself.
>>151901851You know what? Fair enough.
>>151898111No fuck off and die newfag.
>>151900070Bigger wings too. Also yeah give him the Sonar treatment and give him a big ass bar monster form
>>151893792Same I can see my little brother was obsessed with it when it came out. Too bad alien force took a steaming pile of shit on it
>>151893792One of the best episodes hands down
>>151902618Cope, subhuman
>>151902810This one or top right would've been peak. The lack of fingers really helps to sell the fact that the containment suit is supposed to be a prison.
>>151895597The real world is still super magical anon
>>151898033>BenwolfBased he’s my favorite next to Ghostfreak
>>151903594Also the ports on his hand could be used to shoot out radiation. Always felt like he should’ve been able to do that even though it defeats the purpose of a prison/containment suit
>>151893783>CN does nothing to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their biggest cartoon everAnon, there's no CN anymore.
>>151903904No, it's not possible. They were just airing something yesterday.
>>151904266The tv channel is still around but the studio closed recently.
>>151903619>The real world is still super magical anonIf this were true there wouldn't be a need for escapism.
>>151901192You will never be Japanese.
>>151904410Get some new material
>>151904367Thats because you’re unable to see actual wonders around you outside of media.
>>151903022Wouldn't it be better to just make the monster form the default?
>>151902810>>151903594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEat9fB2ZbU
>>151903619>>151904616This is pure cope
>>151893801Ben 10's time is not coming. Right now would be prime nostalgia time and it's not happening. Look at ATLA.
>>151906938I mean, they're making a Ben 10 comic.
>>151904367>>151906380Real world wonders. The kind of thing that might inspire your aliens. Great fiction is born because people take interest in real life and become inspired.
>>151901851Upchuck is OP as fuck
>>151895133People like you are honestly insanely pseudo-intellectual and should just shoot yourselves. I'm tired of reading this new age fagellation for liking something we've had for as long as humanity existed: stories. Was Homer addicted to escapism when he re-told the Odessy so much it because a staple of literature?
>>151893702Of the original 10 aliensUpgradeDiamond HeadXLR8Were my favorite 3 aliens
>>151893702They killed this franchise with omniverse and raped its corpse with the 2016 reboot. Never forget
>>151908981Alien Force killed it way before Omniverse
>>151909072Alien force was goated you shit taste worm
>>151908981>Bad animation takes>The posts doesn't mention animation at allHell, it didn't even blame anyone. Just simply sating that they thought it was a worse design.Bitch needs to get off social media.
>>151893783Wasn't this show on nick?
>>151909125Naruto or Gundam?
>>151909072The Highbreed arc is the peak of Ben 10. At least provide believable bait.
>>151908981Omniverse was decent
>>151909072Based, fuck AF and AFdefenders
>>151909396Omniverse was infantilized shit that humiliated the franchise by making it into a farce of itself
>>151909396Why did they steal everyone pupils and why did they flatten kid Gwen's chin? She looks trans.
>>151909396Butchered Gwen's design, butchered the preexisting designs of most aliens from both the OS and UAF eras, overused green for fucking everything, spent half its runtime retconning anything to do with the preceding series that DJW wasn't directly involved with (like the Incurseans), some of the worst original aliens in the original continuity, inundated with gag characters, filled with episodes where the main cast are the most out of character they've ever been, spehshul donut steel OC Feedback that the show tries to constantly gaslight you into believing was the coolest alien ever, and a climax centered around time travel.Omniverse is a fucking stain upon Ben 10 and existed almost entirely as a vehicle for DJW to push his bad headcanons into actual canon.
>>151899095Sad but true.
>>151909072Like it or not, Alien Force did the exact opposite, it kept the series alive.
>>151908981>kids thought he was too scaryOn what world
>>151909574lmao, OS was by far the most successful iteration of the show
>>151909958Yes, which is why Alien Force exists and kept the franchise going, you understand that, right?
>>15189605980% of /co/ doesn't give a shit about the shows, they only care about the characters that give them a boner.
>>151897151NRG has the containment suit that the original guy was stuck in despite being an energy being. Toepick also has the helmet.
>>151910007Kept the franchise going less successfully? Well done to it
>>151909554Omniverse Chromastone is so gross. Terrible redesign.
>>151910231Viewer, it is imperative that we give him a leotard.>What would any alien species be without a pair of tighty-greenies to run around in? - Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.
What aliens do you think are underappreciated?
>>151893702I've rewarded the entire original series like three times.
>>151910441What were the prizes?
>>151910441Most incestious cartoon of the year?
>>151910363And the funniest thing is, they kept his original design in an earlier episode but for some reason changed it in his second appearance. Just to give a final middle finger to Chromastone fans as well.
>>151910426Eatle. A lot of people dislike him due to his rather basic design and overlap with Upchuck, but I always felt there was room for him. I think he makes for a cool eater/brawler hybrid alien.
>>151910007>the OS is the show best remembered by the general public>the OS had the best toy sales>the OS is the least contentious show of the bunch>AF S3 and OV misguidedly tried (and failed) to capture the OS' vibe to ape its successI get that folks around here get oddly upset at classic series fans, but you gotta be objective. Yeah, the franchise kept going, but each show was less successful than the last (until the reboot, ironically enough).
>>151910426RipJaws 100%
>>151908981Could you technically stick your dick in his eyestalks?
>>151908812I never said it was wrong to like stories, even if it's pure fantasy. I simply think it's dangerous for people to dive to deep into escapism without staying grounded in reality as well >>151897970It's strange that you find this "pseudo-intellectual" and even stranger that I'm giving the lecture as someone who is really into worldbuilding (specificaly fantasy).
>>151910426Ghostfreak. Everyone talks about how cool the Zs’Skayr episode is but no one really talks about how versatile and power the actual transformation itself is. Intangibility, invisibility, tentacles, you can possess a mother fucker. He may not be super strong but you can’t really beat up a guy you can’t see or touch or both at the same time
How do you guys feel about aliens that are somewhat inorganic in appearance? OG Way Big, Armodrillo, Echo Echo, Nanomech, Upgrade, etc.Personally, I find them really cool but I know some people have a problem with more mechanical designs (for some reason). I always felt like there was a lot of potential for new aliens there that went underutilized.
>>151910818>First part/show in a franchise is the most well knownAside from some exceptions, that's usually the case.
>>151912291>>151912314>>151912325>DJW finally draws some good aliens>They're reskins for SariWhat did he mean by this?
>>151912670He really, really adored Sari
>>151912291>>151912314>>151912325Omniverse style was so good for waifus. A shame the male aliens looked like shit.
>>151910818Alien Force had some of the highest ratings of all of the franchise including a movie That who was the highest rated Cartoon Network original at the time. while the original series is probably the most well remembered future series are still very much discussed to this day, so to pretend like people only want to continuation of the original series seems a little silly to me.If anything a future series will combine most aspects of every show, so yeah you're not getting incest in the next show sorry.
>>151913314>so yeah you're not getting incest in the next show sorry.
>>151911972I don’t mind them but I get why people don’t like them
>>151913314>Alien Force had some of the highest ratings of all of the franchiseI know. Ratings mean very little to a franchise like this though. CN has trampled on shows, even ones that did well on TV, just for failing to meet their toy sale margins. The franchise's sales went down after OS and CN has been trying to recapture the magic and get younger fans more into Ben 10 (and its toys) since.>while the original series is probably the most well remembered, future series are still very much discussed to this dayPokeani fans don't have a ton to say about the early, Ash, Misty, Brock era of the show (especially compared to stuff like XY), but that was undoubtedly the show in its most successful, and iconic, form (to the point that it started nostalgia pandering with reboots and remakes after its films started tanking in the box office). That's the kinda thing I'm talking about with Ben 10. The OS is that for Ben.>to pretend like people only want to continuation of the original seriesWhere did I ever insinuate that? Please, don't put words in my mouth.>you're not getting incest in the next show sorryI didn't want that shit in the first place.
Favorite Omnitrix gimmick go! For new it’s DNA scanning and Ultimate’s. Scanning just opens up the scope of what Ben can turn into and makes sense given what the thing was made for in the first placeUltimates are just cool for the most part (don’t mention Ultimate Wildmutt I don’t like him either). Also they’re related to Albedo, my second favorite character. If you want some “big reason” though I guess the idea of evolution “Survive or die” or bringing out the best in a species could make sense. But that second reason would need to be in a more natural version of the gimmick instead of the more combat focused version Albedo made
i drew ditto for you people
>>151914980Thank you
