This book single-handedly ruined all recommended reading for early Batman and Robin.Directly contradicts The Last Halloween, Dark Victory, and Robin: Year One.What is even canon anymore?
>>151929129This actually pissed me off. I read Robin Year One right before and it was contradicted in within 10 pages. I thought Waid was good at this but I just assume he hates Dixon
And here I thought recommendations were based on whether the comic was good or not.
>>151929129Birthright does the same thing in many ways. So does his current superboy action comics run
>>151929193To be fair, Robin: Year One was never that good. Dixon pushing his Two Face is to Dick what Joker is to Jason retcon. Dixon pushing Shrike. Everything serving his Nightwing run instead of an evergreen origin comic. Pushing rifts in the dynamic duo when they're supposed to be at their strongest. It was kinda shit.
>>151929129>What is even canon anymore?Everything is canon until something says otherwise. This book apparently said otherwise. Welcome to reading serial fiction featuring characters that have been around for 85+ years.
>>151929129>What is even canon anymore?DC cannon in general is fucked. Reminder that Death and return of Superman is cannon, but any page with Superboy isn't cannon except for when it's a book when Conner is appearing in.
>>151929224It's different. All Robin has are origin stories. It'd be nice if they'd build upon what already exists instead of retelling the same thing again and again.
>>151929129I don't care about continuity and contradictions.This comic isn't one I liked. But I didn't finish it. Maybe I'll reread it and change my mind at some point.
>>151929230Birthright is absolute trash. I say this with all sincerity, there’s too much talking in the first issue for it to be an enjoyable read, or any kind of ever green Superman story. The art is fucking whack. B&R:YO has amazing art and is a pretty fun read, but I agree with OP that it too blatantly ignores LH and DV. Why the fuck is Falcone still alive?
>>151929444To be fair, Falcone has been alive since the New 52 and it was never retconned back. He's featuring in the current Catwoman run.
>>151929332What the fuck are you talking about?
>>151929488I'm talking about how the Death and return of Superman is cannon, but any page with Superboy isn't cannon except for when it's a book when Conner is appearing in.That's how DC continuity is right now.
>>151929129>What is even canon anymore?That don't matter none
>>151929129Long Halloween hasn't been canon since Babs went back to being Jim's daughter instead of his nieceHell Long Halloween itself wiped out year two
>>151929332>>151929528cannon (two middle Ns): ranged weaponcanon (one middle N): considered part of a specific storyline
>>151929528That extends to a lot of things.The biggest problem with how DC reboots is they want to keep certain stories but remove the way they happenedSo at one point Knightfall happened, but Tim wasn't Robin and JPV wasn't active, and yet Bane broke Batman's back. It's never really explained how the events happened in this new continuity, you're just supposed to go with it.
>>151929444Honestly I completely agree. Ffs he doesn’t do anything in costume for 4 issues. The first two issues being a navel gazing “white guy goes to Africa” side quest was retarded. >>151929484Which is retarded.
>>151929484And remember how he wears a t-shirt with a rose on it bc his gimmick was that he was always smelling rosesI sold my trade of Batman Eternal this week, I hate that fucking book. Piece of shit was crowding my collection
>>151930687>Batman EternalWhy would you buy that?
>>151929697DC is eternally the guy who hooked up with a girl he thinks is ugly so he everytime he re-tells the story the facts change.
>>151929681>DC cannon in general is fuckedAnon's alluding to DC's gatekeeping is non-existing.>Death and return of Superman is cannonI agree, it should had been put in one and blasted off.
>>151929129>MUH CANONFuck off, it was an entertaining comic. That’s all that matters. Things get retconned and changed all the time, time to grow and accept it or quit reading altogether, you whiny bitch. You’re also being a total a hypocrite because tons of things you happen to like are guaranteed to be retcons or were built around retcons because so much stuff has happened and changed during the 85+ years of publication.
>>151929697This is the biggest problem with DC. It's also how Barbara got turned into Oracle and why it won't just go away
>>151931418Continuity shouldn't be doggedly adhered to so much it actively hinders writing, but it should be a strong guideline. If you're going to break canon just to tell a flashback story that doesn't really add much to the mythology and frankly isn't that exciting, it just comes off as pointless.
>>151931766All it has to do is be an entertaining story. Which it was. You don’t like it? So what, that’s your problem.
