Better get started on those taxes.
>>151955625Please send your preparer the documents they requested sometime before the week of April 15th for the love of God
Hmm, cash register ink. Well, that's a business expense, isnt it? ... but I do enjoy the smell of the stuff. Better not risk it.
>>151955696Who the hell has a register that uses ink these days?
>>151955625What is the point of paying taxes if the government fired all the competent people in the IRS?
He's left handed and runs a business that exclusively deals with people who are left handed so he probably needs a left handed register and they only use ink.
>>151955724If you got a W2 you already paid your taxes.
>>151955625I think everyone ought to skip paying taxes this year
>>151955724Gotta pay off our debt.
>>151955724The vast majority of people have very easy and straightforward tax records. They could be done automatically.The actual reason the IRS exists is to crack down on the ultra wealthy (who were originally the -only- income tax payers) who do everything possible to cheat the system by hiding their money and using a team of accountants and lawyers.Hence why the GOP is so eager to defund the IRS.
>>151955772how are you gonna do that if you have a legitimate job bruh, it gets deducted automaticallyif you're getting paid under the table you probably weren't reporting it already anywaysyou file your taxes to get a tax refund, by not filing you are just losing out on a bunch of money
>>151955709At least those old receipts could actually survive worth a damn. Nowadays they become illegibly faded within a month if they aren't kept in a pristine box out of the sun.
>>151955772Lets assume that the citizens of an entire country just decides not to pay their taxes one year.What, realistically, could a government do about it?
>Bart, I don't want to alarm you, but it's January first, and we need to get going on those taxes!
>>151955772I'm not falling for this.
>See you April 15th, folks!
>>151955894Go to the banks and take it.
>>151955894Realistically? Mass arrests and seizure of assets, mostly from banks and large corporations but really, from anyone they can, followed by a complete collapse of any and all social services while the government prints new money to sustain itself long enough to take on foreign loans until regular tax collecting resumes.If that never happens, the government collapses and the country balkanizes at best. Or turns into a military dictatorship.But the thought experiment is silly. No country is ever going to have all of its citizens stop paying taxes, and even a large majority could avoid paying taxes with a country still operating effectively. After all, 48% of people already don't pay income taxes.
>>151955894answering as honestly as I canas soon as the government (any government really, but imagine the IRS for arguments sake) realizes this is something they've decided to do, there's gonna be mass encarcerations and perhaps even killings, if the entire population remains consistent even after this and isn't intimidated into it (which strains the imagination a fair bit but bear with me) realistically, no, there isn't anything the government could do, because at a certain point the amount of people would be far too large, we outnumber government employees significantly, and we outnumber government agents with GUNS even more so.It essentially becomes the sort of passive revolution so many scholars dream of, the economy of the country might collapse, if not the whole government, again, all of this is highly unlikely, you'd essentially be fundamentally changing the free will of millions and their own personal convictions, and that's without accounting the possibility the government would have family members who by this definition would also not pay.TLDR government would collapse after a lot of violence and jailings by virtue of fundamentally changing the psychological behavior of millions to all agree on this particular goal
This scene is peak Flanders
>>151955882dumb zoomer doesnt know about filing exempt...
>>151956010>After all, 48% of people already don't pay income taxes.Well, you need to make a certain amount of money to be expected to pay taxes.
>>151955772i havent paid taxes in 9 years
>>151955724It could be worse. I'm Canadian and our government hired a bunch of jeet scammers to run our tax department.
>>151955859I didn't know Somalians voted Republican.
>>151956694They might as well, senate Republicans are trying to pass a bill to spend $5.6 billion on resettling migrants into the U.S. and putting them on welfare.
>>151955882>it gets deducted automatically>you file your taxes to get a tax refund, by not filing you are just losing out on a bunch of moneyYou can change the deduction amount. By overpaying and getting a return, you are effectively giving the government a zero-interest loan. If, instead, you paid zero over the year and left it all for tax day, you could instead use that money to make more money and come out ahead.
>>151955625I wish I could do this but I'm not self employed so I have to wait on my employers to pussy foot around with my W2 until the last minute.
>>151955859"The actual reason the IRS exists" is to run the damn thing. Even if the entire process was automatic, and it damn near could be, somebody would still have to manage it. It's much, much more than just enforcement.
>>151956980>"The actual reason the IRS exists" is to run the damn thing.Bureaucracy for its own sake is a bug, not a feature.
>>151957007I'm sure you think that's very smart.
>>151956694I didn't know an incel know everything about politics
>>151957051Do you have a smarter take?
>>151957063Not one that'll fit into an easily regurgitated sound bite.
>>151955724ballrooms don't build themselves, commie.
>>151955625Probably misses his old taxes.
>>151956962>you could just not pay taxes until you owe even more taxes/biz/ was a mistake
>>151955625What would happen if there was suddenly a no taxes movement where everyone refused to pay their taxes? It's not like they can put everyone in jail. Hell, even if only 100k people don't pay I bet the government wouldn't be able to chase everyone up lol. I'm surprised this hasn't been tried before
>>151957253money would accrue more rapidly among the rich, the economy would stagnate, the poor would spend all their money, the rich would have the only capitalit would be like Constantine refusing to put tax revenues back into circulation; regardless of the cause, if you don't have tax to keep money circulating, you quickly revert to a serfdom where the rich consolidate power and wealth and the poor are enslaved or starved and the country as a whole rapidly decays because nobody's paying for infrastructure or maintenanceyou're posting on 4chan on new year's day, guess which category you'll end up in
>>151956619I haven't watched this show, how does Dan get the money to do his revenge schemes? What about gas for his car? Bills?
>>151957286*I haven't watched this show in a while
>>151957279How would you know all that?
>>151955724There never was competent people working in the IRS anon. Fat lazy bitches who eat all day and sit on There ass for an easy paycheck aka all government employees aren't skillful or competent.
>>151957056We do. You don't.
>>151955859The IRS has never done this and this was not it's purpose you lying kike.
>>151956012>>151956010>>151955995There's literally more people then there are inside the US government. It can literally be gone tomorrow if a nuke isn't dropped and then who will they rule over?
>>151957279>just keep paying taxes goyim
>>151957390>just take all the money out of circulation forehead>>151957292what? how would i know what would happen when all the money stops circulating? because it's all happened before and people wrote about it in detail you fucking tard
>See you April 15th folks!
>>151956012Can't they just print money like they did for Ukraine?
>>151957286he sells his food stamps
>>151957468No, crytpo reissues are the way to go now.True beleivers put their money directly into the Party's hands.
>>151957188New White House ballroom is being paid by private donors, not tax money.
>>151958691Just like how the military was paid for by a private donor.
>>151955724Well, taxes pay for everything! Police men, trees, sunshine, and lets not forget the folks who just don't feel like working, God bless 'em.
>>151957135How about one that will fit into the character limit of an anonymous cartoon imageboard post?
>>151957217Personal income taxes are owed annually. You can pay over the year with money taken out of paychecks, or you can pay it all when taxes are actually due. The amount due does not change based on when you pay it. If you wait to pay income taxes until they're due, you can use the money for investment in the meantime to make additional income. As investment income, it is taxed differently than wage/salary income. You may end up owing more taxes, but the amount would be less than the additional income. Do you disagree with anything I've actually said?
>>151957438>when all the money stops circulating?Circulation of money is not the same thing as collection of taxes. Especially in countries with sovereign control of their currency. In such countries, government spending is not constrained by tax revenue, since they can make as much money as they want. Instead, taxes serve to remove money from the economy and counter inflation. Simply ending federal tax collection in the US would result in about 4x the deficit spending, with the accompanying INCREASE in money circulation, economic activity, and inflation. It would be a smaller economic stimulus than WWII spending, but larger than other wars and stimulus efforts.
My great aunt and uncle back in the 60s had a basement TV/radio repair business they didn't report as income and they got away with it and were never found out. This was back when the income tax rate was 90%.
>>151959871>This was back when the income tax rate was 90%.Somehow I doubt their basement radio repair business was generating more than $300,000 annual profit.
>>151955882Getting a refund is bad actuality
>>151959871People talk about 90% income tax rate but my question is always what was that money *spent* on because Medicare and Medicaid didn’t exist back then afaiw. Was it just servicing the war debt and building rockets?
>>151957215LISA NEEDS TAXES
>>151960070>Was it just servicing the war debt and building rockets?Yes, that was it. For some reason leftists are obsessed with bringing up the 90% tax rate they had in the 50s while not noting that the government in fact had to pay off its debts from two wars.
>>151960070Also the Interstate Highway System and stockpiling nukes.
LBJ lowered the top income tax rate to 66% and then it was lowered to 33% under Reagan.
>>151955625Test Them Taxes
