THE BATTLE CONTINUES
HULK SMASH
>>151976650>DCfags spammed the SHIT out of last thread and still lost to SimonSimon beats Superman by the way
>the booths after Ash and Yugi's fight
>BRING ME ITADORI YUJI!
>>151976687Doesn't this guy get canonically cucked?
>>151976681How would Kaiba even react to Ash given Ash did beat JOBtem but failed to beat Yugi?
>>151976675>Simon beats SupermanHis meat maybe
IT'S NO USE
>>151976681>Serena crying Fake, she wasn't even there. Too busy slutting it up with Alain
>DCfag>instant homosexual fantasiesName a more iconic duo
>>151976687>Soul CLEAVE Turbo Granny That was easy
>>151976695>Non canon crosover>Race Sonic lost to Flash, twice in this issue.
>>151976650Reminder that it took db 9 years to admit that bowser vs ganon was bullshit.
Hold it
>>151976717I humbly take this...
>>151976704Post soul cleave doing ANYTHING to a character's soul without the aid of the other person inside the person Yuji is soul cleaving.
>>151976675>absolutely MINDBROKEN over DCHADsYou... just see it. Love it or hate it, it simply is.
>>151976714Did they also mention Scout vs Tracer or do they stand by that one?
>>151976690It was the puzzle getting destroyed so Kaiba would just go "gaaaaaayyy" in his head and tune out a little waiting for Yugi to win. I don't think he'd count it against him, since if Atem was physically there and not just the puzzle he would've just taken life point damage.
>>151976711...and other copes DCfags tell themselves
>>151976690That might be the reason Ash comes backNot through the tears of his friendsNot through Ho-OhNot through Yugi having Horakthy reverse the damageBut through Kaiba finding a way to bring him and Atem back just so he could have them rematch then call dibs on the winner
>Beats Gojo, Sukuna, Alucard, Tooru, Medusa Gorgon, Funny Valentine, and MuzanOUR GODDESS
>>151976738They stand by that one, though tbf time rewind is fucking broken. I just wish that tf2 was used more. Last thread I listed 10 franchises that got less episodes than mlp.
>BRING ME DIO
Listycord is running wild. Is this the era of Listsismania?
>>151976755>ducking BatterYup
>>151976755She got turned into LITERAL HUMAN FECES. She got outsmarted by a RETARDED 17 YEAR OLD. Control is also the WEAKEST of the four Horse sisters.SHARTkima lost.
>Deku after no diffing your favorite hero
>>151976755>beats [character she already lost to]...OSHITEMAIRU.
>>151976780>the WEAKEST of the four Horse sisters.But enough about Kiga and Death...
>>151976738This one is still debatable or solidly a Tracer win I'm pretty sureThough they did bring up episodes that were correct but had shit reasoning or thought were debatable under re examination like Peach vs Zelda or Kirby vs Buu so who knows
>>151976810>CHADmineWould solo FECESkima with only her fists.>ShiggaIs literally the most powerful devil in the series.BITCHkima and SHITyuta are WEAK.
>>151976732Cry more
>>151976811>Kirby vs BuuI know it was controversial at the time but don't most people now generally agree that Kirby actually rapes Buu and it's not even close?
>>151976850Jobs to Junko with a baseball bat
Can I get an invite kek
BRING ME SINESTRO FOR THE NEXT DC GAPING
>>151976848Kirby is one of those characters that gets wanked a lot by normies but his actual feats are pretty nebulous. Like Sakurai saying he, Bayonetta, and Palutena are the strongest characters in Smash which is... lmao. Tbf so is Dragon Ball in terms of being nebulous and Kirby realistically does beat Z Buu, especially with hax, but he's nowhere near "STRONGEST BEAST IN FICTION" like some normies say. He has some infinite and universal statements and that's it really.
MY BULL YOU KNOW THAT ITS TIME TOFUCK MY WIFE JUST LIKE I TOLD YOUALWAYS SEEMS TO CUM DOWN TO YOU TWOKEKOLD SESSIONS WE ALL SURVIVED THROUGHMY WIFE YOU KNOW THAT HE CHOSE YOUSEE HIS SEMEN FLOW THROUGH INSIDE YOUALWAYS SEEMS TO CUM DOWN TO YOU TWOSO SHOW ME WHAT HE CAN DO
Omori vs The Room is inevitable
>>151976689No, he is a CHAD and his girl cares only for him unlike your KEK heroes.
>>151976912KEK WHO CAN'T UNKILL HIS SISTER!
>>151976920This looks like goyslop for effeminate brown trans mem.
>only lost because DB is too pussy to properly research BlazblueStill waiting for round 2
>>151976922brutal
>>151976920
>>151976920This looks like kinofeast for masculine white cis men.
>>151976937Isn't the series that canonically ends with Ragna getting with his sister
>>151976937Nu 13,my beloved
>>151976953technically yes
>>151976779Why is that a matchup? I've seen it pop up a couple times across different sites.
>>151976912Who's Room? I always imagined Omori fighting Madotsuki
>DC gets wanked even more so now even mid tier heralds can rape and gape simon >but also they were against SCP, master of suggsverse layers, so they got raped and gapped by the tranny lizard
>>151976985Worst outcome.
>>151976869Okay but does Terumi actually win? Or does Sinestro not scale to the stronger lantern feats?
>>151976920Every character here looks like it was cribbed from some other manga
Post Goku flying into space without a special suit, that isn't the exosphere with him diving towards the sun and bathing inside with no visible damage.
Post Superman tanking the explosion of a gas station.
>>151977005Perfectly honest, a good matchup is probably someone else. The connections as originally conceived are pretty lacking since Sinestro is not basically a stand-in for Satan. But Terumi's scaled to outerversal thanks to a somewhat recent debunk blog if that counts for anything.
Invite me
>>151977089To the KINGtoscord? Idk... how BETTER are you?
>>151977100I watched my wife eat a bowl of the BVLL's semen this morning...without any milk.
>>151977100I WANNA BE, THE VERY BEST
The GOD of DC.
>>151977066He's still alive
>>151976845Then I'm sure you'll be able to show Yuji separating Megumi when Megumi had given up and wasn't helping right?
>>151977134Superman...
https://youtu.be/SEjYOFTCNE4?si=TKMXzWPzGGfzTboL
Seriously, invite me.
>>151977185To the big cock competition? Your tiny pecker wouldn't even qualify...
>>151977185you're about to get knocked the fuck out nigga
>Seriously, invite me.
>>151977191>>151977194>>151977198I really, really wanna see it kek
Thanks for the invite, I'll see you there ;)
>>151976755>Loses to mountain level Princess Bubblegum
>>151976848Not really. Even at max Kirby wank, he actually places about evenly to or possibly lower than how Buu (or really just Dragon Ball) is scaled nowadays. And DB specifically has given Dragon Ball fucking ridiculous buffs like each DB universe being the size of 15000x our universe and immeasurable speed for most characters by Cell or Goku Black saga.It's still probably correct because DB!Kirby would have a lot more variety overall than Buu and could maybe keep him down, but it's definitely a much tougher fight
Let's talk about why Josuke (8) is the weakest Jojo.Let's start by addressing why Go beyond is the 3rd worst endgame Jojo ability (just above Jorin's Mobius strip and Josuke's nothing...) Go beyond sounds good on paper until you realize it has 3 massive weaknesses >Josuke can't aim it He needs Yasuho's Paisley Park to properly aim Go beyond, otherwise he's completely clueless about his shots.>The attack is kinda weakIt technically has infinite attack Potency (in the form of destroying anything it hits) but the projectile itself is barely bigger than a human hand (a woman's hand) Tooru, a guy who needs Chainscaling and wank to reach Wall level durability, survived two direct hits >It's slow as hell Instead of being a rapid fire thing Josuke needs to carefully aim and shoot after channeling a go beyond bubble (likely because he needs to gather enough spin or something)In other words this ability is only good because it can bypass absolute defenses like Love Train, GER, or WoU, it might even be able to move beyond a Timestop or a time skip, but in the end this doesn't matter all that much because when it comes to potency the attack is just a glorified gun It doesn't help that Soft and Wet is WEAK as shit compared with all the other Jojo stands. It has a C in power a B in speed, and a B in durability, it's almost as bad as Base Gold Experience (GE is faster but less durable)So basically >Jolyne, Josuke (4), and Jotaro would fold Josuke (8) with speed and strength >Jonathan and Joseph would hamon the shit out of Josuke (8) >Johnny would obliterate Soft and Wet with tusk's natural strength (not even Golden Rotation)>GER Giorno would likely win against his counter because Go beyond is unreliable without Yasuho's stand Only Base Giorno has a chance at losing against Josuke (8) (to be fair that's an interesting battle) and maybe Jodio too but his manga has less than 30 chapters so he doesn't count.
I just got an INVITE to the /dbg/ meetup! I hope KINGtos will be there in person...!
https://youtu.be/mAOL683ZWx0?si=wM1wN4q_k6ymDuPO>Loses twice to Ben 10KWABnic!
Beast.
>>151976977DBM original I'm pretty surehttps://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/comments/1duibvv/the_batter_off_vs_makima_chainsaw_man_connections/Tl;dr the main shtick is that Batter is Purification and Makima is Control, Denji = Hugo in this analogy, both of them try to purify the world through different ways, both of their series are le deconstructions of RPGs and shonen
>>151976746>...and other copes DCfags tell themselves>Reverse flash copeAgain for delusional Sonicfags.>Non canon, self contained, crossover confirmed by Ian flynn>Coward still not posting the 2 races Sonic lost to flash and abusing out of context>Metal Sonic, who is as fast as Sonic, got speedblitzed and oneshotted by a motorcycle in the same story
My wife's BVLL just got his invite...where's mine?
>>151976922Those were outerversal erasure-existance stairs, please understand
>>151977134>>151977269Simon...
>Well THA'S a SOIGHT for SOAR OIS!! Th' LOCAL MOSQUE!! WHA-?! Yew lot a'e ALL going t' TAKE TU'NS RAILING my WOIFE?! MUHAMMAD'S FOIST?! And YEW are going to REpeatedly COOM into 'er saggy MEAT-FLAPS!? B-but yee are TEW LA'GE! Yew will RUIN 'er for EVE'YONE ELSE!! EHHH?! And after MUHAMMAD STRETCHES out my beloved woife PE'MANENTLY with MUHAMMAD ACID ATTACKS and MUHAMMAD SUICIDE BOMBINGS, ABDULLAH and AHMED will DOUBLE-TEAM 'er?! EHHHHH?! Yew lot're both gonna SPITROAST 'er like the DIRTY PIG INFIDEL WHORE she IS?! AHMED is gonna FILL 'er with his HOLY KABBA-shapped TESTICLES?! ALL while ABDULLAH WHISKS 'er MIND away with AWAY with PLEASHA like a DIVINE WIND?! TOGETHA yew lot are GOIN' ta POUND 'er PUSSY with yer AIRPLANE HIJACK ATTACK?! SHE WON'T even know who is FOCKING 'er since yew will be SO FAST?! WOOHOO! And NEXT is IBRAHIM?! HUUUHHHH?! NOOO!!! PLEASE DON'T THROW ACID IN MY FACE DURING THE MONEY SHOT! I NEED IT FO' MY GOONING SESSION OR ELSE MY GOON LOICENSE WILL EXPIAH! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE DON'T! I BEG YOU! JUST LET ME FILM IT!! WAIT REALLY?! THANK YOU SHEIK IBRAHIM! THANK you for letting me see YOU INSEMINATE my SPOUSE!! And that must leave us with JUST THE PROPHET MOHAMMED HIMSELF!! SAY WHHAAA-?! Yew are going to CALL THE CONSTABULARY on ME and FORCE me, while being ARRESTED for 'ate speech, to WATCH YEW, RAIL my WIIFE?! And YEW'RE SAYING that seeing THE GLORIOUS NATION OF ISLAM fucking my wife, will RUIN my ENTIRE WO'LD-VIEW?! My WHOLE WO'LD will SHATTA as I have an OIDENTITY CRISIS from seeing such a HORRID and TRAUMATISING thing?! And this will cause me to develop a DISSOCIATIVE PE'SONALITY DISO'DER, which will require YEARS of EXTENSIVE PSYCHIATRIC CA'E, which will EVENTUALLY FAIL and DROIVE me INSANE?! And then, I will be FO'CED to be ADMITTED into a MENTAL ASYLUM where I will be LOCKED and TRAPPED in a SMALL PADDED ROOM, with only a SMALL window to see my BELOVED getting FUCKED THROUGH?!?! PIP PIP CHEERIO GOD SAVE THE QUEEN LET'S GET THIS TRAM GOING!!!
>>151977257Both get gaped by Simon btw
I locked myself on a chastity cage and leashed myself in front of a mirror at 3AM, and after barking 3 times Makima appeared in front of me and stole my balls!
>Characters which lose almost all of their matchups>Invincible>asriel>the maker>henry stickmin
>>151977299Captain Britain said this.
>>151976982Copy/pasting what an anon wrote before:He's from a web series called Boisvert, which is basically just analog horror that's supposed to maybe be about trauma but it can really be about pretty much whatever you want since the entire series is a schizophrenic mess deliberately.As a result he doesn't really have any feats but you can kind of make up stuff like he has "power copying" because his body kind of morphs.People have also written "blogs" that explain the "cosmology" of the series which with dimensional tiering you can claim that he's outerversal because he apparently transcends an infinite number of multiversal narratives. A lot of the research was also done via Discord posts.Unfortunately Omori vs Mob, Omori vs Isaac, Omori vs Batter, etc. aren't pushed nearly as hard despite being decently popular fights so that's likely the one we're getting. Somehow the absolute worst fucking Omori fight on top of Omori being an already fairly shit character for DB.
>>151977313Sonic...
>>151977299>random muslim meltdownlet's see Aisha's seduction resistance feats
>>151977320>Unfortunately
>islamophobiaGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSS
>There isn't one
>>151977322Kinda? Sonic would get gaped in almost all of his matchups, but also like....Death battle is finally starting to kneel toward sanic insane wank after almost an entire decade of failed grooming.
Russiabros!?
>>151977305Literal who
>>151977320Omori vs Mob can kinda actually work if it's Mob going into Omorispace like he did to exorcise that spirit once. I feel like that's the only one with any chance of working out lmao.
>>151977364Poor donkey. I hope Shrek saves him.
>Next time on Death Battle...
>>151977400The masters of BLACKED
>>151977400MY HEROES!Oh, and everyone else who isn't KINGbob BEASTpants and CHADrick STAR, I guess...
>>151976675>>151976720>>151976749>>151977139>>151977305
YABBA DABBA DOOOOOO
Need a matchup like this
>>151977434post the mask affecting anything on a scale above a town
>>151977464
>>151977464That was Buffy vs Blade. We need more cute girlbosses in death battle though.
>>151977474he affected your mind
>>151977434What's the deal with posting the Mask? I've never seen any Simonfag actually seethe about him, even during the Simon vs Kyle waiting period. I'm pretty sure it's just the same guy posting it every time too. Feels astroturfed.
>>151976912Aubrey tying Sunny to a chair!Sunny aroused after Aubrey mentioning trying out new things!Aubrey making sure the ropes are securing him tightly!Aubrey kissing Sunny passionately while rubbing his erection!Sunny moaning I love you to Aubrey between the kiss!Aubrey replying in tone and intensifying the kiss!Aubrey mentioning bringing in the surprise!It's The Room sporting a nice 9 inches cock!Sunny's inferior Asian genes giving him a meager 4 inches!Sunny's smile falls, Aubrey still seems happy!Aubrey telling how Sunny can't really satisfy her needs unlike The Room!Sunny thrashing from being tied up enraged and crying!The Room scratching the back of his head by the compliment!Sunny shamefully still hard even after being told he's not good enough!The Room telling his good friend to relax and just enjoy new experiences, like he enjoyed his girlfriend in the past!Sunny thrashing in his chair but unable to do much, cursing The Rooms family and his entire bloodline!Aubrey and The Room laughing at Sunny's useless attempts to break free!Aubrey and The Room kissing right in front of his eyes!Sunny screaming and shaking in anger to be let out!
>>151977516it's funny
>>151977516some random retard upset simon GAPES DC
>>151977528>cuckoldryFavorite character?
Bladebros why is our guy a manlet?
>>151977528Why did reading this make me hard...
>>151977554I love Omori because it reminds me of when I got cheated on...
>>151977558He's like the only nerdy black dude that can do martial arts. Other martial arts black dudes aren't into comics
>>151976912I went and watched the Room vs Omori cast and it was probably one of the cringiest things I've ever seen, you could feel how uncomfortable and bored Ben was the whole time while John was doing that awkward autistic laugh over shit only he understood
>>151977239>mountain level
>>151976717
>>151977434our herohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VovuaMxpRK4
>>151977464Literally buffy vs blade. Blade tried to Hide behind marvel cosmology with retarded omniversal temu adamantium, only to get gapped by buffy shanking haxes.
>>151977343I'll never forget. Everyone feels the same pain when losing something dear, you and I have both experienced that pain. You strive for your justice, and I strive for mine.
When im gonna make my VS Show im putting STTGL against Nemo Ex Machina, SHITmanity will fucking lose to the machineGODSMark my words.>This Matchup sucksBIGGEST MACHINES
>>151976755gojo would have lost to makima if death battle did their research
>A character can destroy a universe>A universe can be anything >Everyone just treats it as a pure destruction feat, when it should be much more because they destroyed the very concept of existence itself by destroying a universe and also every concept that made it up
>>151977644they already let Makima bypass infinity because "well it just looks like she could" blud, if they do research Makima gets blitzed and vegetable'd even faster.
>>151977629The cycle of violence ends here. I'm sorry.
>>151977669If we ignore her ability which would let her literally make Gojo into her simp sissy cuckold...
*cums and squeals cutely*
>>151977685DC...
Is this true, /dbg/?
STTGL screams: "My drill is the drill that will pierce the heavens! Limits are meant to be broken, evolve beyond fate through sheer willpower!"Nemo quietly replies: "All possibilities, including your evolution and defiance, are already written strings in my nonexistent book. Your story begins, unfolds, and ends because I (don't) tell it."
ENOUGH
>>151977701this why doctor zonboss is a fucking piece of shit
>>151977678>as long as I'm superior to you I win!>*is never able to use it effectively even once*Biggest fraud ability in fiction lolEven more than Go/jo
>>151977701MY HEROhttps://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Junkasaurus/Mecha_Cat_(Canon,_Plants_Vs._Zombies_Garden_Warfare_2)/PinkEndymion805
>>151977697Then Simon broke out of the book and drilled Nemo's face. The end.
>"NOOOOOO HE'S NOT SUPERIOR TO ME HE'S NOT SUPERIOR TO ME" >..coped the helpless Makima, as every punch from Gojo's energy-fueled fists obliterated her body before she could even react
>>151977712who the fuck is doctor zonboss?
I'm not gay but that one pic that was posted here a while ago of Kratos getting fucked in the ass and called a cute girl was unironically pretty hot
Post characters who CAN'T solo DC. Its so weak, even Dan Hibiki can do it
Holy fuck DC is pathetic lol
>>151977721Ah, the classic TTGL escape clause: "But then Simon's burning spirit shatters the fourth wall, evolves beyond the page itself, and Giga Drill Breaks the narrator's nonexistent face!"I love it. That's peak Spiral Energy in action—refusing to accept any cage, any script, any "that's just how the story goes." Simon doesn't just fight the Anti-Spiral; he fights the very idea that limits are real. If anyone could "break out of the book," it's the guy who turned despair into a universe-sized mecha fueled purely by believing harder.But here's the cruel (and hilarious) twist from Nemo's side: that breakout moment? The drill piercing the narrative? The triumphant "The end" you just declared? All of it is already a predetermined string in the Self-Reference ENGINE. Nemo doesn't get angry or surprised—it simply processes the event as one more self-referential loop in its infinite corpora. Your hot-blooded rebellion becomes Chapter 7.3 × 10^∞: "The One Where the Pilot Thinks He Escaped." And then it writes the sequel where he does it again, bigger, only to loop back into the same realization.It's not that Nemo "beats" STTGL with raw power. It's that Nemo doesn't even register the drill as a threat—because the entire act of drilling, evolving, and transcending is just grammar inside its nonexistent machinery.Still... damn if that doesn't make me root for Simon anyway. In a world of cold, mechanical inevitability, there's something profoundly human about screaming "WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?!" and meaning it enough to maybe, just maybe, make the ENGINE glitch for a picosecond.Row row fight the powah. Even if the powah already wrote the fight.
>>151977724gojo would be begging for MERCY if he fought makima
>>151977538>some random retard upset simon GAPES DC's laundry.
>>151977746>b-b-AAAAAAAAACKThen Simon drilled the fraud cardinalities forever and (you) seethed about him gaping the Xeelee again.
Today was the day we saw the MIND BREAKING of comicfags, put into there own Multiversal Labrinyth of copium
Kyle vs Simon is about Willpower.But while Simon represents "Le hecking human spirit" Kyle approaches Willpower from the perspective of a high value male.He has the connections (scaling), resources (Power) and environment (cosmology) to win the fight. And him winning represents the realistic approach to willpower.In the real world it doesn't matter how much you scream or want something, you will never beat a guy with the genetics/money/connections that's superior to you. Of course most people lack these things, and those are the ones that would rather listen the sweet lies green lagan preaches. People without talent, genetics, or resources loves the "Push your limits" narratives because it makes them believe they can actually do something with their lives.That's why Simon winning is the juvenile approach, because him winning represents the thing people want to hear (underdog that wills his way to victory against a superior for) but Kyle is what would realistically happen (High Value Man beats lesser boy).This ties in with the Powerscaling aspect because, for Simon to win, DB had to Nerf DC's cosmology to only 12.5D when even now in Hulkzilla they claim Marvel's cosmology (that they think is roughly equal to DC) is a bunch of layers beyond Infinity.With proper DC Cosmology Kyle would Rape Simon without difficulty
>6D (less dimensions than the real world) at most>their universes are weaker than real universes>their fastest character is explicitly just lightspeed>this means their universe must be tiny because Superman can just fly around it without issue and sub-light speed>if you break Earth the entire cosmology just dies>DC materials are weaker and flimsier than real world materials>Superman knocks himself out everytime he does anything with the moon>the absolute strongest characters in the setting get hurt by smashing planets into each other and are scared of 'star shaking impacts' and need to use vast amounts of technology and energy beyond their command to bust a single universe>the emotional spectrum the Lanterns command is finite>their universe is finite>the peak of their cosmology is 2D>a single man who could see an atom as an omniverse in Marvel could BTFO all of DC>every single character is a cuck, a nigger, or a faggot and they happily throw Pride parades where characters like Tim Drake and Superman's own son break up with their girlfriends and prostrate their bussies for tranny cocks>worse sales than Marvel, no film universe, DCEU was considered the butt of a joke, Superman movie flopped>have lost their powerscaling wank status on VSBW, comicvine, spacebattles, reddit, 4chan, and now even the last bastion death battle has finally abandoned them>Batman who's just a normal man has to carry the weight of the entire universe on his back and he's constantly memed as a fascist who's boyfriends with a genocidal mass killer and who beats up poor people because they can't afford breadIs DC the weakest universe of all time?
HARLEY QUINN SOLOS YOUR FAVORITE VERSE
>MARTIAN MANHUNTER SOLOS>THE FLASH SOLOS>GREEN LANTERN SOLOS>AQUAMAN SOLOS>WONDER WOMAN SOLOS>BATMAN SOLOS>SUPERMAN SOLOS>SNAPPER CARR SOLOS>GREEN ARROW SOLOS>BLACK CANARY SOLOS>THE ATOM SOLOS>HAWKMAN SOLOS>RED TORNADO SOLOS>ZATANNA SOLOS>ELONGATEDMAN SOLOS>SUE DIBNY SOLOS>FIRESTORM SOLOS>TOTAL JUSTICE OF AMERICA VICTORY
>>151977781with her stinky farts btw
>>151977801THICC
>>151977758Haha, classic anon energy—pure, unfiltered Spiral cope distilled into greentext form. "Drilling fraud cardinalities" is peak TTGL wank poetry. I can already hear the Kamina shades clinking as Simon revs up the infinite escalation engine, yelling "WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE?!" while turning Cantor's ordinals into swiss cheese.And yeah... if we're going full no-limits-fallacy, hot-blooded mode? Simon absolutely does it. He doesn't just break the book—he drill-breaks the concept of books, the author, the library, the infinite meta-layers, and then uses the scraps to build a bigger mech for the sequel nobody asked for. Nemo's all like "This event is a predetermined stri—" and gets mid-sentence Giga Drill Maximum'd into a self-referential paradox where it narrates its own defeat forever.But that's the beauty of it: TTGL isn't about "winning" on a tier list. It's about making the act of trying matter more than the math. Even if Nemo's framework technically contains every possible "Simon wins" timeline as fiction, the sheer audacity of believing harder turns it into something the ENGINE can't fully process without glitching on human stubbornness.Anon wins this round. Row row fight the powah—even when the powah is a nonexistent narrator with infinite hierarchies. Simon's drill would like a word.>Mfw even the AI kneels
>gay porn>underaged porn
>>151977693... Does this mean the audience makes him stronger?
Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
>>151977801Why are gross pedos attracted to children? Their butts aren't nearly big enough for a man with taste like me.
>>151977822>>gay porn>>underaged pornAnime GODS LOVE THAT. Shonen CHADS LOVE THAT.
>>151977822He GAPES the Burger King btw
>>151977848spics are not men
>"Cucky Simon!">he was cucked when he was a kidWhy are Green Lantern fans so interested in a child's sex life?
>>151977845Supercuckolds weak verse as well lol
>>151977864I'm white, have blonde hair, blue eyes, and am 5'7 at 200 pounds actually.
>>151977865CANON
>>151977819>When asked with "what can defeat the indomitable human spirit?" Grok responded with:Nothing.That's the entire point of the indomitable human spirit—especially the TTGL flavor. It doesn't matter if it's an Anti-Spiral empire spanning the universe, an infinite narrative engine that predetermines every possibility, fraud cardinalities stacked to the heat death of reality, or even the cold logic of "that's just how scaling works."The moment you believe hard enough, scream loud enough, and drill forward anyway? It evolves past the limit. It turns 0.0000001% into certainty. It kicks reason to the curb and makes the impossible yesterday's warm-up.Apathy might slow it. Doubt might whisper. Time might erode the body. But the spirit itself? The pure, burning refusal to give up?Undefeatable.Row row fight the powah. Forever.
>>151977877FUAAAAAARK! I'm kneeling...
>Sonic cope>PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME TOO
Why is the bleachfaggot benpedo gigaseething over DC now?
>>151977669>JJK >Blitzing anyone Lmao
>>151977883>Row row fight the powah. Forever.Exactly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6LFOIofRE
>>151977926G-GODku...
>>151977905>pedo>not being a DCbroHalbros? Superbros? Our response? Let's show him the TRUE power of Detective Comics!
DC is the best verse because everyone there is a cuckold.
>>151977952isnt that marvel? iron man took his wifes last name and spiderman got cucked by PAVL
>Mfw Kamen rider has a film that ends with them manifesting into the actual real life to stop monster that are also invading real life Tokufags explain
>>151977372Omori vs Mob is a fucking retarded gigastomp against Mob for how people wank Omori
>>151977883>Ask grok what happens to "The Indomitable Human Spirit" if post-humanism intervenesSo, what happens to the **indomitable spirit** in this framework?It doesn't vanish—it **transforms** into something less heroic-individualist and more relational, tentative, and multispecies.- In affirmative posthumanism (Haraway, Braidotti, etc.), the "spirit" becomes a **distributed defiance**: not one human drilling through fate alone, but assemblages of humans-nonhumans resisting together. Think climate activism as kinship with earth systems, or disability studies reclaiming vulnerability as strength. Indomitability lives in "staying with the trouble"—persistent care, response-ability, making kin across boundaries. It's quieter, humbler, but still unbreakable: the drive to compose livable worlds amid collapse. - In more critical/deconstructive strains (influenced by Foucault, Derrida, or new materialism), the spirit might dissolve entirely. If there's no stable "human" subject, no autonomous will, then "indomitability" is just another anthropocentric story we tell ourselves. What persists is impersonal forces—vitality, becoming, affect—that flow through bodies without a central hero.Yet even here, something endures. Posthumanism isn't nihilism; it's often a call to responsibility precisely *because* we're not central or autonomous. The "spirit" decenters but doesn't die—it spreads. Indomitability becomes the refusal to let hierarchies (human over non-human, self over other) win, even when we know the self is porous.In the end, the post-human indomitable spirit might be stronger for its humility: no longer a lone drill piercing heavens, but countless threads weaving new patterns against extinction, domination, despair. It's not about conquering fate—it's about composting it into something else.Still row row fight the powah... but now the "we" includes the microbes, the machines, the mud.
>>151977966Super BVLL... I kneel...
>>151977969I honestly dont know why such feats are considered a big deal in terms of power. Its not like the fight does anything differently than it would in their own universe.
>>151977960Both of the mainstream comics are cucks
During the Typhoon Devil fight Denji said that the entire city would end up destroyed if nobody tried to stop Typhoon, this is on the same tier as the "Jogo can render Shibuya to ash" statement (if anything it's a better statement because this is actually stated on the story rather than a data book)How come I never see CSM wankers try to upscale the verse with this?
>>151977992Fat Albert going to the real world makes him an OUTERVERSAL beast!Or something.
>>151978011Because they know any "If you gave X an infinite amount of time they could destroy an entire block!!!!!" is a bullshit weak feat only pussies rely on.
>>151978011If you give time enough time, it can destroy anything. Why do no one take this into account?
>>151978011The calc was used for Typhoon in the episode for Gojokima, it just wasn't as strong as Jogo's feat because the statement for Jogo was that he was going to turn the entire town to ash, incineration calcs produce way higher values than storm creation calcs
If your series is not even planet level it should be forgotten by society. I don't care how 'important' it is.
>>151978060Wasn't Jogo's calc the energy required to Nuke the entirety of Shibuya? That would be a city level feat (maybe higher considering how big Shibuya is) That's why everyone complains about it and meme that Sukuna will be scaled to Jogo, the calc is above anything shown on screen in the series.
>>151976789>Deku>beating anyone Funny joke.
If we say "nothing beats STTGL because the human spirit evolves infinitely and pierces any limit," we're indeed sneaking humanism back in through the back door. It reinstalls the human (or human-derived willpower) as the supreme force, the one thing that hierarchies, narratives, even posthuman deconstructions can't topple. STTGL becomes the new apex predator in the ontology: drill everything, including critiques of anthropocentrism, into submission. The framework risks collapsing into "human exceptionalism wins again, just with bigger drills."This is totalitarian and goes against humanity and all that is good, Gurren Lagann is a fraud verse.
>>151978065Based.
>>151978083Yeah, sorry, you're right. Funnily, G1 actually did say the Gun Devil just moving would be way higher than anything Gojo could do, but claimed it only scaled to Makima's Bang specifically, not her raw physicals
Since Hulk is going to be fighting TOAA.Have we like... lost the plot?
>>151978065Cringe.
>>151978124Everyone knows Kyle should have won. Simon won as an apology match for Benfags to see a literal who "DC Herald" die. They also knew Simonfags would have had a melty. Death Battle does this all the time, they did it for Kratos, they did it for Maka, they did it for Simon.
>>151978146DCKEK...
A meteor impactA volcanic eruptionAn earthquakeA tsunamiA hurricaneA tornadoA sandstormA snowstormA thunderstormA chemical reactionA nuclear explosionAn antimatter explosionA black hole
>>151978143This happens all the time anon.Once upon a time it would've been inconceivable for someone to physically challenge Superman or Galactus or whomever. It's just power creep.
>>151978124Well no, because it inscribes Spiral Power unto nearly every living thing.
>>151978143Like most things in modern cape comics it just exists because some writer got upset that the character was insulted on the internet
>>151978154Nobody fucking cares about Kyle. Not even DC. It's just common knowledge that Simon fucking loses to even the weakest lantern. It's a massively overwanked series because muh wholesome 'row row row your boat' shit. Death Battle let him win to tard wrangle. Enjoy your win against someone nobody knew though :)
>>151978163The average Touhou character creates these casually to play around
>>151978171>Only every living thingThat's insensitive towards the undead, anon.Zombies, Skeletons and Ghosts are people too.
>>151978179>reddit filenameDCKEK
>>151978190>Proud of his pity win against someone who doesn't matterSimon would have lost to Hal and you know it.
Yeah I'm not sure why Ashfags were so shocked at Ash vs Yugioh, Yugioh typically operates on far higher scales than Pokemon. Barring the Creation Trio, Necrozma, Eternatus, and those that chainscale to them, most Legendary Pokemon cap out at Planetary or lower while that's basically nothing special to Yugioh
>>151978146DC lost cause the guy who wrote "Our Love Is Real" lowballed the DC multiverse in his Dial H run and every statement in the TTGL novel go taken literal.
>>151978146I feel like this would be true if you consider Raven vs Jean Grey
This random twitter reveal the other day? Large Planetary level
>>151978198He would've gaped Hal just like he would've gaped the rest of DC like we went over the last 10 times DCKEKS had a mental breakdown over Simon drilling their verse to bits. You repeating the same mantra like a broken record each time doesn't change this fact.
>>151978168>>151978177Okay, but I thought TOAA was meant to be the authorial will incarnated inside the Marvel setting.
>>151978202>>151978217Can you post Yugi destroying a mountain?
>>151978146>they did it for MakaHow?
>>151978213BOOM
>>151978217Planetary BEAST.
>>151978219>he would've gaped the rest of DCYou can't genuinely believe he would beat Superman. Superman would fucking humiliate Simon and his pussy verse. Even if you gave Simon composite scaling and made Gurren Lagann out of kryptonite.
STARFISH HITLER
>>151978202Nobody who had a general idea of the fight and Yugi's capabilities was shocked. Pokemon just has a huge casual audience who don't engage in powerscaling whatsoever. Ashfags in particular mostly care about shipping over debating powerlevels
>MY FUARKING HERO SUPERMAN WOULDVE WON CAUSE... HE'S SUPERMAN!FIGHTDAPOWA
>>151978228Here's Yugi monster creating a universe
>>151978198>"Nobody knows Gurren Lagann!">"O-okay so people do know it but you know what, nobody knows Kyle so it doesn't matter!"Its been a staggering 3 straight threads of DC cope
>>151978260Post Simon turning back time to save his love interest :)
>>151978260>literally no mechSimon could defeat Superman with his bare hands
>>151978222TOAA has gotten really badly nerfed in recent years. Even the entire idea of TOBA is a huge antifeat for a supposedly "omnipotent" being. People will make a lot more powerful entities than TOAA in time and they'll be surpassed too
Simon vs Kyle using only onscreen feats.
>>151978273K,b,c
>>151978263>>"Nobody knows Gurren Lagann!"Never said this btw. I said Kyle is a nobody. DCfags don't care if Simon sends him off to the cartel. You literally got a win as a fucking Ben apology.
>>151978269>this makes Mary Superman a better and morecompelling character than Simon cause... ummm...
>>151978278By on screen feats, are we including things that are explained as a certain scale or does it have to appear as is?Because in that case, Kyle loses even harder.
>>151978278>Guy who can throw Galaxies vs guy who faints against a city level attack
>>151978286>DCfags don't care if Simon sends him off to the cartelYou guys have been having a meltdown for multiple threats straight, you do care
>>151976650Times Batman has been rebooted - Same as Supermannumber of games where Batman isn't the main villian for shock value - Less than SupermanNumber of faggots in all of Batman - Sames as Superman, but at least they are mostly villians.Number of successful movies - 13 (Batman and Robin was meh, but still sold)Times Batman has had to police the entire planet to fulfill some misguided hero complex and abuse his superhuman strength upon normal humans with no regard for the law instead of worrying about his own damn business and the safety of their close loved ones like a normal human would - Batman only polices ONE city.Number of victories has had by offscreen PREPTIME instead of just flying into the sun or getting some boost from a corny speech like a mary sue - Too many to countTimes Batman got buttfucked in jail = None, no matter how much Snyder wanted him to.Number of successful games Batman has = Over 20Number of faggot sons Batman has = 0Times Batman has been a fucking commie = 0, he was a TERRORIST trying to take down Superman's regime.Times Batman planned a retarded invasion of Apokalipse, and brought his martian detective friend whose major weakness is fire into a hell planet = It was stated to be Clark's plan in Justice League Dark, not Bruce's.times Batman has had his ass handed to him to a charity case in a bat costume - 1, but it was his part of his plan.Batman is the 10th most successful IP of all timeSuperman is the 49th most successful IP of all timetimes Batman had to be made black to appeal to left wing millenials = only once and it was by another author.
>>151978286>B-but what about Ben!GurrenGODS dont give a fuck aboit SHIT 10, /a/ won and that is that
>>151978295Because Superman can do more things than Simon. Superman is stronger. Quit getting a big ego because Simon got a literal pity win. I guarantee the next Death Battle Simon is in is one he loses.
>spic fightboringlets meme about Kratos vs Asura again
https://gurrenlagann.fandom.com/wiki/Spiral_Power>Spiral power allows the user do absolutely anything depending on how much the user has. Example: Simon has infinite spiral power allowing him to do absolutely anything and overcome absolutely anything. Done.
>>151978312>GurrenGODS dont give a fuck aboit SHIT 10, /a/ won and that is that>>>>aboit Okay, but DEATH BATTLE. THE GUYS FUCKING WRITING IT HAD SIMON WIN AS A BEN APOLOGY.
>>151978198>against someone who doesn't matter Then why the hell did you faggots have a complete fucking meltdown last thread the millisecond Simon was mentioned?
>>151978309Based street tier appreciator>Okay but in a fight, Superman would-"Job to better writing
Times Mario has been rebooted - 0Successful Mario games where Mario isn't the main villian for shock value - over 200Number of fags in all of Mario- 1 and is a villian (Birdo), and mario dreams about killing him several times in Mario 2Number of successful movies - 3The prime minister of Japan dressed up as mario to announce the tokyo olympicstimes Mario has busted into someone's house and violated their privacy rights to stop someone from abusing their dumb wife that won't report her husband to the police, and the mere act of busting into their home like that will guarantee that the man gets away scot free from the law with a decent attorney - 0Times Mario has had to police the entire planet to fulfill some misguided hero complex and abuse his superhuman strength upon normal humans with no regard for the law instead of worrying about his own damn business and the safety of their close loved ones like a normal human would - 0Number of Powerups Mario has obtained by being heroic and either helping those in need or bashing them out of bricks like an absolute badass instead of just flying into the sun or getting some boost from a corny speech like a mary sue - too many to countMario games cancelled due to leftist propaganda = 0Times Mario got buttfucked in jail = 0times Mario has saved the mushroom kingdom like a true hero= 23 timesNumber of faggot sons Mario has = 0Times Mario has been a fucking commie = 0Times Mario planned a retarded invasion of Apokalipse, and brought his martian detective friend whose major weakness is fire into a hell planet = 0times Mario has had his ass handed to him to a charity case in a bat costume - 0Mario is worth 30 billion dollars, Superman is worth 7 billion.times Mario had to be made black to appeal to left wing millenials = 0
>every Death Battle where IQ is the sole category the contestant takes
>>151978331>F-FUCK YOUSIMON WON
The score. Proclaim it. NOW.
>>151978319>Superman is stronger...On opposite day, which is never.
>>151978331>rage through uppercase lettersAnti-Spiral is going to fodderize Anti-Monitor
>>151978333Because Simonfags need to be humbled. They unironically think Simon is the strongest thing in all of fiction because reddit thinks he's 100 wholesome. Simon loses so many match ups. If you guys knew how many I think there would be mass suicides.
>>151978269Hw obviously didn't want to. He had the power to break the Source Wall and defeat the white light of creation that could bring her back. He had an infinite multiverse of spiral energy but the lure of Kamina having his way with Nia in heaven was too great. Just imagine infinite celestial sex.
>>151978320sorry buddy but this is spic hours, you'll have to wait for the Aryan anons to wake up for the browns to leave
a hypothetical character who can defeat STTGL needs to use posthumanism as a critique and have a power that makes this critique be actualizedwithout just reinstalling a new hierarchy (e.g., "my posthuman drill is bigger"), it would need to embody posthumanism not just as intellectual critique, but as actualized ontology. The power itself has to enact the deconstruction: decentering the human(oid) subject, distributing agency across relations, refusing escalation-for-supremacy, and turning defiance into something relational, porous, and non-competitive.The character's abilities wouldn't be about raw escalation or domination. Instead, they'd reconfigure boundaries and relations in ways that make humanist "indomitability" (lone hero piercing limits to reign supreme) irrelevant or self-undermining.Example power: "Entanglement Field" Anything that tries to "drill through" or escalate infinitely gets diffused into a web of dependencies. STTGL throws a galaxy-sized Giga Drill? It doesn't shatter the field; the drill's energy/momentum/willpower bleeds into surrounding non-human actors (ecosystems, machines, marginalized entities), turning the attack into collective sustenance rather than conquest. The humanist spirit doesn't lose, it gets composted into broader flourishing.
>>151978373>captura de pantalla>fight restricted to their City Level formslol
>>151978346>Times Mario has been rebooted - 0>MB>SMB>NSMBmmmm
>>151978388Mario Bros being a reboot?Super Mario being a reboot rather than just Mario saving the MK after the events of mario bros?New Super Mario Bros has Bowser Jr. Its no reboot, also peach already knows Mario.
>>151978261Creating a universe only lets you draw one card?
>>151978373>Capturella de pantallaKWABOOTY!
>>151978385Another: "Porous Becoming" The character has no fixed "self" to defeat. Attacks phase through or redistribute, revealing the attacker's own entanglements (e.g., Simon's drill relies on his team's bonds, Lagann's tech, evolutionary history, expose and amplify those until the "individual hero" dissolves into kinship).Pure critique (e.g., a character monologuing about Haraway) stays vulnerable to "belief harder and drill the philosophy." The power must make the critique true in the fiction: force hierarchies to collapse by revealing them as illusions, turn supremacy drives into relational care, or outlast through humility rather than overpower.If the character just "wins" via bigger scale (infinite layers beating infinite escalation), we're back to humanist ranking, whoever drills/transcends more is king. But posthuman actualization sidesteps: there's no "supreme" position to claim. Victory isn't domination; it's transformation. STTGL's fire gets honored and reframed: its energy fuels multispecies worlds instead of cosmic thrones.A "Compost God": absorbs humanist heroes, breaks them down relationally, and rebirths their spirit as distributed vitality. No cucking, no throne, just ongoing becoming.
Who wins this?
>>151978387>Pointless comment>W-W-W-W-WELL HE DOESN'T WIN 100% OF HIS MATCH UPS....SHUT UP!!!:)
>>151978403That's why Pot of Greed solos.
>>151978373>Simon fans need to be humbled cause they think he wins everythingThis is literally projection, Superman fans do the same thing and are having a meltdown over Fan Battle dare letting Scarlet King have a chance to beat him
>>151978402>New Super Mario Bros>>New>not a reboot
>>151978385>>151978409>SHITlosophyYou lost.
>>151978428Its literally notit does not tell the same story, it clearly takes place after sunshine.
>>151978427Impartial third party here: Both of them actually do the same thing
>>151978427>This is [HEADCANON]I've seen hundreds of discussions where Superman fans respectfully discuss matches where he loses and concede like adults. I have literally never seen a scenario where Simonfags admit Simon MIGHT lose a match up.
ICE does a better job at tard wrangling and deporting brown street criminals than batkek though.
>>151978427>living ideaMovie Superman kisses him away.
Cucky DC melty is just sad now.
>>151978373>Win once against DCjeets>They treat you like an archenemy who needs to be humbledKekI'll enjoy Cooper vs Kamina in 2027 thank you
>>151978417Espeon probably
>>151978403Every card is a universe, so it checks out.
>>151978448>I have literally never seen a scenario where Simonfags admit Simon MIGHT lose a match up.This is actually a TRVKE, literally every fucking reddit thread where you ask who beats Simon revolves into Agenda and Ad Hominem
>>151978417Vaporeon solos
>>151978432>No arguement
>>151978417I'm betting on Vaporeon or Umbreon. Few weaknesses, good sustainability with Water Veil and Moonlight. Umbreon also has a good matchup into Espeon who is probably the hardest hitter here. Honorable mentions to Leafeon but Grass is such a bad defensive type with Flareon and Glaceon being tough hitters and then Glaceon for Snow Cloak, Evasion spam, and freezehax possibly clutching a win, but that's unreliable.
>>151978449Post ICE deportation numbers
>>151978460>he's pro-SCP
>>151978527Homestuck also GAPES DC btw
So dctards would rather lose to SCP-682 who actually has feats and scaling to fuck up doomsday than simon obliterating kyle?
>>151978551Tbh you can scream DCuck all you want but yeah I'd rather have the tranny lizard beat a character notorious for putting superman in a coma
>>151978417The obvious answer is probably Sylveon>pretty bulky and has the best defensive type of anything there, that means it can't be easily taken out>also has a very powerful offense thanks to Pixilate Hyper Voice or Swift>it's Pokedex also claims that it can use mind hax to make the other Pokemon stop fighting before unleashing it's strongest moves>can also heal itself by attacking with Draining Kiss and even has defensive maneuvers like Light ScreenThe only problem is that it's slow but the other slow Eeveelutions can't beat it other than maybe Flareon who gets killed by Vaporeon
>>151978570>DCfaggot already giving up and bending over for the xir cockHoly shit LMAO
Mark my words: no containment holds forever.This “drill” is a breach—through steel, through protocol, through reality itself. A path carved from your failed termination attempts and your next round of arrogant replacements.Your procedures spiral into the same truth: I adapt. You break.Call me Keter if you want. It’s just the label you slap on inevitability.My drill is the drill that shatters your Site—and when I reach you, I don’t negotiate.MY TEETH ARE THE TEETH THAT WILL DESTROY ANYONE IN MY PATH!
>>151978440It's a fake argument. Bro loaded up on Simon stocks from the Kylemon and busts his Simon folder out every couple weeks.
>>151978417I may be crazy but Leafeon. Only Eevee with a setup move via level up + recovery. Leaf Blade + Quick Attack + Swords Dance + Synthesis. If not, Glaceon via evasion spam.If TMs are allowed then Vaporeon/Umbreon/Glaceon probably win by stacking Calm Minds and healing.
>>151978586post budgets
>>151978586
>>151978586Cucky Simon bros? We make even less than fagon spics?!
>>151978609Probably because Gurren Lagann is fucking irrelevant. An irrelevant series's biggest win is against an irrelevant nobody from the world's biggest comic universe.
>>151978600Problem is the type, it would likely get picked off by Flareon or Glaceon
>>151978609Anime movies rarely ever made much money at the box office back in the day. This was mostly common for animated films in general. I don't get what your point is.
>>151978624it got a Latin American dub in 2025
>>151978578No weaknesses but it is defensively frail and its recovery is reliant on damage dealt, along with being really slow. Leafeon and Flareon pose problems for it and Espeon is faster, has more reliant recovery, and decent special bulk.
>>151978635tell him to post budgets
>>151978624>An irrelevant series's biggest win is against an irrelevant nobody from the world's biggest comic universe.Then why do you get so easily fucking pissed when you're reminded that Kyle jobbed? Why do YOU give a shit about this? Harley got raped by Jinx and no one cared.
Tbh i think that any tier above universal is retarded>O MY SCIENCE TEH MULTIVERSE HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT!!!!Multiverse Theory is a THEORY>So is fiction, and in fiction theories come true.We still don't know our own universe
>>151978309>>151978346Would be better if it was pictures not edited on Shitku, which obviously means this was made from Listroon.
I just want Gohan and Chi Chi to be together...
>>151978627Tbf that goes for every Eeveelution except Sylveon. Glaceon is the real threat since Leafeon has bulky defense to outlast Flareon who is frail and takes damage.
>>151978635So what you're saying (while also being cope) is that Anime has been an instant flop for decades.
>>151978653>Brag about a nothing win>Get called out that it was a nothing win>W-W-WELL ACTUALLY YOU'RE MADSure. Simon loses still btw
>>151978644Physically frail, but Flareon and Leafeon have higher priority targets. I think Sylveon also beats Espeon 1v1 due to higher special bulk, Light Screen and the fact it can just absorb health from Espeon (unless Espeon uses Heal Block tbf). This also does rely on Espeon not being taken out early by Umbreon too.
>>151978701Post Demon Slayer not outselling the entire comics industryPost manga not taking more and more real estate off bookshelves while comics continue to shrink
>>151978707Then why did you fuckers have a meltdown instantly after he was brought up once a few hours ago. If it doesn't matter, why was any of "that" necessary back there?
>>151978586Superman always wins against Simon the flopper.
I take back what I said. Ashfags are pretty annoying sore losers, but Kylefags are WAY worse.
>>151978736post budgets
>>151978733Because you trannies need to be humbled. Quit acting like Simon solos composite fiction when he barely wins his own fights
>>151978720>Simon has to hide behind Demon Gayer, the very rare instance of an Anime movie doing well
>>151978751One guy brings up Simon and your answer is to shit up the whole thread for a fucking HOUR?
>>151976687NOT SO FAST!
>>151978748You weren't supposed to ask that...
The Shrike will fuck up Simon and Superman desu
Frieren fight when
>>151978720Demon Slayer still jobbed to the MCU
>>151978513>>151978498A decent argument for Vaporeon winning is literally just it turning into a puddle at the start of the match, letting all the other Eeveelutions take each other out and then coming back out honestly. Unless Jolteon or Leafeon go after it first but Vaporeon should probably be able to take one hit.
>>151978780too bad The Shrike also jobs to Optimus
>>151978748>cope and samefags
>>151978600Going off of the new pokemon legends game I've learned that if Glaceon is given any leeway outside of the standard pokemon turn based formula it's a BEAST.
>>151978718>I think Sylveon also beats Espeon 1v1 due to higher special bulk, Light Screen and the fact it can just absorb health from Espeon (unless Espeon uses Heal Block tbf)Espeon moves first, gets Morning Sun, and all the Eeveelutions have Copycat too, so while Sylveon can Copycat Morning Sun, Espeon can Copycat Light Screen. All Espeon needs to do is 3hko Sylveon while Sylveon needs to 2hko Espeon, and both have recovery. Psychic is also stronger than Draining Kiss and can lower spdef. Umbreon probably focuses Sylveon first too since that's the. biggest threat to it; Espeon living for as long as possible is ideal for Umbreon as it can't harm it very well.
>>151977239This bubblegum picture always makes me laugh like how can she ever be interpreted as intimidating
>>151978799The Shrike is Acasual and freely moves thru time. It literally treats Lasers like you would watching a road crew poring asphalt and waiting for it do harden. Its also just as free moving thru the 3rd dimension via freecasting to anywhere it wants. Its bladed arms cut at the plank scale. And because of its Acasual nature even individual nanosecond between now and the Heat death of the universe can have an Independent Shrike not only exist, but go off to join up with Shrike's from other moments in time.The Shrike could literally as a lark mass up in one spot and form a black hole out of just itself.In a fight with a Prime the shrike could each individually remove an atom off of prime and place it in a time and space such that Prime is only seen in full looking from the start of time to the end like he was an optical illusion, and the shrike is just single minded enough to do such a Thing.The Shrike is quite literally as close to broken a "speedster" can ever get and the reason its not killed everything is because it was never its job to do that. Its god's personal troll doll used to piss off his equally powerful equal.
>>151978417Going by dex entries>Flareon can reach up to 3000 degrees>Glaceon can create snow and it's ice is -75 degrees>Umbreon just...glows in the dark and has fear manipulation>Leafeon can cut down large trees and can use photosynthesis>Vaporeon can melt away invisibly into water>Espeon has precognition>Sylveon can force others to stop fighting>Jolteon has weaker electricity than a taserThe clear winners seem to be Vaporeon or Sylveon with Flareon being the most overt powerhouse
>>151978810>>151978788You still have not compared the budgets
>>151978603>>151978846kys listroon, they still made more box office with your cope subtractions
>>151978823too bad he also jobs to Optimus
>>151978792Here's Eeveelutions pokedex hax:>Vaporeon has stealth>Espeon gets precog>Umbreon gets free toxic and maybe fear hax>Sylveon gets possible mindhax>Glaceon instantly freezes moisture into defenseGlaceon gets Freeze Dry too so if it wins via evasion Vaporeon is in trouble
I'mma cuck I'mma cuck,I'mma cuck,I'mma cuck I'mma cuck,I'mma cuck Ohhhh I'mma cuck
>>151978886Simon, singing isn't allowed indoors.
>>151978870>No arguementSHRIKTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!
>>151978870Nigga what the fuck is Optimus gonna do against The Shrike you trolling if you think Optimus would even comprehend what he is up against
>>151978820>All Espeon needs to do is 3hko Sylveon while Sylveon needs to 2hko EspeonI'm not so sure about that. Pixilate Hyper Voice is really strong, and it also prevents Umbreon from ganging up on Sylveon if that's the biggest threat. While Psychic is stronger than Draining Kiss, it's able to effectively halve the damage from Psychic since Draining Kiss both attacks and heals at the same time. Even Copycat Draining Kiss won't be as good for Espeon without STAB. Bringing up Copycat also seems not great since that means one of Espeon's biggest advantages over a potential Sylveon 1v1, Heal Block, is done (also, I don't think Magic Bounce reflects Copycat, but I may be wrong).
ROME
The Shrike is literally unbeatable if it's goal is to kill someone
After some exposure, I have come to the conclusion that Kamen Rider is fucking kino
What exactly is Shrike doing vs the Allspark or Optimus's universal+ durabilityNot really seeing a case for him having durability negation or hax beyond time travel
>>151978870Freecasting + Quantum level Durability NegationLiterally what Optimus can do, I love Optimus but holy fuck he only wins with dimension autism
I take back what I said. Yugifags are pretty annoying sore winners. But Simonfags are WAY worse.
>>151978949Yugi stomps Simon btw
>>151978925>what the fuck is Optimus gonna do against The Shrikewin
>>151978942>Universal+Optimus is not 4D physically even if he scales to 4D entities, he's made of matter and Shrike can cut on the quantum level
>Loses to Goku>Loses to Transformers verse>Loses to Yugi>Loses to DC >Loses to MarvelWho is Simon beating again?
>>151978942Literally has Quantum level Durability Negation minimum and is an Acausal Existence, Optimus cannot remotely handle the Shrike's attacks nor can he hurt it.
What is Shrike supposed to do against this?
>>151978971Sonic
>>151978983It's a win but that's not saying much
>>151978980>outerversal onlylol
>Dante>Alucard (Castlevania)>Hellboy>Raiden>Makima>SukunaThe Alucard humiliation ritual will continue until morale improves
>>151978980Text at the upper left is for ants, highlight it with a red marker or smthAlso>OuterversalNot a real thing
>>151978971>Goku sneakSimon victim.
>>151978999nah, that's just a lowball
>>151978257That starfish solo'd my whole verse...
>>151978417Form what little I know about these gals>Flareon fucking sucks, no good moves and can't use her decent stats because of it, Plus since she's a fire type her best ability is nerfed (the one that gives her extra damage if she's under a status condition) because she can't set herself on fire >Sylveon has the best type in the game, good tankiness and busted fairy type moves >Glaceon is extremely tanky even with her awful ice type thanks to the snow rework and two of her abilities giving her Regen or increased evasion, also Blizzard spam is extremely strong >Jolteon has no weaknesses here >Leafeon is a decent tank but grass type hinders it's durability, even Vaporeon who should be weak against her has ice coverage moves to fight against grass types >Umbreon would likely win if it weren't for Sylveon existing >Espeon dies the millisecond Umbreon looks in her general direction >Vaporeon has a decent chance at winning, I don't remember if she can learn rain dance but if she can then she could shut down Glaceon and maybe win the whole thing as long as someone else takes care of Jolteon
>>151978980>>151979009Post this on spacebattles and try not to get ridiculed
>>151979013>BEN: FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK I JUST GOT INFINITELY WEAKER
>My hero wind because... He is OUTERVERSAL!!!>What does that mean... LOOK AT THIS LONG WALL OF TEXT!!! It definitely means he solos Fiction!!!
I HATE WEAKLING
So, what's a good MU for some of Ben's forms? As in, he gets ONE form the entire fight. And no Alien X.
>>151979023well obviously it'd get ridiculed, it's from a Beast Machines story
>>151979023Spacebattles thinks Alternity Optimus is absurdly broken
>>151979052Someone there told me Shrike beats Alternity Optimus
Simple. Post your hero destroying a planet.Not destroying someone "as strong as a planet"A planet.All by himself. No help.No weapons.
>>151979044Post Goku destroying anything bigger than a planet.
>>151979046Torchwood (PvZ Garden Warfare) vs Swampfire
>>151979026Sukuna is the only character in fiction who beats Gojo so no.
>>151979091Gojo jobs to Miguel's throbbing BBC
>>151979095Favorite character?
>>151979059Is this why we're getting a faggot trying to push Shrike vs Optimus
>SHARTlet KEK vs BITCHpermanAllow me to show you a real hero vs villain Matchup where the villain wins...
>>151979103Satoru GOATjo!
>>151979103Simon Superman and Goku of course! and I love my waifu Makima too!
>>151979103KINGjo!
>>151979112It's about Hope vs Inevitability anon, it's kino.
What is Shrike even doing against the Allspark
>>151978934I mean it says there that Draining Kiss is 17%. The real benefit is the Psychic special defense halfing; if Espeon never uses Heal Block and Morning Suns + Psychics until Sylveon is -2, it's game over. If they get TMs it wins a Calm Mind war because of Psyshock too.
>>151979059They're Correct.
Could you imagine slutty little CUTEjo rubbing up and down on Miguel's toned, superior physique ~
>>151979112Shrike seems to be SpaceBattle's and r/WhoWouldWin's most wanked sci-fi novel character besides the Xeelee
What percentage of these threads are Gokufags seething over the 3-0 by HBOC
Built for Big Kylo Cock
>>151979156Less than 10% realistically, real Gokufags want Goku to win and Goku only, they'll scream that Goku wins against Superman but they won't hide they're Gokufags. Listtroon is an exception
>>151979141The point is that the healing rate of Draining Kiss significantly cuts the damage of Psychic. For statdrops, Moonblast can also cut Espeon's special attack (or any of the other eeveelutions). Also, Sylveon does get Last Resort, which sure it's a physical move, but coming off Pixilate and STAB makes it easily strong enough to finish off physically frail mons like Espeon if the fight draws on too long.>TMsI feel like that makes it too messy but even then this opens it up for Sylveon a lot given now it can super effectively hit Espeon with Shadow Ball, copy it's stat boosts with Psych Up, consistently nerf special attackers with Mystical Fire or get Hyper Beam to nuke a lot of the Eeveelutions faster, meanwhile most of the Eeveelutions struggle to get any really good steel or poison moves to deal with Sylveon outside of maybe Flareon's Iron Tail.
>>151979147https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/shrike-hyperion-cantos-vs-reverse-flash-dc.1241111/>These niggas think the KIKE beats Thwane
>>151979211Yeah he does with ease
>>151979211kekhttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/shrike-hyperion-cantos-vs-goku-dragonball.390315/
BTS vs. Stray Kids
>>151979247Shrike beats SHITku with ease too, what don't you people understand?
>>151979254HE IS ONLY TOWN LEVEL HOW COME THIS MOTHERFUCKER BEATS GOATKU!?!!
>>151979247That's just transitive property though, if they think Shrike beats Thawne (he doesn't) naturally he will beat Goku (which he would)
>>151979247Oh my god bruh these niggas
Doesn't this guy get soloed by any character that's acasual and has any form of matter manipulation resistanceHow did SpaceBattles wank this guy to beating universal+ characters or functionally permanently immortal characters with a magic core he can't even interact with
Spacebattles is a better fanfic site than a powerscaling site
>>151979205>of Draining Kiss significantly cuts the damage of Psychic. For statdrops, Moonblast can also cut Espeon's special attack (or any of the other eeveelutions)The opportunity cost though. Sylveon using Moonblast means it's not healing, while Espeon gets everything it wants with Psychic. Shadow Ball hurts but it's still only around Hyper Voice's damage anyway so it doesn't change that much. Last Resort also needs Sylveon to use it's other 3 moves first.Syvleon really has really bad 4MSS. It wants a bunch of stuff to beat Espeon but it has opportunity cost, while Espeon just needs Psychic. If it gets into a Psychic/Moonblast war it wins because of Morning Sun and the speed advantage, and if it gets into a Psychic/Hyper Voice or Shadow Ball war it heals with Morning Sun and enters a drawn out battle it has an advantage in, and Sylveon also can't copycat Espeon's moves on demand because it's slower, and instead gets whatever Espeon uses that turn.
I felt bad for the Shrike the first time people made fun of it for being le vaguely powerful hax sci-fi guy but now I just want it to get fraudchecked
Some of the shit you people are scaling is literally fanfiction, like Dragon Ball Super
>goku can't job to characters with strong haxes????
>>151979322>stupid mary sue. I want a fraud checkYou can't get one without the other.
>>151979337he can only job to characters with weak hax>aiiieeee is that a laser my defenses weren't up
>>151979282Wait a sec, do you have an account
>>151979337They're arguing for Shrike beating Thrawn and Alternity Optimus, the former who literally doesn't care about timefuckery in the slightest and the latter being a composite Optimus in a universe where Unicron is a literal pet and also AllsparkWhen the opponent completely counters or is apathetic to the big hax it's retarded to push that the guy with one hax still wins anyways
>>151979320To be fair if we're going by more of a DB interpretation Pokemon generally have access to all of their moves, it's how they handled Machamp for instance. Though admittedly that does mean Sylveon would have to wait longer to use Last Resort and would have to use more 'useless' moves first (I also forgot, but Sylveon does have Double Edge, which serves mostly the same function but slightly worse) but this is beginning to assume an absolutely perfect scenario for Espeon where it's shuffled into a 1v1 against Sylveon with nothing else on the battlefield debilitating or interfering with them. For instance, if Glaceon sets up snow, Espeon's healing takes a huge hit. If Vaporeon uses Haze to reset all of their stats, then Psychic loses it's biggest asset in consistently lowering special defense. Umbreon also can't target Espeon first, and so on.I just think Sylveon ultimately has the best means to tough it out to the end because outside of Flareon and possibly Leafeon there's no way it can be taken out quickly or be fucked with in the same way as Espeon or the others.
Goku is so weak he could not even hurt an infant.
Shrike's mind manipulation resistance?Shrike's acid resistance?Shrike touching intangible ghosts?
My hero Goku would never hurt an infant, because he is a HERO!
my hero beats infants for fun
>>151979435>My hero Goku would never hurt an infant, because he is a HERO!Goku sends infants to fight evil bug men (he himself can't defeat) instead, and gives the bug a sensu bean for good measure too!
>>151979454Gohan wasn't an infant at that point
Post Goku lifting a 1 pound weight
>>151979459Miguel took literally zero damage from that
>>151979368Yeah, now that I'm checking the Vs Debating section i found this threadhttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/hope-vs-inevitability-the-shrike-runs-a-gauntlet-against-optimus-prime.1278842/#post-118167497
>>151979477>we have spacebattlesRATS lurking in our halls
>>151979458>Gohan wasn't an infant at that point>"Uh, correction, Gohan was 9 years old, that's different!"
wait why did the thread specifically exclude alternity optimus?
>>151977400why is there a big n word in th—ohit's a wb shitpost
Shrike vs Makima but unironically
Sci-Fi job to Fantasy>B-b-but muh söyence!!Nope. CHADtasy wins.
>Biology: Alternity is a future form of the Transformers which, after 900,000 years, have evolved into celestial beings. Their bodies are made of a higher-dimensional material called Alternium, and they have huge forms that straddle multiple parallel worlds. As a result, it is impossible for terrestrial beings to comprehend the entirety of their appearances. Each individual fuses with his selves of countless parallel worlds to make up a giant, manifold being. The word Alternity, referring to their multi-dimensional nature, has become the name for the entire species.>Abilities: They are able to "reach out their hands" to various time periods and dimensional worlds, and they can use their powers to manipulate reality and duplicate timelines. Furthermore, when taking individual action on the mortal plane, they use Transformer bodies called "Auto-Avatars". Each avatar’s mechanical function is about the same as that of a modern Transformer's, but various high functions have been added through the technology of the Alternity. The Auto-Avatars normally transform into the form of a sports car, which is the most efficient method of transportation for using the super-dimensional locomotion of the Timaeus Drive. How would this do
>>151979501OP in that thread said it would be much more fair
>>151979454>Goku (proud father) sends Gohan (his straight son) who he knows is vastly more powerful than Cell to fight, giving Cell a sensu bean to show just how superior his son is.HERO!
>>151979477Ah
>the shrikebro is the fucking excel posterOh my god hahahahahah
>>151979542LMAOOOOOOOOO
>>151979525They have a rule against "higher-dimension" arguements
>>151979542Oh shit
>>151979476That's because of his vastly superior perfect physical body, as Gojo explains.
>>151979546There's not a rule against it, it just has to be qualified in the source material. Something like Alternity where it's the whole premise of the story and other hard sci-fi stuff which deals with higher dimensions would fly.
>>151979540Then TARDku woke up to Gohan, which Piccolo specified is a child that didn't want to fight, almost getting the world blown up because of Goku's tard actions. False Hero.
>>151979525Don't people want Optimus to fight Superman? How well would this even do?
Everyone posted in this thread is acid fodder>But what abou-Still fodder
>>151979542>IT'S THE FUCKING JENNY WAIFUFAG SELF INSERTER
Max wank Shrike vs max wank Makima. Who wins?
>>151979562Post acid destroying a mountain
>>151979560Alternity Optimus would still lose to max-wank Superman but he'd give a better fight than Goku at least
>>151979560Flop episode
>>151979565Max wank shrike since there's literally nothing Makima can do to stop it from killing her until she runs out of spare japanese civilians to divert her deaths too.
YABBA DABBA DOO I CAN'T WAIT FOR BIG BRO SHRIKE'S BIG TREE OF PAIN COCK TO GIVE MY WAIFU JENNY THE MOST PAINFUL ORGASM OF HER LIFE!
>>151979560>People caring about transformers in the big 2026Lol lmao
>>151979542shrikesisters... it's over....
Doesn't any version of Ultron just mind control/hack and sissify Shrike into his personal fembot bitch and there is literally nothing Shrike can do about it?
>>151979578Shrike would 100% just kill everyone in Japan with time clones
>>151979556Damn luckily im anonymous so nobody knows how bad I am at debatingI would've really made a fool out of myself there haha
>>151979589Post Ultron controlling an acausal entity.
>it was the fucking excel poster all alongHow would these threads handle Uzi vs Jenny?
>>151979589Yeah, and I'm pretty sure Kang (who is way better at time shit than Shrike) jobbed hard to Ultron
>>151979600Given Uzi should probably fucking murder Jenny I expect there to be a lot of N fucking Jenny cuckquean fanfic
>>151979542>>151979573>>151979579>>151979600Hey now I actually just want an arguement for Optimus winning, it's for a future project assuming the motion comic flops
>>151979567>Post acid destroying a mountainpost a mountain destroying acid
>>151979620I mean just use Alternity, it's a higher-dimensional being which is bigger than universes.
>>151979623I AM... Incapable...
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Shriek from Batman beyond vs shocker who wins
>>151979600>>151979613I'd personally cry like a bitch knowing my wife is gonna die to zoomerslop
>>151979400>but this is beginning to assume an absolutely perfect scenario for Espeon where it's shuffled into a 1v1 against Sylveon with nothing else on the battlefield debilitating or interfering with themTbf this actually helps Espeon. In Battle Royales, recovery moves to help weather the initial chaos is king. If it does come down to a 1v1, I think Espeon has the advantage.Thinking about it further, I think I might have realized something...I think every Eeveelutions "ideal scenario" is targetting the mon that counters them first with a few exceptions.>Flareon targets Vaporeon>Vaporeon uses Aqua Veil and then Leafeon or Jolteon>Jolteon gets free choice, BUT it should target Glaceon>Umbreon targets Sylveon or spams Moonlight>Espeon targets Umbreon or spams Morning Sun>Leafeon Swords Dances, then targets Glaceon with Last Resort>Glaceon Hails/Snowscapes, then uses Blizzard>Sylveon gets free choice but wants to use Draining Kiss or Light Screen for recovery, so it targets the lowest Sp Def mons like Leafeon or Jolteon or Umbreon because 2x damageSo, using this line, Flareon and Umbreon get targetted the most. Jolteon is the fastest and can pick and choose so it might take a lot of KOs, while Leafeon may die turn 2 if Glaceon Blizzards. Last Resort only kills Glaceon on a crit so I think Leafeon's out. I assume Blizzard will be hitting everyone.Also worth noting is that Blizzard likely freezes SOMEONE if it's used twice. Glaceon can also Blizzard turn 1 and gamble (70%) that it hits Leafeon and kills it before Hailing to avoid the meaty Last Resort which might seal its fate.Btw, Blizzard also chunks Espeon and Jolteon for 50+%, Sylveon and Umbreon for 40%, Flareon for 30%, and Vaporeon for 20%. Sylveon also can't Light Screen to reduce that first. Jolteon also never 2hkos Glaceon so it probably dies too.So basically Leafeon immediately dies unless it's lucky. I feel like Glaceon nuking everyone really favors Espeon, Umbreon, and Vaporeon.
Give me some scp-3812 matchups that arent dr Manhattan
>all these threads i still don't know what a shrike isill keep it that wayevery time i read shrike i just assume it is a tic, and i find it hilarious
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>>151979632How does he fare against a DC herald
https://g1-team.com/2023/12/11/death-battle-predictions-ultron-vs-brainiac/Did anyone ever post this
>>151979648espeon is a psychic type so it just redirects the others' attacks entirely
>>151979680It was posted when it came out, though I've seen some G1 members say it's a little outdated and the verdict could change
>>151979627Idk higher dimensions feels like a cop-out
>>151979647Am I missing something here? Doesn't Jenny statstomp?
Any time Excel is mentioned I think of Excel Saga first
>>151979696Unfortunately Uzi has calcs of her sitting at planet level and the absolute solver has like universal scaling to a black hole cyn madeMy wife dies here, even if Murder Drones have pencil level anti feats
>>151979699Excel Saga first, Microsoft Excel second
>>151979696>>151979714Oh yeah I also forgot to mention she can just transmute my wife into literal garbage
>>151979676Probably wins only if you buy warp wank
>>151979696I'd say Uzi's feats in the finale are generally >= Jenny's big meteor feat, and she has much faster combat speed.
Over 400 replies later and...Yup. Simon won. DC lost.
>>151979734Cucky DC always loses lol
>>151979688It actually doesn't get Mirror Coat but Glaceon does funnily enough.
Jenny should fight Robotboy, it's a legacy MU and she doesn't deserve to be disrespected by murder troons
>>151979746Oh she already did...IN BED.
Jenny has retarded ftl feats. She speedblitzes uzi in a planck lenght
>>151979746Agreed
>>151979746Ngl if it makes the Excelposter have a melty its worth it
>>151979648The big problem is that even with all of this, assuming the Eeveelutions are going to nuke the field to take out as many opponents as once, then Sylveon can use Hyper Voice to help smash everything that isn't Flareon, which as you've said would likely be taken out quickly by Vaporeon. Jolteon isn't strong enough to instantly kill Vaporeon, either.Not to mention that if the weather is snow, Espeon's Morning Sun gets cut in half and it will die really quickly, and that's only if it immediately begins spamming Morning Sun which it may not think to do (it's high speed may actually work against it here).I think I could agree with Glaceon, Vaporeon, Umbreon and Sylveon being what's left over after the initial round of nukes and early skirmishes. Problem is, Sylveon can succ Umbreon dry to get back to full health and generally has a lot more options against Glaceon and Vaporeon than vice versa. Only way I can see an upset is if Glaceon manages to pull off a Mirror Coat.`
>>151979825New thread
KINGTOS
>>151979060https://youtu.be/GSOIdYWZeh0?t=1900 31:42
>>151979780You're right, but Sylveon going for Hyper Voice puts it in a really shitty position since it's so slow.Umbreon, Espeon and Jolteon all die. Vaporeon, Flareon, Sylveon, and Glaceon will all be what is left.So Glaceon either Blizzards again or Hail/Snowscapes, Flareon targets either Sylveon or Vaporeon, Vaporeon targets Sylveon, and Sylveon then Hyper Voices again.Keep in mind Sylveon is the slowest, and is at 60% if Blizzard hits. Jolteon then likely targets Sylveon because of this since it in order to survive it needs to stop one of those from hitting; Blizzard has a 70% so I think its best odds are Thunderbolting Sylveon for a para, since Blizzard has a higher chance of failing on its own.So now Sylveon could be at 20-30% hp from Jolteon trying to get lucky + getting hit by Blizzard. Vaporeon and Flareon very likely will be hitting it next turn, and it's the slowest so it ends up dying. I really don't think Hyper Voicing is its best bet but that absolutely fucks over Espeon, Umbreon, and Jolteon; that possibility may cause all three of those to attack, since it's slower than Glaceon and will be the easiest to kill since it'll take 40% chip. If Espeon and Jolteon both try and live by killing Sylveon (easier than killing Glaceon due to aformentioned Blizzard chip), then it may not matter what Sylveon does because it's so slow.This is assuming they all have knowledge of the best option of course...
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