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>Haha see we admit South Park sucks now! Look at how meta we are!
>...why aren't we getting as many views?
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It comes off as pathetic instead as of self aware and relatable
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>>151983739
Pretty much. It's like that kid at school who makes self-depreciating jokes and expects everyone to laugh.
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>>151983748
Except that kid is being laughed at and not with
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This strategy only works if the show doesnt actually suck.
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>>151983763
In the finale, Towelie calls what's going on an intricately woven tapestry of ideas. He says this while high.
Even they know their writing is shit
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>>151983674
when they do a "boys being boys" episode they're still gold. They're getting to that age where they don't particularly give a shit about politics or cultural events anymore, but because that's what the show always did, they feel like they need to keep doing that. I

f they just did the original idea of "R rated Peanuts" it'd be great again.
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>>151983674
>Simpsons did it!
and I mean by Simpsons are also self-aware that they sucked, yet this also doesn't change the fact that they haven't been good in forever.
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>>151983875
If they removed politics completely from the show it would thrive
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Check out North Park. Infinitely more soulful than the show that it spun off from
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/North_Park_Creations_Wiki
>>151983876
Same. They joke about Kenny barely doing shit multiple times, yet do fuck all to fix it.
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>>151983891
I hate how they say kids being kids episodes are the best, but why not do it more? No one's holding a gun to your head and saying you can't
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>>151983910
Trey's still THE main creative driver, the writers room essentially just pitches him ideas. If he gave up the reigns a little, they'd likely do it. Especially since with the new release schedule the infamous six days production cycle isn't as important anymore
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>>151983962
Honestly, he should give it up. They're getting old and senile and it shows
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>>151983739
It is pathetic. The meta commentary feels like they're trying to cover their asses rather than fix things
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Just move to North Park lol
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/North_Park_Creations_Wiki
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>>151983875
Then went 1000% on trump because that's what the network paid them 1.5 billion dollars to do.
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>>151984419
yeah they should be BASED and show our tremendous, patriotic 45th President as the cool badass he actually is
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>>151984436
Maybe artist should be allowed to be independent and not mouth pieces for the highest buyer clearly their art suffered
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>>151984489
>Maybe artist should be allowed to be independent
unless of course they ridicule conservatives at which point you can clearly tell their heart wasn't actually into it. not like that time before he was elected and they portrayed him as a Canadian they raped to death.
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>>151984436
How about not showing Trump period? They always swear up and down they're sick of parodying Trump, but keep on coming back to it.
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>>151983910
>>151984325
nope and the more you post the link the more i don’t want to, especially since i already don’t care about gay fan wikis
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>>151984529
Well, it's higher quality than South Park right now
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>>151983910
The people who made it were still young and had humour and imagination. However only 7 of them stuck around, the other 23 did not care to take care of their characters and left after day 1. Trey did not give a fuck about Kenny cause he wasn't Matt and part of the main friend group he had in childhood.
Trey would have to hire somebody who can care about someone else's characters and not hold a grudge over other people's characters unlike some immature manchild autists I know of.
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>>151984674
Whatever, North Park is more soulful than South Park, anyway
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What was Trey thinking when he made Butters the 4th character instead of just taking Kenny's hood off and making him an actual character? Does the real Kenny have to pop up in Trey's face for Trey to give respect to his own character?
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>>151985021
That's never gonna happen. They'll do what they always do. Make Kenny a glorified prop only to make meta comments about how he's a glorified prop only to do fuck all to fix it.
I honestly think they should just kill him permanently
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Kenny should fart
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>>151983739
Just like OP
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>>151984419
>South Park viewers shocked life long libertarians hate Trump.
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>>151985694
OP is nowhere near as pathetic as the writers of this show
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>>151983674
Surprisingly, I think this season might age the worst of any of them. I know South Park's always been topical (to the point some older episodes get confusing unless you look up the references) but they always picked topic's that were of actual importance at the time and are remembered as historically significant.

In ten years, will anyone remember shit like the east wing renovation, Jimmy Kimmel getting taken off the air for a week, or even the tariff negotiations that lasted a few months at best? Will any of this look like biting satire on relevant issues, or will it look more like a pair of old men grasping at straws to try to insult another old man they have a hate crush on?
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>>151983674
Complete fucking cowards for not going after Hasan.
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Paper puppet animation used to be a legitimate art form, with even the first animated film El Apóstol even making use of the format, but then two stoner retard boomers just had to come in and ruin its legitimacy forever with their shit political preaching.
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>>151985021
Butters is funnier than Kenny, that's why.
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>>151985943
They'll see it as the former because these people are infested with TDS
>>151986123
Kenny is a glorified prop because they don't have any ideas with him
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>>151986117
They need to rewatch the first 3 seasons that they hate so much to realize how South Park used to be better
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>>151983674
>...why aren't we getting as many views?
What zoomer wrote this trite
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>>151987386
What's the problem with that line?
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>>151985943
The fucking bronies have more historical significance than Trey's randomly picking Labubus. What was up with him refusing to do an episode on that and on the animation and comic book industry in general? The MLP phenomena didn't start just because of /co/, it started because Amid Amidi was fucking 120% correct about veterans kneeling to disgusting corporations like Hasbro and not even getting what they want(Faust wanted her own toyline of the Galaxy Girls and they said fuck you, you're doing an IP we already own) and then they promptly fired her after just 1 season. There was a lot more drama and shit going on behind the scenes and in general for both animation, comic books and the video game industry as a whole than even the mascot/furry fandom. Trey is a retard that doesn't give a shit about art and when he made episodes about Pokemon & WoW he still didn't get it. Also for some retarded reason he never did an episode about K-Pop singers mind controlling little girls yet did one on Disney & The Jonas Brothers. Did they ever did one on rap music influencing and dumbing down people?
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>>151987608
Matt and Trey are out of touch, they are not subtle about this
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North Park should be an actual show
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>>151988489
I've been a writefag around there for about 2 months
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>>151983875
They could have Dogpoo, Red, and other kids stand in well for the other R-Rated Peanuts folks.
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>>151989096
I remember people saying Butters and Red was like Charlie Brown and the red-haired girl
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>>151985021
Tratt hated Kenny at the time and Matt said he was just a prop and sick of voicing him. Comedy Central made them quickly reverse course though, instead of having him dead "for good" or just a whole season. Otherwise, we would've had Tweek formally written out for more 4th friends to take his place and them rotate.

And had it not been Kenny, they would've merked Kyle.
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>>151989123
And after his revival, they give him stuff to do but he still feels like a prop. They even lampshade it several times. Stan even says "Kenny hasn't said anything in 4 months." or something. Either make an effort to make Kenny more relevant or kill him off permanently.
Also, North Park has the same rotating 4th kid gimmick
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>>151989323
If only they utilized Mysterion more as his fun alter-ego
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>>151989356
They should expand Kenny outside being Mysterion.
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>>151985021
>instead of just taking Kenny's hood off and making him an actual character?
I can just picture it.
>Bus stop
>Kenny: "Hey, guys."
>Kyle: "...Hey, Kenny."
>Stan: "...What's with the hood, dude?"
>Kenny: "Huh?"
>Cartman: "Your hood, dude. You're not wearing it."
>Kenny: "Oh. Just didn't feel like it today."
>Stan/Kyle/Cartman: "...Huh."
>Long awkward pause
>Something plot relevant happens
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>>151989558
That's perfect
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>>151985021
>>151989558
While It would be fun. Hoodless Kenny has a separate voice actor to the other three boys and would make recording a lot longer.
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>>151990067
Plus, it forces them to not treat Kenny like a prop. Apparently, the muffled voice stops Kenny from being a full-fledged character
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>...why aren't we getting as many views?
They aren't asking that, they haven't given a shit since You're Getting Old. They preferred doing Book of Mormon and Stick of Truth. When they were doing Stick of Truth, the writing of the show declined, presumably because they were leaving more of the writing to shitty staff writers. I don't really believe they ever fully came back, whatever changed in the writing room when they were spending less time there is presumably still in place, judging by the quality failing to recover at all. Maybe they did go back, but their hearts evidently haven't been in it in the same way. They're not gonna just jump off their cash cow because they're bored of it, but it's not what they give a shit about anymore.
I know this sounds like apologia presenting Matt and Trey as great writing talents and the show's failings are solely down to their supposed absence, but my point is not that they're good but that there was a ruinous transition in staff or processes etc.
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>>151984419
I thought it was the opposite? They signed them on for a bunch of money but dragged everything through court, pissing off Matt and Trey, so when it came to finally releasing the new season they made fun of Trump as much as possible to get the company in trouble since Trump could crush their ongoing merger.
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>Replaces the boys with Randy, Trump, JD Vance, Satan and Brendan Carr
>Gets mad when nobody likes South Park anymore
>Makes more Trump episodes to ''own'' the chuds
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South Park has always been political you faggots
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The only way to rectify this is to reveal the entire season was AI generated by some bored aliens that was trying this AI program thingy



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