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Does anyone feel like the X-men has become a nostalgia brand now? Like they don't want to anything new with it.
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>>151984193
They've done plenty of new stuff with it. The new stuff just kinda sucks.
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>>151984193
>>151984236

Serious question: what new stuff can be done with the X-Men?

After both Grant's New X-Men AND Krakoa, what other points have yet to be made with the mutant parable?

Certain characters like Superman and F4 can sorta exist in the "timeless" vibe and have fun "silver age/throwback" adventures

But X-men - especially post Claremont - has been so connected with the metaphor of "current" society.

McKay's Adjectiveless and Simone's Uncanny are actually decently fun books but are suffocated underneath Brevoort's editorial and Marvel's corporate greed needing to have a "line of X books"

It's the glut of solos and spinoffs that really hurt the concept of the X men. "X Force" is the only way that seems to have legs and even that needs more breathers in between volumes.

Story potential wise, there's enough there for a two book "Blue/Gold" "Xavier/Magneto" split, one book for each leader's philosophy. Marvel won't do this but the "X line" should constrict to just those two books , tell some solid "good mutants vs bad mutants" stories for a season or two until they can find a creative spark that wants to say something refreshing.

* I haven't even addressed Peach's "Ultimate X Men" which is proof that you need a radically dramatic reinvention like that to capture lapsed/casual interest in the X Men premise because Marvel has exhausted it so much.
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>>151984673
I liked it when they attempted to go back into the school setting and have the bigger legacy characters as teachers or fucking off to do their own stuff. You need new mutants if you want to sell the future of the X-Men or else it'll be smothered by its own popularity.
Having Jean and the rest go somewhere else while having weaker characters stick around lets you play with stakes without everything being some world ending event. That's how you get moments like God Loves, Man Kills. Let the X-Men be relatable again
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>>151984193
Give me a reading list covering Claremont's X-Men and X-Factor, I hear that's when they were at their peak
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>>151984193
Because the only reason anyone likes them is because of nostalgia and they are not relatable anymore
>Cyclops is ruined beyond repair
>Storm is a goddess girlboss
>Jean is another boring cosmic girlboss
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>>151984966
i wish the classic characters were dispersed among other Marvel books

Storm on the Avengers is actually an ok idea.

Probably wouldn't sell past 10 issues but Angel bankrolling a new Defenders lineup with Beast and Iceman would be comfy
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>>151985016
Claremont's runs on Uncanny, New Mutants and Excalibur (then Alan Davis solo on Excalibur)
PAD's X Factor (both volumes)
Morrison's New X Men
Milligan/Allred X Force/X Statix
Hine's District X
Yost & Kyle's Academy X, and then their X Force
Remender's Uncanny X Force
Mike Carey's Adjectiveless/X Men Legacy
The Zeb Wells - DnA runs on 2010s New Mutants
Spurrier's X Men Legacy (and his X Force)
and the Whedon/Ellis Astonishing

and use AvX as your jumping off point
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>>151987363
I remember reading through old Champions issues and thinking it was fun to see him and Bobby struggling with this new team. I miss some of that era's more relaxed tones. I miss the morlocks too
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>>151984193
>now
nigger it’s been on loop for the last 30 years
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>>151984193
I could come up with a buncha new mutants and ideas to fix the setting, lore, and introduce a buncha new shit. But alas, Marvel is cucked.
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No. Last show was XatW. This one was nostalgia riddled because we live in the era of nostalgia bait and unnecessary sequels/remakes. Anyway I give it a pass with the x-men because they always look like shit when they deviate too far from their 90s outfits.



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