so are all these dead again?
>>152008541How long before we have a plucky group of young adults and teens who will become the "Xavier wanted peace" squad who openly hates the Krakoa mutants? And how long before the xmen are revealed to all be clones created by krakoa?
All the mutants nobody wanted to write were written out into the white hot room where they'll enjoy paradise for eternity.
>>152008553Never, cause writers hate making their readers happy outside of twitter.>>152008917Until the next writer kills them off to up the stakes. Again.
>>152008553Why would any X-Men writer do this? The modern fanbase absolutely loves Krakoa, unironically, and the writers are more than happy to pander only to those tards.
>>152008955>The modern fanbasethats like 15 people
>>152008541How many of them moved to Mars to join Arakko?How many moved permanently to the White Hot Room?
>>15200896315 people who are still buying comics vs. a few hundred-thousand that aren’t…The writers are too stupid to comprehend how to take advantage of this, so they’re just going to keep pandering to the 15 fans in existence to make ends meet.
>>152008541>I BROUGHT THEM BACK>I KILLED THEM >I BROUGHT THEM BACK>I KILLED THEM>RABBIT SEASON>DUCK SEASON>RABBIT SEASON>DUCK SEASON
>>152008541I hope so.
>Muh 15 gorillion Mutants really are Israel coded
Is Kirby X-Men good or is better to jump straight into Claremont's era?
Is it ever stated in Morrison's run that Genosha was like 90% of mutants? The characters sure don't act like it and it goes against his proposed new setting (aping the movies).
>>152011370Skip to Giant Sized X-Men #1, yes. If you want to go back later you can, but you don't have to. Google a reading order if you really care. I had a fun time going through some of the adventures the old members went to like Avengers with Beast or The Champions, but if you don't want to mess around too much? Stick to Claremont and peace out when it's done. Whether you continue after 1991 or not is up to you
>>152009113and they wonder why no one has read their slop for 25 years....
>>152008541Thats some truly hideous art.
>>152011370The Claremont era of x-men is one of the most overrated pieces of media in the history of American media and that it continues to bog down the franchise every other reboot/relaunch is a major bane to it’ continues existence. 40 year old plot points being picked up on while trying to appeal to twitter kids who don’t even feel like reading that shit for free on RCO
>>152012110Which X-Men run(s), if any, do you like?
>>152012131Frankly? None, really. That being said krakoa was the worst, even more so than the Rosenberg abortion just before it. Whedon despite the incessant reeing by casuals trying to fit in after starting to read comics post-MCU is entertaining enough.
>>152008541wait, now they were all children on the island of genosha run by supervillains? really not helping the cause there emma
>>152011370Kirby X-men is okay. Fans will tell you that it's not "real X-men", but imo that just makes it mean you either get to appreciate how much more Claremont changed up the formula or at worst just deal with standard golden age superhero antics. It's not like you lose anything going with the older comics, and frankly it helps put so much of what's weird about the modern era of X-men and their relationship with humanity into a far more proper context.
>>152012197>>152012110
>>152011370Kirby X-Men is very repetitive, they keep fighting Magneto and his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants over and over again like an old cartoon. It picked up a bit at the end when he did Juggernaut and the Sentinels but then he was out of there.
>>152012197>doesn't like X-Men at all>responding to someone who asks for X-Men recommendations
>>152012323>>152012296>give an honest opinion >YOU CANT DO THAT PARROT THE NONSENSE! DO NOT THINK JUST PARROT
>>152012197>Whedon despite the incessant reeing by casuals trying to fit in after starting to read comics post-MCU is entertaining enough.no, noWhedon is readable, it has a defined story which progresses to a conclusion, but it's not really good or entertaining any more than reading the Cheerios box is for the thousandth time, you're not getting anything new, the thrill of the first time is gone unless that was your first time and it doesn't create in the way that, say, Dark Phoenix created changes to the story and characters until retcons fucked that upthe problem with Krakoa and pretty much every X-Men story for the past 25 years is that they rely on massive amounts of often quite obscure or originally differently-framed lore to understand why things are the way they are; it's not that nobody's doing Claremont-style infodumps about themselves on every page any more, it's that the stories themselves are some kind of ADD fever dream collab fanfic constantly skipping around, contradicting itself and rewriting even very recent instalments because of petty rivalries and the occasional understanding from a writer that what has just happened is fucking dire and needs to be undone or at least qualified so it makes sense to someone who isn't an illiterate crackhead out for revenge on the people who learned to read at a grade school levelimagine an AO3 where the stories are all somehow, torturously, interlinked and the normalcy has diminished over time to the point that the majority of them are POV rape porn and the rest are revenge-on-rapists porn and some magnificently stupid idiots on deviantart started illustrating it with QUALITYby comparison to that? yeah Whedon is readable, but what do you expect from a guy who actually wrote things people cared about for a living?that's X-Men from the late 1990s to today
>>152012384It sounds more like you should have said “I agree” rather than “no, no”
>>152012631no, noWhedon isn't entertaining at all, it's just not literal anti-writing created by people who couldn't fill out a loan application without trying to outrage anybody who reads it
>>152012671I mean it was entertaining, you’re just seemingly extremely autistic.
>>152013730>>152012671That being said I should say I understand what you’re saying about anti-writing and agree much of modern comics suffers from these deluded fucks.
>>152012671i agree
>>152012033I liked the Neal Adams stint for the art.>>152012110Right there with you. Claremont-Men didn't click with me until Paul Smith joined the game (1982), but he left soon after.The Cockrum-Byrne-Cockrum section is pretty awful, and it has the most acclaim.>>152012260>you either get to appreciate how much more Claremont changed up the formula or at worst just deal with standard golden age superhero anticsNeither of these are worthwhile things.>It's not like you lose anything going with the older comicsYou lose time, patience, and willpower. The quickest way to fall out of love with comic books is to be reading shit that you don't like just because people said it's important.
>>152015078>You lose time, patience, and willpowerFrom a frigging comic book? Geeze, how fragile zoomie zooms are these days.>The quickest way to fall out of love with comic books is to be reading shit that you don't like just because people said it's importantGood thing I didn't say it was then, you drama queen
>>152015507>From a frigging comic book? Geeze, how fragile zoomie zooms are these days.Nothing to do with fragility. It's about wasting time, patience, and willpower on shit comics.>Good thing I didn't say it was then, you drama queenIf you're not implying it, then that's even worse. You're recommending for people to read something with no worthwhile qualities. Why?
>>152011943>aping the moviesOther way around, Singer used his earlier proposals
>>152012086Looks great, especially compared to the tranime slop a lot of trannies here obsess over. Maybe Emma should have eyes that take up 80% of her face while a single giant bead of sweat suspends in the air, right?
>>152008541>Gotham is always going to be shithole>Peter Parker is always going to get cucked by life.>X-men are always going to be oppressedEven for American Comics status quo, mutants are fucking boring. Like they literally had the Mutant Garden of Eden and they decided to be degenerate retarded faggots.
>>152016249Youre joking right? First off I don’t give a fuck about jap shit but secondly Emma and Jean legit look like dudes in drag, this has to be bait.
>>152016386Emma's probably like 50 years old at this point
>>152008973Isn't it weird how the old mutants are always like, "There are so few mutants! There need to be more mutants!" and some macguffin makes more mutants appear out of the aether, but the shitload of new mutants invariably get sick of the old mutants' shit so they all go to like different dimensions or planets or whatever and then the old mutants are all like, "There are so few mutants! There need to be more mutants!"I wish Nimrod would kill all of them except the girl that poops ice cream.
>>152016386It's definitely bait. No one has taste that bad.
Nobody hates the X-Men more than X-Men fans
>>152017744No, you mean the X-men offices. They hate them more then anyone on earth.
>>152008541For now maybe
>>152016148Cause I enjoyed reading it, and read through it in like less than a hour. So I lost nothing. You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing to this thread but throwing tantrums at the mere suggestion of people to give comic books a try.
>>152016263It honestly proved to me that the X-men are their own biggest enemies, even more than the racist rednecks and robots. You get four years to make the perfect society, and you spend most of it pissing off your friends and future allies. Really says something about the writing office there.
>>152008541Wait, weren't the Genoshan dead's souls and genetic material sent back in time to be resurrected as the Threshold civilization?
>>152016698Isn't it weird how the mutants took over time and space with their reality altering powers and the dimensions/timelines they made trying to improve things for mutants actually turned out worse. But don't worry, the Celestials AND the space bird god are on their side! It's meant to be! Any time now!
>>152019334Yeah. And then they did it again in the White Hot Room cause why the fuck not?
Genosha remains forevermore the most retarded fucking thing to ever happen in the series.
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>>152008541Faceless niggas
>>152019549a very bold claim given the series we’re talking aboutwhat makes you so confident in such a statement?
>>152008936LolThey need to elarn new tricks
>>152009113underated joke
I don't think I'd be racist to mutants, if anything they'd be a boon to any racial cause.
>>152021234I'm racist to mutants now, imagine if i live there
>>152008541Yes.Dead to me.
>>152019268You're a liar.>You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing to this thread I've called you out for trying to trick people into reading slogs. That's contributing.
>>152023675No one should read a comic because it's "important" but they should read them because they're entertaining. A lot of people found and continue to find Claremont's X-Men entertaining. No harm in giving them a try. No one should read a dozen or more issues if they don't like it, that's a year's worth of comics, no one was buying a particular comic they didn't like for a straight year hoping it would get good.
