You guys ever read the books or watched the animated films? Well, here's a thread to discuss your favorites.
I'll start by posting about the Soviet-era films just because I am quite fond of the art. The combination of paper puppets and cel animation is always super cool to see and I hate that not many cartoons take advantage of such a style.
Thought I'd also show what the cel-animated bits look like: from my own analysis, cels are employed when characters are required to do more complicated tasks that cannot be done with just paper cutouts (for time and economic reasons). In Through the Looking Glass, it generally looks alright, but Wonderland's cels are just so damn funny.
>>152011285Why you always have to use that ugly design instead of the better and most recognizable designed one?
>>152011441NTA, but Soviet Alice is really distinct compared to the other ones.
>>152011441Because I like this design. The intentional plain-ness of this brunette Alice makes her stand out in a sea of copy-paste Disney-esque blonde Alices in blue dresses.>>152011463Pretty much what this guy said.
So…you guys like reading?
>>152011285Yeah this one puts me to sleep, helps that i don't know russian, however alice seems pretty sweet, so i like herbut they draw her kinda ugly (sometimes)
>>152011441he must have autism
>Black haired AliceProfane
>>152012654The real Alice Liddell had dark hair.
Read an annotated version a while back. All of the math jokes went completely over my head until they were explained to me.
>>152011285I read both some time ago and tried to a reread lately. I was trying to piece together what made this story so popular even with modern audiences (although modern audiences don't read...). There's an interesting part where Alice tries to recite a poem but all the words get mixed up. This goes over the heads of a modern audience but as it was, the actual poem would have been very well known by kids who often recited it in class and they would have understood what Alice was getting wrong. And I thought, what would a modern equivalent look like because most of the jokes in the story are very contextual?
>>152013508>well known poem, but the words are altered and rearranged in a way that’s meant to be recognized and understood as a jokeHonestly just sounds like a basic meme.
>>152012608>i like her but they draw her kinda uglyHow could you say such a scandalous thing?
>>152013508>what would a modern equivalent look likeProbably Alice fucking up whatever the British version of the Pledge of Allegiance is.
Can you photograph her naked, like the original?
>>152014965An anonymous man did that already with Alisa, but she's in her 20's in the drawing.And a bit chubby.
>>152013218There were math jokes?
>>152015572Yeah, Lewis Carrol was a mathematician and really loved math. One of the few jokes that I remember is Alice saying “But you can’t take something from nothing!” And apparently that was Carrol making a commentary on the concept of negative numbers.
>>152011775I don't know if plain is the right word for her.
>>152015782I'm using the language of G. Umansky, one of the art directors of the film when he gave an interview on why Alice was designed the way she was. So get this: according to what I recall reading, Alice was initially intended by the Soviets to look as we in the West know her as (blonde hair, blue eyes, very pretty). However, the artists at Kievnauchfilm (the same studio behind the Treasure Island adaptation we all know) instead made her look "plain" because they felt it would be weird to have a very pretty girl as Alice and because they hated the ideas brought by the ruling party.Simply put: Soviet Alice is a symbol of defiance against communist oppression.
>>152015693If you ask me, the annotators are the ones trying to make something out of nothing.
Posting a different Alice just for some variety.
Would.
>>152012956This. Only true Alice fans could recognize the genius of Soviet Alice.
>>152011285Hello Fygoon. What I find interesting is that this book has so many adaptations. We can see what your favorite is, but do you have a least favorite?
>>152017715Hey Frosch, long time no see. I can't really say. I only ever saw the Soviet and Disney cartoons and read the original books. They are all fine in their own right.
>>152016383American McGee's Alice: was it a good adaptation or merely id Software guys shitting on Lewis Carroll's books as they did with H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos?
