"Gotta have my Batman" is more respectable than "Gotta have my Spider-Man"There is ALWAYS at lease *one* decent Batman book on the stands every month. Whether its an ongoing, anthology, prestige mini, elseworlds, black label, etc. You CANNOT say the same thing about Spider Man anymoreThe same goes for their "family" books. There's always at least one decent satellite Batman book compared to Spidey.Marvel really killed their golden goose.
>>152013591And let's be honest, Batman does not sell no matter what. The latest movie didn't bring in that much money while Iron Boy is despite being trash and being the third reboot in 20 years.Main Batman title was not a huge seller in the early 00s when they didn't give a shit about putting a big name on it and the Tom King run actually bled readers until he was kicked off early. Meanwhile Spider-man always sells despite the fact that everyone has been hate reading for 20 years.
Batman wants to fuck The Joker.
>>152014282many are saying this
>>152013591Batman has better comics.
>>152013591No Batman's in just as bad if not worse a spot as Spider-man. No them both having popular alternate universe stories doesn't make them good.
>>152015831B&R: Year One and Dark Patterns were both good. PKJ's ongoing B&R is/was decent. The first issue of the Black Label team up with Question and Green Arrow was dope. And there's been fun side projects over the last year like Full Moon and Silent Knight.What has Spider Man had?
>>152013591As a kid, I read Spider-Man comics and thought he was cooler as a design and power set and personality so he was my favorite even though I preferred how Batman was darker, had good movies, and the better cartoon These days, Spider-Man has nothing going for him other than his design. He's still my favorite "pure good" character because of nostalgia but God damn all his media has sucked dick for like over a decade, his character has been assassinated, his villains all turned into jokes, it fucking sucks. For a while I could say "well at least I have Venom again" but that turned out to be the biggest monkey paw of all soon as the Knull shit started and has just gotten even more overblown and far removed from the original vision than it even was during Bemdis' bullshit GOTG Klyntar garbage
>>152013591That comic is almost good but ruined by batwank>Batman beats Carnage, because....his detective skills tell him serial killers are afraid inside, and magically now fear makes the symbiote leave the host just in time for Batman's realization and to kick his ass out of it, even though by this point Carnage has taken over the Silver Surfer, his symbiote basically replaced his blood and can resurrect him from the dead, etc levels of nonsense alien power
God, will you all just shut the fuck up? Find some other character to meme on. I've been having to tolerate you faggots and your constant trolling and shit-talk for 4 fucking years. I'm sick of it. If you think Spider-Man and his comics are shit, you're a worthless retard who knows nothing about good writing or comics general and should kill yourself. You're literally too dumb to understand or enjoy a character as simple as fucking Spider-Man lmao
>>152016672Spider-Man comics stopped being good in the 00s, and became a toilet in the 2010s. You think "good Spider-Man comics" are Peter being a pathetic unwilling cuck, having his villains all turned into SOL gag characters, and his own role being replaced by an entire Power Rangers team of culture club Spider people? You're just an idiot then
>>152016790I wasn't talking about any specific eras, you drama-hungry retard. I was speaking generally.
>>152015804also better villains
>>152017053Notice how OP said "killed". This implies that they're saying Spider-Man has fallen, maybe try reading the thread before you have a histrionic tantrum
>>152016672Is that supposed to be miles
>>152017659No...
>>152016672It's funny that Peter attracts some of the most mentally ill posters on /co/. The fans? Yes they can be toxic. It's 4chan, it's comics discussion, any fandom will obviously be a toxic circlejerk. However, they can still post funny things and give some insightful opinions. But the haters? Oh god, it's awful. Some arguments are hilarious>no good runs >his comics and villains suck>a shallow soap opera character, no real development, made just for self inserting faggotsIt's obvious that they don't actually read comics, or for some reason they only stick to modern ones. Which makes this thread ironic because I can't believe that someone says that Batman has decent books. No fag lol, everything now is mediocre or irredemable trash. The stereotype people have about how dumb comics are is absolutely true today. Dear OP, something being better doesn't implies that it's decent. Oh and I'm just complaining about the fags that still have some neurons left. We also have the european waifufag and spammers that probably have a personal vendetta against Spider-Man. Or the retards that can only get hard when they're trolling
>>152017811Batman isn't being cucked though and Two Face hasn't been turned into comic relief
>>152017811I want to put at least some of the blame on the mods.Sure, Spider-Man threads were not all sunshines and rainbows. OMD embittered people and the further fandom divide because of Miles and SpOck made things worse, but it was still civil on-topic discussion, by the standards of being a discussion on 4chan at any rate.Now you have retards literally breaking numerous rules, but Heaven forbid you say "nigger". Hell, I've had bans that I still don't understand the reasoning of, like getting banned for "non-western discussion on /co/" (would love to see fags hit with that in East vs West shitpost threads, oh right.) for discussing the plot of Spider-Man 2, but apparently numerous schizos and trolls making threads unusable and literally breaking several rules day after day is fine.
>>152017906>Saying Batman is better than Spider-Man is breaking rules No it isn't
>>152017873So? Do you really believe that I'm not aware of everything? Do you really think that the statements "Batman is better than Spider-Man" or "Spider-Man is the worst hero" are controversial? Hey, I say this as a Spiderfag, Spider-Man<<<<<<<<< every other comics character, if we only talk about the last two decades. Thinking that your favorite character being better than Peter automatically makes their comics worth reading is the gayest opinion I've seen today>>152017906>Now you have retards literally breaking numerous rules, but Heaven forbid you say "nigger".I was talking about this the other day, how everyone fellates 4chan because you can post any opinion you have, yay! But it shouldn't be that way. Mods should delete more posts and ban topics that are blatant ragebait, and on top of that do more public posts. But of course, the mouth breathing abortion that replied to me in the thread where I posted that told me that I was a snowflake that wanted politically correct discussion.
>>152017985No, the purpose of 4chan was to be free of moderation save for the illegal. All forms of bullying and contrarian opinions should be welcomed, and free to be argued with. If you don't think so, you weren't here I'm the few golden years of the 00s and you literally just want a normal message board with safe space rules, so go to reddit, twitter, fb, discord etc.
>>152013591Neither of em have had a good canon run in a long time, like at least 16-20 years now. I think a lot of it comes down to preference honestly, like 70s Batman books by Dennis o Neil and Neil Adam’s are pretty good and so are his 80s books with Alan Grant, Marv Wolfman, and Jim Starlin runs. I’ll always have a soft spot for the back to back Lee/Ditko/Romita Sr arcs in the 60s/70s, their emotional, have heart and sincerity, and no other spider run has really influenced the other like those have at least imho, I prefer this era of Spidey over Bats, I do think his 80s runs are pretty decent with Roger Stern being the main great highlight for me personally with Tom Defalco following suit, but he also had the Web of Spider Man run which also had some great stuff in it, for this era I would probably prefer Batman, he was going through way more harsh things like losing Batgirl and Robin and Marv Wolvman run helped flesh those things out with Tim Drake and stuff, it just hits harder for me I guess and Year One is some seriously fantastic stuff. I’m ngl, I’m not too familiar with their 90s/00s stuff, for this era I’d probably have to go Batman since at least Knightfall was really good and Robin had a decent ongoing, Spider Man was going through some seriously weird shit with the Clone Saga and Ben Reilly and personally I’ve never been *that* much of a fan of the Michelinie era but I get the nostalgia, but still not bad compared to what came after, at worst with Batman No Man’s Land is just “mid” and not offensively weird or bad, this was kind of the beginning of the end right here for both characters anyway though, I prefer Batman but I love both a lot, only other characters I’ve read nearly as much is just Superman and Thor
>>152018014Good for you, but please don't call yourself an oldfag, or think this >you weren't here I'm the few golden years of the 00if you started to post here after 2007, remember that!>All forms of bullying and contrarian opinions should be welcomed, and free to be argued withAbsolutely, that's why 4chan has no rules. And I also forgot that I can't report posts because they're "extremely low quality" or how every single board is literally /b/. Damn, somehow I also forgot that /b/ only has one rule, or how everyone is allowed to post ponies in any board. This is so gay, fucking hell. Please post it again but only if I wanted normalfag opinions, and their relevance being affected by its score system. Everyone complains about the poison here, you're not special because you want to willingly drink it>>152018041See? This is a beautiful post. An opinion coming from someone who reads and enjoys good comics, not the modern runs. This anon prefers Batman, and considering those arguments, it's an opinion I can respect BTW I think that PAD is underrated. Everyone talks about Stern but PAD's run is also very good
>>152018109The only poison here is thin skinned faggots who cry when people say things they don't like. 4chan was for edgelords, cope
>>152017065If his villains are better then why don't they ever get used in favour of just shoving Joker down everyone's throat, at least Spider-Man villains besides Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus actually get used meaningfully by writers.
