Did Peter betray his life motto when he sold his marriage?
>>152021166Peter is not a real human being with real agency. He is a fictional character who acts at the whim of the writer and editor.
>>152021166He's been fucking Aunt May before he married Mary Jane so no.
>>152021177Did the writer contradict the basic premise of the character when he made it sell its marriage?
>>152021166You could argue that he was taking it to a dogmatic degree. One More Day beats him over the head with the idea that he should accept that Aunt May is going to die, but he disregards all of that the second it's within his power to save her. Even if he has to sacrifice what's most important to him, since it's within his power, he's compelled to act. He's unable to say "no, this is a line I won't cross for my ideal".
>>152021278The One Above Fucking All told Peter not to make a deal with Mephisto. Fucking God told him that making a deal with the Devil was a bad idea and he still did it. There's no such thing as Parker Luck, just Parker Stupidity.
Aunt May has that good pussy.
>>152021166>>152021193Yes & they should have walked it back immediately instead of letting it fester as the status quo to this day.
>>152021352Fuck, it's Mephisto, he already screwed someone who made a deal with him to save a loved one's life, why wouldn't he do it again?
>>152021362Everyone ignores Ghost Rider.
>>152021323I prefer "web on, brain off", but, yeah. You could have Uncle Ben claw his way out of the grave, explicitly tell Pete that May will go the heaven and be with him until she gets revived by another contrivance, and he'd still trip over himself to make the deal.
>>152021177This is nothing more than a way of avoiding the question. You know what he is asking.
>>152021417>Worst fuckin' deal I ever made.
>>152021452Uncle Ben needs to stay dead, gwen needs to stay dead, aunt may needs to stay dead. If they are going to bring everyone back why dont they bring back jean de wolf
>>152021166No because he put Aunt May's life above his marriage to Mary Whore
>>152021488Not Aunt May. She has that good pussy.
>>152021495very funny
>>152021278Didn’t he sacrifice his unborn daughter’s soul? That’s just giving up one life for another
>>152021452Honestly, I think Peter might just be a masochist. It's not even about Uncle Ben anymore, he just gets off on his own suffering.
>>152021193Yes many times.
>>152021495kill your self
Aunt May has had all that sexual experience from the 1910s up until now. How can Mary Jane compete with that for Peter?
>>152021483You can also imagine Peter's thought process went something like this>That Moon Knight guy warned me about something like this. But he's crazy so what does he know...
>>152021549Nah, it went something like this.>Durr... me wan more wheatcakes! Dey go well with all da lead paint me been drinking! Durr durr!
>>152021166Honestly this is so overblown from fans who hate this. This is pretty much in character for him, hes the stupid idiot everyman character. Hes supposed to be far from the squeaky clean superhero mold like Cap, Superman and Billy Batson. And even as a adult, he still acts like a cocky douchey frat boy and total dorky goofball. Spidey makes choices that dont make sense to anyone but him and thinks inside his own heart to do what's right, hes kinda like Goku in a sense.
>>152021488>If they are going to bring everyone back why dont they bring back jean de wolfThen her and Pete finally hook up
>>152021574Says the anon who only reads post OMD? Sorry dipshit, no one is falling for your bullshit.
>>152021574Terrible read of a character and it only makes sense if the only material you've ever read of him was post-OMD
>>152021574No fuck off. Peter was growing as a character & person. He didn't need Aunt May in his life anymore & could build his own future. Quesada actively forcing Peter to regress & stay immature to this day made him completely stagnant at best. Irresponsibly selfishly stupid at worst.
>>152021517He didn't know about that until after he made the deal
Joe Quesada and whoever the fucks agreed with him on One More Day certainly didn't thought about it. That's for certain.
>>152021166No, and to ask shows you don't really understand the character.>>152021193You don't know what the base premise of the character is is what you are saying.
Why doesn't Spider-Man just rape Mephisto?
>>152021901He lost his cock
>>152021758Pretty much all of Spider-man editorial since then agree with Quesada considering none of them have ever even tried to undo at least the deal made.
I have an idea om how to undo OMD.Peter and MJ tells Mephisto that deal is mute because Mephisto used their child.The deal was supposed to be about their marriage, not their child. Peter can simply tell off Mephisto that deal is not relevant because it wasn't what they're agreed on.
>>152022024If only Peter knew one or perhaps two lawyers who also specialize in superhuman cases. Gosh if only.
>>152021859>if you even have to ask...its a great way shutting down discusion. I think you don't understand the character and are to scared and lazy to engage the OP.
>>152022468I've been rubbing doo doo all over myself all day for the fecal slip and slide event downtown, how about you go fuck yourself? I don't have time with this shit.
What I wouldn't give to touch May's wrinkly pussy right now. Old woman's skin is so soft.
>>152021166He betrayed it in civil war when he removed his mask. He has responsibility to his family and friends and removing the mask put them all in danger. Selling his unborn childs soul and the marriage to satan was just a fall from grace that even made god give up on him. I like how mephisto has been larping as the biblical god to mess with him since he basically damned his soul to hell along with the innocent soul of his unborn child for eternity. I can see spiderman having re-occuring dreams of Uncle Ben looking at him with horrifying dissapointment and weeping silently at a breakfast table set for two. >>152021534No, the writing team are sadistic faggots and think putting spiderman into some fantasy "pussy slayer loser" mode is what made him popular and dangling the marriage and constantly ruining MJ will make people readRather then be a bigger disaster then maximum clonage and the speculator market crash combined for the IP they are a steward of.But they are very lucky that the degenerate comic geeks and the comic shops who depend on comics keep buying their unreadable faggotry.
>>152021687He recognized the red headed child that talked to him. He knew instinctively that she was his little girl, and he still did it. He's thrice damned and so is comic spiderman.
>>152022492um, actually how about you go fuck, yourself.
>>152022730>t. dookie slide last placer
>>152022738indian
>>152022846The name is Cleo Dookieslide, pecker neck.
>>152021682>Irresponsibly selfishly stupidThis was always baked into the character.The "I must hide my identity from my loved ones at all costs" thing was always completely retarded and made moreso by still closely associating both identities anyway.
>>152022907You're retarded.
>>152023016I may be retarded but at least I'm not retarded.
>>152021332real
>>152021166Uncle Ben never said that.
>>152021859Please enlighten me
>>152024655Spider-man did.
Also I cant believe they made miles do the same thing. That was the only upper hand he had as a spider-man and they threw it away
>>152025055Miles is never beating the discount Peter allegations
>>152021488lol ok stfu kelownaclown
>>152025055
>>152021166yeah
>>152021859>>152021574Marvel employees spottedNo one is falling for your gaslighting
>>152021682>Peter was growing as a character & person.The dude pre old wore a humiliating garbage bag to to fight crime and looked and acted like dorky teenage virgin. Hes a overgrown manchild at his core.
>>152025576Being a lighthearted character doesn't mean making stupid backwards decisions for the sake of it. Stop excusing bad writing over comedic moments unrelated.
He sold his wife and unborn child to a satan analogue Not only did he turn his back on everything he believed in but he damned his soul to do it
>>152021610Michael Jackson?
Peter betrayed his motto a long time ago when his own reckless behavior got Captain Stacy killed, he refused to take accountability, and then he continued to lie-by-omission to the man's daughter about the role he played in his death. He was a real piece of shit about it, and it's awfully convenient that she died before there could be a reckoning.
>>152025626Yeah, it was the 80s
>>152025599Hes a lighthearted character because hes mentally and emotionally a little boy trying hard to be taken seriously with a bunch of angst added to it.
>>152025699The "wreckless behavior" was to live by his motto in the first timeAnd captain stacy took a similar oath as a policeman
>>152022907He grew out of that long ago. Peter had his family know his identity and was married and moved forward.they took that from him because they are bitter fucktards.
>>152022024There are tons of ideas on how to fix this. The editor is such a blithering faggot that his response is "I don't think they should be together."
>>152025576No he wasn't, mocking his enemies was away to mess them up, he could always put power them especially when it came to saving people.
>>152026337That's a load of shit, who are you even arguing for? Do you even know what you are talking about at this point, sounds like you mixed up Deadpool with Spider-man.
>>152025625Mj chose to do the same too. It was the most retarded childish decision to make.
>>152021517He didn't sacrifice his unborn daughter's soul. She never existed.
>>152025576>>152026337This kind of thinking is why most of post-OMD era Spider-Man has been complete trash
>>152026337this is proof that post OMD Spider-Man has done massive damage to the character
I wonder if keving feige doesnt have something to do with this. Obviously not the creation of omd but its staying power
>>152026562wrong. MJ was pregnant. there's always fine print when dealing with the devil
>>152021166Yes
>>152026634I doubt it. Feige seemed more supportive of Hickman's Ultimate Universe since he provided a sketch covers for Ultimate Endgame, than anything else from Marvel
>>152021166Sony executives have Marvel brass on a short leash
>>152027317i doubt that considering the spiderverse movies had the most positive and popular adaptations of Pete in years
>>152026544MJ supported the decision when it was obvious Peter was a manchild and he wouldn't be able to live without his aunt May
>>152021574>>152022907>>152025576>>152026337>152021517>>152026642You literally don't know what you're talking about. Shut the fuck up.
>>152028557He lived without her for about three and a half years, from ASM400 to SM97.
>>152026675Yeah?
>>152021166Why does he need the great responsibility?
>>152021859Hi Slobb!
>>152021166yes, instead of moving on with life and accepting Aunt May's death he instead sacrificed his marriage his happiness and his unborn child just to keep a shriveled old woman alive. I can at least understand if May was a GILF but she isn't in 616
>>152021177>>152021859Geez the length some cape fans will go to excuse bad writing is impressive sometimes.
>>152031017Those posts you quoted come off more like the kinds of posts that people working at Marvel would make. I mean I guess they kind of count as "cape fans"
>>152027418Without Sony, Peter would have a fulfilling life in the comics. They don't deserve to be defended and neither does Marvel editorial
>>152021166He's a satanist for making a deal WITH THE DEVIL
>>152021166Especially since Heaven exists
>>152030831He falsely assumes Peter was so deeply traumatized by Ben and Gwen's deaths that he couldn't risk allowing anyone to die ever again, even if they were begging for its release
>>152021166It's the writers that made him do this...and by extension the editorial too.
>>152021166It wasn't even a motto to begin with, its a lesson he learned by himself.Raimi indirectly ruined Peter by having Uncle Ben spell it out for him.
>>152032639A lesson is a motto. >>152030793What does that even mean? A character needs its essence
>>152021669>>152021611>>152021682Pre-OMD Spider-man never existed. Such is the power of Mephisto
>>152032871I hate comic Spiderman so much
>>152032871Sounds like that neil gaiman story about cats losing power to humans
>>152032871See >>152031541I wonder if editorial is clapping and toasting over Tobey's Spidey being killed off in Doomsday since his version of the character and the poor reception of SM3 are likely what lead to BIB/OMD/BND
>>152021166don't betray them, man
>>152026520>>152026573>>152026573>>152026583>pic related proves my point, you are all immature manchildren who like a literal manchild fool.
>>152034993That's Marvel Adventures Spider-ManAn AU teen Peter
>>152033189Movies had nothing to do with OMD. Quesada always hated the idea of a married Spider-Man. The incredible success of Ultimate Spider-Man and Mary Jane's return in Amazing not moving the needle at all convinced him that he could finally get rid of the marriage without any huge blowback other than the usual grumbling of a loud minority.
>>152021166yes
>>152021166Yes, it ruined the character for all time as a result
>>152021166Yes, even fucking etrigan would call him a retard for making a deal with mephisto of all people.
