>a New God with a genius level intellect and cosmic senses falls for the "bumbling reporter" disguise I know comicbooks are supposed to be silly but come on man.
>>152034160>disguiseAnon, are you blind? Darkseid has every reason to be frustrated. He wanted Superman, and all he got was some nerd in a coat.
>>152034160Darkseid used to look so retarded
>>152034160hey legends superman is my favourite superman storyarc ever, I bought it in 2006.
>>152034160It's the same reason that Luthor refused to believe that Superman was Clark, neither he or Darkseid can accept that anyone as powerful as Superman would live a civilian life. Flimsy? Yeah but there is a logic to it.
>>152034160Darkseid is literally cringing at the sight of this meek weak human reporter.
>>152034160Kek, I think that’s the only time I’ve ever seen Darkseid show doubt or confusion. Even when he’s getting his ass kicked he acts all stoic.
Read Kirby's Fourth World books, Darkseid was neither a genius nor godlike in ability. He was a cowardly schemer with a lot of power.
>>152034209>>152034540Ah yes, this pathetic 6'4, 250lbs reporter. Who could ever believe that's Superman?
>>152034160If you actually read the story, Darkseid knows it's Superman but pretends not to in front of Metron.
>>152034160I dont think he has super senses I dont see why he wouldnt be fooled desu. He is probably expecting Superman to be a new god like him who wears his "uniform" or costume every day 24/7 I dont think he would understand the concept of a secret identity inherently
>>152034606>cowardlyI mean I guess. Anyone leading a mass army should have plans for if their stronghold is raided and they need to esccape though.
>>152034251The post New-52/armored look is so much worse. Just makes him look like a generic Image villain.
>>152034160>unironically believing Clark Kent is SupermanTake your meds, schizo.
>>152034160doesn’t clark hunch over as well?
>>152035645Kent may be 250 but if you think that guy is 6'4" you're crazy5'10" at best and probably closer to 300, the fat fuck
>>152035645Guys from Kansas farm, they are all built like that.
>>152035799Kirby's Darkseid avoided direct confrontations. He never directly led an invasion of anything, letting his minions and armies do all the dirty work.
The disguise is literally that good, deal with it nerd
>>152034160Non-DCfag here. What are the omega rays?
>>152035853Worse than this? C'mon.
>>152035645Don't be silly he'd be 5'11" at best if he didn't have that hunchback from always having his nose in some book or against a computer screen.
>>152034160Yeah, it's stupid.
>>152037244yeah, you're just a pleb, anon. Darkseid works best in the classic outfit. It's humble.
>>152039094My dude is literally wearing stockings, this is atrocious
>>152039290lemme guess, needs more fucking lines?ooh I know how about a symbol because he has OMEGA beams(get it??)
>>152034160It's actually brilliant. Power is everything to Darkseid. His entire existence revolves around the projection of his power, and the acquisition of more power. He lives only to torment and dominate everyone around him. The idea of a being holding immense power, but instead choosing to use it benevolently and keep it hidden- not just for his own sake, but for the safety of others who he cares about- is alien to him. Up until he encountered Superman he probably had no idea such a thing was even possible.
>>152034251A man can't wear a crop top and show off their muscles?
>>152034606>>152035799I have a hard time considering the hunger dogs as cannon to the original story given the circumstances around it.>>152036815He openly confronts various new gods multiple times. The original mister miracle run literally ends with him crashing the wedding forcing everyone else to flee.
>>152034606They've references this disparity in the material before, I think the general understanding is that Darkside waxes and wanes in power and personality because he's an elemental force that is in flux? Something like that, the real reason is the same reason that Magneto and Doom used to be written like this, the archetype of a villain has changes a lot since the 60s and this particular trope comes from a desire to morlaize the books by having clear cut villains who are portrayed negatively in personality, like most post comics code and general media after the Hays code in the united states.
>>152034606This anon gets it. Darkseid describes himself as "the Tiger Force", and has to portray himself that way, because he rules Apokolips through fear and the projection of authority. Yet Kirby describes him as a paper tiger, because Darkseid doesn't actually have the strength to back his words up. He may believe that he does, and he may have to buy into his own hype to keep the other schemers of Apokolips in line - but all he can do is scheme and try to outmaneuver the stronger, the good, and the individuals that oppose him.By the end of it all, he's just a shadow in his grandson's ear, having lost all the "strength" he could physically project yet still trying to continue manipulation by words.
>>152039676>I have a hard time considering the hunger dogs as cannon to the original storyThose particular panels were from Even Gods Must Die, the backup story from the New Gods reprint before Hunger Dogs. Instead of facing Orion in open combat Darkseid runs away and leads Orion into a group of soldiers who gun him down.>The original mister miracle run literally ends with him crashing the wedding forcing everyone else to flee.That wasn't open confrontation. He caused a storm that disrupted the wedding and Oberon and Shilo Norman just happen to run into him, it was a last page surprise twist.
Darkseid is a lot like Dr Doom in that people seem to want them to be unstoppable forces instead of threats to be defeated wholly or in part by the end.Though Dr Doom also has a degree of worship from mdtwits.
>>152042080A lot of people who jerk off the classic supervillain into something they're not are feeding the same problem that plagues the cultural perception of fascism post-WW2. It's taking real tyranny and then exaggerating it and warping it into a caricature that doesn't really have any basis in reality whatsoever, and ends up making it look "cooler" than it actually was. Americans are guilty of this for a few reasons: many US citizens do not want to recognize America's own brand of tyranny and project it onto "acceptable targets" (literally anyone we're opposed to), but the average person is very uncomfortable with admitting that fascism is easier to slip into than we like to admit. We all love to toot the horn about democracy and equal rights and freedom, but that goes away real fast when people are starving. There's also the fact that most people have little familiarity with what fascism actually looks like. Also, the average American has very little real-world experience with classic tyranny outside of history books, propaganda, and pulp fiction. Some people maybe have experienced it, but it's far more depersonalized and borderline Kafkaesque in how it screws you over compared to what was going on in Europe.
>>152034251Darkseid has never had a good look, some are just less bad than others.
>>152042373Wrong
>>152042373Oh really? How do you explain this then? Regret your words and deeds and apologise.
>>152042358And yet this is something that America has arguably always had - the fixation on the supervillain as both a cowardly loser and an unstoppable power fantasy. While it is debated as to who the first superhero really is (Golden Bat, Superman, The Shadow, etc), most people agree that Fu Manchu is the original supervillain. He debuted shortly before WW1, and yet he still managed to develop a massive following based solely off of how cool he was as the protagonist of the story. He went on to inspire every other supervillain you can think of, but the key distinction was that these villains were not allowed to be the focal point (blame TV censorship, the Hayes Code, and the CCA) or be depicted as something one should aspire to emulate. It wasn't until the 90s that villain worship finally became mainstream, but 9/11 resulted in media like Wicked taking things a step further, suggesting that the supervillain was in fact blameless or far more sympathetic than they were originally labeled as, if not outright the hero of the story (which is where we're currently at with examples like Joker 2019) or existing in a framework where "nobody is the villain" (something proudly touted by Disney).
>>152042438HE THICC
>>152041122I can't recall, was this the last issue of the OG Fourth World run? Always thought he did it to sign off and laugh at the "bittersweet"ness of being able to do Fourth World at DC but finding himself on the outs again after sales numbers weren't as positive as the brass hoped.
>>152041122They're both part of the same story and were written years after the original cancelations, which led to Kirby making several changes (like taking away most of the cosmic powers) to adapt the story for his new thoughts on recent politics.>That wasn't open confrontation. He caused a storm that disrupted the wedding and Oberon and Shilo Norman just happen to run into him, it was a last page surprise twist.He didn't cause the storm he was the storm, thats the reveal. Beyond that he also fought the forever people directly.
>>152034251It doesn't matter how he looks; it matters how he acts.
>>152034160It's not a disguise. He really is Clark Kent, mild mannered reporting of a daily metropolitan newspaper
>>152042438...Sattou?
>>152042438Antseid is weid.
>>152042942You're not fooling anyone.
writers can't do intelligence
>>152034160this art fucks
>>152034540No he's calling him cringe. Clark is going to lose subscriber
>>152037240Darkseid's primary power source is his nebulously defined "Omega Force" which gives him various abilities via projecting them as different types of rays. One of these is teleportating people he hits places, though he's pretty much only ever used it to send people to Apokolips
>>152042438Wideseid Is
>>152039420>>152039311All he needs to improve his design 200x is to get rid of the weird head thing so he can just look like a bald man not a bald man in a...cloth foreskin? And lower the boots... Fucking give him a shirt and tie who cares anymore
Kirby's Darkseid is literally a israeli zoinist supremacist Jude.A weak creature with very little strength, it schemes and plots nonstop it uses the goyim/slave class for its goals never directly attacking unless he can 100% completely dominate humiliate capture and then torture the person to spread fear that this is the fate of anyone who earns my ire. It claims to be the chosen and will rule like no one else ever has it will be perfection If something can not go his way or he is backed up against the wall loss is inevitable he will operation SAMSON(fire off its stockpile of nuclear ramjets((nuclear powered rockets that can stay up for months at mach9 as low as 50m off the ground spewing out massive radiation after its payload has been released the rocket only stops when all its nuclear fuel source has been burned up)) filled with MIRV warheads 9 nukes in a single nuke that shoot above the target cluster bombing the area so you cant shoot it down) out taking everyone with him by releasing nuclear hellfire. He will easily leave a fight if he is sure to be harmed, using his slaves as an unknown distraction leaving them to there deaths.
>>152044903Take your meds, anon.
>>152042080One of my favorite Stan Lee-penny Doom moments was when he had him running scared and absolutely terrified of his little backwater country getting rolled over by China.>>152042761>Beyond that he also fought the forever people directly.He confronted them directly, but he didn't actually fight them, he sent them across time and space with the omega effect. For such a dark and scary guy, he was either unable or unwilling to kill them, claimed he wouldn't do it because they were merely children and even he draws the line at killing children, even if they're actively trying to bring him down.
>>152045757Yeah, in the original Kirby run he was just the embodiment of tyranny, not evil itself.
>>152044606Weidseid
>>152042464One could say this started with Paradise Lost.
>>152039676> I have a hard time considering the hunger dogs as cannonI disagree, but at least you have a solid reason. I know it’s a minority opinion, but I felt like it was a perfect ending. Well, except for the inks, which made Kirby look like he’d lost a step, which judging from the pencils was not the case.
>>152048144I second that. For all the lip service people give to Kirby I thought it was odd that they all ignore Hunger Dogs since it it doesn't really change much besides New Genesis blowing up but they all survive (or at least the folks in Supertown, the bugs were on their own).
