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Why couldn't this movie be a "Shrek" for superheroes?
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>>152039886
Why should it be?
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>>152039886
>Parodies capeshit staples like mono-logues, impractical costumes and secret identities which are still quoted to this day
Is it not?
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>>152039906
It takes itself way too seriously, it would be better if it was Shrek-styled satire like the teaser implied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UaGUdNJdRQ
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>>152039924
They still found a way to make those not played for laughs.
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>>152039955
According to whom?
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>>152039886
WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT?
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>>152039886
>"Shrek" for superheroes
The fuck does that mean? Superheroes should all be outcasts living in a swamp who learn to be friends and find romance with people who look past their outward appearance?

No, seriously, what the fuck are you talking about.
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>>152039886
The social commentary wouldn't work if it was more like Shrek. Shrek works because it was always intended to be satire.
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>>152039886
Because its good.
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>>152039886
Not enough pop culture references
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>>152040096
The first thing she did when she figured out how to control her powers is go into the boy's locker room
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>>152040020
Comedic subversive parody.
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>>152039886
Shrek's mission statement is "Fuck Disney and fuck Michael Eisner". It was such an effective ritual in dismantling the old Disney ethos and brand that it mindbroke the company into slathering all subsequent fairy tales in a layer of irony and devoting massive amounts of energy into making remakes that apologized for adaptations of old fairy tales not being feminist enough for the modern era.
For a superhero version of Shrek you'd have to make the villain into a thinly veiled caricature of Joe Quesada or some other annoying editor/writer and go "Fuck the comic book industry" in addition to going "Fuck the manchildren that buy this slop" like what Incredibles and Megamind did for their villains
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>>152040116
Describes both of these movies.
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>>152039886
Likely because Brad Bird is someone who likes spectacle with grounded drama.
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>>152039926
>It takes itself way too seriously
That's worse with Ratatouille, the first Brad Bird's movie that was outright bad.
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>>152039886
Fuck is that supposed to mean?
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>>152040182
>the first Brad Bird's movie that was outright bad.
It was his third movie, man. Iron Giant, Incredibles, Ratatouille.

Also, the movie wasn't bad. It just wasn't great. Major problems with the characters and plot that people seem to have whitewashed over because that one scene with the critic flashback was really really good.
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>>152040144
It never works with his ugly character designs.
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>>152041108
>seething tranny
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>Director: Brad Bird
>Story Supervisor: Mark Andrews
>Production designer: Lou Romano
>Art director: Ralph Eggleston
>Character designers: Tony Fucile and Teddy Newton

All of these people were CalArts alumni and graduates. Most of them, plus producer John Walker, came straight from Iron Giant and Osmosis Jones, which are as CalArts as it gets. The Incredibles is a CalArts movie
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>>152039926
>It takes itself way too seriously
Why do people think thats a bad thing? Being earnest is better than being nihilistic. The movie is good enough that it deserves to take itself seriously.
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>>152039886
It's highly regarded
It won the Best Animated Oscar
It was financially successful
There's really nothing to improve on here.
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>>152039886
Because it's just fantastic four
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>>152041455
>Holy heckin fuckerino, is that… THE INCREDIBLES???? That’s STILL the best Fantastic Four movie!!!!
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>>152039886
Shrek succeeded because Mike Myers, one of the greatest comedic genius of our time, took a look at the original script, said "this is fucking shite," and turned it into a Mike Meyers and Eddie Murphy buddy comedy movies that happened to be 3D animated and based on fairy tales. Incredibles did not have the same production process.
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>>152041321
Shut your mouth, faggot
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>>152041718
Schizo
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>>152041321
Kys sharkfag
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>>152041321
Was calarts always presented as a dogshit school? I thought criticizing it only became popular after every show on cartoon network started to look the same.
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>>152042067
>I thought criticizing it only became popular after every show on cartoon network started to look the same
And you are correct
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>Why yes, I DO post that The Incredibles is the best Fantastic Four movie on Reddit! How could you tell?
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Not a fan of Incredibles. It's too long, too american, too strident, too violent, too objectivist and, worst of all, too CalArts.
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>>152042502
Stfu, faggot
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Because the film is good, and subtle satire is harder to pull off than blatant satire.
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>>152042573
Shrek is good
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i remember when shrek was considered serious, with lots of sarcasm and adult jokes.
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>back then, having a big ass was considered a bad thing to women
What the fuck happened from.2004 to now??
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>>152042630
The world became better, also, you should say 60s since it chronologically takes place there
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>>152042638
>also, you should say 60s since it chronologically takes place there
True true, but I was actually talking about the release date of the movie to now. Were people as booty crazy back in the early 2000s similar to today?
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>>152041718
i say this and i look like this though
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Post Helen
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>>152042630
Best scene in the movie.
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>>152039886
So you wanted it to be shit?
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>>152042782
>Were people as booty crazy back in the early 2000s
Lol clueless zoomer. Late 90s and early 2000s hiphop culture popularized big butts
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>>152044818
Stop using 4chan buzzwords, you sound retarded.
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>>152044802
Retard
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>>152044818
Noooo... that shift happened in the 2010s
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>>152039926
All the teaser implied was that it was gonna have a retired superhero coming back.



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