>"If God is real, why would he make you ugly and give you a fat ass? What kind of God would give you a smoking hot mom like Lois but have you grow up looking like Peter?"
>>152044748Brian is proof that not all dogs go to heaven
>>152044748>God gives girl a fat ass>This is somehow a bad thing
>>152044780Gen Xers are the last of the flat ass era.Please understand.
>>152044748She looks more like lois than peter imo
>>152044766He uh, ate chocolate
>>152044780>Fat=goodFat doesnt necessarily mean it will be good you nog>>152044833Don't you ever get tired of this endless revionism?
>>152044748Why is Brian an atheist when he already met Jesus?
>>152044889>Compromise your beliefs to spite othersYou don't believe in God, you're just virtue signaling to rebuke things that upset you.
>>152044908Bad continuity
>>152044748Why does everyone make the assumption that God is always responsible for every little thing in our lives, IE the "He has a plan for us" or "why doesn't he just end cancer" stuff, instead of assuming that God just likes watching humanity do their own thing without his input for his own entertainment?
>>152045092Because the bible says he can't stop fucking around with the world. He is the one controlling every damn thing. Good or bad.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/"If%20God%20is%20real%2C%20why%20would%20he%20make%20you%20ugly%20and%20give%20you%20a%20fat%20ass"/I love the creative threads of /co/
>>152045092Because he's posited by the Abrahamic cucks as the omnipotent, omniscient all-good creator. He is by default responsible for everything, and also is not able to like "just watching" as he already knows everything that will ever happen. Your argument is like shooting a man and then going: "Why do you assume I was responsible for the bullet hitting that man, I just pulled the trigger and like watching what the bullet does afterwards without my input". God having all three attributes is contradictory in a way even a child can understand, but to take away any one of the three leaves organized religion seriously hobbled so you get the endless amounts of weak justifications and rationalizations.
>>152045184its a test to see if you still love him after he shoots you. (he actually knew how you would respond before hand he just wanted to see it)
>>152044780Seth really had the worst takes on Christianity I really love this part cause it so badly informed>Implies no other religion could have possibly taken christianities place, "the religion" not just another religion among other respectable religions >Dark ages were dark and repressive cause of the name dark, even through science being stagnant in Europe is a myth (they knew the world was round, colombus thought it was smaller than it actually was. If NA didn't exist he would have died)
>>152045347If they twist had been a greek starts raping Stewie I would have forgiven them for this. “Of course…oh dear god in heavens no! … some trade… not the hot sauce!…offs!”
>>152045347>Implies no other religion could have possibly taken christianities place, "the religion" not just another religion among other respectable religionsI like how this part implies you agree that the absence of christianity is inherently a good thing. This post also has "if I don't steal your house, then someone else will!" energy. You have to go back.
>>152045184Sometimes you have to hurt to get stronger. The dad's role isn't to spare you of your trials but to make sure you don't get in over your head.
>>152045347literally all he had to do was say "religion" instead of "christianity" but nooooooooo
>>152045542Hey fedora tipper the anon was pointing out that religion is always going to exist because people look to a higher power for comfort. Zealotry exists regardless of Christianity and honestly it's better to have a relatively peaceful religion like Christianity running the show rather than some violent nonsense like Islam.
That's why it makes more sense to worship Lord Moloch, the insane demon god who hates everything good. Lord Moloch delights in human suffering and wants to punish humans for existing in His world.
>>152044868Gen X hereWe were and remain tits peopleEven the black ones
>>152045724It's almost comforting isn't it
>>152045609>Christianity>relatively peaceful
>>152045748>Choosing one or the other>Not choosing both
>the Molochschizo is back
>>152045724
>>152045609Islam wouldn't exist without Christianity, or at least Islam as we know it. Jesus is a prophet in Islam, just like not the main guyI guess the implication is that Jews, buddhists, Hindus, Hellenists, ect. all collectively gave up? I do like his house stealing analogy>Hey cuck, we're running the show now. Hand over your keys and your wife
>>152045594Is that what your dad told you when he assaulted you
>>152045594well he is omnipotent so he could probably do it without hurting you too
>>152045983Thats the price of free willInstead of living in perfect harmony humanity was cast out of Eden to experience good and evil. Or at least that's how I see it
>>152046004“Do what I say or suffer” is not free will
>>152046004This, we defied Gods will and he gave us the independence we wanted and the consequences thereof. He is there and watching, but he now requires our consent.
>>152046081Actually funny enough that's been talked about before, in the book version of the mysterious stranger>God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell--mouths mercy and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!...Look, if you couldn't come up with something as poetic as that I don't think you'll destroy any religion with facts and logic(My theory is that animals do not have morality, they can be cruel in our eyes; infintacide, surplus killing but they are not evil. We only suffer because we know what good and evil is)
>>152044748A god called random genetic arrangement Brian you fucktard
>>152045347Cucktianity is the only reason human rights exist so this future is impossible
>>152046089That’s just blind obedience
>>152046104Sounds like a malicious force more than anything.
>>152046104>My theory is that animals do not have morality, they can be cruel in our eyes; infintacide, surplus killing but they are not evil. We only suffer because we know what good and evil isI don't think that's necessarily a theory, I think that's literally how it works. Man was the only one to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, so only Man can do evil (or good).
>>152046004Why didn't he give us free will and allow us to experience good and evil without anyone getting hurt?
>>152045347Takes like this are interesting because it's supposed to shit on Christianity but also implies Christianity is the only religion that matters.These progressive writers are just letting their own eurocentrism slip out.
Suffering is good, actually
>>152046243Only when it happens to you.
>>152046171>free will>consent>blind obedienceDoes not need to be, since I have lived long enough to understand what life against his wisdom looks like. Youre not blind if you agree with him. Whats blind is being illiterate and trusting that your priest is speaking the truth.
>>152046243Yes it halts egomania thats why torturing an asshole humbles them
>>152046267>Do what I say or suffer the consequences >Also no proof to go off of if any of this is real>Most of the Bible fall apart the moment you look at it with objectivityI was a Christian for a long time. I know all the talking points, and I know what blind obedience looks like. That’s all this is
>>152045347>>152045595>>152046224You all know very well why he chose to say Christianity instead of religion in general.
>>152045952Muhammad would exist regardless of Jesus. He is the one that started the religion and it would always be a justification for arab conquest.
>>152045786>Muh CrusadesYou do know those were retaliatory right?
>>152046212That's mark twain when he's been through the fucking wringer, his kids and wife died, and he was bankrupt so it's his darkest thoughtsFunny that Satan and the animated one are opposite in a way. Movie Satan is trying to convince you you aren't real, book Satan is trying to convince you HE isn't real(along with all reality)
>>152046429Most Christians today only join up cuz they think it makes it okay to hate people and want to do violence against them
>>152046330There are unlimited interpretations of the scripture, many being malicious. What is important is your interpretation. I believe that looking at the Bible objectively is not the correct thing to do as the provided stories are suppose to impart wisdom, not history. How do you teach a child a valuable lesson if they do not have the life experience to empathize with the concept? Its like an old fart sharing an idiom to a child. The kid might see the point, but has not cemented it since it never applied to them, yet.
>>152046429My point is that all of these backwards desert religions are just that. Arguing over which is supposedly more or less violent is pointless.
>>152044748Is ironic that Brian says this while God canonically exists and Peter and friends saw and talked to him a lot of times.
>>152046447You need some extra hay for that strawman you're building?
>>152046510If none of the translations are good enough for you, then at that point you’re just getting into your own headcaconAlso, the Bible condones slavery. Not exactly what I’d be teaching children
>>152045347Such Nihlistic ignorance.
>>152045948Yes, like that, except Lord Moloch doesn't want to wait until we die before He starts torturing us forever. His goal is to turn Earth into a torture chamber, and then the universe, and then the multiverse, and then the omniverse. There can be no escape from His undying hatred for all that exists.
>>152046539There are many non religious movements that are far more violent than christianity
>>152045092I mean, he literally went out of his way to create cancer. He would have the moral high ground if all that was wrong in the world was the cause of human behavior/free will (war, crime, poverty, etc), but shit like disease and natural disasters is 100% God's fault
>>152046583Anon, honestly, are you retarded? The conversation is about religion.
>>152046251Correct, I should be the only one in this world who suffers, for I am the most deserving of it
That reminded me, cause of all the flying car in that clipWe CAN have flying cars now, and their have been prototypes. I know someone who works at a company where they're researching into thatThe biggest problem is that putting the average driver behind a flying car is a terrible idea, I think they're just waiting for self driving to get better
>>152046558All of it is head cannon. The only thing I will trust are the words from God himself. I have faith in him and focus on the Ten Commandments as a moralistic guide to a righteous and peaceful life. Outside of that, others do not need to think for me as I will form my own opinions. Each of us has our own journey in life. This journey is to teach you how and why to become a better person. If you choose not to learn and make change, well then you will continue to create your own problems. If there is one thing that the Bible teaches you, its that nothing will happen until you put in the work out of your own volition. Once you do that, he will guide you. But only if you accept his help. Also you saying the Bible condoning slavery is hyperbole, but thats another matter.
>>152046665The conversation was about how Seth is retarded for his portrayal of christianity as the one true evil causing all problems in the world. Humanity's problems wouldn't just magically go away if religion didn't exist
>>152046882>If there is one thing that the Bible teaches you, its that nothing will happen until you put in the work out of your own volition. Once you do that, he will guide you. But only if you accept his help.So what you are saying is that you don't get help unless you already do everything yourself, then god will help you? That sounds like some red hen, bootstrap bullshit.
>>152046938Once again, we defied Gods wisdom out of hubris. Hubris without experience is one of the most self destructive force in our existence. Now we are being shown why, just like we wanted. We were not created to be gods, even Lucifer, the perfect being; was not created to be a God. Now that we have had a chance to prove to ourselves that we could be gods, how do you think that is going? Are we worthy, even to our own idealizations?
>>152046938Not him but you need to filter out the retards and the nihilists somehow. Unless my memory fails me, I think there are some religions that don't deal with heathens properly and historically it never works out
>>152046938Schizo
>>152044748Meg is ugly because she is jewish and GOD cursed the jews for not following his laws but being fat is her own cause since Lois does cook dinner and isn't the fast food every night type of mom.It was made clear that Quagmire and Tyrone both want/have had sex with Meg so her being treated as super ugly is more of a comedic thing than a canon thing>>152044833asses don't need to be fat they need to be well rounded and on a matching frame.a small but tight and round ass looks great on a small and tight person
>>152044748If your chief argument against the existence of God is "Well why aren't you pleasing to my eyes", you might be a fucking idiot. I wonder if this was written by that guy they fired for making fun of the Japanese tsunami, would explain why they've never had one quite so bad since.
>>152049119The writer credited is Danny Smith, he wrote a few of their other religious episodes.
>>152049066>Meg is freakishly ugly>Half her focus episodes feature somebody wanting to fuck herTalk about inconsistent writing
>>152044748Motherfuckers will literally be like>If God is good then why isn't He a tyrant? And expect you to be mindblown.
>>152049378she is literally malformed with weird growths and stuff like that at time but its all for the joke>>152049474Its like they don't understand the concept of free will and it 100% tells you they've never bothered to read the Bible.
>>152045347Hes a satanist who worships science as if it's a nature religion that values hedonistic pursuit.Benign and does moderately positive things but still evil. Lawful evil but evil nonetheless.
>>152044748>God doesn't exist because...ugly people exist!What the fuck was this episode?
>>152050021Easy way to manipulate losers
>>152050021>Ugly people exist>Therefore, God not realwtf, based?
>>152044748I don't understand why every episode for the last 15 years has acted like she's some unholy demon who should've been drowned at birth. I get that she's not as hot as Francine or Lois, but Meg really isn't that ugly.
>>152050336I agree with you, she’s not ugly at all
>>152045347There is an unmatched depth of wisdom in scripture and the traditions of the original Christian church that cannot be communicated properly on an image board where people go to call each other nigger and argue about Sonic's arms. The average Christian is also a simpleton who is 100% punching above their weight trying to do so. They can't articulate the wisdom, even if they've internalized the lessons. There's nothing wrong with that, most people are that way, but hubristic modernist cucks aren't concerned with depth and truth, they just want to glorify themselves on the big, smart boy pedestal and that's how they measure a belief's validity. They see dumb people congregating and assume instantly there is nothing here for them. They spend their lives on stilts, proud about how smart they are, missing out on the great foundational circles of wisdom they think are beneath them. Then they all die, because the despair and nihilism and smug lack of conviction isn't sustainable. Guess who replaces them? It's all so tiresome.
>>152049066I like jews, big schnoz's and bagels and lox...>>152050336She's just supposed to be a slightly below average girl That might've actually just been spite cause of the whole lacey chabert thing, also the network 100% forced them to include a young girl character and they just ran outta ideas
>>152045184Yeah, people think the questions that stump Christians are "if god was so loving something something gays" but the real big ones are "explain the dynamic between fate and free will" or anything that forces them to choose between "questioning sovereignty" and "holy shit, I'm a meat puppet with no true control and God punishes me for sins he ordained me to do."
>>152050964The answer is prett obvi. You have free will but god is omniscient and already know what you're going to do. It was always up to you and god respected that despite knowinf whether it would lead to eternal happiness or eternal pain. That's the whole point that despite knowing how everything is going to turn out God still respects free will enough to let it go on without his intervention when necessary.
>>152051012I think a better answer to >>152050964 is that God knows all possible decisions you can make along with all possible outcomes. Free will is actualization and the culling of infinite possibilities.
Isn't the joke with Meg that she's not nearly as unattractive as the show makes her out to be? She's not fat, maybe a little chubby at most, and she seems to have exactly the same face shape as Lois. I always thought that was the gag, that the show treats her as hideous when she really isn't.
>>152051120They write her poorly because the writers cannot write teenage girl characters.
>if God was real why is he giving me gifts!?>GIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIECommunists are stupid.
Did you know they recently made an episode about how a world without christianity would be utopia where everyone is jewish, acting like jewish people could never do anything violent… reminder, the episode I’m talking about came out when israel’s sins were being publicly displayed in the cultural zeitgeist
>>152052278Oh, also the reason they get rid of christianity in the episode is because a girl wouldn’t fuck brian, no joke, literal incel type shit.
>>152044780Megs fat ass is proof God exists and is loving.
>>152044748Why are there so many atheist that need to convince you that not only god doesn't exist, that he is actually evil, they try both, its either god doesn't exist or he is evil and why is only Christianity that have these nutcases.
>>152051012The father analogy doesn’t work so god should get credit for his supposed leniency. A good father lets their children makes mistakes but he doesn’t engineer circumstances he knows will end in failure, then punish them for that failure.
>>152052437Shouldn’t*
It's just low IQ malnourished dehydrated schizophrenic fever dream ramblings and it's bizarre that it's incoherent book got a following. I will eat shrimp because I'm not a faggot.
>>152052437Knowing someone will fail reflects awareness of their likely choices, not responsibility for the outcome. Their failure is a consequence of their own actions. His tests are not designed to be impossible to pass. TDRL: God gives you tasks that are possible to pass, but He'll know you likely fail because of your own shortcomings, He then punishes you for it in the hopes that you work on fixing those shortcomings.
>>152045347>>152046132The Entire Sinosphere (China and her vassals) was insulated from Christianity and the liberal notion of human rights for basically 99% of it's history and yet despite coming up with technologies that should have propelled them light years a head of everyone else and allow them to rule the world thanks to first movers advantage they just had a habit of sitting on what they had with few improvements but not enough to have an industrial revolution emerge on it's own. Really it's because the history of technology isn't a RTS with a tech tree, a lot of historical developments are accidental and technological development for the sake of technological development is rather recent development. We take it for granted because we are born in an era which this is normal and history is presented teleologically in a compressed form so it looks like we could have speed runned it like a game. If history really had a tech tree, China should have won and be a type 1 civilization by now. It had every advantage , it didn't even undergo a collapse of Rome that caused a dark age(ignore the byzantines) or have religions as oppressive as the Abrahamic ones but somehow it got surpassed by the "backwards" Europeans.
>>152045092God exists, he just likes to fuck around and make some people fat bald poor incels for a laff
>>152046541yeah the writers intend to ignore that stuff when they try to do "serious" episodes when they need to send a point across to the underaged viewers
>>152046132>this is what christtards actually believe
>>152045141So God made Sodom and Gomorrah gay, and then smote them for going against his teachings and being gay?Doesn't check out.
>>152054386Nta but the devil did that, same with making humanity so wicked that god saw no other option but to flood everything.
>>152053614Well anon, the Chinese have a massive sight debuff so they can't see what they're doing as well as the Europeans. Think of it. A 20% debuff to every action. That shit stacks up quickly. And yes I'm talking about the Asian eyes.
>>152052427because most atheists are people rebelling from their parents who took them church on sundays, which mostly was just 1-2 hours long, and it happened only once a week, that's itwhich is also why you'll rarely see them talk about Islam or JudaismI used to be like them as well, in terms that I didn't care for church and wished I slept in on sundays, but as I grew older I'm glad my parents took me there, I appreciate the experience now
>>152045092Because theologians and philosophers suggest that he must be the origin and source of morality, and therefore ought to be infinitely good. If his actions are not good, contradictions arise that question his validity as a concept
>>152054448So God does everything but he can't stop the devil?
>Brian is an athiest because he's too gay to find Meg hotBrians reason for not believing in God is dumber than Ricks.
>>152055291Meg is the one who is an atheist because she thinks she's uglyPreviously she was a Christian because she had a crush on Kirk Cameron or something, I haven't seen the episode since it was new
>>152055231And the devil was previously an angel who was perfect and had no free will but led like half of all angels who were also perfect and lacked free will into rebelling against God who created them because he liked humans better or something
>>152055388Angels have free will. You can't rebel without free will.
>>152055231By giving creation free will he actively chooses the role of an audience just seeing everything unfold by our own choice.
>>152055231>>152055388It's almost as if there's a logical argument that this is crazy.
>>152049066>small and tight ass>small and tight personI know what you are.
>>152044748She has a fat ass?
>>152056507yeah meg canonically has a fat ass its mentioned several times shes a PAWG
>>152056714The writers clearly don't understand the appeal. They talk up having big tits sure but any woman over 90lbs is considered horribly fat in the Family Guy universe.
>>152052054>They write her poorly because the writers cannot write teenage girl characters.which is funny cause she's been over 18 for like at least a decade at this point, they could have her finally graduate high school and just treat her as a regular adult character, like they aren't great at writing adult women but definitely are better at it than with teenage girls
>>152044748Seth is an atheist.
>>152044780A Nice shapely plump ass is great but a fat ass obese ass isn't
>>152044748>has literally met Jesus multiple times>still an atheist
>>152044748The kind that enjoys punishing Brian for being a hornier nitwit than Quagmire.
>>152051120the joke with Meg seems to be that the writers seem to think it's funny to be disproportionately and inexplicably cruel to one characteri don't know why this show runs as long as south park and simpsons
>>152054451>massive sight debufffortunately Japanese people overcame this in a particularly clever way:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96iJsdGkl44
>>152058673Pretty funny actually.
>>152045542Do you know why Christianity caught on in the first place? Like the ACTUAL reason it caught on?>religion called "Judaism" exists in olden times (a different religion than the one modern New Yorkers practice)>around 200 BC, Hebrews realize they aren't really a dominate power anymore and start integrating into Greek society>a few hardcore Judaists get pissed and start a new group called the Separatists (Pharisees)>Separatists revamp the religion to put a LOT of emphasis on the "God's Chosen People" stuff and add a bunch of shit about non-Jews being inferior>come 0BC, remaining Jews basically have to choose between throwing away their religion or joining the crazy supremacists>suddenly, Jesus appears>"Hey, fuck the Separatists. Everyone is free to join Christianity. And we DON'T hate outsiders here. God says to be nice.">remaining Jews go "oh, thank God" and jump on board>Separatists seethe and kill Jesus>Separatists run off to write the Talmud and become Modern Talmudic/Rabbinic JewsChristianity literally exists in the first place because Jesus realized what happens if you allow grassroots religions to form: They almost always form out of anger toward someone and turn violent. So he filled the void with a peaceful religion.That's a big reason people who speak against Christianity keep pointing out things like the Third Crusade (a land dispute gone wrong), and not the other 99% of Christianity's peaceful existence. It exists as a shield to stop something like Radical Islam or Talmudic Judaism from catching on.
>>152058859I guess the problem is not christianity itself but a huge deal of christians who use it as an excuse to be shitheels
>>152045347I'm actually glad atheism grew past the edgy teen phase of the late 00s and the likes of Seth brand atheism is ridiculed by everyone alike
