I like Spiral.Has she ever had any good stories of her own in the comics.
>>152046754nah and I rather have that stay that way.the last thing I want is for some group of incompetent degenerates fucking butcher her and make her both lame and gay.
>>152047977thisyou do not want your obscure thing to get picked up and made mainstream for the sake of making money because it will literally never feel the same again no matter how hard you copebe happy for what we have left
>>152046754no, she’s mostly stuck with the x-fagsalso >>152047977 please for the love of god pray that she does not get more attention.
Even basic things like "how the fuck did you end up on Freedom Force?" have a dubious explanation. Don't worry about such things.
>>152046754>"I like her">has never the comics she's intypical /co/
>>152050483>has never the comicsyeah dumb esl is typical /co/ alright
>>152050483I got disinterested in that "Dancing swords" and changeling powers aren't from the comics
>>152046754https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQKR-iy-gAEThis guy does video rundowns on characters in vs Capcom games and for Marvel character he gives out comic reccs For Spiral he recommended the story arc Gambit & Rogue Forever
>>152046754I can't think of any
>>152046754What a random choice for marvel vs capcom 2
>>152052092Recycled from X-Men: Children of the Atom.
>>152052092They basically picked theroster because they were cool with unique powers and designs and I bet they also wanted rival characters to have villains balance out heroes somewhat. Spiral's main rival other than Longshot (who she probably still loves anyway, I dunno haven't kept up) is Psylocke because of the mind swap which she had a hand in. Plus that cover where they are fighting came out around that time. Anyway, Nocenti probably self-inserted as Spiral but lessened it by making her a tragic figure. Hopefully if a love interest is ever in the cards for her, he better be a real chad. Also I read somewhere she isn't under Mojo anymore. Am I remembering correctly?
>>152053066It goes in cycles where she stands in relation to Mojo because comics. Her last appearance in terms of publication was working with Mojo II: The Sequel in part of a combined bad guy group brainwashing plot through the internet in the Avengers Academy Infinity comic.
>>152053215I'm not an X-Men guy so I have a little bit more knowledge than the average person but not enough to have actually read a lot of X-Men. I looked at Mojo II and man...lol another fu-manchu villain. Oh and it looks like he only appeared like once or twice, guess that's why I haven't heard of him. Pic rel is a cool modified Spiral figure I saw an anon post on /toy/. Shit looks cash. I need to read more to justify if my idea of her being a comedic but a still straight-laced character like Bobobo would fit or not. I get that vibe where she is seen as very weird and goofy but she can still become menacing.I dunno it just came to me as an idea.
>>152052092I think they just really wanted to go all out animating her as they knew tjey could get really creative with her. Shes looks great in MvC2 but in Children of the Atom or whatever MvC game she was in first where she has her full animation and sprite set is really something else
>>152053465Man her sprite and animations are so kino. I like pic rel, big ol' fist made of arms.I'd give each one of her hands a firm handshake, look her in the eyes, and then I'd get my Mojo TV show just like that. I'm sure this boomer advice will work out.Also maybe some dapping up will get me her into the urban demographic faster and Mojo will give me some more alone time with her, the fat fuck.
>>152046754Spiral is super underutilised as a character. She looks cool and lends herself to dynamic fight scenes, she has a weird funky origin to pull on, she has magic powers, she's linked to X-Men but not so inextricably that that's all she's good for. It's a shame one of the few books that centred her was a dogshit continuation of one of the best modern Marvel titles.
>>152050890It is interesting how some characters have pretty much 1:1 reproductions of panels from the comics in their moves, and others are most based on what they feel like they should be able to do. Iron Man is a funny case because his intro animation and Proton Cannon are based on a story using the Telepresence armor (the nature of the weapon was also different), and his win screen image in MSH is when VOR/TEX is controlling his body.
>>152053733Man if they could just had her Juggy and Blackheart to Rivals i would have my hole MvC Crew
>>152053917I have a feeling they are avoiding villains for whatever reason. I mean I guess Marvel villains aren't as iconic as DC but man I hate MCU for sidelining all of them completely and never allowing them to live.Anyway, Rivals waifus could use more villainesses. Spiral is one of the more unique ones that could fit a shooter. Shathra, White Rabbit, and Typhoid Mary all also spring to mind as interesting ones.Man Nocenti really added some of the best females. Helps when she inserts as one of them. Though Longshot ain't a guy I'd go after but I guess women like the bishojo men.
>>152054139This page probably feels different than it was intended as of what happens to her. One of the first Marvel comics I read was Excalibur story Mojo Mayhem since my father had it. Spiral as Spiral was unavailable, but you still have Rita pressed into serving him.
>>152054139do you want them to be lame and gay? because in current era thats how you get them to be lame and gay.
So was she always intended to be Rita or is that just something whatever idiot conceived the Shattershot crossover came up with?
>>152054852Apparently in an interview she said didn't intend them to be the same person, but I am at least a third-hand source.
>>152054852Says here on a wiki Nicieza decided to make her and Spiral into one character. I haven't read it so I don't fully know how I'll feel about it. On paper it seems interesting and if >>152054416 is any indication, turns previous storylines into bittersweet ones. Funny how Nicieza did that to Psylocke and Spiral, retconning them. I thought Claremont would also want more TF material shoved in. Anyway, I guess it just kinda pisses me off a little bit the timeloop hasn't been closed yet. Not the same as Cable's deal so it is more conceivable for that bit of her arc to close.Also Spiral seems like a Taskmaster-coded character who could also train thugs and minions on fighting and all that. I would watch that show.>>152054470Yeah well I'm obviously thinking of an ideal world where hacks weren't writing and editing Marvel books.
>>152054470how are rivals chicks lame and gay?
>>152054139I'd argue Marvel has equally iconic villains as DC it's just the films clearly don't utilise them fully or just discard them. The cartoons and video games have no problem utilising them well, making them interesting or entertaining and I'd just kill for Rivals to have any playable Marvel villains at this point. Like for example I think Baron Zemo, Kang, Amora the Enchantress, Shocker or Doctor Octopus would be utterly perfect as playable characters honestly.
>>152055240What would Baron Zemo do? A glue gun? I dunno much beyond that one famous Avengers story, Thunderbolts, and that's it. There are a bunch of gun type villains or villains from Captain America or Iron Man that can get samey from a video game perspective. Like I admire a lot of Iron Man villains but you can't distinguish say, the living laser too much from Klaw or The Leader. I mean maybe the Leader and Bullseye are people you could differentiate a bit but I dunno when designing mechanics, that seems tough.Kang has time, Amora could use different spells than Doc Strange, and Shocker could be Lucio and Thing combined, causing big shockwaves but also pushing people away.Doc, yeah he needs to be in Rivals and MvC 4 whenever that happens. Same with Stormin' Norman.Anyway, who shall win on the next Mojo show titled "Spiral vs. 100 indian guys" and I heard rumors James Gunn will be sitting with laser focus on this one.
>>152046754She's based as FUCK.Totally awesome design and concept, multiple limbs will always be cool (case in point: Ben10's Four Arms). And interesting character too:>normie turned mercenary/troubleshooter for dimension-hopping African warlord/tv celebrity>>152049931fukken saved
>>152055307>What would Baron Zemo do?c'mon, give him one of the moon stones, it would be more comic accurate than half of the shit rogue does in this game.>glue gun?Adhesive X is way too emblematic to not give it to him at this point, have him set up traps and such, but beyond those two gimmicks his main shtick has to be sword-fighting.my one and only hope is they ditch the writing decision of making him a random hydra nazi hypeman they've been pushing since the 10's pls pls pls, the game's been very respectful with the comic history of all the characters (not named namor), so they have to cut the bullshit and go back to Bulsiek's and Nicieza's take on him
Does anybody else think Mojo's voice in the cartoons sound like they just took Bobcat Goldthwait's voice and slightly changed it and added Krang type noises?Also I am surprised they haven't done another Teen Titans/X-Men crossover or amalgam. Mojo and Control Freak being combined or Arcade and Mad mod would be good ones. Spiral would probably be best combined with Jinx.
>>152055581Isn't the only part that is inaccurate about Rogue is just the particle effects from that chrono-whatever? I mean I'd mod it out myself but I thought from the trailer she has some accuracy. Granted, she does need to have more access to more of the powers as she can't even stretch like Mr. Fantastic. I dunno, if she has some specific comic moves I wouldn't know about it. Moonstones? I dunno, I don't think of Zemo as having Moonstone's entire thing to himself. The glue gun and sword is better. But I don't know what else he has.Anyway, Spiral would have her dancing swords, some slashing movements of her swords either in her hands or floating a couple of feet away from her, teleportation of herself and also moving enemies around by swapping positions, extending fists, and then insert a comics-based spell that I don't know about. Maybe a power to swap characters powers around and also turn them into chibi-versions. A good mix of her MvC moveset and maybe some more pulls from the comics if there are any.
>>152049931Multi-arm girls evoke such a powerful feeling from deep within me good godShit like this makes me melt instantly
>>152055581>>152055730I'm personally fine with the Chronovium asspull for Rogue's powers because she still needs a functional kit at the end of the day, and besides the usual super hero smatterings of super strength, speed, durability, flight, etc, her main gimmick is power absorption and recreation, and there's no way they'd let her kit be a hodgepodge of stolen powers from other heroes as that'd be an unbalanced mess
>>152055135>how are rivals chicks lame and gay?they aren't...until those motherfuckers at marvel get a hold of 'em.
>>152055882Say what you will about the gameplayRivals so far has been doing a pretty damn good job at creating an idealized baseline for all the characters for new people to get attached toThe only exceptions being Namor, Daredevil, and Iron Fist
>>152055603Been ages since I saw anything with him in it. Didn't he kind of sound like a deranged Cookie Monster at first?
>>152055916who said anything about the gameplay? it is fun and dynamic.what I am scared about is those faggots at marvel noticing rivals and corrupting those characters to the point you wish they were forgotten.
>>152046754If you have to ask you don't like Spiral. You see a six armed bitch from a video game and latched onto nothing.
>>152055603There was one named Spiral Harley in the original Amalgam universe, but only appeared as a training robot and at a low detail. The fake letters page had her hyped up as a joke about women being rare in toylines.
>>152056088That's the MvC experience, brah.Like you see cool sexy asian assasin in a Leotard, and then you try reading her comics and discover she was a brittish woamn bodyjacking a japanese killer.
>>152056037I just brought up gameplay as it's a general complaint I've seen people make about the gameBasically nipping that topic in the bud>what I am scared about is those faggots at marvel noticing rivals and corrupting those characters to the point you wish they were forgotten.That is a reasonable fear to have, elevating a character's popularity runs the risk of retards at Marvel getting the wrong ideasThough iirc some senior editor (can't remember who) said that Rivals will not have any influence on what they make there when it comes to mainline comics, but given how they're squeezing Galacta into that upcoming Storm mini, I have my doubts
>>152056155Considering Ayodele, it is possible Galacta is there because of his interest in the big stick cosmic things instead of a higher-up aiming for MR synergy specifically.
>>152056111That is not remotely the same thing at all and the game didn't hide her origin at all. Anyone who plays MvC and sees the sexy ninja in a leotard is going to go read a comic from that era and they're gonna get a sexy ninja in a leotard and more importantly there's going to be a significant amount of comics featuring her.
>>152056111>she was a brittish woamn bodyjacking a japanese killer.wasn't the original origin just Mojo giving her cosmetic surgery to look Japanese
>>152056256I would laugh until I throw up if it turned out Galacta's rise from non-canon irrelevancy and introduction to 616 being a bit over a year apart from one another was actually a cosmic coincidence
>>152056292As someone whose main exposure to Marvel was through the MvC games and who didn't have the ability to buy comics due to living in the middle of buttfuck nowhereYeah you kinda latch onto the characters even though you know very little about them
>>152056155>Though iirc some senior editor (can't remember who) said that Rivals will not have any influence on what they make there when it comes to mainline comics, but given how they're squeezing Galacta into that upcoming Storm minipretty sure it's Brevoort you're thinking of and it's clear someone above him overruled him
>>152056385Ah yup there it isI do wonder what changed for them to want to try and give Galacta a shot
>>152056308Yes. Spiral helped out. But then Nicieza said Spiral also did the brain swap as well at some point. Revanche (japanese woman, the person who is the Psylocke you're familiar with, is in Betsy's body) comes back and then the mutant AIDS virus or Legacy virus infects and kills her as well as another Rivals character. She comes back years later, I forget when. Then they swap back and Betsy is made lesbian and is in a relationship with Rachel who is from Days of Future Past and is another time displaced child of Cyke and Jean. I do enjoy Betsy with purple hair but I guess future adaptations should just make one of Brian and Betsy's parents Japanese or something. Or just have white Betsy wear the Jim Lee costume and just have her train in Japan and gain enough respect to wear the ninja outfit. Maybe I'm alone on that one. Pic rel is around when that story and origin is fully explained. >>152056109Man, that's dumb. Just make Harley into Birdy and call her Birdey or Birdley (heh) and have her serve Hyena. Simple as that. Man they are retarded sometimes with their combo choices.>>152056385Add more anime cuteseyness to Marvel until all the BND editors are fed up and leave. Then just dial it back a bit. You'll be stuck with women writers but getting a regime change is infinitely preferable than the editorial now.Has Spiral ever had a TV remote gag where she has one in each hand and she changes the channel on a bunch of CRT's on a wall? Also I wonder if Mysterio would try to contact her.
>>152055831What is the rest of her powerset from the chronovium? Like I just thought it was particle effects on her punches and kicks. Are there time effects and buffs?I dunno, I think they could have inserted their own lore about her having absorbed some energy from Carol to the point that she could also shoot her lasers and she also has some of Gambit's powers. I dunno maybe that would be too derivative for her but at least they could have made her power absorption a little more exciting with the stufd you get. I know some had to be buffs and you can't absorb Ultron because he's a robot. I'm fine with that. But at some point it will look lazy.>>152056001I just looked up some vids of him. I guess you could say that.>>152056111Yep. Not a unique experience. But it definitely is a large reason why people latched onto Marvel and grew aware of it but also it caused people to go away because Marvel morphed into what it is now.Such is life. Here's hoping a blacked.com's customer like Brevoort will soon relinquish more of his control. I think it is in his hat. Remove that hat and he starts folding in on himself and is banished back to his dimension. I think it's Brevoortia and there are no six-armed bitches there. More like fridges and walls.>>152055782I think it's the aspect of a woman having multiple hand gestures going on at a time as well as the work ethic that can come with multitasking (a housewife archetype) that is especially ludo when combined with multiple arms. That and you get all-enveloping embraces.
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>>152056608Shatterstarfire's name was a mouthful, but extrapolating her existence probably would lead to something funny. I don't remember a Longshot-containing one appearing.Amalgam was also weird with how you had a bunch of doubling up on components.
Something about her is just so hot, this figure especially is beautiful >>152053415I think it's because she's one of the few x-women who is really just obviously not a normal human even from a visual standpoint while still being sexyMight also be that my hippie parents used to have statues of those multi armed hindu goddesses around the house when I was a kid, some of them were very sensual
>>152056667>I think they could have inserted their own lore about her having absorbed some energy from CarolThat's basically the reasoning behind using Chronovium, except with the substance, it also ties into the game's overall narrative as well as with Gambit and Rogue's story, with Gambit getting Rogue a wedding ring made of the stuff>What is the rest of her powerset from the chronovium?She coats her hands and legs in Chronovium energy so she can freely punch and kick enemies without fear of accidently absorbing stuff she doesn't want on top of giving her basic melee attacks some extra rangeShe can also use it to create a personal shield that dampens and stores damage taken, which she can then unleash in an explosive shoulder bashThen there's the expanding and retracting field of Chronovium energy that she can deploy to pull enemies towards herself
>>152046754She's a straight up villain.X-Men 206: straight up one shot beats the X-Men as part of the brotherhood of evil mutantsX-Men 225-226: more butt locking the X-MenX-Men 248: Longshot has a high octane nightmare fuel dream where she rips out his spine then turns into a Mojo creature who kills SpiralWolverine 51-53: Spiral vs Wolverine and Mystique Xfactor annual 7: Spiral origin story
>>152056756>story, substitute for CarolAh ok. I guess that's ok. But then again you could have Gambit's power conceivably act as something that mixes with her absorption power to where it sucks up energy including gravity thus pulling people in or act as a force field. Whatever. It's not like I play the game so I don't have to see those particle effects.>>152056674Getting to rub all those pits...Hand rubbing me all over...Back rubs, belly rubs, and head rubs...simultaneously.Anyway I had a weird idea for a ship. Imagine Spiral and....Ghost Rider. Johnny or Danny. Probably Johnny with both of them being stuntpeople and having paranormal/dimensional powers.
>>152046754Spiral a...a cute!!!
>>152054852Nocenti and Claremont both never intended her to be Spiral and Claremont wrote several stories with Rita as Mojo's prisoner... Which like UXM 255, Fabian Niceiza never read though he did read UXM #248, which fans misinterpreted as implying she was Rita. But unlike the Psylocke shit, Bob Harras caught this in time and forced Fabian to insert an aside from Spiral that Mojo sent her back in time after transforming her into Spiral.Tom Raney, who drew several pages from the aborted second Longshot mini, stated that Spiral was supposed to be an ex girlfriend of Longshot who had six arms, several of which had to be amputated and replaced with mechanical ones because Longshot selfishly abandoned her to die to save himself during a Mojo verse movie.When Nocenti returned to write Longshot in the flashback X-Men book, she didn't retcon the Niceiza story but gave Spiral several reasons for hating Longshot: he gouged out her eye while trying to kill Mojo, he killed several of Spiral 's friends in several film projects as we found out that Mojo always put Longshot in films where he causes the death of everyone around him in order to save himself, and Spiral ending the issue explicitly stating she hates him for rebelling against Longshot and how his luck power always protects him.
>>152049931GIWTWM
>>152057497>Spiral is JEALOUS of all the smooching Gambit and Rogue are getting up toI bet she's weak to hand holding
>>152057497Me too, and I also want to impregnate her so hard.
>>152057574Post more SpiralPlease
>>152057598I have this one for nowhttps://files.catbox.moe/w37mkj.png
>>152046754>has she ever had any good stories of her owndon't know, but she was a cool villain in the three part beast miniseries
>>152046754Her most recent appearance was in Longshots, but Longshots was lame and gay.
>>152057661That isA big SpiralThank you anon
>>152046754Damn cool, and imo pretty unique, character.She's like Barracuda: Clearly in the villain camp, far from anything close to an anti-hero but still human and with relatable motives enough to not come across as an evil caricature. You could even say she's in some ways sympathetic and understandable, there are lots of people worse than her out there, and with the compensation she's getting some of us would probably consider doing the same. Which again brings us back to the Barracuda comparison; an agreeable asshole.And her slick design and features make her a blessing to almost every panel she features in. She literally needs her own miniseries, preferably some cool dark shit alá the golden 90s edge, Frank Miller style. Look up his 'Ronin' title, have Spiral go on some similar blood-drenched fetch quest/investigation tjroughout the multiverse on behalf of Mojo in that style (K6BD with a "villain" protagonist?). The series might even have her achieve some uncomfortable realizations about her employer... but in the end come to terms with that she (and probably everyone else...) is better off with her continuing to do his dirty work for him.
Don’t know shit about comics, but loved her design back in MVC2 also.
>>152059009multiple limbs just looks cool af, and Spiral's at 50% cooler than almost anyone else in the game
