How strong should Storm be?
>>152047969Strong enough to defeat Frieza
Eternity-tier apparently
>>152047969Does she have a legit goddess inside her now?
>>152047969Low tier cosmic with potential for more hinging on not caring if she destroys weather system or magic enhancement
she is omega-level mutant she is a god
>>152048197Goddess,not god.
Storm shoots her mutant lightning beams into the sky and they work just like chem trails. I am tired of no one talking about it. No one on either side of the aisle is talking about how this mutant (from a democrat run city btw) is shooting her socialist lightning beams into the sky and is turning Japanese children into gay storm-themed mutants. It is fucking sickening.
>>152048302They are putting X-gene in the rain water
>>152047969Depends on where she is. She shouldn't be able to pull something from nothing. Also human durability holds her back a lot. Her weather powers should stick to things recognize as weather. Ewing had her out energy manipulate Vulcan and that is really stupid. Still with all her kit and maybe some magic she could be low cosmic. Still gets stomped by guys like Thor and Black Bolt
>>152047969She's hot.
How does being a mutant give you magical weather powers. That is such a horse shit BS rule breaking of what mutants are. Their powers are based off physical extensions of their own biology. Storm is as mutant as Dr Strange is one.
>>152047969She controls the weather. She's basically every disaster movie rolled into one person.
>>152048574>wanda has hex powers>scott's eye beams are portals to a dimension of concussive force>It'sXgenesIAin'tGottaExplainShit
>>152048579Controlling the weather isn't a mutant ability. Growing claws, healing fast, laser eyes. All mutant powers. Making it snow? Fucking bullshit.
>>152048723Nearly every power is a mutant power. There are mutants that control plants, animals, etc. Weather is just another thing that can be controlled. And if you want some convoluted explanation then there's probably one out there. If you need a time machine to go back to 1975 and complain to Marvel then you'll need to hit up Dr. Doom but he probably won't let you mess with his crush.
>>152048574>>152048723Wha physical extension of biology allows Magneto to control the EM spectrum or Professor X to mentally communicate over long distances and enter the astral plane?
>>152047969she's simultaneously strong and weak. she's an omega level mutant with powers over thermodynamics. she can do lightning and electromagnetism but not as strong as polaris or magneto. she can do cold shit almost as strongly as iceman. she can do air elemental shit which is underrated, and can flybut she doesn't have super strength, or durability, or a healing factor, and is not the fastest flier. she's a powerful generalist that is still basically a human with regular toughness. realistically in any teamfight the villains would go after her first, and she would constantly need protection from direct attacks because she has no defensive powers
>>152047969Omega level mutant. Unless Secret Wars counted as a shoot reboot, she beat Wonder Woman.
>>152048439Her power is to control the weather snd atmosphere of any environment around her. Thsts been her thing since her introduction
>>152048987This. She should be a glass cannon who faints. X-Women and fainting go hand in hand.
>>152048987i forgot to point out, she CAN knife fight, and fog would help with concealment, and if she can electrocute electronic equipment, she might be a good addition to street level team
>>152049039That's why I said it depends on where she is. She has grabbed solar winds while in space.
>>152049039>>152049072I know Classic X-Men retconned her manipulating solar wind, was that just ignored after?
Depends on how hot she currently is.
>>152049081I don't know, I've only seen the same pages of her doing it in the 80s posted over and over again.
>>152047969Strong 8/10 but environment dependentshe can kick your butt outside but is pretty crap underground or on space missions, she can smash structures but if it is secure enough she is useless.Organizations that are space based liked Orchid can just drop shit on her.NERV HQ type bunkers from Evangelion can withstand her attacks. You could also just kill her with a normie and a gun
>>152048179Murewa is trying really hard make it so. The storm book has retconned that she blood related to Oshtur. Previously one of Storm's ancestors was a worshiper of Oshtur and now the claim is that she was actually related, making storm also related even if though thousands of years and countless generations separate them.
>>152049106I think it was ignored, but it’s funny to think people were bitching about it even back then enough to change it
>>152049081Shes been able to do ot recently as well. The infamous black panther putting silver surfer in an armlock issue of FF has her use space weather.
>>152047969Weak to cock
>>152049160>Storm gets a letter informing her that due to recent DNA based genealogy results she's officially the 350 millionth descendent of Oshtur identified
Strong enough to justify it but never strong enough to stop it
>>152048574>>152048620>>152048973You know past a certain point maybe they should just retcon the X-Gene as making you in tune with Marvel's Magic system. Most mutant powers are basically magic as it is, and there's never even the handwave of something like "radiation" or "gamma rays" that Marvel has done for the powers of its other superheroes. Even Wolverine's healing factor is magic if you think about it since he's basically pulling new tissue out of nowhere. Meat from the meat dimension, and such.
>>152047969Strong enough to easily trigger some schizo
>>152047969strong enough to give me boners
>>152047969Glass cannon. Like Magneto she lacks any sort of secondary strength/durability powers so she should not be able to 1v1 anyone on her theoretical level unless she can zone them like it's a fighting game. In a team battle she's a living artillery piece
Obviously high herald tier
>>152051292Shes a high level hand to hand fighter not on par with Shanghai chi but good enough to give a woman considered a danger by wolverine as ass kicking and carve out her heart. >>152050732Its not even a retcon. The xgene does directly tap into all of the forces of the mcu. Cosmic mystical etc etc.
>>152051806Wolverine has been punched through several buildings by a 12 year old girl.
>>152047969I don't know but I feel they put way to much stock into her lightning. Just like how Emma's """diamond"" form has way too much durability for what it canonically is.
>>152047969Fairly strong I reckon
>>152051549not that obvious
>>152051806>Shes a high level hand to hand fighter not on par with Shanghai chi but good enough to give a woman considered a danger by wolverine as ass kicking and carve out her heart.Yes I know but none of that means anything when you're fist fighting people who can punch holes through concreate like it's styrofoam.
>>152047969I don't know but I have learned that Stormfags are some of biggest frauds in powerscaling threads. They will toss out retconned shit, out context, buffed feats, alt universe stuff. and even flat out head canon.
>>152055461>even flat out head canonTo be fair that's X-fags in general
>>152055461Such as?
>>152048331it’s the terrigen bomb all over again
>>152050974This.
>>152055579just google storm vs literally any character
>>152049024Anyone could beat Wonder Woman.
>>152047969She should be a glass cannon and team dependant. The entire idea of X-Men/mutants is that they aren't powerhouses like Thor and Spider-Man could deal with OG5 on his own. Some exceptions are okay, but even as a highly powerful mutant she is just as fragile as human.Thor should be able to do more impossible shit with weather than her, because he works on magic. She should be limited by what is possible to occur naturally. However, should Storm ever get access to any weather magic, she would be a much better user of it due to being intuitively attuned to weather. So, Storm with Thor's powers would be superior to Thor in weather control, both in range and control.
>>152047969The most powerful full superhuman in all superhero fiction.
>>152047969She's far weaker thn Jesus aka THE TRUE GOD
>>152049160Storm is distant relative to Thor and Hercules via Gaea, and maybe distant relative to Scarlet Witch via Chthon.
>>152057404Continuing this >>152051549 is bullshit. Regular Storm, even if we let her have solar winds, wouldn't be a challenge for fucking Silver Surfer in space. X-Men aren't Avengers/Justice League. They aren't independent solo heroes working together to overcome threats no hero can overcome on their own. No X-Man ever, unless something like Phoenix Force is involved, should hold their own against powerhouses individual heroes.The strength of X-Men can be their much better trained cooperation, because that's what they fundamentally rely on. They have that and numbers. But now everyone is Omega Mutant god even when they have no single durability power and one landed punch from Captain America should a KO for anyone with regular human durability
>>152051549okay that seems feasible but silver surfer has the power cosmic. she's talking shit.
>>152057611Exactly, Surfer can survive cosmic environment Storm herself cannot createBut the author was a black supremacist so he also had Black Panther beating Surfer in same story
>>152047969Powerful enough to have the Lightning Sword Of Glazing.
>>152057757>Black Panther beating Surfer in same storyStill mad about the armbar that Surfer got out of easily literally the next pageStop taking on second hand information from outrage posts and actually fucking READ comics you goddamn retard
>>152058355Im not mad or care. I thought it was a good story and is exactly something any physical fighter woukd do.
>>152058355>Surfer got out of easilyThe other herald blasted T'challa. Did you read the comic anon?
>>152047969How powerful are storm?
>>152047969Decently strong against other three-quarters of earth heroes and villains 1v1Struggles against anything sturdier because her weather control is not infallible and she's not physically much stronger or more durable than the other X-men of her body typeBut I know that's not how comic books work, so whatever
>>152047969Strong enough
>>152047969The most easily broken glass of glass cannons.