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Featherweight is a new DC Comics character created for the comic book series Cheetah and Cheshire Rob the Justice League, created by Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott, which saw its sixth and final issue published yesterday. Featherweight, or Alya Raatko, is the daughter of previously established character Nyssa Raatko, who first appeared in Detective Comics #783 in 2003, created by Greg Rucka and Klaus Janson. Twenty-four years later, Greg Rucka is on hand to co-create her daughter. An enemy of Batman, a daughter of Ra's al Ghul and the older half-sister of Talia Ghul, Nyssa Raatko also appeared in the television series Arrow, played by Katrina Law and in the final season of Gotham, played by Jaime Murray. She is the daughter of Ra's al Ghul and a Russian-Jewish peasant woman, born during his travels in Russia in the 18th century. During World War II, Nyssa and her family are sent to a concentration camp, where Nyssa's entire family dies; she survives solely due to her exposure to the Lazarus Pits. Which would indeed make Featherweight the granddaughter of Ra's Al Ghul, as created by Julie Schwartz, Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams in Batman #232 in 1971 and played by Liam Neeson in Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy, Matt Nable in Arrow and Alexander Siddig in Gotham.
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>>152050783
Alya Raatko is first seen arguing with her mother on the phone over just who is or is not a Nazi. Just befor she joins in a protest in which the authorities are responsing with force.
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And then showing off her powers on the streets of Hub City, the DC Comics analogue of East St. Louis or Southern Illinois, home to The Question and Blue Beetle.
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Cheetah And Cheshire Rob The Justice League #2 by Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott
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With Cheshire and Cheetah suitably impressed, as they are looking for muscle for their job.
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>>152050839
Ugh. What did they do to Cheetah?
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>>152050839
Just in case there was any doubt of her heritage, writer Greg Rucka stated "We'll let people do the math there." And she tells us, after being recruited for the heist at the centre of this comic book series, that a) she doesn't like to be called Al and b) her mother went up against Superman.
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Roman rules status?
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bot thread.
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Her power is to be immensely strong, even though her frame is light. And her relationship to grandson of Ra's Al Ghul, Damian Wayne, is brought up.
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Is this another RICH JOHNSTON ARTICLE on BLEEDING COOL? Shit reads like a mix of rehashed company pr announcements and sloppy SEO clickbait.
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>>152050783
I only like trans characters when they have massive cocks they use to fuck their boyfriends desu
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>>152050783
So she’s Damian’s first cousin?
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And can (literally) hold her own against the likes of Solomon Grundy.
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>>152050882
>So she’s Damian’s first cousin?
yeah
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This could be seen as a form of dysphoria, expressed as a superheroic metaphor, but it's a state that Featherweight seems perfectly happy being. And in the final issue, with Klarion expressing interest in her, she lets him know her place on the spectrum.
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>>152050883
>likes of Solomon Grundy.
On a bad day or a good day?
He fluctuates a lot rember
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Why does DC (and Marvel) keep pushing the agenda even though it has never worked in the history of anything?
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>>152050783
mating press, next question?
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> No Father
>Jewish Mother
>winnie trans
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>>152050869
I feel like a kinesthetic version of Lightness Lass' power would be more apropos for a name like Featherweight. Also the outfit isn't selling me at all. Lose the satchel or position it so it's not blocking the feather logo.
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This design looks like somebody asked Grok for trans super hero.
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>>152050912
Because the writers are allowed to and the editors just stopped doing their jobs

>>152050914
Pre or post bottom surgery?
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Bisexual and trans. And that maybe she's a little old for him, Klarion is established these days as being around sixteen (rather than thousands of years old), as well as being from another demonic dimension, so who knows how that works over there. But for now, DC Comics has a new trans character, Featherweight. . And she's the granddaughter of Ra'a Al Ghul, niece of Talia Al Ghul and cousin of Damian Wayne. And co-created by Greg Rucka, she may even turn up in his next DC Comics project, Batwoman. Cheetah and Cheshire Rob the Justice League #6 by Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott was published yesterday by DC Comics.
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Don't let this distract you from the fact that the comic ends with Cheetah finally being uncursed and turning human again.
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>literally just copying and pasting a Bleeding Cool article
Embarrassing
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>>152050783
And DC wonders why they sell less than Marvel.
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>>152050969
>Preaching an American hero intervening on the social and legal climate of a foreign ally to impose our own values
In this fucking climate?
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>>152050783
DC Comics is literally the gayest comic book company on the planet.
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>>152050983
it cant. its set before k.o. and in k.o. she is still cheetah
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>>152050912
In DC’s case, it is because they moved their headquarters to California and hired a Tranny, Arianna Turturro, in charge of their comics (the same person who hired that tranny for the Red Hood comic).
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>>152051033
>>152050983
>DC
>Continuity
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>>152050966
Pre, obviously
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>>152050824
I think the writer of this forgot this is the DC universe and not Marvel. DC is supposed to be more ideal outside of Gotham. Where is Superman during this? You'd think he'd zip in the second a super powered person started punching goverment vehicles into buildings. This this character supposed to be a villain?
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>>152050783
Didn’t DC already have a trans character with Dreamer?
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>>152051133
>I think the writer of this forgot this is the DC universe and not Marvel. DC is supposed to be more ideal outside of Gotham
The DC universe has been Diet Marvel since the New 52. Optimistic DC universe is dead.
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>>152050783
Why didn't she just ask the kid who had a crush on her to actually make her a girl thooooooooo
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>>152051159
Because much of the true trans community get upset at magical gender-bending and consider it an insult. True Trans Representation means being your birth sex and getting surgery.
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>>152050783
I have rich the leech newsposting fatigue.
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>>152050882
First cousin as in their mothers are sisters

But she's the second cousin of Damian's they've introduced, he half blinded the last one.
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>>152050783
I see why Netflix wants to own DC Comics
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>>152050783
Looks like she(?) belongs to the doom patrol.
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>>152050783
>trans
they should be more accurate with the face, the outfit is spot on because this is what twitter trannies dress like
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>>152050866
Every time. They keep pushing the culture war when people could want nothing less
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>>152050783
Isn't this like the 10th tranny superhero they've made?
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>>152051475
Yes but DC Comics needs to keep creating more and more to appeal to Blusky.
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>character has been around for a while now
>only brought up now
People don't read comics here except to get angry at them
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>>152050783
And people wonder why Manga sells more than comics.
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>>152051548
because they make the trans characters in manga attractive?
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>>152050914
>mating press
On a thing incapable of bearing children.
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>>152050824
>>152050839
Oh look the peaceful tranny protester just murdered a bunch of cops and a bunch of innocent bystanders who were in that building.
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>>152050783
>this will surely sell our comic
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>>152051531
>People don't read comics here
I can't see why.
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>>152051133
Okay you're being disingenuous and you know it.
The amount of collateral the average heroes in this universe do is ridiculous.
That said, punching the truck into a building like that in broad daylight during what would likely be work hours? Kinda fucked up. Like you can make the excuse that Clark typically has the ability to tell whether or not the villain he punches through has a person. I heard nothing about super senses here.
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>>152050783
design looks ass
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>>152051499
Bluesky will collapse once people realize a xitter clone that exists solely to own Elon Musk isn't a good business strategy.
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Fuck it, if the trannies can do it then so can I. I'm learning how to draw as we speak, so I can make my own superhero comic. Issue #1:
>SUPERFASCIST
>Hitler's Top Guy!
Release Date TBD
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>>152051680
Make them extraterrestrial Roswell aliens
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>>152051713
There we go, debut plotline. Superfascist has to go to Roswell to kill alien commies who just so happen to look like those coneheads that Yakub hails from
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She is trans? Didnt know that, been reading this and is a good heist comic, hopefully Klaric sticks his dick in her asshole.
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>>152050783
She's now my wife.
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>>152050983
I was fine with her freeing herself from the god, even if the dialogue during the “battle” was hamfisted beyond belief.
Removing the cheetah from Cheetah though? A most heinous crime by the creative team behind this story.
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>>152051742
You couldn't immediately tell from the retard porn addict getup and raging sociopathy?
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i guess it makes sense Ra's has a bunch of kids out there but I don't really like it
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>>152051830
Anon I just thought this was Rucka version of what a Tumblr girl was
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>>152050783
He looks like a fag. Don't care.
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>>152050783
They're still doing this huh
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>>152050783
Good. He'll kill himself off-panel within 5 years.
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>>152051820
It's likely just removing the "has to eat people or be in agony" aspect and retaining a more fluid capability to shift between human-looking and full cheetah form.
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>No, Mom--Mom--Mom! It's not a phase....
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>>152051739
Like these cone heads?
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>>152051891
And those two circles have a 80% overlap.
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>>152052037
>.ru

Ok Ivan, go back to the frontlines
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>>152051648
What even was the protest about.

And can those writers realize the protests are the end all be all of "morally good action". Loke damn they almost have a hard on for it.
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>>152052226
>Ok Ivan, go back to the frontlines
I Just quicky googled that image but will gladly take every google employee who let an russian domain slip through the net with me to the front. Sorry it offended you.
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>>152051979
I want to believe that, but I’m conditioned at this point to expect Marvel and DC to go out of their way to remove things that I like about characters, whether it’s powers, personality, or plot lines.
[Spoiler]I fully expect artists to use this as an excuse to not draw her cheetah form 90% of the time[/spoiler]
I hope that I’m wrong though.
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>>152052370
You can see that she still has spots in the panel after she's humanized again, they are just more subtle. This isn't the first time she's had access to a more normal appearance.
>]I fully expect artists to use this as an excuse to not draw her cheetah form 90% of the time
Eh. 2 out of the last 3 iterations of her feline design have missed for me. She's looked good in the current WW ongoing, where she had the solid yellow look with faint spots instead of the yellow and white with black spots, and where she had long hair instead of no hair at all.

I don't really see what difference it makes if she's still shifting to fight and there could be some cool stuff with the new gold spots in human form.
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>>152051830
Okay so we are all on the same page with her getup.
The cat ears just made it feel hardcore like some kinda e-girl or something. Like she's looking to be "kawaii" or some kinda pet-play kitten.
Yeah I get like "trans colors" but I have never in my life seen an adult woman go that cutesy without it being a sex thing. Especially with the thigh-showing miniskirt and laced boots
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>>152050969
Kinda wild to have a trans character show up and immediately groom a 15 year old.
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>>152050969
>you're a kid but i'd love to fuck you
wow this is some brave and progressive dialogue from a tranny
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>>152051891
I'm starting to feel like this might be Rucka's fetish character.
Petite, quirky, shy, low self-esteem >>152052863
The design. The name. And above all
>>152050869
>>152050810
>>152050783
She keeps doing the anime girl leg thing.
This is someone's fetish.
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>>152053133
Your president fucked kids on Epstein's island. If there was any predatory intent they'd have drawn Featherweight wearing a MAGA hat.
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>>152050983
Who cares, cheetah sucks
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>Rucka
Yeah, that tracks, the male lesbian and his violent antifa son. But why is he making this heckin' wholesome and valid character the offspring of an incredibly evil woman?
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>>152052173
Pretty much, yeah
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>>152050783
>>152050810
>>152050824
>>152050839
>>152050869
Why???
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>>152051531
These comics only exist to piss people off. Not to actually entertain the actual audience for comic books.
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Reminder that Alya got her girl cock sucked by Cheshire, Cheetah, the redhead hag, Lian, and Damian.
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>>152050810
In retrospect, her color scheme being the tranny flag should have made it obvious.
Good lord is that dialogue self indulgent. Call me when these clowns are actually interested in telling stories again.
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>>152050783
>laughs in Talia Al Ghul
Imagine making Damian Wayne seem like a normal Al Ghul grandson.
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>>152050783
Geoff Johns was absolutely in the right to bully Greg Rucka.
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>>152050783
>trans character wears a short schoolgirl skirt you can see up along with thigh highs and a trans flag color scheme
This is a fetish character.
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>prominent adams apple
Even comics they can’t escape it
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The real reason why manga is outdoing comics:
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>>152050783
>>152050810
>Well at least they're drawing the tranny with a manly face
>>152050839
>>152050869
>Oooooh that's just how they draw everyone...
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>>152054387
Jujutsu Kaisen, a fairly popular shonenslop, has a prominent transsexual character in it. The villains in My Hero got mad when someone misgendered their dead supervillain friend.
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>>152054387
At least if manga did this it'd either be a joke character or in a yaoi love story.
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>>152053133
Reminded me of Huntress telling Blue Beetle that in Brave and the Bold.
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>>152050783
They really chose Hub City of all places for this character?
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>>152054360
The only way to debunk it is to confirm post-op.
Most chasers/fetishistd aren't big on fucking a post-op because it destroys the novelty of it all.
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>>152050783
>>152050810
>>152050824
Looks cool
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>>152050783
>first appeared in 2003. Twenty-four years later...
You're a year early mister time traveller. (I guess Rich Johnston, the article writer, didn't proofread anything).
>>152050810
Is it 2016 again?
How much did they spend on this floppy's art?
>>152050839
>the government is wrong because it wants me to stop knocking down buildings
>they said people were like dying or stuff
>heh, I don't consider fascists people
>>152050869
>what's your power?
>I did the super hero wiki randomizer and landed on Mr. Incredible
>>152050969
>Greece is being anti-LGBTQ, I need to stop them
>what about Arabia, China, Iran, Gaza, and...
>I'm blocking you on bluesky
>>152051005
A "white" christian country is being imperialized, not a latinxian one, know the difference
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>>152051595
It's Hub City. They're all scum.
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>>152054446
Good thing I don't read that manga.
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>>152051133
>DC is supposed to be more ideal outside of Gotham.
Bro, it's Hub City.
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>this character is bad
>like all super heroes? Gotcha! Comic books suck! Which is why I'm defending this thing that is a comic book and therefore sux!
Is this how it works in the companies that make these things? Deflection and claiming the product is supposed to be shit?
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>>152054892
They're mediterranean one tho. The first country to have CIA shenanigans really abound was Italy after WWII when Americans feared a social democrat victory due to Mussolini's constant mongering about socialism make italians wonder if it might be worth it because of how much they hated him
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>>152054981
You do know America's relationship with race, right anon?
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>Hub City
>Cops stop protesters with just a water cannon
That's surprisingly tame for Hub cops unless Hub City is no longer as corrupt as it was, I'm only really familiar with the city from the Question 1987. I dunno, I would've expected them to bring out some smoke, tear gas, non-lethal shotties and sticks to break some bones with.
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>>152055090
Yeah I'm American myself. I just made the mistake of looking into history and geopolitics and know the rest of the world's actual perception
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>>152050783
>>152050810
>>152050824
>>152050869
>>152050900
>>152050969
Would.
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>>152050783
A tranny superhero should just be your classic confident femme fatale character but you give her a really obvious bulge in her costume Enormous, even. Third leg.
Yes, I will jack off to it. That's the point of girl superheroes, isn't it?
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>>152055624
the point of girl superheroes is so girls wouldn't feel left out playing superpowers with boys
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>>152055736
maybe that talking point is part of a pitch meeting, but if you look at superhero comic sales I doubt there's many girls buying
men who want to see sexy, powerful women with fat banana hammocks are not being catered to
this is a failure on the industry's part
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>>152055785
so girls shouldn't join boys playtime?
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>>152055824
they just don't really want to
it's reflected in nearly all masculine hobbies
they start catering to women who just aren't there, and they can't pull them in either
I'm not mad about it or anything, but it's just short sighted
they're making comics worse for the dedicated losers who actually buy them, and failing to reach an imaginary audience
I would buy a comic with a hung tranny on the cover though. maybe that makes me a loser. but it does put me on the graph
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>>152055736
>jpg
>boys are girly
>girls are boyish
The funny thing is, you could call both those children trans, and the artist would agree.
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>>152055871
playing with other kids toys makes you trans? by that logic does playing with toy maracas back in kindergarden make me Espanola?
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>>152050783
I like that they gave him troon cat ears and thigh socks like real troons wear.
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>>152051475
If Netflix buys WB, there'll be 100 more.
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>>152055871
now who's to say that they not just simply sharing their toys?
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>hmm, how should I dress my trans character, maybe a nicely designed costume that creates a theme with their powers
>nah, I'll put them in a baggy dysphoria hoodie and everything will be the colors if the trans flag
I don't even dislike trans people for trying to be who they want to be, I dislike them for constantly reusing the same handful of design elements ad nasuem wherever they go, and it's always mtfs
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>>152050869
>tranny character
>power is freakish manly strength
is this a fucking /pol/ parody?
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>>152056002
You not only understand what I'm saying, you're pretending you don't.
It's perfectly fine to depict trans children, anon. Why are you against that?
You'd do better responding with >>152056042 which does a better motte and bailey argument.

Honestly, choosing that picture in the first place I thought you were being ironic, not unironic, as claiming girls require girl representation to do a boy thing wouldn't come from someone who is critical about the existence of gender and normal behavior.
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>>152056097
But it's literally the opposite of "manly" strength dumbass, the emphasis is on her lightweight stature.
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>>152050883
Wait, why is the Question a generic brown chick in a trenchcoat? When did that happen?
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>>152056171
a male crossdresser having surprisingly freakish strength is one of the most classic gags there is. literally punching out a guy hitting on them and the guy says "what a woman!" is some fucking looney tunes shit.
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>>152056171
>strength isn't a male characteristic
>there's been no hard hitting reality check for athletes last year
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>>152056195
That's a fucking reach anon, you're reaching for ammunition to make fun of this but your argument that transwomen can never have super strength because strength = male means you're essentially saying you think wonder woman is manish.
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>>152056159
how did you get trans children from seeing a drawing of kids simply playing with different toys
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>>152056228
Are you saying Wonder woman is manish? That Supergirl reminds you of a guy?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAteKL1RNvA
earthlings are weak
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>>152056194
Who knows
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>>152056243
There we go, that's much better. If you led with that it would make me look like the weirdo and not the person who intentionally went for an image of subverting gender norms whilst arguing that gender norms are why girl supers exist.
You'll get there one day. Just don't show your hand to begin with. Remember to accuse all noticing as schizoid behavior. You could even defend things like OP's comic that way.
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>>152056296
>why girl supers exist.
cause if they don't then it'll be just an all boys club
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>MTF Trans character
>Outfit is e-girl makeup, pink dyed hair and amazon basics thigh highs and a cat ear hoodie
>Entire outfit is the trans flag
There's 3 schools of thought on how to react to featherweight, laughter at how bad this looks, disgust and outrage or arousal with a want to have them drawn hotter in a better art style.
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>>152056389
Forgot that is just a little girl sketch.
No "boy try to dress as girl"
they even made her "short".
And the "little girl has super-strenght" joke is still there.
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>>152056387
Oh? What's wrong with that?
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>>152056389
Which one is "I can't fucking believe this is real".
It's not even the tranny that gets me,
It's tying it to Al Ghuls of all people. You have these people exuding mythical exoticism be it Ra's or any of his daughters and then you have a stereotypical reddit mod.
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>>152056472
Maybe she's adopted.
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>>152056472
Eco terrorism is sooo '90s.
Now Batman has to admit he's complicit in trans genocide if he foils the villain's plot.
It's a natural transition for green protestors.
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>>152050869
Is that klarion?
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>>152051208
I want the conclusion to this scene being damian one shotting her. It'd be hilarious
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>>152050848
Right? It's somehow worse than what WW 1984 did to her.
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>>152056451
who wants a sausagepartyfest all the time?
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>>152050783
Bruh just wanted to draw a femboy
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>>152056274
You know what they should do? Make Rorsach a girl. Yeah. Then have her and Question make out. Hot faceless snogging, man. Yeah.
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>>152053501
>you can only be mad at one pedo at a time
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You think Rucka had his OC (Featherweight) trick Didio's OC (Sideways) into stealing his JL card as petty payback or am I overthinking it?
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>>152056663
Would Rorshach still hate women because of her prostitute mom or hate men because her dad ran out on her?
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>>152051208
>last panel
literal ṣ̌øÿfăĉë
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I think removing the transes from society would be an inherently heroic act.
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>>152050824
IT'S MA'AM
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why would you be trans in the DC universe, they have magic and DNA rewrite tech to literally make you into a girl in an instant.
And don't pretend it's a "upper class things", that guy knows super heroes, he has access to that shit 100%
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>>152056944
Being Batgirl and knowing Bruce Wayne didn’t even get Barbara Gordon out of being crippled
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>>152050810
Wait, Hub City isn't meant to be a shittier version of Detroit?
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>>152056944
And a super terrorist's son is going to definitely have the easiest access to that stuff. It's performative nonsense for the sake of it. It's not like Marvel where the excuse "the world outside your window" which also doesn't work with all the super science bullshit.
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>>152056976
literally yes it did
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No one will read this. No one will buy this. It exists to generate a mildly viewed article on a new site, and for the author to vent their Bluesky opinions.
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>>152050810
>>152050824
Beyond parody.
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>>152050783
the higher echolons of sociology really, really don't want proxy dysphoria to become public knowledge, but i think they're going to have to acknowledge it before the internet gets hold of the idea and runs buckwild with it. tl;dr you can hate people for no practical reason because looking at them literally causes something that is, if not a type of dysphoria, then something with all the same symptoms. tl;dr some bigots may feel the same way looking at the "other" the same way that trannies may feel looking at themselves in a mirror, and this is a huge can of worms.

anyway i'm posting this here instead of some place useful cause i don't want to lose my job and certs and such, but it's been bothering me how big of an open secret this is
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>>152056976
>>152056995
she should've gone to zatana, but somehow didn't even consider that
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>>152056976
that was her stupid choice and then she got better
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>generic super strength
boring as fuck.
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>>152056194
It was during that stupid, awful 52 event that /co/ loves to suck off.
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>>152051499
Why though? Hardly anyone uses Bluesky and those that do just use it to do each another playing oppression olympics. Those types of terminally online, perpetually outraged people don't have the purchasing power to impact sales nor do they have the social capital that had in years past.
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I just don't get the literal flag fetishism. If you want to be a woman, just wear normal women shit. No woman would wear that shit
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>>152050824
>>152050839
Don't worry, OP. It's perfectly ok for a minor to kill random people as long as the comic's writer thinks it's for a good cause.
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Even twittertrannies hate this shit.
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>>152057117
>No woman would wear that shit
Exactly.
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>>152050783
>using the phrase "grown up"
adults use the word "adult"

>trans character
okay cool, but
>destroys pig vehicle
oh okay cool now i'm interested
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>why do they fear us
>just because I kill people with my fist on random burst of rage doesn't make me a monster!!
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>>152057609
still less dangerous and kills fewer people than healthcare CEOs
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>>152057623
what a really weird answer
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>>152057398
Probably because it's ugly as fuck and shows the unappealing Adam's apple.
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>>152054839
Also because post-op are nothing but mutilated genitals
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I thought comics were good now? That's what the one tard who kept spamming Immortal Hulk at me said.
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>>152058759
And you believed him? lol
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I can't wait for trannyism to be exterminated from every corner of hobby culture that it's infested
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Not a huge fan of queer characters being literally color coded. Feels kind of like if you had a black superhero dressed in the panafrica colors at all times.
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>>152053741
because there are no evil women in comics.
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>>152056251
nta but there is a reason they're called WONDER Woman and SUPERgirl
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>>152059014
but twitter queers love that shit.
that's why they all lost their shit when sorta kinda colors appeared around Spidergwen and that CLEARLY proved how trans she was.
these are people who have to have a new flag for every day of the week.
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>>152050783
Seems like a fairly realistic tranny design
>still kinda manly face
>absolutely retarded fashion sense based on anime and porn they consume
>has to wear the flag colors to show how trans they are

All trannies should be forced to spend a year with no porn to avoid people like that existing it’s disturbing, for how much they claim they wanna be women is like they have never seen what clothes a normal woman wears
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>>152059067
>but twitter queers love that shit.
Twitter is mostly bots and gen xers with lead brain dementia
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>>152059359
bots love queer shit
it beeps their boop
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>>152056725
Men……clearly. Say, wasn’t his dad just some John?
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>>152050810
Does the tranny get bbc?
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>>152056981
Nah. It was based on East St. Louis in southern Illinois. Which has always been a hellhole, but is now mostly just a rotting corpse these days. Hub City at least can pretend to be a functioning city.
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>>152050969
>Trans character
>Immediately starts grooming
What did they mean by this?
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>>152050783
I mean, at least it's a new character, and will immediately be forgotten about until they get killed in some random comic event.
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>>152058778
No
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>>152060827
>Trans caracter
>No father
>mother Jewish
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>>152057117
Basically, transgender fashion has to follow the fundamental rules of crossdress/transvestitism, and that's a
more than simply wearing women's clothing. It's not about feminine clothes, it's about feminizing clothes.
The hoodie can obscure the width of your shoulders and parts of the frame. Add a shapewear underneath and the miniskirt can now be used to make your waist-to-hip pop a bit more.
The thigh highs obscure the meat on the calves and accentuate both the shape and whatever skincare routine is on the thighs.
It's why you see them go heavy on goth so often, goth fashion is already designed to be incredibly feminizing.
The prep is like, a shit ton of lotion for shaving, usually getting a girl to do your makeup. Too much the illusion is ruined and you're a drag queen, it has to be done very precisely
It's also a performance. You have to walk a certain way, you have to speak in a murmur-y whispery- kinda fashion to feminize your voice as best you can.
As someone who has done it all of once in my life, it was some of the most mentally taxing shit, a constant mask of practiced mannerism for a performance art that in no way could be maintained on a daily basis.
It's why so many fuck it up. It really is a total performance with a 'character' you have to get into
>>152059129
The ones I've seen who have actually made peace with themselves usually go "long and flowing", long skirts with slip-ons, wool jackets, turtlenecks. Stuff of that nature
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>>152061425
If it's a totally separate taxing performance, doesn't that put lie to the notion that they ARE female. Shouldn't they just be able to act like themselves?
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>>152054360
Yet they wouldn't dare show an upskirt of an actual female character*

*wearing underwear underneath, not a leotard or shorts or w/e
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>>152061425
I'd just be happy if there was a way to hide/eliminate 5 oclock shadow without makeup layered on top. That's so lame. Not a tranny. Just gay.
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So did the creator of Nyssa forget that he himself made her sterile by getting acid dropped in her womb in a concentration camp?
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>>152061488
The constant shaving is one of the worst parts, it's like, you have to lotion after you shave
>>152061446
This is sorta where the whole "gender dysphoria is literally body dysmorphia" part comes in.
Let me be clear in saying this, every transgender I've met who goes for this particular aesthetic. 100% self-fetishizing.

Having done this kinda crossdressing? I'll say this much. There is no way to get it until a girl starts being aggressive with you, calling you pretty, placing her hands on you or running them on you in this kinda possessive manner, smacking your ass, tickling your sides, whispering what she wants to do to you in your ear.
It's this kind of aggressive affection that you don't get as a guy.
Being flirted with or hit on in the context of being feminized causes girls to flirt different. It was genuinely the awkwardest boner I got in my entire life because it was just something I'm not used to and completely threw my brain for a loop. And like, this was not the first time this girl had acted flirtatious with me. She was often a casual flirt with a lot of people, but that time, she just zero'd on me and fried my fucking brain with affection for fun.

That's what they want when they go for thie. It's a validation/affection element to femininity that they're desperate for, the idea that they're girly enough to receive compliments, doting, what have you.
So yeah, it's definitely born of insecurity when they go for this look because they want that kinda validation. The idea that the more feminine they are, they'll get drowned in compliments and affection.
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>>152061490
Damian was grown in a beaker, I assume something similar is in play here
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>>152061970
>Talia raises a healthy male heir trained both by the League of Assassins and Batman to become a perfect warrior
>Nyssa raises a tranny crying about being deadnamed
I can't be the only one who finds this to be hilarious, right?
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>>152050783
>short skirt
>thigh highs
>cat ears hoodie
>all in the trans flag colors
I know it’s been said several times, but making your new trans character a literal twitch streamer femboy stereotype seems kind of offensive.
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>>152053501
the predatory intent is telling the kid thats attracted to him that he'd fuck him if he wasn't a kid but to keep in contact so that way they can fuck when its not illegal
if you don't understand that then you're probably a pedophiles victim or a pedophile playing stupid lol
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>>152053501
>muh Trump
is this, like, a default mode you fly into when someone says anything you don't like?
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>>152051159
Like >>152051199 said.

The reason for it specifically though is that it's for the same reason they cling to "trans as identity" so hard in regards to IRL shit and most of them only focus on surgeries that will backfire on them rather than cosmetic shit that would help them pass, it keeps the majority of them perpetually trapped in between the two points of the gender binary and thus even more unstable and keeps them from having anything resembling healthy coping mechanisms, ensuring that they remain an easily manipulated and easily replaced "other".

This is a huge part of why back in like the 80s you barely had any trannies and they were just seen as "kinda weird", because having a clear end goal they worked towards made them more stable and let them gatekeep better, but the left literally gatecrashed them about a decade ago with an artificial eternal September and this is a huge part of how they keep it going.
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Question for the class:
If a trans character existed and they weren't written to be annoying or existed to pander or be preachy, would you be mad just because they exist?
Not answering the question and seething is not a response btw
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>>152062687
That's a real loaded question. The issue is trying to shove a trans character into the superhero genre & making everything just a soulless soapbox. For one, it needs to make sense in the setting. In a world with actual magic & ridiculous super science, being trans is probably super possible with actual gender transitions. But then that completely makes their activist pandering nature pointless. So secondly they need to be MORE of an actual character beyond their sexual nature.
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>>152050783
Wait a second...
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vibeshiftbros.... i thought woke was dead
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>>152062687
don't a lot of anime and manga have characters like that without it annoying the shit out of everyone?
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>>152050783
Looks like Jon Kent has found a new boyfriend
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>>152050783
>trans character
>wears the flag colors
Did they fuckin' really?
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>>152050783
That is very brave of her and it's important that she opposes the jackbooted nazis in goid ways. Teens today need to have positive role models and I would gladly have them read a story about an everyday girl being a vigilant jackbarefoot nazi.
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>>152062877
yeah but their not created to push a political agenda. It's usually someone's fetish or something.

Alos "Asian trannies" are not the same as western john money trannies. Look at how Thai lady boys mock the western trannies for more proof
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Mental illness. As simple as that.
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>>152062850
T-the pendulum just has a lot of inertia it's gonna start swinging back! Wait two more weeks.
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>>152062742
It's only really a loaded question if you are already biased one way or another. It's a perfectly sensible question either way. You actually gave a good answer though.

>>152062877
The difference is a lot of those characters aren't "trans" but just crossdressing males, which is a difference (even though some people don't think there is, there by justifying Feminist gender theory while at the same time, hating Feminists)
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>>152062687
I don't recall ever seeing anyone fuming at the existence of Lord Fanny in the 90s, but Vertigo is where all the weird queer stuff belonged, not the main line.
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>>152050783
I'm tired. I'm just so tired.
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>>152063111
As an aside, Morrison writing this about Rucka back in the day is funny in hindsight since this was years before he came out as a male lesbian.
>We're thinking about starting up some kind of Sexy triple XXX shemale comic writers XXXX website after this. What d'you reckon? Who could we get? Who would you like to see all dolled up for a night out at Madame Gillespie's? Greg Rucka? Imagine the King of Crime Fiction swinging a dodgy pearl purse and looking for trouble down by the slot machines.
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>>152050992
>STOP NOTICING NOOOOOO
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>>152062934
> justifying Feminist gender theory while at the same time, hating Feminists
see this sounds like the kind of rhetoric that will make your trans character annoying real fast.
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>>152057046
What is blud yapping about?
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>>152056451
They end up doing gay things. Source: THE NAVY
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>>152056725
¿Por que no los dos?
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Paramount needs to buy DC and warner ASAP
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>>152061425
holy yap
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>>152063166
We could've had this thread just fine without the copy pasted Bleeding Cool article man.
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>>152062687
The one in the Immortal Hulk was pretty good and incorporated the commentary pretty well. Xemnu preys on the happiness of youth and childhood and implants false memories to make it so that you associate him with a perfect happy childhood, but can't do that with her because her transitioned body is a reminder of how she wasn't fully happy with herself. He can't just do away with her dysphoria because her current state shows she had it and always creates a fatal contradiction in whatever false perfect memories he implants. That she was only happy with herself into adulthood when she had the autonomy to transition creates a unique commentary that follows an in-story logic without mindlessly preaching and they didn't do the transgender reveal until this arc when it became relevant
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>>152062924
I've heard it described that the pendulum is spinning now.

Like, the moment the PC culture died when the 2024 election results, people went back to being liberal because the symbolism of the victory mattered more than the presidency itself to them. A glorified "SHUT THE FUCK UP" where no one really thought to the consequences
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>>152063830
Have you seen the promotion they're doing for Starfleet Academy? There's no escaping this.
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Why is it always male to female? Why is troonism so big and pushed for males but never females? Why are their so few ftm troons in media? Why does it seem like it's only ever pushed on boys and men?
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>
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>>152050869
>Al Al Ghul
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>>152051548

Nobody tell him.
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>>152063926
>Why is it always male to female
It isn't, that's just what makes people angry so it's what gets talked about. Plastic Man's mini a few years back had him running around with a "boy" who was actually a girl.
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>>152056239
She is. That's the fucking point of her being an amazon. She's from an island where women are raised in traditionally male roles. Are you retarded?
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>>152062850
This comic was published a while ago.
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So is there any fan art of him getting fucked yet?
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>>152050783
I liked the artist but he gives everyone a big nose and cheetah wasn't hot enough.
I liked the story anyways but I though Klarion was old but just looked like a kid
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>>152050969
>casts a spell
>makes her Weiner turn into a vagina
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>>152050869
Oh god they're going to force this thing into Batman comics and use it to attack Bruce aren't they?
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>>152050969
Klaus Nomi
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>>152050783
My god I've been nutting to femboy porn lately and this character is perfect
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>>152062934
It's a question that you asked the average person they'd just outright say no.
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>>152061425
>>152059129
It should be noted that a large percentage of trans men suffer from narcissisim. They don't know what real women wear or act like because essentially they dont believe other humans exist or are not as complex as they are. Further they also believe that only the exterior appearance matters, inside them is nothing.
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>>152065864
I should elaborate. I mean no as in they wouldn't want to read that at all.
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Poor Ra's, all his grandkids are just disappointments.
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>>152051680
I believe in you anon!
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>>152050969
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>152065885
I would say you really see that with the FtMs because they have this weird complex around "redefining" (see: "Fixing") masculinity and the weirdest part is their view of their masculinity is defined almost entirely by what "challenge" rather than anything they actually have in common with cisgendered males.
So like, if a group of cisgendered males do the whole "sit around the bar and playfully talk shit" thing? A transgendered male will say "no my masculinity is better than that because I don't do that."
It's such a fucking "okay you wanna medal or something?" situation because then they don't realize that of course we're not gonna take their holier than thou asses seriously. If we're perfectly comfortable with 'playful shit talk' then they need to shut their fucking mouths on telling us how male friendship "should" work
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>>152050783
>troon's al ghul
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>>152050848
>>152056568
They clown faced her. Jesus Christ look what they did to my girl...
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>>152056159
>trans
>children
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>>152060782
>Hub City at least can pretend to be a functioning city.
No, that's Gotham. Hub City is the biggest shithole in DC.
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>>152050900

Strong and tough but being super petite, ie having so little mass that even normal people can toss you around could be an interesting power set. But no, she also has the power of being so heavy that Grundy can't even budge her an inch when he's straining with all his might while she's not even trying.
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>>152052231
It's the secular version of pilgrimage.
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At least this comic showed me that the Brazilian gator witch exists in the DC universe in some form. I always thought that she was neat.
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>>152050900
>you big bully
kek
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>>152066090
This is awesome. I was trying to decide between a Superman analogue or something more unique. If I make him a Superman, I feel like the obvious thing to do would be to "subvert the subversion" and have what you think would be le evil Superman clone actually be closer to the boyscout interpretation of the character. Have him be a legitimately good person who also kills jews. The other idea was to have him effectively dressed as an SS officer and be an eccentric sort of supe. Very theatrical, very stylish. An aesthete, even.
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>>152050783
Does DC actually do anything except make LGBT characters or turn characters gay?
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>>152068192
Makes them political strawmen or rapes them.
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>>152055192
You made the mistake? Nah man it’s an enlightening experience. Why the fuck should I feel guilty when Great Khan Gilukujuk massacre 1.2 million Chinese people during a casual campaign. Or Duke Hans Von Mitbewonher of the third electorate of Schildkrote decided to boil is peasantry alive. Everyone crying foul and appealing to morality is just taking advantage of the fact that such a society has been fostered when the idea of someone caving a man’s skull if he crosses into your county is bad. Why should I care about what others think when they are just as bad if not worse. There is blood on all of our hands according to the sanctimonious we were born with it. The only difference is they think we should lay down and die.
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>>152068222
>posting this beaner
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>>152068316
anti woke faggots literally don't read the comics or play the vidya they get so up in arms about, they just want to post their favorite ecelebs from twitter
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>>152068333
>anti-woke
Reminder fags like this lurk on /co/ because it’s the closest to an echo chamber they can get.
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>>152068375
This picture was made before hating woketards became a retarded cult of its own.
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>>152068375
Yeah we should really trust the opinion of a guy from Mexico with a username of hayasaka_aryan
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>/co/umblr enters chat
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>>152068394
>became a retarded cult of its own
Ah yes the "muh both sides" cope said exclusively by desperate fags that are incapable of defending their bullshit and have to push a cop out narrative.
>>152068412
>Yeah we should really trust the opinion of a guy from Mexico with a username of hayasaka_aryan
Ad Hominem, if he said 2+2 = 4 would you say he was wrong because he is a mexican?
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>>152050783
HAHAHAHA
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>>152068440
Him lying about his race and larping as a white nationalist does make him untrustworthy. But his exact joke was already made in this thread, what does posting a screenshot of a tweet accomplish?
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>>152068462
>Him lying about his race and larping as a white nationalist does make him untrustworthy
And that has nothing to do with whether he is correct, are logical fallacies all you have?
> But his exact joke was already made in this thread, what does posting a screenshot of a tweet accomplish
I didn't post it. What does you seething about it accomplish?
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>>152050883
Of course she’s drawing a star of david
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>>152063830
I thought Zaslav was going to save DC comic from "the woke"

What happened, anon? Why do you think Paramount will be any different?
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Quê putito más rico, imagina ese culo de puta en lencerïa, listo para que alfas lo preñen, vacïen sus bolas dentro y orinen en su ano de premio por goloza.

Dios mïo, ella es perfecta para abusar y violar entre varios machos, su hueco oloroso y caliente va a estar abierto 24/7 como su boca de puta malcriada, depõsito de semen esperando sacar toda la leche sin condõn.
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>>152069200
santo basado
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Who buys this shit?
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>>152069196
No one ever expected that. DC just needed new leadership after the failure of the Snyderverse & The Flash.
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>>152069200
That’s a man, amigo. You can’t knock up a man.
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>>152069467
You aren't trying hard enough.
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>>152050783
Did someone gas me with internet gas again? This isnt real right?
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>>152066183
>no my masculinity is better than that because I don't do that."

Which itself is masculine competitive social behavior. Everyone lives holding a lot of contradictions in their lives but the transexual thing and hyper progressive stuff holds so many contradictions I dont know how these people can live with. Oh wait high suicide rates...
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>>152057630
i guess i should have said health insurance CEOs
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>>152069494
Just read the comic and stop sperging out.
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>>152063637
he's saying that bigots have dysphoria about another human about made up differences which has nothing to do with them, and is itself a mental illness all it's own
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>>152062687
>If a trans character existed and they weren't written to be annoying or existed to pander or be preachy, would you be mad just because they exist


I dont know if mad is the right word. I'm like a dad who is way past being angry and just sad and disappointed. I dont believe gender exists at all only sex and I think all of society who believes otherwise is wrong. I dont want the idea or concept of it to exist anymore.

But I dont think I'd be mad if we got a trans character who showed how hard it is. Like we see the neo vagina surgery and they start shitting from their vagina or going to the doctor with pubic hairs growing inside of it. Painful daily dilation. If it was real as shit. Or if there were characters who did the operation and went back on it. Or just trans people who believe in it fully. Or just want to be left alone. These people do exist so you can show them...but I dont want the idea to exist... so probably I'd still be mad.
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>>152069546
I'd rather cum up my own ass.
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>>152069553
I'm sleep deprived these people do exist if its shown objectively and from varying sides and belief systems it would be better.

But you can get socially ostracized for being trans and detransitioning. Which is just so fucking cruel. Or saying common sense shit with their own lingo like 'AMAB people shouldn't do contact sports with women'
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>>152062687
>that weren't written to be annoying or preachy
then it's fine

the problem with these characters is that they aren't actually all that thought out, and they have the same problem as other diversity shit. it ignores the fact that there are already diverse characters for most comic book companies, and making a new character is fucking stupid when there's already characters that are established that can be done with

if disney/marvel wanted to focus on black characters, bishop and shard already exist and are hardcore. blade has a lot of potential, but that was fucked up. marvel did stormwank instead. marvel tried to push mosaic for an audience that didn't exist and didn't even have him in a team for while, then he was associated with inhumans and no one gives a shit about inhumans who are even MORE derivative than some x-men titles. how is it that marvel hasn't focused on M/Penance more?

instead of making iceman gay, or 2000s writers having beast claim he was gay, why not go with something that was already established and have beast be bisexual with wonderman and have a girlfriend at the same time?

america chavez was fucking stupid. there are already lesbian characters like mystique and destiny - oh fuck wait, they fucked that up too by making nightcrawler their kid...

see what i mean?

it's really fucking ironic that liberal writers always offer a fucking caricature of trans characters, and it will always be this way so long as online LGBTQIA+ community is constantly overscrutinizing fucking everything
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>>152062909
>american character
>wears the flag colors
Did they fuckin' really?
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>>152069827
Makes sense when his name is Captain America.
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>>152053133
All we need now is a gay furry character as the sidekick
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>>152054069
I'm all for trans rights. Really, I am. But Jesus fuck, why can't anyone write a trans character who is just a person and not a mouthpiece? The closest we got to that was Dreamer in the Supergirl TV show. She wasn't too bad.
>>152055871
That's another thing. Stop trans-ifying everyone. It cheapens people who actually are trans. I watched magical girl cartoons in 1980s Italy like most boys did. I'm not trans. No one I actually know from back then is, either. Kids just like shit and don't attribute gender roles to the shit they like. That's adults. Let kids be kids.
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>>152066108
Tranoids who get upset over shit like this are just criticizing their own community. It's still a terrible design, but they're trying to frame it as a harmful stereotype about appearance, as if nobody dresses that way. It's the same as that idiotic Ikea shark - shooting down claims of astroturfing or just plain cringeworthy behavior a decade ago meant allowing a wound to fester. They're the pink and teal crew, now, and they fought for that.
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>>152051135
Its more like throwing turds at wall and see which one will stock
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>>152068222
>groomer
they barely interacted and it was mostly just being friendly.
Klarion thought he was a real girl anyways.
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>>152069968
>its not pedophilia if someone doesn't know the woman has a penis
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>>152068222
Klarion has been a kid since the 70s. Witch World characters age differently.
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>>152070462
your problem is your schizoid insistence that the country is your "garden" instead of a bunch of people with their own perspectives and situations and their own rights
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>>152070477
>please stop complaining about the woke shit infecting your interests. Just let us colonize your hobby and interests.
You’re why DnD made orcs into Mexicans you disingenuous faggot
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>>152054360
>trans character
>fetish character
It's the same picture
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>>152070462
I'll never understand this stuff. You become a disruption to everyone just trying to do their own thing but instead of understanding that your paint them as your enemy.
Maybe its easier to justify why someone would want you to stop shitting up the place instead of doing any level of introspection that you're being a genuine nuisance and getting in the way.
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>>152070533
>just trying to do their own thing
No one wants your propaganda you dishonest hack
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>>152070557
What was dishonest about it, anon? People get tired of seeing the same shit every hour of every day.
Do you genuinely believe that everyone on this board wants to have every thread derailed with the same content over and over again?
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>>152070533
>I'll never understand this stuff.
because you view a hobby as a place to push political agendas
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>>152051548
>>152051565
they'd also do a magic sex change at the first opportunity to make the character even more attractive
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>>152070577
>People get tired of seeing the same shit every hour of every day.
yeah, everyone's tired of woke shit being pushed into everything
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>>152070590
I absolutely agree. What I don't agree with is making every thread about that.
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>>152070533
>I'll never understand this stuff. You become a disruption to everyone just trying to do their own thing

Holy lack of self awareness Batman!

>but instead of understanding that your paint them as your enemy.

Holy Irony Batman!

>Maybe its easier to justify why someone would want you to stop shitting up the place instead of doing any level of introspection that you're being a genuine nuisance and getting in the way.

Holy projection Batman!
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>>152070603
you don't have to engage with the thread you fucking disingenuous fuck. You can hide the fucking thread or go to a website that doesn't allow people to speak out against this shit

go back if you need a hug box so desperately
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>>152070477
>your problem is your schizoid insistence that the country is your "garden

Anon..... you live in a society. The garddn is society You're rejecting the concept of society.
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>>152050783
whom is this for?
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>>152070639
It's not "for" anyone. It's propaganda to make trannies seem less disgusting then they really are.
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>>152069494
Could he beat safespace and snowflake in a fight?
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Why are you nogs trying to have an argument over gatekeeping on a website where hardly anyone successfully achieved that very thing? Good luck created a closed culture.
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>>152070662
why're you trying to hard to open the gate if it doesn't matter?
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>>152070477
>>152070533
leftists are trying to change the hobby instead of joining it. They're only doing it to push their ideological propaganda, it's nothing but a tool to these people
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Still no hentai pics...lame
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Threads about trannies are the single least productive thing on this website
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do i even need to look at rucka's early life section or what
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>>152070462
No, there's a point to be made.
One of the worst things about SJWs is that they were always handing the keys of the internet over to the very corporations they acted like they hated.
High levels of moderation and political correctness make everything nice and safe for ads to be put on a site without fear of controversy as well as creates a cultural climate in which corporations can use "muh diversity" as a tactic for hiring a bunch of minorities for easy lay off positions in exchange for points with non-profits who can get them tax breaks while still fucking over their core workforce.

That said the current anti-woke landscape isn't better because it's still a situation in which those same companies just have to pander in the opposite direction to get what they want. Think about it, the ads and data collection is more invasive than ever and the "anti-woke" crowd basically validated the data brokering industry when they went all in on the same "accountability" shit the SJWs used in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death.
It's still just a completely astroturfed internet built around a corporate playground for people who only actually care about selling you shit
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So....what is the size of her dick?
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>>152071987
>Her
Anon...
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>>152055871
That’s a truck, not a train anon
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>>152056274
Micheal Jackson??
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>>152072153
>heehee
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>>152063926
People don’t take ftm’s seriously as trans, and mostly just think of them as lesbians
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>>152062924
In accordance with Ockham's Razor, yes.
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>>152062687
>weren't written to be annoying or existed to pander or be preachy
Then how would you know that he's trans?
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>>152063153
Morrison sounds weirdly obsessed dessu
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>bought by Netflix
>homelander tanking superman's punch
>now this
Dckeks...
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>>152072032
Sorry...
So that is the size of the penis?
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>>152050869
>I CAN CALL YOU EDDIE
>AND EDDIE WHEN YOU CALL ME YOU CAN CALL ME AL
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>>152050969
the weirdest thing is that she actually looks female. the people clamoring for this the most (not just the normies that accept it, but the twitter warriors that fight for it) usually don't even remotely past. a lot of them look like absolute shit.
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>>152051565
when a character in manga is a cross dresser (they never actually use the term 'trans', at least not in older manga) the reveal is usually a single joke scene where everyone goes "NANI?!" and then everything instantly snaps back to normal and nobody really mentions it again.

It is not a political thing, it is more of a throwaway joke. Manga/anime culture is very different from Western culture.
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>>152072748
Crossdressers and trans are fundamentally different things.
It doesn’t help anyone to conflate the terms.
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>>152072717
No way, this >>152050824 is an awkward boy's body.
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>>152072717
Super heroes have always been idealized characters, there’s nothing really “weird” about that anon
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>>152072802
It does help.
the problem with "trans characters" in western media is they are nothing but political things and people don't want a political lecture walking around. that's the annoying thing.

In manga, someone shows up who turn out to be a male that looks like a girl, the detail comes and goes, the most you get is the confused boners. Is it a crossdresser, is it a tranny? Who gives a shit. That's the best approach. A character who just happens to be trans. Not a TRANS CHARACTER
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>>152072451
>Doomsday flops
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>>152071859
and how do you pander to anti-woke?
just don't dump politics into everything?
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>>152072944
Or at least do it better. I'm reading silver and bronze age stuff right now and it feels smartly written compared to the stuff they put out these days. And these comics were beating you over the head with ham hands while asking if you got the message yet.
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>>152072944
Have smart, patriotic, respectful to Christianity, & male dominated books with sexy women. Anything that builds men up & motivates them rather than tears them down or tries to replace them for existing.
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>>152072917
A crossdresser isn’t a character who happens to be trans though, that’s the issue.
It’s like pretending serbians and croatians are the same thing
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>>152072983
they don't do that.
>>152071859 is saying they're "pandering" to the anti-woke crowd. which can only mean they're pulling back on the woke lecturing.
It's the absence of it, and this is somehow a bad thing. that we're not getting lectured about how were supposed to think.
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>>152072944
Have you heard of the MAGA movement by any chance
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>>152072992
so you just ignored what I said. huh?

how are you going to explain what your character is without getting into the shit that turns people off about these kinds of characters. apparently you can't just have a girl that turns out to have been a guy with you saying it's not explicit enough
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>>152073002
Well that's how you should do it.
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>>152073003
all the comics preach MAGA now?
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>>152061425
>>152063865
Thanks for reminding me of my post because I forgot to mention something.
You know what outs this as particularly fetish-y in my eyes?
The amount of blush used.
Basically, you can te
>Moderate amounts of makeup used in key strategic places to "feminize" the face.
Cross dress, mostly light contouring with shadow. More explicit makeup like blush ruins the illusion if overused. The best way to do it is to apply makeup akin to how a girl actually does
>Heavy foundation, contouring, prosthetic, and more a lot of more explicit make-up like blush.
Drag. Becoming a parody of a woman's face. Intentionally looking ridiculous
>A bit of contouring w/lots of blush/eye shadow, less tactical application
Sissification. The idea isn't to make them look like a girl but to give them a stereotypically submissive femininity. A "blushing whore" whose down to be wrecked.

Makeup is a very precise art form which is designed for optical illusion. Too much blush, especially on a guy's face, and you can easily ruin the way you contoured with carefully applied shading on top of the makeup. Featherweight's makeup is much more akin to a sissification than what we'd consider feminization of the face because that level of blush can easy ruin the illusion of contouring the cheekbones, nose and jawline. It typically sacrifices illusion to instead project weakness and submission.

Thai ladyboys and Japanese otokonoko for instance, go for the former and try to seem as feminine as possible. In a lot of pre-anime Western "femboy" culture, you saw a lot more of the latter.
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>>152073039
they dont let the Punisher kill druglords anymore XD

Imagine preach to MAGA people.
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>>152073117
so I don't get how they're "pandering to anti-woke people" like >>152071859 implies
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>>152058621
So... accurate representation? What do they want, delusion?
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>>152069827
is the tranny called, Captain Tranny?
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>>152073214
I wasn't.
I was saying that's where a lot of like, the advertising companies and social media platforms and what have you are heading rn.
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>>152073214
because he is a idiot.
the "anti-woke" people are idiots too, but there is no pandering to they.
They normally just enjoy they things, THAN they try to pandering to other people to anoy.
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>majority of /co/ is gay or bi
>still hates trans people

??????
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>>152072983
Remove
>With sexy women
Have you people seriously not paid attention? The same Bush era bible thumpers have literally just come out of the woodwork and co-opted you guys hard.
They're already trying to bring back talks about violent video games. They're already trying to talk about sexy 2D tits corrupting our youth. This is what I mean, there are 2 sides
>Think of the children!
>Think of the women and minorities!
And both want to astroturf fucking everything to their own sensibilities.
One says you can't joke about the 41%, the other says you can't joke about Charlie Kirk. Both have a list of stuff they want completely astroturfed which gives people trying to sell them shit a list of things to flood the internet with to advertise to them.
Maybe "anti-woke" isn't the term but definitely the people who co-opted anti-PC culture
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So, how big is her dick?
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>>152073411
and I'm asking how they could head there. Do you really think they're gonna shove MAGA crap into things.
as opposed to simply leaving shit alone?
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>>152073564
I'm saying this is HOW you pander to the anti-woke. The pearl clutchers you're talking about are just prudes. They exist on both sides. We don't need to worry about them. They aren't the creative types.
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It never takes more than a few minutes on /co/ to remind me why I gave comics and cartoons up.
Just the gayest, most retarded slop imaginable, all the time.
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>>152050783
The only impressive thing would be adding one of those characters with an actual personality instead of degenerate behaviors and emotional volatility.

>>152073478
There's a difference between oldfags capable of intellectual discussion and careless porn consumers who whine when you interrupt their circlejerk.

/co/ has always been full of criticism of lgbtq and other trends because it's a place of honest discussion instead of being forced to follow the opinions of others.
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>>152073478
LGB and T are not the same thing, they aren’t even in the same category of thing.
The grouping only happened as a push to consolidate various groups together in an attempt to have more political power through unionization
See the fag flags that have brown and black stripes on them too lmao
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>>152073564
Marvel and DC aren't making comics defending Charlie Kirk or appealing to bible thumpers
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>>152073571

you like more if is small or big?
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>>152073728
When you consider “being trans” as a degenerate behaviour, you are asking for a standard that you know is impossible to meet without removing all trans people entirely - defeating the purpose. This is why you shouldn’t be pandered to.
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>>152050824
why does “she” have super powers??
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>>152069549
>bad people are genetically bad because they see all le heckin' wholesome chungus' around them as subhuman
Isn't that convenient?
also:
>bigot
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>>152073833
Bigot isn’t really a dogwhistle anon
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>>152073855
Show me a rightoid calling someone a "bigot" unironically
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>>152073728
>honest discussion
lol
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>>152073599
Okay, so it's not even about what they'll shove in as much as what they'll try to stigmatize/censor.
The Bush years were marred by tons of butthurt parents groups who would throw hissyfits when they saw "corrupting" things like DOOM or GTA even if said things weren't aimed at kids.
You know who the worst feminist groups typically are? Weirdly conservative ones who identify as "Christian pro-life feminists". If you need an example, the most infamous one right now was responsible for getting GTA V banned from stores in Australia back in the day and doing the Steam-Visa thing recently.
You know who the villain is? The fucking gerontocracy. When conservatives courted the edgy pro-free speech crowd, they did so while keeping in mind that they'd have to run back to the Evangelical bible thumpers because that group still held a shit ton of influence in their core base. That's a crowd who love censoring anything they personally don't like and creating astroturfed controversies by threatening to boycott stores/channels/services.
If Black Canary's tits make them feel like she has tempted little Timmy to sin, Black Canary's tits gotta go, put her in something modest.
Deadpool curses too much, bad influence on the youth!
The playbook is making companies cave by complaining to those who distribute the product by threatening to boycott them as a whole.
>>152073621
That's fair but we already saw the astroturf to pearl clutching favor. Think about it, when you took a stand on SJWs, did you expect the "pro free speech" politicians to start punishing people for not putting Israeli cock in their mouth or that there'd be shitshows over not dedicating time to memorialize and honor the name Charlie Kirk? Hell no.
So even if that's what you want, it's not what we're getting until we admit that these fuckers are hiding behind "anti-woke" to prioritize their own sensibilities.
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>>152073087
Okay I'm sorry but I gotta do one more because I can't believe I didn't say it.
But the lipstick.
Anyone who has gone full "trap" on the crossdressing even once knows how rookie ass a mistake that is.
You don't go for "popping" lipstick colors because even after you've done the contouring to feminize the jawline, you stay mindful to the illusion and contour the rest bring attention away from that area. When the lipstick is too "pop", it can easily bring attention to the makeup along the jaw and ruin the whole thing.

This. This is why so many fuck-up in terms of looks, no respect for the optical art of it all. Since they view themselves as women they apply the makeup without any respect for the differences in the shape of the face which fucks up because the illusion is built around the shape of the face the makeup is on. It's as much about what you bring attention away from as it is about what you make catch the eye.
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>>152072983
I'm gay and I miss sexy women. They were cool. It might sound retarded but it must be the equivalent of characters with muscles being popular to straight dudes. Like comics, wrestling etc. Also you can't tell me to be proud of mysslf for decades then turn around and make men feel shame for having fucking balls that want to impregnate sexy beautiful women.
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>>152073478
Yeah I hate conversion therapy who would have thought.
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>>152050783
Is there a word for when a character is so on the nose you can't tell whether it's meant to be supportive or mocking?



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