I’ve never been high in my life. Does it really want to make you eat babies?
No being a marxist lefty hippy dippy makes you want to eat babies. The drugs just lower your inhibitions
>>152066165>Does it really want to make you eat babies?No. See image.
In my case, the drugs keep the thoughts of heating babies out of my mind.
>>152066165in case you're serious:the gag is that all popular 60s drugs are being conflated together. things like PCP and LSD could absolutely fuck up your brain until you've done insane things. Weed just makes you relaxed, but it gets lumped in, so.. hence all the 'Reefer Madness' things.The great irony of the 'gateway drug' concept is that marijuana could easily have been the.. GATE drug. "Why would you do crack or smack when you can just do weed?" would have stopped so many in their tracks.
>Swank. 10 times more addictive than marijuana!
>>152066165Watching Mega Babies makes you want to kill and eat them, not drugs
>>152066281Yeah, but the explicit point of criminalizing weed was because they couldn't lock people up for protesting the war, so they used trumped up drug charges instead.
>>152066281Ironically, weed is less harmless now than back when people still thought it was the devil's lettuce. Modern marijuana products are obscenely strong and taking too much will cause schizo fits.
>>152066352No, anon. It's because Hemp would put most businesses out of business back then. Weed being just a party drug wasn't cared about. It's like how we still think a few church marms was able to collapse the MASSIVE alcohol industry... When in reality it was because people were brewing a basically free gas alternative in their backyards.
>>152066295>Gentlemen, to evil!
>>152066352I was told it was about deporting illegal mexicanswhich, i mean, i'm all for. but telling them "if you go here to register your weed, it becomes legal" then arresting them on the way in is patently bullshit.>>152066399Which is still a good thing, because it means you can have less. But there are a lot of people whose brains are not wired up properly for weed, or they're taking other drugs that interfere with it. Friend of mine had to quit, it just made him melt into a puddle like in that PSA. Because he was taking a bunch of other unprescribed shit like adderall, and they conflicted.
>>152066165I miss when drugged up chicks were hot.
>>152066352No, hemp was suggested to be an alternative to wood for various things. Furniture and paper and so on. Timber moguls wanted to keep their money coming in so funded criminalisation.It's only now, decades later, that it's becoming legal. I fully suspect it'll be federally legal by 2050.
>>152066165erowid.org
>>152066165A California cheeseburger! My favorite!
>>152066165There are 4 general classes of psychoactive drugs and each has a totally different kind of high (and side effects)Stimulants like cocaine or amphetamines or Ritalin provide lots of energy and a feeling like any and everything you're doing is intensely interesting and rewarding.Depressants like alcohol, benzos, or xanax slow down CNS function and cause disinhibition, relaxation, and euphoriaOpiates like heroin or opium have an anaesthetic effect and provide an intense level of pleasureHallucinogens reduce the potential required for a new or different neuron pathway to light up, causing effects that range from shifts in perspective to increased sensitivity (like you're doing something for the first time) or slight shifting patterns in textures all the way to full-blown trips and ego death It's not really possible to convey the effects of even a mild hallucinogen like cannabis audiovisually, but that doesn't stop people from trying. They usually wind up pretty close to Reefer Madness or else Alice in Wonderland
>>152066575>Which is still a good thing, because it means you can have less. But there are a lot of people whose brains are not wired up properly for weed, or they're taking other drugs that interfere with it. Friend of mine had to quit, it just made him melt into a puddle like in that PSA. Because he was taking a bunch of other unprescribed shit like adderall, and they conflicted.Yeah, but the sheer strength of pot products exacerbates this problem further because people tend to go massively overboard. US states that legalize weed have a huge uptick in hospitalizations because dipshits keep taking high doses with low tolerance and having mental breakdowns. I do feel for your friend though, I've taken edibles with ADHD meds before. I managed to handle it but it's such a weird and unpleasant high.
>>152066399>>152066460Weed usage can be very very bad for three categories of people, and the strength doesn't matter. Anyone whining that new weed is stronger and that causes problems is an idiot that doesn't understand the basics of titration much less the actual science that's been done.1) children.Children's brains are plenty neuroplastic enough and are trying to lock down effective ways to perceive and process the world and themselves. Frankly being a child is already like being high 24/7. Cannabis arrests mental development in children.2) those with a genetic trigger for schizophrenia.For those that are at high risk of developing schizophrenia cannabis use can cause early development. This is a genetic interaction and has nothing to do with dose.3) those with a genetic disposition to hyperemesisVery little is known about cannabis hyperemesis (vomiting), but for some reason a very very small portion of the population seems to develop extreme nausea and vomiting after ingesting cannabis. Anecdotally the condition seems connected to extremely heavy use for prolonged periods, usually along the lines of years of dabbing concentrates all day.
>>152066851>US states that legalize weed have a huge uptick in hospitalizations because dipshits keep taking high doses with low tolerance and having mental breakdowns.Let's be very clear about two things here: someone being marked down in the ER for "cannabis psychosis" is just a pussy having a bad time in a billing environment that requires a diagnosis that has a reference number, and the uptick in poison control requests is down to dispensaries using irresponsible packaging that mimics candy wrappers.Cannabis is not a wonder drug, it has real side effects and contraindications, but "Weed today is stronger and that's the problem!" is fucking silly.
>>152066165yes. constantly.
>>152066832>It's not really possible to convey the effects of even a mild hallucinogen like cannabis audiovisuallyI feel like this is it what I was thinking for most of the time when I tried shrooms. That there was no way you could explain what this is like to someone who hasn't tried it. I didn't even really hallucinate much of anything, it's just the way it fucks with your mind. I got why they call it a trip cause it certainly felt like a journey
>>152067092I think the best way to describe the lighter hallucinogens like cannabis and shrooms is like this:When sober you see and hear and smell and think s million things a day and you ignore what's unimportant or routine unconsciously. You see the pattern on the floor tiles but your mind filters it out, it's unimportant.Hallucinogens get rid of that filter.
>>152066281My friend spiked my drink with a hit of LSD on my birthday, she said it was going to be a fun time.It wasn't.
>>152067183>Surprising someone with a hit That's fucked. Set and setting kind of require advanced knowledge.Also I bet it was some shitty LSA morning glory extract and not a tab
Trainspotting has a more realistic version of this scenario. Don't do heroin
>>152066165Fuck no. You just feel more relaxed and less focused on anything a bit like the very initial alcohol buzz but much better and it lasts much longer and has none of the bad effects. It's just being very relaxed and happy. You might get a little focused on sounds/music and feel a little dissociated to the point you'll find stoner humor actually funny. If you have a lot more beyond that you can get a greater effect and potentially have limited short term memory for the time. If you have way too much you'll just end up sleeping. It's so much better and safer than booze.
>>152066931You're right about weed psychosis. I've seen it happen and was a temporary victim of it.However, current weed selections from modern dispensers seems to be poisoned. It's not espescially strong. And I've personally never witnissed anyone having a full psychotic break from it or throwing up.But current weed options seems to be causing a host of negative side effects.
>>152067183Never take LSD or a hallucinagen in a place where you feel unsafe unsure or have any form of negative emotion associated with it. And you have to be around people who you can trust. Ideally someone who is experienced and can guide you through it. Your friend is an asshole.
>>152066281>hence all the 'Reefer Madness' thingsThey called this paranoia, then turned around and admitted weed causes schizophrenia.
>>152067278Dispensary weed is rigorously tested, those greenhouses tend to be fucking lousy with mold but anything that's actually growing mold gets processed into concentrates instead of sold as flower.What is definitely fucked, though, is all the mail and gas station hemp-weed and synthetic shit and the nasty vit E cut oil put into cheap knockoff C-Cells on the streets. There's fuck-all in terms of testing or controls and that shit'll kill you.I tried K2 once way back in college, shit was absolutely poison. It was like smoking potpourri.
>>152067301Reefer Madness does not refer to genetic schizophrenia Fucking google it before postingSave yourself from looking like a dumb asshole
Surprised noone has mentioned bathsalts yet.Probably the only available drug that would make you kill your own baby and cannibalise. The kinda things you see on /gif/...
>>152066165Yes, I have repeatedly engaged in cannabis-induced infanticidal anthropophagy.
>>152067017I'm not arguing that people having avoidably bad trips are necessarily victims. A lot of them are just dumbasses that use irresponsibly on purpose. But it only takes a few idiots to spoil the fun for everyone else and weed companies are generally apathetic to this fact, so occasionally you have people using way too much by accident. It's happened to more than one friend of mine.You don't need a family history of schizophrenia to waste people's time at the ER because you've convinced yourself that you're going to fucking die.
>>152067487I don't disagree with most of that, but I remain highly skeptical that potency is the issue - I greened out plenty as a young lad and it's not super pleasant but you very quickly fall asleep.The ER tends to get the buffoonish dad that stole his visiting daughter's brownies and thought he was having a stroke
>>152066460>Hemp would put most businesses out of business back thenPlease explain how, because most of the non-textile or cordage applications of hemp were developed in the past 30 years. Also you need to modify an engine system to run on ethanol and be able to distill it to a high enough proof on a large scale to use it consistently as a gasoline alternative. Fermentation takes about 1-2 weeks then you need to distill it to around 125 proof if you want fuel efficiency. Now assuming we're only aiming for 100 proof (which is about the lowest proof you can use as fuel for a car), starting with a 20 proof wash, and have a collection efficiency of .85 you would need to ferment and distill 59 gallons of mash to fill the gas tank of a Ford Model A.
>>152066165https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELO1PGRjJ4
>>152067584NTAOf course hemp tech was stymied by the cannabis campaignThe claim that it would harm all business is silly but it was absolutely a threat to wood paper.
>>152066165I has an LSD trip where I hallucinated that I was falling into a couch like quicksand. After the trip, my sober friend said that I just looked like a retard on the couch, chewing on a throw pillow. I don't remember chewing on anything. I wouldn't trust an unchaperoned LSD user around guns, knives, balconies, cars, pets, or babies.
>>152066281Except it Is a Gateway drugMost people just smoke weed AND thats it, most people just do it a couple times but people are retarded and they think well i smoked weed and im fine so why not try this other drug that someone offeredIts the same with those gas cannisters kids keep bringing to school they think if i bring weed ill get caught but this shit Is not regulated so i can get high there with my friends without weed AND they end up with brain damagedThink about how stupid you are then think about someone twice as stupid then think about someone twice as stupid as that person that kind of people exist
>>152067673People who do harder drugs usually started with booze or weed. This doesn't mean weed makes people try stronger drugs, it means people who are predisposed to doing hard drugs usually start small. There is no such thing as a gateway drug.
>>152067673>but people are retarded and they think well i smoked weed and im fine so why not try this other drug that someone offeredNo.Cannabis use does have a correlation with harder drug use, which is the justification for this fantasy.In reality this data is easily explained: people that are ok with doing crack aren't going to balk at smoking a joint.
>>152066281Weed still makes you retarded and I'm sick of potheads telling me that cigarettes and alcohol are worse when weed has just as many longterm side effects.
>>152066165>another stealth /pol/ threadPlease get a better hobhy i beg you.
>>152066165>Does it really want to make you eat babies?Of course not.
>>152067673>Except it Is a Gateway drugIf you want to point to an actual gateway drug, it's alcohol. Coke heads hate weed. Junkies hate weed. Speed freaks hate weed. Sure they might have smoked it once, but they disliked it and moved on to harder things.
>>152066165No, in most cases, no, however...if you have an underlying psychosis, it could trigger it.
>>152067733It doesn't but go off queen
>>152067733>weed has just as many longterm side effects.It's not as harmless as stoners say it is, but no, that is not even remotely true. There are quite a few illicit drugs that are less harmful than booze and smokes.
>>152067733Nothing Is a bad as alcohol because that one Is a SOCIAL drug, and has the record for causing accidental deaths (because of widespread use).I don't use any drugs but I've seen the damage alcohol does to the brain.
>>152067673Literally the only reason pot is a gateway drug is because it's illegal, you need black market connections to get your fix which makes it easier to find hard drugs by proxy.
>>152066175Amen
>>152067715>>152067717>>152067768>>152067881i literally provided an example of this maybe you are the extremely stupid people
>>152067611It was not. Hemp paper predates wood paper by about 1900 years but was superseded because of ease and reduced cost to manufacture wood paper. It's a conspiracy theory because it reverses the position of the two products, positing hemp paper as a disruptive technology when in reality wood paper was the disruptive technology.
>>152067733Don't compare a pothead to a guy who has a beer after work or a guy who smokes after sex. A pothead is someone who is high 24/7. A guy drinking 24/7 would be much worse to deal with and then dead of liver failure in a decade or so. A guy smoking 24/7 would die of cancer in a couple of decades. So your take-away should be that weed is indeed a lot less dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes. Even being on caffeine or sugar 24/7 is much more dangerous than being on weed 24/7.
Hippies are bad people pretending to be good.Metalheads are good people pretending to be bad.
Your stereotypical pothead burnouts can be annoying, bit weed is such a nothingburger drug that it's a bit silly to look back, and see the overreaction to it in American media, and think of all those lives fucked up because of possession. Then again, I suppose alcohol was heavily restricted at one point, too.
>>152068113Your example was retarded nonsense. The only true "gateway drug" is prescription painkillers.
>>152067212>>152067296From what I was told, she tried to make up for it by watching me, and made notes of what I was doing. She made sure to put on some calming mood music I like, like Fief or some deep ambiance. Apparently I painted some rather disturbing and strange things while I was out of it, before finishing up and having a conversation with my poster over the merits of living compared to just existing within the current world, then something about arranging my minis in a particular way, before having a conversation with my computer.
>>152066281Weed isn't dangerous, but it has issues. Mainly with dependency. >>152066165Only if you do crazy shit like Bath salts, Psychadelics, or some kind of garbage that would outright kill you.
>>152066165Yes. I am constantly high and I am consuming countless babies. Do you remember how many breads you have had in your life? That's me and eating babies.
>>152066352That and you can talk about weed in schools to kids since stuff like Meth and Heroin is too depressing and fucked up to really show.
>>152066165No, but being Irish does.
>>152066931What about the autistic?
>>152068535>dependencyI mean yeah you can be dependent on weed in the same way you can be 'addicted to porn'like your brain needs fucking pleasure, or relaxation, or whatever, because you're abusing it by spending literally half your day in a state of complete stress that no human has known since the beginning of time, and then barely sleeping. it's the reason drinking culture is so tied to work. you have to be a working man, you have to drink AFTER work. if anyone drinks in the morning, he's like, encroaching.
>>152066931Whether it harms kids or not, no kid NEEDS weed, and if you don't need a drug, you shouldn't take it. just basic 101, don't take aspirin if you don't have a headache. There are people like my goddaughter who genuinely need HUGE amounts of weed, basically mainlining it, to avoid not being in horrible pain all day (she's also on like six other huge drugs). If kids knew more about those people, they would be less likely to feel like they should do it.also if it wasn't taboo, which is why taboos are counterproductive. Nothing should be 'cool because it's forbidden.' under any circumstances. I can't even count how many cartoons have given that message, either on purpose or accidentally.
>>152066165I am starting to believe the schizo theories about mods using image dump bots to promote engagement. I swear I have seen this exact same post 2 times.
>>152067715>People who do harder drugs usually started with booze or weed. This doesn't mean weed makes people try stronger drugs, it means people who are predisposed to doing hard drugs usually start small.>There is no such thing as a gateway drug.Marijuana only functions as a gateway drug because since society condemns all drugs equally, when someone finally tries weed and finds out it's no big deal, they start to question all the anti-drug messaging they got their whole life and figure they lied about everything.Also, the guy who sells you weed probably sells the other stuff and you already have a relationship with him, plus he wants to upsell the more expensive stuff, so 1-2-3.
>>152067733Weed does have long term side effects but no where near as bad as alcohol especially when used in moderation (but the same can be said for alcohol). Moral of the story don’t regularly take shit that fucks with your head unless you want your head to be permanently fucked
>>152068298The difference is that alcohol was prohibited because of public demand from a bunch of cunt wives and cannabis was prohibited because the right wing wanted to fuck over blacks and re-hire whites that had lost their jobs to outsourcing (so they wouldn't riot about said outsourcing)They killed two birds with one stone. No need for manufacturing, just pay the people you like to oppress the people you don't!>>152070210This is what's called a specious argument. It appears to make sense, but has no actual basis in reality. It's the kind of thought you arrive at by starting with a conclusion and working backwards.This line didn't even start as a serious argument, it started as a stand-up bit.
