So why was Cleveland chosen for the spin-off?
>>152066264They wanted the black audience.
>>152066264I think Seth just thought he was a funny character (and a little of >>152066282)
>>152066264they wanted to do another show with the same Family Guy characters dynamic,he was the easier choice for that
>>152066264Joe is shit, Quagmire is(but especially was) one note, who else would even be relevant enough for spinning off?
So why was Cleveland BrownChosen for a spinoff?When this new show was foundAll folks could do was scoff It's boringAnd lost toAmerican DadA rehashOf rehashIncredibly badWhat drugs were in Seth's gutsWhen this show was greenlit?They axed the "black guy" cutThis is a peace of shitHeh heh heh heh
>>152066264he's fun! he has a silly voice and good catch phrases. Errybody loves the Cleveland Brown. He is a terrific blackthlete.>>152066358hardly. Cleveland show knew neither highs nor lows. Plus it had David Lynch.
>>152066264The other options were both one joke characters. One canonically a rapist no less.
>>152066264Black people historically watch shitty tv that caters specifically to black people (see BET, Bill Cosby, any TV Judges that aren’t Judge Judy). So there’s a market for it. This is different than paraplegics, who don’t make up a significant block, and sex offenders, who already had toddlers in tiaras. So Cleveland was the obvious friend of Peter to go with.
>>152066264>>152066289>>152066316He was barely relevant in the first 7 seasons of Family Guy, lowest tier of Peter's friend circle. Joe and Quagmire had more focus episodes than Cleveland, so he was easier to write out off Family Guy without losing anything of value.
>>152066379it also had Kanye West and Ric Flair
>>152066402more reason to make a show about himhe's the most of a blank canvas, and even then they decided to change that we knew about himJoe is pretty defined
>>152066264He’s the easiest and safest choice>has a son and can make a blended family>is black and can attract minorities to watch>isn't a cripple or a rapist>is bland and can inserted into an storyline>can be removed from Family Guy without issue Joe is too much of a joke to be a leading character and it can’t be any of the family members. Meg maybe could’ve had a spinoff going to college but I doubt it would go past one season.
>>152066264Why did they make him Black Peter though? And they had to completety change Cleveland Jr. to justify changing Cleveland's personality.
Was Quagmire originally supposed to have his own show?
>>152066510How would you make a Quagmire show that's not just a non-interactive version of those old Flash cartoons about a bro trying to get laid?
>>152066445>Meg college spin-offI’d definitely be down for it.
/co/'s reaction to Cleveland Show promo picture, early 2008. Everyone thought it was fake.
>>152066572Jeez, I actually remember my friend showing this to me back then. I was always confused about why the Brits weren't in the final show when it actually aired.
>>152066282This, and it largely worked too.
>>152066538It'd just be 22 minutes of her getting spit roasted.
>>152066526ah Frank's Adventure... man I miss Mausland. Those games had CHARM.>>152066618i assume those were kind of a reference to the Jeffersons
>>152066526Honestly, with how Quagmire is written now, they could just make him the straight man for more eccentric characters and maybe have him be more of a flirt with the ladies than the outright rapist stuff they gave him in past seasons.
>>152066526Bojack Horseman
>>152066445>>152066538A Meg spinoff taking place in college could work, but don't think they'd be able to pull it off. Also, Meg leaving the main show would leave a void behind. Although, if it did get cancelled, there would definitely be a lot of jokes around it at Meg's expense, lol.
People always blame Seth, but it was also co-created by Mike Henry and Richard Apple, the former being the voice of Cleveland.
>>152066264Does anyone even remember any episode premises of this show? I never see anyone actually discuss it.
>SpongeBob>The Fairly OddParents>Johnny Test>Phineas and Ferb>The Penguins of Madagascar>Adventure Time>MLP>Regular Show>The Amazing World of GumballKids cartoons that overlapped and outlived Cleveland.
>>152066282and yet blackpeople fuck with american dad much more>>152066642no the fuck it did not
>>152066264I think mostly because Mike Henry (Cleveland's original voice actor and also a Family Guy writer) liked the idea of doing a show.
Still better than Planet Sheen
>>152066839American Dad understands the culture.No I will not elaborate.
It didn't even matter who they picked, they just made Cleveland into Peter anyway.
>>152067003trvthnvkehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN3S2rxol8k
>>152066282>>152066642Nobody who was black watched the fucking Cleveland Show, kek. Even Family Guy lampooned that concept
>>152067037Francine is the hottest mom Seth ever made.
>>152066264because his name is Cleveland Brown and he is very brown.
>>152066264https://www.ign.com/videos/the-cleveland-show-tv-mike-henry-seth-macfarlane-on-the-cleveland-showYou can hear it straight from Seth's mouth why Cleveland was chosen.
>>152066316>who else would even be relevant enough for spinning off?Brian and Stewie
>>152067910I'm surprised they never got one sooner. Those two can definitely carry their own show.
Was just an out-of-touch corporate decision. I feel like if you read comics and watch cartoons you should be more familiar with this kind of coke-brain project. Half of comics have the same problem.
>>152066264The less you know about a character, the more untapped story potential they have.
>>152067944They just don't really need one, nu-FG focuses them much more heavily than classic FG.
>>152067970These are also done for brand expansion. An IP having spinoffs and releasing in multiple different media makes it look more valuable even if they are unwanted and/or suck.
>>152066766I remember the hurricane episode but only because of the gimmick and how American Dad used it better
This is the main thing I remember from The Cleveland Show
>>152066264Because of pic rel.Joe is used too much in the show to be taken away for a spinoff and Quagmire is...well...Quagmire. Cleaveland on the otherhand adds almost nothing to the show as a side character so you don't lose out on gags or setups with him gone in a seperate show.
>>152069081YOURE GOING TO SUMMON HIM
>>152069138https://youtu.be/eUH3TwRNl14?si=Fp9oiQZCx3UO_nsc&t=142
>>152066264The other choices were a cripple or a rapist which they didn't need a rapist show because they already had the white male audience
>>152069081Rallo was the only character besides David Lynch that could actually be funny
Did you know? The entirety of Cleveland Show aired between Brawl and 4. It was a late-Gen 7 of vidya cartoon. By the time it ended, PS4 and Xbox One still weren't released.
>>152066264> Never the guy> Never drew a dime> Never had a good episode before 2005 and even then was overshadowed by vastly superior characters like Joe and Adam West> Never cut a memorable promo> Never put anyone over> Never had the popularity to get more episodes despite FOX making millions a year> Main evented Seth MacFarlane's least favorite Family Guy episode> Tanked the viewer rate of Cleveland Show so hard that MacFarlane quit the animation industry and focused solely on live-action> Was barely ever in the Family Guy picture because he was never a big enough deal> Only the 3th best member of Peter's friends> Only the 21th best charcter in Family Guy history> His role was utterly BTFO by Jerome and achieved nothing notable when he was gone> His voice is cringeworthy> His characterization is cringeworthy since they turned him into black Peter> Unironically calls himself "The Brown Knight"> Shit skin> Failed at his debut so badly that Quagmire became Peter's best friend>Got cucked by his first wife and later marrried an abusive wife who hits him all the time> Is the cartoon equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre middle manager whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is staying in the same shitty job for 20 years> Drew so poorly in his spinoff that Bob's Burgers of all thing had to take the spotlight from him>Spent the latter part of his existence buried by superior characters> The biggest impact he had on the business was his voice actor quitting his job since he wasn't black enough to voice him, starting the BLM moment of voice acting
>>152066264I remember seeing the promo they did before the show aired where Peter and Cleveland were introducing the premise, and they even sounded bored then.
>>152066264
>>152070434Post it
I believe of all the characters, Joe Swanson has the most believable spinoff. Especially if they went back to the earlier seasons where he's a useful officer and super capable. I feel like there needs to be a cop comedy show to keep the rest of the drama ones in check.
>>152069138>Joe is used too much in the show to be taken awayThe only joke they use Joe for isn't funny.
>>152067910How would it be different from the original FG?
>>152070951It won’t.
>>152066572>LOL BEARS!!! SO RANDUM!this is still true>ITT: MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FAILi'm loling rn
>>152066442You never watched the Joe Show? Okay.
>>152069081Its funny Stewie never hangs out with Rallo. Rallo is the Scrappy Doo of this series.
>>152066657I was already down for it anon, you don't have to keep convincing me.
>>152072172He will never speak again since he was voiced by a white guy.
>>152066264Because he's black
>>152070951It would just be an entire series of the Road To episodes.
>>152066445I'd do a spin-off prequel about Tom Tucker and the news crew working in another town. Make it a parody of workplace comedies like The Office or Community or something
>>152070329> Failed at his debut so badly that Quagmire became Peter's best friendCleveland always seemed like a closer friend to Peter compared to Quagmire and Joe.
>>152066264who else could they do?
>>152066264Cleveland had a show though.
>>152066264You think Seth regrets The Cleveland Show?
>>152078460He didn't even want to do voice acting anymore for it.
>>152078460Everybody regrets The Cleveland Show. Even the people who watched it regrets The Cleveland Show.
>>152067910How do you spin them off? That would mean they'd have to leave the household somehow
>>152079191separate series about stewie and brian travelling through timewhen they get back it's at the exact moment they left so it's as if they were never gone and other characters wouldn't have to wonder where they went
>>152066264His personality is generic and relatable enough. Quagmire and Joe are bit characters.Plus, endless Black jokes.
>>152070951>How would it be different from the original FG?Stewie and Brian would be a Rick and Morty type show. The problem is it would steal plotlines from normal Family Guy.
>>152067910>>152067944or you could just have more episodes focusing on them
>>152066572>if this ever gets aired, I will shoot Seth Mcfarlane. That's a promise.As usual promises mean nothing, I at least hope that anon is working on a time machine to make things right.
>>152066572>Not airing until fall of 2009...>LONG AWAY WHO GIVES A FUCK
>>152066264Boring af. It's just Family Guy with black people. And Cleveland is the most boring unfunny character in the show. This was a tax write-off. No one asked for this spin-off.
>>152080582it was. Time passed normally back then. Something broke in the retrocausal machine around 2012
>>1520665724chan during 2008 sounds like a good time... I want to go back.
>>152066264Seth wanted to show he wasn't racist. That's itRemember when Brain had a black roommate and they both pulled guns on each other after the OJ verdict?Bunch of black people noticed all the racist jokes about them and called him a racist.The Cleveland show was his attempt at beating those allegations
>>152066316I'd make a spinoff about the greased up deaf guy
>>152066394>BET = Black MTV>Cleveland Show = Black Family Guy>Fat Albert & Cosby Kids = Black Little Rascals>Bounce = The poor man's version of BET>Kid Power = Black Peanuts>Boondocks = Black DBZ>I Don't Want To Be A Magical Girl = Black PreCure>Invisible Fight Girl = Black Kill La Kill>The Wiz = Black Wizard Of Oz>Shark Tale = Black Finding Emo>Family Matters = Black Full HouseIt's called "nigslop" for a reason. Raceswapping & plagiarism that is in black entertainment is huge. All they do is steal ideas & then make the characters black because of their in-group bias. They steal music & beats from talented musicians to make R&B & rap music. Their entertainment is full of ideas stolen from people who are more talented than they are. The moment I saw their TV shows were full of stereotypes of nonblack people, I stopped watching & listening to their slop.
>>152081283Most people copy/steal ideas from other people. Half of Japanese media blatantly rips off of western media. But you're saying it's bad when black people do it?
>>152081283So what is Black Frozen?
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>>152066572this was back when everyone thought they were enlightened because Drumpfenparken told them to hate Family Guy/Seth
Why did cleveland even have to leave family guy? Couldn't they have just said it was an alternate universe or time period, and kept him in both shows?
>>152082038They'd have to pay Mike Henry to appear in both shows and I'm sure at this point he was expensive.
>>152081283>Boondocks = Black DBZNo, in it's content it was more of a Black Doonesbury
>>152081816People hated Family Guy (and American Dad when the early seasons sucked) before Cartoon Wars you silly retard
>>152066264Mike Henry really wanted a show of his own and Fox was looking for something cheap to fill a time slot.
