What exactly does a comic book editor do?
>>152072536say what's good and what isn't?
Proofreading, make sure characters and story are consistent, insert references to other comics that are being referenced, promote other comics. Some of those might be the writer pretending to be the editor.
>>152072536Someone's gotta count all that money (there was not actually any money).
In narrative, they are only useful in shared universes, like Marvel or DC. Independent comics shouldn't have their influence.
>>152072848They do a shit job at proofreading and consistency.
>>152072536We put this hippies in line!
>>152073302They hated him because he told the truth.
Editors are tard wranglers who need to keep pencilers in line.This was a more prominent aspect of being an editor in the 90s when some of them had the scarce but recursive tendency to ignore the writers' script.Remember, making a comic book in a timely mannor is crew effort.
What does the editor do?Well, let me tell ya...https://files.catbox.moe/iifp6t.mp3
>>152073192because they hire a bunch od women to the job
They send out the no prizes.
>>152072848>Proofreading, make sure characters and story are consistentok, new question, what does a Marvel editor do?
>>152073160>In narrative, they are only useful in shared universesmanga would say otherwise.
>>152072536Looking at Brevoort's history and Lowe's history, they were literally just college kids hired as interns and became editors eventually. I guess that's why they have zero creativity and just got what they wanted eventually and barely try anymore.Yoshida at least worked at Central Park Media I guess. Seems like he actually got an eye on how a print and TV media company was run outside of Marvel. But yeah he doesn't really do anything from the looks of it.
>>152075176How does Jim Lee do it? Does he wrangle that well or is do DC's editors just happen to handle things decently well compared to the Didio days?
>>152074221Do interviews where they hype current releases as the best thing ever.
Edit comic books
>>152075213I dunno. DC still had that tranny make fun of Kirk's death and Mark Waid is still there. I think TDS still happens but maybe Jim behind the scenes alongside WB brass probably are dealing with enough shit as it is with their company potentially getting bought out and wasn't doing great for a while, so I think they have nore desire and need to tardwrangle. Jim probably has shit writing taste but he at least seems to show that his decisions are being made in a logical sense that is not always the best decision. Putting Waid on that history book and him getting older is also probably why I haven't heard anything like him flailing on the ground because of Trump lately. Marvel is just insane and full of apathetic people propped up by Disney. Like I don't care about Kirk nd I'm not gonna get mad if anons wish death upon anybody but if you're public facing then wishing death on even somebody like Osama is best just left to comedians who can do cartoonish sound effects of them being shot or blown up, lessening the "tough guy/righteous indignation" that prideful and egotistical people can sound like when they wish death upon people who deserve it. I dunno much about Kirk like his stances except he liked Israel money coming to him.
>>152073160>In narrative, they are only useful in shared universes, like Marvel or DC. Independent comics shouldn't have their influence.Huh? All professionally published books have editors, even stand alone books/comics written by one guy have editors. Even comic strips have editors. The only medium of literature/comics not to have editors are one man webcomics/fanfics and well...they have their issues most of the time. Editors usually are there to catch things author's wouldn't, not only narrative stuff like characterization, keeping things clear or internal consistency but basic stuff like spelling, formating, keeping up with the deadline.
>>152075489I didn't even know that happened. It's not a good look but at the same time, that's the most /pol/ centric take I've seen about the editors. I expected more talk about the quality of the writing or how they've handled events like KO or Rebirth.
Tard wrangling
>>152075213He's there for prestige and to have a star artist on board. He just chills draws what he wants does mountains of blow and mountains of consluts.
>>152075213Jim Lee doesn't do shit man. I imagine he's just nonconfrontational and just says "yeah that's cool" to stuff.
>>152075489Waid is there mainly because when he gets his rage issues under control and he's on, he can do a book that people want to buy. (Case in point: World's Finest did better than a lot of DC's other comics for a while). Plus there is a suspicion I have that DC Studios does want to adapt some stuff that he's done.
>>152072536In the case of stan lee, phone it in, steal credit and checks, whore the IP to hollywood, and doing the secretary. >>152073302Best editor Marvel ever had and the guy who put them on the map.
>>152073160I don't think you understand what a regular editor does
>>152075639They shoot down ideas and oppress the creatives.
>>152075543Well I mean it's not my entire take. But I can't say as much because I haven't read DC/KO. But Rebirth I think is easier to explain because DC ever since COIE has had to deal with what is carried over and what is the new history for each new multiverse/status quo. That makes it more mandatory for the editors to actually interact with writers more. Marvel just has no care about continuity anymore on a moment to moment basis. That's probably because they wanted to just focus on events but not worry about the fallout of events as much. They just want their writers to make up some clickbait pitch for a book like Superior Spider-Man (probably one of the ones they think is exemplary of what they want) and then just leave the writer to keep it going and step in to prevent stuff from going against their mandates like OMD being undone or rape happening or too much gore. They have to make tie-ins but notice how the events and how they effect characters rarely matters unless they get a writer who sees it as an opportunity to institute their dumb pitch. No writing about the status quo for the entire 616 being affected is done or "how characters remember 2 events ago this thing happened and that still matters" which is something that has barely even happened or made these characters feel real like using previous knowledge to get through something happening now.
>>152075665No, a regular editor, not a Big 2 editor
>>152075666I know people dislike Hickman and he's had his share of odd runs, but I wonder why Marvel keeps getting in his way so often. He wants to sit in his little worldbuilding chair and get good building blocks for other people to work with, but every time he wants to close it out or keep going, editorial gets in his way. His image work was fun, but seeing how X-Men and Spiderman get mismanaged makes me kind of sad.
>>152075766Well considering he made sales happen, that's the instant that they will start meddling. Secret Wars 2015 was probably Marvel waffling between what the status quo would be.
>>152073614They also give assignments, generally check in and guarantee the workflow of tasks. It's a pretty big task being the editor of a large publication.
>>152075526Even at indie publications where the editorial likely has a softer touch in regards to output they editors usually are the one's choosing what to publish.Fantagraphics without Gary Growth would have been a completely different beast.
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>>152073614>This was a more prominent aspect of being an editor in the 90s when some of them had the scarce but recursive tendency to ignore the writers' script.The only example I've ever heard of with this happening was a Warren Ellis script, so it was probably an improvement anyway.
>>152072848Historically all this, along with being aware of what the writer's short term and long term plans are on a book, and being able to just shoot down bad ideas or plots that would cause permanent damage to characters.They also have the job of wrangling the creative team to make sure everyone meets their deadlines and the books get published on time. This is one of the few things they still do, the only other thing is just putting a book's creative team together in the first place, and that seems to involve a new book first getting offered to any star writers on exclusive contracts, and then an editor probably just offers the job to one of his friends. The days when Marvel and DC editors considered themselves custodians of the characters and felt a duty to protect them from the at times insane or depraved whims of the writers are long over.
>>152075636>In the case of stan lee, phone it in, steal credit and checks, whore the IP to hollywood, and doing the secretary.Stan Lee was an all-American hero
>>152072536One of the most important things in the world. Tard wrangling, sadly a good tard wrangler is hard to come by.
>>152076623>give shit for other people to do>walk in and talk for a bit and see if they are doing their work>read comics and ignore all the errors between writers of different books>clock out while the letterers pull all-nighters Oh my god...those poor editors. Literal slave labor. Marvel give them bonuses and raises. They are being worked to death and literally die in their 40's and 50's because of the stress put on their hearts. All those sleepless nights of making sure to ignore all the typos on those pages and coloring errors...Nick Lowe....I misjudged you...you are the hardest working comic professional out there....Brevoort...your blog is so important...
>>152078088I agree with your sentiment and even I think you're being a wanker
>>152078135Well that's kinda the point. I'm having a laugh because editors were hardworking and dilligent people at Marvel for a long time. Yeah I bet it is still a hard job. But when you see what they put out, I don't mind posting an anonymous post taking the piss out of someone who thinks being an editor is as hard as the people who have to actually produce what is being edited.Yeah it's hard to tell someone their work is shit in some aspects, it's hard to go through that much material and form opinions that will add entertainment value. But it has been so consistently shit for so long that I don't mind being a jerk in a place they probably don't look at.Look at how they treat their fans and any criticism no matter how well-reasoned or softball a question it is, you still get the corpo-answer that doesn't solve anything and now we're at the precipice of comic stores going under because the thing propping them up is making one retarded decision after another, failing to get with the times or can't because of retarded decisions long ago.
>>152077102Steal credit, mostly.Stan and Mort WeisingerOn the other hand, Julius Schwartz was the real deal.DC took him off their SF line and moved him to Batman.Strange Adventures and Mystery in Space immediately went to shit without him,
>>152072536Edits comix, duh
>>152073160I will literally never put out any sort of written fiction without a neutral source giving it a read and tell me if it sucks or not. Also the original Image books didn’t have editors (Spawn’s editor was literally Todd’s wife till she was grossed out by the Billy Kincaid issue) and look how those turned out
>>152073623>>152076750Have the other songs?
