Why do stop motion films always tend to be expensive flops?
>>152121423Because big normie is lobotomy teir.Three of those are some of my favorite movies, and that's only because I haven't seen the other 2 yet.
>>152121423Coraline made money cause Coraline is a girl main character, which brought in girls.
>>152121423Niche appeal
>>152121423Normies dont really vibe with it. I thought coraline was successful?
>>152121423Be glad that the medium is niche. If it had mass appeal it'd be swamped with garbage instead of art films, and then it'd all congeal around one safe artstyle like CG and 2D cartoons did.
>>152121553>and then it'd all congeal around one safe artstyleNo one wants to say it, but the Aardman style is basically this. Imagine if this was everywhere.
>>152121590That's the thing though, every filmmaker has their own style, meanwhile in the mainstream if you deviate from GrubHub or Steven Universe you hear>WRONG! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ANIMATION PIPELINE!and it gets shut down
>>152121423> Why do stop motion films always tend to be expensive flops?Movie-goers these days want a movie to feel "big." Zootopia feels big because of it is set in a big city and has vistas looking over the city. Stop motion is a niche genre, and feels very "small." The scenes in stop motion are usually small and feels more like a puppet show or a play than a cinematic experience.
>>152121423Does Laika even have good marketing budgets?
>>152121713They literally have Nike shoes funding them.
>>152121423Paranorman probably looked too scary, Kubo didn't look like it had enough humor, Boxtrolls doesn't have an appealing main character, and Frankenweenie (not Laika I know) is like the only animated kids movie I've seen with no color.
>>152121423Coraline did really well at the box office considering that it lost a lot of its 3D screenings early on thanks to a Jonas Brothers movie.
>>152121423Because they're more expensive to make. You're about a type of animation that has limitations. You can't just draw the scenes digitally like you would with cartoons or 3D. You're talking about a medium where each frame has to be a photograph of a scene, where each scene requires lighting & practical effects, where each object has to be hand-crafted. It's labor intensive & requires alot of time & patience. The characters are usually puppets or figurines. And the props required for each scene also requires work. That does not include the time used for editing or fixing any mistakes. Big studios that do stop motion work in warehouses where some scenes take up 1/3rd of the space. There are also supplies, such as material used to create props. All of that adds up & it requires a team of people just to make it happen. It's the reason why it's so expensive.
>>152121449Coraline did well because it's based off the book that did well.
>>152121452>nose ring>tattoosWhoever thought this was a good character design should never be allowed to work in the industry ever again.
>>152121452It's a shame that, from concept to final product, they erased so much from this character that you can't really tell she's supposed to be Frankenstein's Monster.
>>152122182Most people didn’t know it was based on a book. Even now most people are ignorant to Gaiman’s hands.
>>152121423WE’RE PROUD TO PRESENT ON THE STUDIO NIKEANOTHER BAD MOVIE THAT NO ONE WILL SEEEEEE!
>>152121449>>152122182Coraline did well because people thought it was a Tim Burton movie with all the ads going "From the Director of Nightmare Before Christmas"
I had high hopes for this, but the latest update says they've taken it to Hollywood. It's gonna be turned to slop for mass market appeal
Because a cool gimmick isn't a substitute for shitty writing and characters. They made one good movie.
>>152122326The movies aren't bad, though.
>>152122466Not all of them are good, though. LAIKA's track record isn't perfect.
>>152121450Not really, they're all PG family films and gradually stepped away from the horror genre with each successive film
>>152122466Kubo sucked.
>>152121742Based
>>152122196Please don't insult my daughter like that.>>152121742Honestly based. Billionaires spending their vast wealth on art is one of the most morally virtuous things they can do with it.>>152122466Missing Link was mid.Boxtrolls was genuinely terrible. Maybe the only thing you can defend in that movie is the villain.
Junk World's coming out this month, all because the first movie actually was a reasonable success. Took a long time to get made from a short film, but it can be done.
>>152121423because animation (that isnt anime) is for children
Just gonna post cool stop motion stuff I thought went under the radarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJWESOeKHjQ&pp=ygUIYm9iIHNwaXQ%3D
>>152123924>Those character designshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8sUC-dsW8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZhh3Wp_odEThis one has a goofy premise but I think it might have the most technically impressive and fluid stop motion I've ever seen in a movie. It gives laika a run for its money, and its in service of a big cop movie shitpost.
>>152122466The only good films they've produced are Coraline and Paranorman.Box trolls is garbageKubo ruins an otherwise good film with it's shit endingMissing Link is pointless filler.
https://www.youtube.com/@TheLoneAnimator/videosThis guy puts out stop motion shorts pretty regularly, they're pretty fun creature features
>>152122158Eyup. Most of this is lost on average /co/ posters.
>>152121423>Laika>Aardman >Adam ElliotThe entire industry is literally just these 3, and Adam only makes like one film a decade.
>>152121423Where the fuck is laikas next movie lads? Their last one was literally before the pandemic ruined everything
