You guys still enjoy this movie? I cant think of any big problems other than Gwen going to miles school for no reason and the spider-cave being retarded as a concept
>>152153100Off the top of my head, there were several problems: Trying to depict graffiti-making as something that isn't utterly abhorrent and evil, pushing BMWF relationships, pushing the laughable idea that Miles can ever be Spider-man and replace Peter, Miles having several superpowers that aren't related to spiders in addition to the regular spider powers for no reason while the alt-universe spider-men lack those same powers. It was on okay movie for what it is, mostly carried by the artstyle and the writing being acceptable instead of horrifically bad like it nowadays normally is in most superhero projects.
>>152153644honestly if it weren’t for the politics involved I’d consider the movie near-perfectThe fact that it’s so good even despite them is a testament to how talented the animation team working on it was
>>152153100Miles is fucking boring. I watch Spidey media for Peter Parker, not some diversity hire. Hell, Peter B. Parker has an even more interesting storyline than Miles in these very movies.
>>152153100I loved it when it came out, had so many allusions to spider-mythos that it made it genuinely excited to watch
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>>152153100I think it's a lot more fun when you have a few variants pf Spiderman rather than a whole universe.
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>>152153100Into is still greatAcross is way too full of himself and it character assassinates the entire Spider-Man franchise solely to prop up Miles
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>>152153100Where the fuck was this guy in the second movie?
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>>152153644>GraffitiThat's a bit Arson, Murder and Jaywalking... And brightening up uncared for areas (or artists being asked and authorised to make boring cared-for walls nice) can be a net positive. Obviously not the "Chad waz 'ere"/tagging, but Miles clearly is more artistic than that and the worst public 'tagging' he does is those itty-bitty stickers...> pushing BMWF relationships,Seriously?> pushing the laughable idea that Miles can ever be Spider-man and replace Peter,He's a spiderman (...a spiderman, and can do anything a spiderman can) and he's dealing with things that Peter can't do now. (Unless you're being a Miguelist about his part in that, there's no argument.)>. Miles having several superpowers that aren't related to spiders in addition to the regular spider powers for no reason while the alt-universe spider-men lack those same powers.General inter-reality differences aside (all those other spiderpeople with all those other gimmics), he was bitten by a mechaspider plucked across from Earth-42's reality, physically unstable outside of its normal existence. Maybe that added the couple of extra 'non-spiderman' elements to his powerset. Or maybe that's the powerset that 42-Miles would have had, if Kingpin's plans hadn't inadvertently wrenched it away to find 1610B-Miles instead.Can't stop your own headcanon being aimed wherever you like, but it's clearly not pointing anywhere near where mine is.
>>152153100The movie would have been significantly better if they cut the cast down to just Miles and Peter. The rest are just fluff and don't add anything to the movie. Gwen especially adds absolutely nothing because her whole importance ties to Peter's history which the movie doesn't want to go into
>>152155322>That's a bit Arson, Murder and Jaywalking... And brightening up uncared for areas (or artists being asked and authorised to make boring cared-for walls nice) can be a net positive. Obviously not the "Chad waz 'ere"/tagging, but Miles clearly is more artistic than that and the worst public 'tagging' he does is those itty-bitty stickers...The quality doesn't matter, if it isn't yours and you don't have permission (which they clearly didn't have) then you are scum. The reason I didn't go harder on this point is that the graffiti only comes up at the beginning and it's something that villainous character teaches Miles. Since he doesn't go back to being a vandal at the end (as far as I remember) you could argue that the movie isn't actually pro-graffiti, but it still feel like it tries to portray petty vandalism as a positive aspect of black culture.>Seriously?Which part you take issue with? It being a thing in the movie, it being a thing in the industry as a whole, or it being a problem?>He's a spiderman (...a spiderman, and can do anything a spiderman can) and he's dealing with things that Peter can't do now.My complaint about about Miles being Spider-man was more of a meta complaint about Disney pushing really hard this idea that Miles is The Spider-man just as much as Peter is, when everyone with a brain understands that Peter will always be The Spider-man. But it doesn't really make sense in-universe either since there are spider-people who aren't called Spider-man and his own universe already had a person called Spider-man, so him stealing the identity just doesn't sit right with me. So it would have made far more sense for him to make up his own spider name instead.One small nitpick that occurred to me is that his last name is Morales when it's his mother that's hispanic and his dad who is black, and no explanation is given why he (presumably) has his mother's last name. I assume it has to do with representation/feminism nonsense.
