They jumped the shark
Any alternative comic for me that is the antithesis of everything beneath the trees where nobody sees? I want a comic without deaths, without violence, without blood and without any gore or terror
>>152155181Here you go, bud.
>>152155237Can't be the antithesis, it still has bears.
>>152155293What's the opposite of a bear?
>>152155316A reab. A rabbi?
>>152155316Not a bear.
>>152155316Penguins (figurative): Although they are not bears, they live in Antarctica and at the South Pole (opposite pole to the Northern Hemisphere) and eat fish, making them "opposite poles".There are also polar bears and pandas.
>>152155316a twink
>>152155181>_><_< horse show comics
How are other websites reacting??
>>152155499https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Beneath-The-Trees-Where-Nobody-Sees-Praludium-Ashcanhttps://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Beneath-the-Trees-Where-Nobody-Seeshttps://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Beneath-the-Trees-Where-Nobody-Sees-Rite-of-Spring
>>152155499What other sites are there? I know about comics.live (don't know if it's still alive though) but is there like a reddit or something for people who actually read comics? Because all I can see is people bitching about superheroes
>>152155520She burned the fucking town? Wasn't the entire point of this that she was a run of the mill serial killer?
>>152155578She was actually super-genius-ten-steps-ahead-of-you criminal sherlock holmes the whole time
>>152155578It's on a dumb power escalator. The ebin serial killer is now omnipotent.
>>152155316Raeb
>>152155316Bear in ancient Greek, Arktos means "great defense". Arktos is where we get the word "arctic" from (land of the bear). The opposite of defense is "Kra" so "great offensive" is "Kratos". So Kratos is the opposite of Bears.
>>152155578>>152155593>Live long enough to see Sam turn into a Rinny
>>152155181bandette is a fun french comic with a cute superhero girl hero. it has cartoon violence but very little real peril because the lead is chadette as fuck
>>152155606He surely must have killed one or more
>>152155606>So Kratos is the opposite of Bears.The gays would disagree with you.
Why is it always bears that are killers.They're already monstrous creature irl, why can't it be something like I dunno a reptile or another less used mammal.
I hope Patrick sees all the backslash he's getting from this change and does the sensible thing which is killing Sam once and for all.
>>152155721bears are pretty laid back in real life. especially black bears. if you give a bear the space and respect it deserves it will never fuck with you unless it's rabid or starving. they want to be left alone, they're largely solitary. like sharks. some animals are ancient forces of nature you just shouldn't ever fuck with.
>>152155721Bears are the right amount of cuddly and dangerous, strong enough to be scared of, cute enough to sell merch
>>152155721> a reptileYeah, I'm sure some snake would be way less cliche than killer winnie the pooh (please ignore the blood and honey thing)>>152155806I think it's too late now. The best he can do is reveal the last couple of pages were Sam's dreams after the crash but it would steel feel pretty lame.Also the setup is all there, nobody looked into the shop because the fox got shot, all the cops are dead, the body parts are in the car. Sam can yet again dodge all suspicion
>>152155806I empathize with Patrick, he probably just wrote himself into a corner and couldn't think of a satisfying conclusion. Tale as old as time.
I'm sad the last thread died just as I got on a roll with my autism >>152154124
>>152155958i appreciated it anon
The people saying this comic is "like Dexter" when it began didn't realize how correct they would be.
So, what? /co/ got rugpulled into thinking the comic was anything other than schlock at that very end?
>>152155964Thx babe
>>152155680Kratos is just an old twink.
>>152155851>Also the setup is all there, nobody looked into the shop because the fox got shot, all the cops are dead, the body parts are in the car. Sam can yet again dodge all suspicionMaybe I'm giving it too much credit, but this seems more like an "all-in" moment where she's decided she's been caught and there's no going back. Her coming out of this with her previous life in-tact would be so profoundly retarded that it'd make the shotgun trick look tame in comparison.
>/co/ falls in love with a stupid premise and ends up seething at the endYep, nothing changes
>>152155970The author described it as Dexter meets Busy Busy Town
>>152156041The first series was fine, the sequel series was the problem
>>152155721>a reptile killer would be less clicheSometimes I wonder how some of you remember how to breathe
>>152154657How is that one lesbian, suicidal and homicidal bear yume doing
>>152154657God, I love when people get burned by comics that were obviously shit to begin with. Serves you right for having shit taste. Lmao
>>152155851>>152156068Fuck you, a chameleon or a crocodile would be neat as a killer.
>>152155654As bad as this comic has turned out to be it will never be bad as that shit, why do you keep bringing up the comparison?
>>152155663He fought one, though he didn't kill it. His son did, however.The bear was Kratos's son.
>>152156142>volume 2 is bad>this retroactively transforms volume 1 into a bad comicThis is how a retard thinks.
>>152156142Nah, that first mini was okay.And the second didn't have to turn to shit, the writer just chose this for whatever reason. Man, don't they have editors or anyone to bounce ideas off of? You couldn't sell it even as a pitch
>>152155578They have her offing Lex in the crossover for a reason, anon
Am I supposed to bee seeing something?
>>152155663Nah, the bear won.
>>152156219Man, this series went down the exact opposite path I was hoping for.What a shame.
>>152156031>Her coming out of this with her previous life in-tact would be so profoundly retarded that it'd make the shotgun trick look tame in comparison.She was so bored she found getting caught made life exciting again.You just know she has a backup plan
Speaking of opposites and antitheses:Could you please draw the Rite of Spring (year 1994) version of this female panda (who is the opposite of Samantha) that drew in a previous thread.https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/151468455/#151494947
>>152156175Notice how you said "neat" and not "unique".
>>152156189Because I find it funny how this comic "a good one made by professionals" is doing the same things Pretty Blood did and now is that people are realizing that after it went completely off the rails.What kind of pretty blood is this? an american one that is.
>>152156212>the writer just chose this for whatever reasonIt reeks to me as a lack of planning (since it was originally a one-shot) combined with the desire to raise the bar and "outdo" volume one.
Patrick bited more than he could chew that is clear.Personally I'd just ended this comic after the first issue or the prequel one if I wanted to milk sam a bit more, then go to work on an Actual Kid friendly books or do a different comic idea or whatever, now the only thing left is to see how Sam tears a new hole in Lex's ass.
>>152156304Or just the author misunderstanding what their audience liked the first time. Like Peter Watts in Echopraxia retreading the plot of the first book at like 10x the pacing, throwing in some tech concepts and kungfu action and being baffled why people said that previous book was way more engaging despite being slower.
>>152156293name 5 reptile killers that aren't snakes.
>>152156374https://super-villain.fandom.com/wiki/Category:CrocodilesHere, have a couple dozens of them
>>152156374LeonardoDonatelloRaphaelMichaelangeloTokka
>>152156351Milking your one hit is okay, especially when you feel like you don't have any more in you, he just went full retard with the plot. I think he wanted to make a reversed "house that Jack built" with killis being horrid and gruesome at first and turning it into black comedy
>>152156407>>152156427yet no chameleons.
>>152156258It had to become ongoing which meant either turning the police into COMPLETE dumbasses (usually they're only dumbasses before they know there's a serial killer) or upping her power level
>>152156465What about the bitch from Kung-Fu Panda 4.
>>152156465Go be a scalie fuck in /trash/ you bitch
>>152156483her concept is fine, the execution was horrid however (like all of that film).
>>152156351>first big hit is a comic doing the "child friendly but not really its messed up actually" gimmick>immediately go to do a normal and regular comic for kidsAh yeah, the snyder approach when he went to direct the animated owl movie after realizing all his movies at that point weren't appropriate for his kids.
>>152156280Is this you?
>>152155721You shouldn't be thinking reptile, you should be thinking frogs or toads.Snakes sneak up and slither through the undergrass to kill their prey through what we would consider sinister means like constriction or venom. You know to be on your toes with a reptile like a snake and it's cliché, down to a literal biblical level.But frogs? They're much worse.Frogs don't hunt you. Frogs don't cause a ruckus and frogs are just as silent as snakes. They are round, retund and bulldog like. If there was a giant toad the size of a large dog or a small horse you could easily go up to and fuck with it safely. They will sometimes let insects crawl all over them or a leave an insect right in their face alone. But all it takes is for them to be a little hungry and a bug to wander up to them, and they will devour them whole in a blink of an eye without a trace.If you want an animal serial killer archetype frogs are the perfect fit. Slow, not that physically intimadating, frumpy, keeps to themselves and loves lakes or fields. Seldom seen in town but will prowel about in the late evening when hr is not surrounded by vulnerable potential victims who have been around him for so long that they feel that they can trust him, but at anytime all it would take would be one, large snap around their head.>Mr Toad killed Mr Mouse?>Oh don't be so cruel Officer! Mrs Mouse passes by his house every sunset with her kids and they never had an issue!>Even the Woodlice kids down the road cause a ruckus with his yard from time to time with their games and he doesnt bat an eye>He wouldn't hurt a fly officer, quite literally!>But if you are talking shifty, I never trusted that corn snake down the road...
Browsing through these threads really highlights to me how in /co/ lurk some really stupid troglodytes
>>152155550I guess there's everyones favourite boogeyman reddit, but I can find barely any reactions to it other than "I did not expect that to happen" and "I would like to see the final issue". Borderline bot tier.
>>152155181Unironically, Silver Age Big Two is a decent option for that
>>152156777All the blatant pedo, fetish and schizo threads didn't tip you off on that already?
>>152156427Have the Turtles actually directly killed anyone that wasn't a robot? I can buy Leo and Raph doing it, but not Don and Mikey.
>>152156303Period Blood didn't invent this kind of shit retard, beyond both being vaguely furry violence and different degrees of stupid there are zero similarities and you show your age and shit taste by constantly bringing it up.
>>152157070just ignore him anon he's a shitposter or a schizo.What I would rather talk about is that what is even Sam's plan at this point, either she dies or she gets away with it and either option honestly kinda sucks.
>>152157013The very first appearance of the turtles was about murdering the Shredder.
>>152156203If Tony Soprano removed his mask and said he was a time traveling robot in the last episode of The Sopranos I think it would retroactively change the series
>>152154657Well I feel vindicated thinking this shit was always kinda mid and carried hard by the novelty of the children's story book art style. It was never a particularly gripping serial killer story and the main character didn't really catch me and I feel like the majority of those that like her only do so because she's a furry character and a woman.
>>152155970in a way it was kinda inevitable things would get this outlandish.
>>152154657>read this post >>152129883>edginess incarnate complete with "You activated my trap card that somehow none of my employees ever thought to press the red button underneath my hardware store counter!"I MEAN COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN DUDE
>>152155654>>152156303are you really trying to force horrorfag to appear to derail the thread. if thats so, first of all; fuck you, and second of all please shut your mouth about that thing now and never bring it up again to these threads, please.
>>152157216It's always the same shit with anything about Serial Killers anyway, you read or seen one of these they're all the same regardless of how "good" they are called as.>protag kills or is the one discovering who is killing>the law is ran by retards or corrupted>the antagonist is giga brain 10000 iq intellectual or a karma houdini who gets away with it everytime>the story ends only when the author had enough of the cat and mouse game and makes one of the two parties commit a mistake that leads to their defeatThat people thought it would be different with animals is clearly delusional.
>>152154657>The switch opens the vents and the button shoots the gunNo one accidentally pressed the button and shot the vents?
>>152157471Serial killers are a lot like gangsters, outlaws, mafiosos, et cetera.There's a Hollywood-ification because watching a consistently lucky moron evade with mommy issues acting on an impulse over and over isn't exactly A-tier material.Even the "killer mind" is very rarely that complex, "I hate x because mom/dad were x so now I impulsively kill x whenever I see it"X typically being women or drunks.
>>152154657I'm glad I dropped this after 2 issues
>>152157817It's been fun to read along with /co/ and laugh at its downward trajectory.
>>152155606Now that's the DC KO fight I want to see so long as it's OG GoW Kratos
>>152156219The terrified look on his face on the preview page's panels is hilarious. I'm betting that IS his blood on the knife, otherwise he wouldn't be freaking out. Sam's smart enough to know you can slide a thin blade between the segments that allow a powered armor to bend and twist.
>>152157196And Splinter has been returned from the dead and killing people who he fears might be able to kill his sons.
>>152155970HOW DOES THE KITTY KAT GO?
Eh, I'm still enjoying it.
>>152158687Might as will stick around for the ending. Thanks for dumping the earlier issues too btw
>>152157543From the top of my headuncle Ben bettys brotherthe scientist who created the scorpion sérumi still have like 8 issues left to read so idk
>>152159436You're welcome.
>>152157281>shoots sheriff between the eyes as if she's Golgo 13>has shotgun turrets in the ceiling of her shop that've only been used for this specific momentThis is retarded.
>>152154657
>>152159559>ceiling of her shopactually, based on the last thread, inside the zero-thickness walls of her shop
>>152159566Fonzie Bear>wakka wakka!
>>152157208It depends on there being a good jumping off point. If you have a good standalone story, even a dogshit sequel shouldn't ruin it. Otherwise you could never deem a single piece of media to be good because some asshole could always come along and make a bad enough sequel that ruins it. Alien and Jurassic Park didn't magically become bad movies just because they made a million terrible sequels, and Beneath the Trees doesn't retroactively become a bad serial killer story just because the sequel is bad.
>>152156351All he had to do was not time-skip into the future where being a Serial Killer was less practical and keep to the first comics era where we see Sam still doing her thing but with an occasional hiccup here and there
>>152159652It's still stupid.
>>152159700The problem is that later entries can change people's perception of the previous stories (or even retcon the actual facts) including the themes and characters, and if those new interpretations gain enough stake in the public conciousness, it becomes difficult to impossible to discuss the originals without people insisting on those interpretations. Eventually the original ones may even be lost to time, and something that was special to you will lose its meaning, or at least the shared one that allows you to connect with others. May or may not sour your own personal enjoyment, but reasonable to be a little upset about it.
>>152159731It's even more stupid. I was able to justify the ceiling.
>>152159559How did no one else in the shop find the button or switch & hit them in curiosity?
>>152157013In the very first scene in the first issue they apparently kill a bunch of Purple Dragons.
>>152156647Yeah frogs are terrifying. They're literalky stomachs with legs and rudimentary nervous systems.
Team "too lazy to get on board with the FOTM" wins again. Undefeated.
>>152159957Always Bet On Nothing
Are we Hoffman kino now?https://youtu.be/lTWY11J9Z3o
Where can I read this nonsense?
Holy shit that was retarded.
>>152157682Even Ed Kemper, someone that True Crime fanatics like to tout as being insanely smart had some intense mommy issues. Issues so intense it got the better of him, killing his mom and his moms friend which lead to him turning himself in. Had he not given into his impulses he'd have at least another decade of freedom before he got caughtThank god the judges recognize that Ed's calm, polite and cordial demeanor is just an act. Ed definitely still wants to kill women, he'd kill the nearest woman if he could
The weird thing is about the whole booby trap/lex thing is that Sam isn’t smart enough to be a Dexter serial killer, she’s not stupid but she only really gets by due to the town being simple.Monica, Nigel and his mom shows that anyone who gets close enough to her finds out eventually because she leaves clues all over the place. She’s not a le ebin mastermind, she’s an above average amateur
>>152156031even if she got away with it, at bare minimum you'd think this would make people remember that time she was accused of being a serial killer before it turned out to be nigel
Reminder Sam set the shotgun trap as soon as she sent the message out meaning she knew she’d get caught
Remember that Patrick went from a no-name cartoonist to having official crossovers with DC. He had another book that didn't do nearly as well as BTTWNS.
>>152156985Uhh, its not pedo when we do it.Only when /a/ does it.
>>152161242That seems very retarded then. She baits this person to her in order to show off some over the top gun trap? Wasn't this what pissed her off about Nigel was he was wanting to do flash shit that shook up the town too much?
It really should have stopped after the first 6. The amount of ass pulls is getting ridiculous.
Everyone is butthurt of the shotgun trap but im all here for sams shenanigans
What happened to Melody?I'd like to know what became of her. By the way, would someone be kind enough to draw her taking a shower please.
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>>152156303Are you the same fandom parasite retard that keeps shitting up Nia threads? No one above the age of 18 cares about that shit.
>>152163054She'll probably die alongside everyone else in Woodbrook next issue.
>>152163657She wasted the opportunity to shoot Samantha in the face. In any case I hope to see the conclusion of the story
The whole point of volume 2 is that Sam deserves to get fucked in the end. She got bored and went out of her way to find Monica and fuck around with her until shit hit the fan. I will be fucking pissed if by the end she doesnt die (unlikely at this point) or at the very least gets caught. I've watched too much Dexter at this point to tolerante another "serial killer keeps getting away with it for stupid reasons because the writer fell in love with him". I think the only way to unfuck this situation is at least that she's on the run on volume 3 and the whole volume will be about her being more and more desperate and realizing that having too much fun with the duck was her undoing.