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Shame, but it was inevitable especially since Warner bros still had it. It
>>152178615who could've seen that coming?
>>152178615well time to move on from this
American cartoons just keep failing.
Why do cartoons today get cancelled so fast? Remember when 52-65 episodes used to be the standard for kids cartoons?
>>152178615oh no!anyway.
>>152178615I couldn't make it through the first episode, it didn't seem to know who it was for, like it was made for YoutubeEven back in the day it was important to launch strong if you wanted a full production order
>>152178615Well that sucks, but yeah the Warner situation was/is fucked.
>>152178685i'm so glad weird shit like Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the sea got 52 episodes
>>152178685Executives have too high expectations
>>152178615She deserved better.
>>152178685There are MULTIPLE reasons why. The first one being that WB is bankrupt to hell. They NEED a smashing hit of a show or its just getting dumped. They cant pump this stuff up like they used to.Second reason are out of touch execs. These mofos have been like this probably in the early 2000s and have been getting worse every since then. Bad business decisions and just canceling shows for retarded and greedy reasons.Third reason being that this show was stuck mainly on AS, which is mainly the reason why this show suffered. Wrong audience and the wrong time with better shows and basically no merchandise to get back the funding. This show literally rigged to fail. If it had better direction and was put in the normal CN schedule it wouldve had at LEAST a chance.
>>152178615Expected but still a shame
>>152178764Pretty much this. If something doesnt exceed whatever the previous highest grossing IP its automatically a failure because CEOs are evil reptiles
>>152178615Damn I still say /co/ should cannibalize the show and make their own version like "Thong squad" could be a fun concept. An the basic concept isn't bad just how they go about it. A plucky fighter girl who is weak but wants to improve is fun.
>>152178917We can probably make a list of wrestle characters and make interesting scenarios with them which could also include ocs as well.
>>152178615Good riddance.Fakime bullshit.
>>152178887>>152178700>>152178764All of these hit it right on the money. Show dead ass never stood a chance because of the people in charge and the circumstances.
>>152178615and nothing of value was lost
Feel bad for this one, I think it had potentiol but the creator got screwed over by CN basically not existing anymore, so they wound up making show aimed at kids that was shown to the rick and memey audience. I wonder if they will leak the future plans, cause the creator made it clear he was gonna raise the stakes since AS wouldve let them get away with more.>>152178998have to admit, the big kid being an Alphonse clone made me cringe
>>152178917Ballmasterz was basically the better fake anime sci-fi sports show. And it had a better brown girl.
>>152179063You spelled it wrong.
>>152179125Okay
>>152178615>Another shitty The Rock Project is cancelledThis is what you get for ripping off kinnikuman and mucha lucha
Not surprised to be honest. Regardless, I really liked Andy so it's a shame we won't get to see more of her.
>>152179140You should show more respect.
>>152179197They spelled it wrong first
>>152178615I only saw the first 2 eps and was waiting for a third...then forgot about it. How many eps did it make it up to?
>>152178887Wasn't it meant to be a normal CN show until the literal last second?
>>152179061>that was shown to the rick and memey audience.It aired on Toonami, so it was actually shown to the "aging hood weeb who's still obsessed with cable and dubs" audience.Which, unsurprisingly, is also not an audience that's going to be particularly interested in a kid's show.
>>152178998It makes more sense when you conisder this was made for middleschoolers, the tropes seem tired to us but for that audience it would have been more fresh.
>>152178638EXACTLY what I said before opening this thread
>>152178615That's too bad. I would've liked to see more.
>>152178615This show was completely fucking retarded. Cartoon made by morons whose only frame of reference for ANYTHING is other cartoons.
>>152179311Dwaynetty reached CN to make this garbage and backfired badly
>>152178711That was 40 years ago, times have changed.
>>152179311thats basically every cartoon and anime made in the last 15 years grandpa
The show would've been successful in 2006 or maybe 2010.
>>152179218It's a style.
>>152179417what did he mean by this?
>>152179417Are you trying to say that's a good thing? Do you love shit media?
>>152179417Yea, that's why the last 15 years have been so shit.
>>152179417I mean the key difference would be that most shows in the 90s and early 2000s were inspired and learned what do from actual good shows. I don't know what to say about the currents one besides how bad they are.
>>152178685Anything approaching traditional animation is expensive.
>>152178615Another shitty anime pastiche made by someone who fails to understand the appeal of anime down the drain. Onto the next one.
Honestly, this show would have benefited from actually incorporating some of the edge present in the anime it was supposedly inspired by, as it stands it was really just a show for 8 year olds that was for some reason airing on a block aimed at adults, ostensibly as a show created for teenagers.It was way too late to make a show like this without any bite to it, we're long past the days of kids watching TV cartoons at 6 in the evening.
>>152179063True and true, but still think can be scrapped for parts>>152178982Honestly sounds fun, I was thinking more like just trying to tell a story and then maybe making ocs to fight the main gal or be supporting cast. Kind of like other threads of a similar nature have done
>>152180026I got a couple of wrestler ocs I can show you if you are interested.>>152179478Agreed. Mainly for 2006, cause simple action cartoons were still a thing.>>152180022That's honestly the main problem for the show itself. It used anime for a reference but never understood it alongside kinnikuman. They copied ideas but didnt learn or used what worked.(Which kind of makes it questionable if they genuinely liked the show and didnt just steal ideas.)
>>152180339Lol always down to see, got a few myself though again depends on how much we'd want to scrap the concept or what to keep sadlyThink show base idea fine, just loses sauce because it tries to be so anime and doesn't enjoy the wrestling element. Think best if it leans a bit more towards just a world of fighting instead
>>152180539Heres one named plexa.So plexa is one out of five or so female wrestler ocs I have ill show them if you are interested.Plexa is a cyborg wrestler from unknown origin that can copy and analyze moves from other fighters and amplify them and use them.Plexa is the polar opposite of seth from sf4. While seth is the typical evil character, plexa is more a perky girl. She usually shows her personality through body language and rarely talks. Has a bit of Spider-Man snark in her and is more emotive and playful than what you see in boss characters.Id like to believe she would be a boss character that starts of like a mindless killing machine but after beating her she becomes good after being freed from her orginal program.She has like three different finishing moves:Hydraulic DistressTitanium SmasherPiston - Lariat Drop---She has like three ring names I came up with.The Tyrian Steel RavagerThe Ironclad Amethyst of DevastationA Cataclysm that shines violet.
>>152180742I respect the fact you obviously actually like wrestling and the name really fits also the fun move names. Really would like to see more I'm always down for interesting concepts and ocs. Do you post her anywhere else or just kind of a fun conceptAlso which part of her is human?
>>152178615Was the series any good? Cause the imagery seems insufferable
>>152180835For this oc, plexa. She was an abandoned oc I saw and wanted to use her. Hopefully when I get better at drawing I can really do her justice. But for now I only have a couple of pictures for her like this I found. This is one and a visual pic of hydraulic distress .https://files.catbox.moe/u3cz7x.jpg
>>152178615Everything looks like it's saying the show wasn't cancelled exactly, but put in that aggravating limbo state a lot of shows end up in. That being said it's pretty much the same shit now a days. Regardless >>152178917 has the right idea. If the show is stuck in limbo then it's better to make something else with it's ideas. Probably end up better than some of what we got from the show itself anyway.
Anyone have that drawing of Andy getting her head smothered between two female wrestlers asses?
>>152180835Also the part of her that is "organic" is within the metal chassis of her body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agELcTCN2Rw>>152180879It's fucking awful. A total lack of any kind of inspiration, HIDEOUS designs and animations, and yet the retards on Reddit and Resetera kept fucking begging to get more of it for some unfathomable reason. Maybe because they just want to perform allyship to a show that screams "DIVERSITY", I don't know.I miss Steven Universe.
>>152181047This one?https://files.catbox.moe/3eqvy4.png
>>152180879Very mediocre and uninspired. If you've ever watched a single shonen before you've watched this show already.>>152181012IIRC Superjail's in the same "not cancelled but in limbo" state, and has been for 10+ years.
YEEEESi sincerely hope people stop make these psuedo anime cartoon and start making actual western cartoons. nothing wrong with getting inspired by eastern animation but it if it feels like a " this would be better but with my artsyle" then you already screwed up.
>>152178615This shit reminded me of SaturdayAM, which is never a good thing.
>>152181066>I miss Steven Universe.
>>152181067Yeah, though I think there might’ve been another part before this one.
>>152181150https://files.catbox.moe/2qs1g9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jid7s5.png
>>152180971Huh never heard of her but maybe can try and draw something in today's /coc/ drawpile.But fun reused oc, nothing wrong with it who's was she? Did you draw these because if so these good and fun>>152181012Definitely why I say fuck it why not though question is do we keep andy and what would be changed added etc. I Definitely feel some aspects just need complete overhaul others just slight changes.>>152181057Part of me gets robocop vibe just a horrid mound of flesh and lungs>>152181047>>152181067Oh hey this mine! wild times
>>152181164Awesome, thanks a bunch anon.>>152181188Kudos to you man. The drawings you did of your OC dominating Andy are fucking stellar.
>>152181188I didnt draw them but I am currently learning to draw. Starting with basic fundemntals first. The orginal owner was called "docbatswastaken" but after 4 yrs she just disappeared and was never used. Alongside some deleted artwork i have.So now I just keep her around for myself and think of something with her.Also I still got a couple of wrestlers i can show
>>152181188>do we keep andyShe's cute enough for it I think. There's problems with the show but her base design wasn't really one of them. Well, her suit is boring but that's nothing some tinkering can't solve like we've seen with that yellow leotard redesign. Splitting up focus into a lineup of female wrestlers could be good anyway.
Yay!
>>152181124Go fuck yourself.
>>152180742>>152181311I like the construction tape sling bikini idea. Fits with the whole theme of her move names. Have you drawn her yourself yet? Are you considering doing any changes to her once you do or are you thinking of keeping her mostly unchanged there?
>>152181164>>152181239Respect for keeping these anon, and you remembering honestly these are classics think me and syndicate were only/first two drawing art for the showI did lose Hella interest fast sadly. Also yeah remember being asked also wild how old these are think I made those like October 2024 I believe when the first pilot came out. But yeah why I hate how bad show was we had like 5 500post threads for a week after the pilot. Then we barely broke 300 by the end of the season>>152181311Noice respect bro, truly best to never give up. I two want to learn to draw muscle gals and ryona better lol. Theirs a peak twitter account for poses ill have to find and link.Damn well hope can keep alive in spirit. I do think is fun Yeah go for it i got a few myself though be hard to show lol.>>152181318Oh yeah she definitely getting redesigned of course. I just asking if maybe anons would prefer a full refresh so no one can bitch at us or anything plus sometimes people commit more the less connected to mid something is. I've had this problem myself committed hours and money to a concept but people couldn't get past the og creator and original Tumblr nature of idea so got lots of hate and killed the growing buzz.Ok elephant in room, all young gals or we leaning older. Also powers and do we keep wrestling only and commit or make fighting. Also power system
But yeah send me some ideas anon im doing a drawpile today for coc and will design a new gal. So give me refs and ideasAlso would be willing to do some rough scenes or poses as well. [/Spoiler]also I'm doing drawpiles this week with some nsfw art bros so might convince them to do a sketch or two especially since both love muscle babes and other loves fantasy/zanny designs
>>152181373Im thinking about looking for alt designs for her when she was a heel. But for now this is her normal design.Really love this oc and want to do her justice alongside the rest I want to show.
>>152181431>prefer a full refreshOh I see what you mean now. Yeah you raise a fair point. A good point. If a name to replace the initial idea with comes up I'd be down to roll with it instead. As much as I like the idea of this show I also more than willing to admit it really didn't land a lot of things it tried. Splitting from some of that fuck ups could be good. And it wouldn't be too hard to have some Andy-not character anyway if someone wants to keep something inspired by her around. Or more likely a Bertie-not since it looked like she was really well liked.>all young gals or we leaning olderI don't think it's worth keeping a hard line one way or another. I'd think it is better to keep it an open age range so that if someone has a design they like they can work it in. Lets the young plucky rookie girls also fight in the same ring as the mature experienced women who can teach them a thing or two.
>>152181532You're just gonna make it that black girl from the "Pretty Pretty Please I Don't Want To Be A Magical Girl" video.
>>152181431Definitely wouldn’t mind seeing more drawings of your OC destroying Andy with her massive fat ass.
When was the last time 4chan liked a cartoon
>>152181485You want me to give you some action sequences cause I got a couple I ca give you right now.
>>152181583Would be making a new one that one i use for something else mostly lol>>152181532Definitely keeping beetie best pitch was she's a friend turned rival. Representing real wrestling dark side and andy not the idealized version. Ultimate face vs Ultimate heel True but feel most Would be younger or teens purely because you'd want to do fish out of water work your way up. So rookies or wash outs first.>>152181562Didn't sound anything like that, that girl is plucky but we depressed. Unless we are making bertie not the mc. Though that could be humorous in its own rights>girl of wash out champs>tons of potential and talent>great fundamentals and training>one problem>she hates wresting>"Please god don't make me a wrestler">coming to theaters near you>>152181679Sure I'd take a look though was thinking more rough worldbuilding or fun quickies. But could try for sure
>>152178615Lol, Lmao even, good riddance, not the worst show Adult Swim's version of Toonami aired, but it had no bussiness being there, they should of have aired it on regular Cartoon Network as originally intended when it was produced
If we don't get any news on MAWS soon you can bet on it being cancelled
>>152181736Based
>>152181725>So rookies or wash outs first.Makes sense. Skew younger initially since that's where all the rookie low rank wrestlers would be at. So if you see a younger girl at a high rank it means something about her and if you see an older woman in a low rank you also know she probably sucks or started late. All of which come with little story implications.
>>152181752Isn't that getting a Green Lantern spin off? I thought that was why we haven't seen anything about it yet.
>>152178711Kino
>>152178615
>>152181794We haven't seen shit because nobody's working on it. It's cancelled and written off for tax breaks because nobody is fucking interested in these shitty shows.
>>152181119Oh hey is the Cock Striker girl at the bottom right. Whatever happened to that book?
It came out?
>>152181725>that one i use for something else mostly lolWhat exactly if you don’t mind me asking.
>>152178615Good
>>152181828Or it could be that it was put on hold due to Netflix buying WB
>>152178998Based
>>152181119Yikes
>>152181778Hehe that one creepy older girl who hangs around the rookies, she basically just a milf who decided to start in her early 30sBut yeah fits, still wonder if we'd do wrestling only or fighting in general?>>152181844Ah I use her for /coc/ she's from a concept called "Dumbstruck". She just was new at that time as I made her like july 3rd 24
>Wrestling series>No cute wrestler girls>MC spends half the series learning a basic bitch punch instead of a wrestling move
>>152178685No impact/death of cable. I've never heard of this show until today and will probably forget about it tomorrow. Most cartoons today wish they had the instant impact that Adventure Time, Phineas and Ferb, Star Vs., etc. did. In a cable-less world, cartoons seem to be sent to die unless they are Bluey or Smiling Friends;and the latter probably only succeeded because of it being made by an e-celeb.
>>152179849It's not, this is a myth that needs to die. 3D is way more expensive. The actual reason it's done is because 3D movies outperformed 2D ones because most people are retarded and thought 3D = New Tech = Must Be Better.
Butts
>>152181982Gotta any drawings of her
152181989As far as I can tell we had a few. Based on the concept art. >MC spends half the series learning a basic bitch punch instead of a wrestling moveSeriously? If thats true then they really did copy from, anime but missed what made them interesting.
>>152181982>Hehe that one creepy older girl who hangs around the rookiesShe's either a perv, someone who wanted to feel young again by fighting with the rookie girls, or a rookie breaker who intentionally keeps her rank low fuck with rookies. Either way it's an avenue to explore. >wrestling only or fighting in general?As much as I think the showmanship of wrestling is fun in the threads it was often said making it mixed marital arts would have been better so maybe that? Means you pretty much get every kind of fighting you'd want and even showy stuff with wrestling inspired fighters too.
>>152180879had its moments, but average at best.
>>152182157>If thats true then they really did copy from, anime but missed what made them interesting.If anything they copied the wrong parts.I've spent my time reading some trash manga that quickly met the chopping block. This sounds like a very common problem inexperienced or cocky writers get where they can't pace for shit. There's taking it slow and then there's "nothing fucking happens" pacing.
vulnerable rape girl
I had an idea for two OCs.The first is The Knight, a fighter who wears full medieval armor and speaks with archaic idioms from the medieval era.The second is Garou, a guy with a wolf mask and a tail. He's silent and has a berserker mode where the mouth of his mask opens as if it were real, like King from Tekken.Maybe tomorrow I'll draw a little.
>>152182290And a new fighter was born.
>>152182188The leotard does so much for her.
>>152181725Heres are some. Just a warning some of these are suggestive. Hopefully these interest you. For now ill just yap about the rest of my wrestle ocs.https://files.catbox.moe/3nvmgw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jsvw3y.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ustzjb.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/mvufw4.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/ratrr1.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9srt9g.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/2z7q6j.jpg
>>152178615well yeah it was basically trying to ape anime without knowing why people like animeIt felt like a faux anime more than anything else, like why watch this when anime is available
>>152182188Ditch the cape and this is pretty good
>>152179063That show not taking itself seriously is a blessing. God I hate the first promo art for Invincible Fight Girl so much. They made it look so much more comedy driven than it was, and its just copy pasted anime tropes anyway.
This show was doomed from the start because it has no internal cohesion. There was no power system, no rhyme or reason to how strong or fast or technical a fighter was. Fighters can take whatever punishment the writer feels like and go down the same way. This makes it impossible for there to be tension or stakes.Even in the first fight in the pilot Andy doesn't win with a clever counter that turns his strength against him, she pulls enough raw strength out of her tiny black butthole to make a 400 pound man tap out.
>>152178615There was a weird error in the adult swim listings that seemed to describe premises for a future S2, that made me think at least one more season was confirmed. Because it was a strange error to make fanfic fake descriptions on the official adult swim listings for a fairly unpopular show.
>>152182656Those are still there even. If you have on demand for cable the episodes still list what look like future season plotlines. I have no idea how the fuck a mistake like that happens.
>>152181725Since you trying to do some world building what is the world like? Do most fights happen outside of wrestling or stages? Strongest feat in yout world? Currency and the landscape of what its like in the world?
>>152182625>400 pound manThe way Immaculate and his gang were handled was forced and cringy. I get that they wanted to pull off that "formidable and intimidating starter villain is also goofy and has a tragic past" trope but it failed to make me feel anything because we barely knew anything about the Perm Gang besides them being one-dimensional bullies for most of their screentime, the lighting fast way this "development" unfolds, and the fact that the rest of his gang are rather lame-looking and have too similar personalities. Character arcs like these need a few seasons to develop, not to be rushed in the first one and expecting us to ugly cry to it like people claim they did for Steven Universe.
>>152182155Tons lol but check /coc/ don't want to ruin flow>>152182157Sadly they do in fact I said it a million times but ep 1 is literally just the ep 1 of mha >>152182182Honestly want her to be kind of a cool mom if go 30s something but could do a rookie breaker teen who can't get in and wants to fuck the mc like tonpa from hxhHonestly also allows more dynamic fighters and design though we'd also need to explore races and powers etc because the show was all overYep plus wrestling is great, but fighting can allow different things as well>>152182188Damn anon really worked hard on this you've been doing gods work>>152182325Nice bro I've already finished one so far so send them. Though rest might be rushed plus want to do one wrestling pose as well.But yeah was just gonna ask if we should have guys, also about the knight since we said fighting does that mean blades are allowed. Could be fun actually like a oh shit he's a "fighter" too just with a weapon. Like baki when he learned weapons are allowed in real fights>>152182505Dude these are great also none of these are as bad as things I've seen lolBut I'll do one with your oc and one I just finishedGonna try and do-milf-young adutl-teen/kid
>>152182933>kind of a cool momThat would be cute. Like maybe she's getting into the ring to be with her daughter or to be a hero for her daughter.
>>152183632god imagine her daughter is a wrestling brat and super skilled making it extra hard for her to reach her
>>152183676Mom is a weak wrestler trying to make it to her daughter and her daughter is a young prodigy tearing through who needs a humbling. Feels like a recipe for some interesting dynamic there.
>>152178917Go for it, id love for this to be a thing, having a wrestling for co that includes ocs and other wrestling related characters woukd be awesome.
>>152184324Feel could keep the whole the league is evil, so they corrupt young people for next gen. >>152184341Yeah definitely a fun thing did a few sketches in the /coc/ drawpile gonna do more just need some sleepfeel free to suggest or give ideas, none of these two would be mc..Just had some fun
>152184418You could probably have your ocs or plexa get hit with a muscle buster like this ref: https://files.catbox.moe/ratrr1.pngAlso ill just put one more of my wrestle ocs for now unless more people want to know. Haven't made important concepts for her but her origin and abilities.She was originally a normal plant you see in stores. However due to mutation she is able to become sentient and becomes an artifical being.Her abilities are plant based. She would mainly be inspired by thw gum gum fruit. Being able to expand and stretch her body and grow in size, not with just her plant vines within her but the water stored in her. Her 2nd ability would be to use sharp and prickle cacti spikes. Not to just damage her opponent but slowly cause irritation to their skin to make them unable to fight properly.Her 3rd ability would be to use the water inside her and laugh projectiles. However if used too much she would unable to grow or manipulate her body until she is fully ressuplied with water.This design was originally made by an artist 17yrs ago by jaeh but was left to rot. So now I use her. Might have to come up with a new name soon.
>>152178615Dang, that sucks to hear. I was looking forward to seeing what they were cooking later on. And see the backstory to Keith David’s character in the show.
>>152184418Looks like you got some variety of girls going on here. Girl on the top right gives me Kneesocks vibes and I dig that. And that one in the middle has some serious meat to her.
>>152181119Is this a fucking joke? What a complete failing of understanding the appeal of manga and anime. The whole appeal of manga and anime is that it doesn't look like western shit. Nobody wants to see blacks or faggots in their anime.
>>152181431> I two want to learn to draw muscle gals and ryona better lolGiga based
>>152178685Anime ran roughshod on the industry so they're trying to copy the '10-13ep cour' cycle of anime rather than the traditional 65ep syndication package.
>>152184600There is a large contingent of westerners who genuinely believe that the best way to make anime and manga appealing to "wider audiences" is to just make it gayer, lamer, and browner.It's part of why these modern rip-offs pretty much always either flop right out the gate or fizzle out after a few months of releases.It really does drive home the point that the issue is indeed the creatives, because when left to their own devices they almost always put out the lamest shit.
>>152179276iirc it was but then someone decided it was a little to violent or something
>>152184657im just shocked the industry is full of people that lack the skill of self reflection or critical thinking
>>152184520Yeah I was thinking that one easiest to do but will probably save for main girl humiliating pose peakRespect and interesting, though probably gonna lean to making some more ocs. But also you sure love refurbishing dead ocs lol. Especially wrestler girlsalso she's basically the sister to that cactus guy in the show lol.>>152184565Didn't even notice, honestly almost did a boy design as one idea was for one of the top 10 people to be same age as mc and a boy. Play on the whole rivalry and potential of new gen angle. Also had a idea for a rich brat rival from a influential wrestling family but mostly was having fun with thesePlan to do a teenish one soon>>152184620thank you lol
Holy shit, this show is literally this meme lmao
>>152184754There's a surprising lack of homosexuality in the show (at least from what I remember, it's a very forgettable show) No real "main" villains either, just a bunch of side ones.
