Butch Hartman's at it again!https://x.com/FairlyOddFather/status/2013392342343131609
>>152194707>General 2 Day Event Ticket: $1,499.00>VIP Ticket (Includes special VIP dinner) $1,649.00
>>152194707I won't go unless there's a PlayStation 3 with FIFA 15 and a kiddy ball pit i can shit on
>>152194707Means jackshit when the industry is dying. Even CalArts grads are not getting jobs in animation when they graduate.
>>152194739Randy's burning in hell, why would that ever happen?
>>152194816Troons and such have been getting more violent lately.
>>152194707>All the money from Hart Conhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9copUadFL4&pp=ygUXdHdvIGJ1Y2tzIHN1cGVyYmFkIG1lbWU%3D
>>152194707Sounds kind of egotistical, but I wish him well.
>>152194707You know business is in trouble when the big names resort to sophistry
>>152194707>that picture He's getting older...
Butch Hartman hate these days feels really performative and forced
>>152194707Say what you want about John K but at least he delivered his Kickstarter project even if people think is shit, Butch never delivered Oaxis despite getting the money he asked for and Atoms never delivered his movie because he was a retard who didn't do research over that union bullshit
>>152194707I'm considering the possibility some people will make a big deal about going so they can produce a critique video calling it a scam or some other form of content bashing Butch which will give it enough traction to be a modest success.>>152195489Yeah. I think the guy has big flaws but there are bigger fish, right?
>>152194707Is he gonna teach people how to grift $250k from Kickstarter and deliver even less than John K. managed (i.e. nothing at all)?
>Get industry advice from people who haven't been able to land a industry job in the past 4 years or longer!No thanks, outdated info you can already find for free online. The western industry is fucked and rapidly changing, very little about what they have to say will apply to the current/future job market. There is a reason why you're seeing a bunch of industry vets trying to sell "advice" online now, because they aren't finding work either.If you're someone seriously trying to get a start somewhere right now your only real options is to aim low and get work on smaller indie projects. You really can't get into this field anymore with the idea it will be a living wage when starting out.
>>152194707His ideas later in his career is pretty bland, he's gotten worse at drawing, he has a bunch of controversies like tracing for commissions and rip-off Kickstarters, but he clearly knows how to wine and dine executives and producers to get a show off the ground. If someone could teach how to talk to executives and how to verbally sell your idea, almost like a speech class but for a specific purpose, I think that'd be much more beneficial than yet another, "I'll comment on your pitch bible" lecture. Like when people say, "Let's network with professionals!". The fuck does that mean, exactly? Walk up to them and start talking about cartoons? How do you approach total strangers and not make it totally obvious you're trying to sell shit to them or that you're only talking to them because you want something? That's the part of the industry that never feels clarified.
>Butch Hartman hate these days feels really performative and forcedCry about it.
>>152196063>Say what you want about John K but at least he delivered his Kickstarter project even if people think is shitThat nigger took ten years and the end result looked worse than the average flash cartoon on Newgrounds
>>152196532It's amateur awfulness made me laugh, that was enough for me.
>>152194707If people want to waste their time and money then whatever.
>>152194790This is literally why he's doing this con. When you can't find work, you become a "guru."
>>152196063Based
>>152194707No one fucking about this piece of shit
>>152196976if he pulls some shit like this then something will happen to the man
>>152196976Fucking lol
>>152196063Hateful fart cartoon
>>152194707Overrated as fuck.None of this shows were ever good.
>>152194707He's been getting pretty desperate in his old age.
This man hasn't created anything in years.
>>152197280Wrong
>>152196063Atoms returned the money though
So it's an industry convention. It's just an industry convention.>NOT a typical fan conThen advertise it as an industry convention rather than trying to advertise to casual fans
>>152198314>ended up broke and having to sell his original production artsHe should have kept the money
>>152194790The corporate cash cows are dead. The animation industry is just returning to what it was before the financiers targetted it for their scam.
>>152194707>.netLmao
>>152198391Industry people are broke. They need kids with clean credit histories to buy these tickets.
>>152194707Is this where we're getting the big Oaxis release? People have been waiting for it for years now.
>>152198391Fans are an income source, so it’s ok to trick them
>>1521947321.6k dollars and he won't even talk at the dinner with youGenuinely who is this for, I want to work in the industry but I'm fucking broke and actual people who work in the industry are broke, who's gonna pay to go to this?
>>152199372>>152199417Now that I think about it. It's not really an industry convention because it fails to offer the most significant thing those conventions are for. Networking opportunity.Butch burned a lot of bridges on his way out from Nickelodeon and has almost no connection to the "new guard" of showrunners who would be who you'd gun for for a good internship which is objectively what the actual driven people looking for a spot in the industry would be after over simple advice.It's worthless.
>>152199417>meanwhile an Annecy student ticket with 10x the networking potential and actual recruitment opportunities on top of all the stuff Butch is offering is €75I can only pity the poor, desperate fucks who fall for this grift.
>>152194707Butch really needs to cut it out before he passes away the last if whatever goodwill he has left.
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>>152199417$1500 and they don't even include food?
>>152194707>"I'm not like the only girls" pitch>"please give me money price" taglmao who the fuck does Butch think he is? Does this nigger really think he's on this kind of tier?
>>152195489I don’t hate the guy, I am concerned AF. He claims to be a man of God yet does this shit expecting insane profits back. I genuinely want to know what’s going through this guy’s head
>>152199469The target audience is in between, there’s a whole sub economy of aspiring entertainment industry fans who will never take it seriously but want the fantasy and industry pros willing to indulge or take advantage for the right price. It’s what one might call a con.