Shes made many mistakes, but I love her to bits.What problematic character do you like?
>>152201869My wife
A lot of my favorite MILFs are the "problematic" ones and none of them did anything actually wrong
>>152201985Tell me more of Ming Lee.
>>152202007Typical Asian "tiger mom" sort of thing, trying to get her daughter to focus on her studies along with family and tradition while suppressing her daughter's individuality. She does it thinking it's in their best interests but on the outside looking in it can be perceived as oppressive
>>152202051>>152201985She's Asian she'd never be that curvy.
>>152202253She's a whore, don't post her.
>>152201869>she made many mistakesEclipsa did literally nothing wrong
>>152202216There are curvy Asians anon, though curves tend to be more bottom-heavy than top-heavy. Like half of the rest of her extended family shown is on the heavy side.
>>152202287damn right
>>152201869Sadly she's not very fond of humans, romantically speaking
>>152202287>>152202312>>152202320She cucked her husband, ran off with a monster, had a baby out of wedlock, and damned mewni to Star Butterfly. She's awful.>>152202310I have never once met a thicc Asian that wasn't born here.
>>152202370Watch more JAV
>>152201869Should've just let her be evil
Proper evil bitch coming through
>>152202873Based fellow Odalia enjoyer
>>152201869The Magical Commission are arguably monsters to a human so why did they dislike monsters that much? Mewni is understandable but the high commission taking Mewni local butthurt that seriously is stupid writing.
>>152201869Eclipsa gets some slack since it was mostly her mom who was the colossal asshole and fuck up
>>152203198They just wanted to feel important because daddy didn't give them enough attention. Solaria was the one who kickstarted the monster hating autism and centuries worth of war
>>152201869He was probably a more compelling character and love interest than Michael and arguably Jentry.
>>152203198The MHC banished one of their own because he got cursed and annoyed them. I don't think it's particularly bad writing; it's just the Magical High Commission are cunts. >>152203206Yeah she did dumb stuff but she didn't start the fire. Also she was the youngest queen besides Moon so she didn't have a lot of guidance.
>>152203198They worked within royalty and thus are race traitors. Those who climb to a level of passability and pull the ladder up, like Third Generation Immigrants.
>>152202522I don't like Jav. Theres too much talking during the fuck.
Eclipsa has the best curves out of all the butterflies.
>>152203206>>152203222It really is crazy just how much she single handedly ruined things for Mewni
>>152201985I wouldn't argue to her favor though
>>152203834All because she wouldn't fuck the fat guy
>>152203895Odalia is, despite he intelligence, a dumbass.
>>152204157Bitch is deep down a bimbo
>>152204180How she managed to run a company that's even marginally successful is beyond me. Perhaps her only intelligence is in business savviness. Art of the Dead and all that.
>>152204210That's pretty much it, she just knows how to do buisiness, beyond that she's just a trophy wife and whore
What Eclipsa having sex with Globgor is like: https://files.catbox.moe/3x26w5.gifhttps://files.catbox.moe/avo1df.gif
>>152202522>squealing and blurred genitalsif youre gonna watch porn for teasing at least watch something thats half decent
>>152203834>Brother is about to advance Mewni out of the shit ages after securing alliances and dosh? Nah fuck that, let's start an ill conceived war and throw all of that progress in the dumpster, forcing bro to do damage control so we don't get wiped out.>What's that daughter? You want to know about your CHAD Fisherman father? No. Men are useless! Now go marry the biggest fag ever!>What's that? Daughter is working out peace talks? Nah, ambush the meeting!>I'mma perform human magic experimentation to turn peasants into Khorne Berserkers and fail to install a reliable off switch, then get mad at my most loyal comrade for doing what I told her to do>I have cosmic breaking magic at my fingertips and proceed to fucking job to fodder, dooming my kingdom to generations of war that I startedThe only one arguably more retarded was her mom taking the reigns from Jushtin and giving it over to this retard because "muh magic"
>>152204221Technically her husband is the trophy spouse.
>>152204296I need context here. What?
I'd like to think I could fix her
>>152204430She needs love anon.Can you give her enough?
>>152204439I'd try, god damn it.I'd try.
>>152204348He's the one making the stuff she sells, despite her profitting, he's the real money maker technically.I get what you're saying though.
>>152204582I really should have watched that show when it came out. I refuse to get Disney Plus.
>>152203246Kitchad stay strong
>>152204692I've never seen it, never will, just between the character design and what I know about her personality along with auxiliary information I've absorbed through various threads on here, I am deeply aroused.
>>152204700Can't believe Netflix didn't let Echo lean into the hottest concept in her show. The show deserves a season 2 just for that.
>>152204390A rundown using lore from the show and that book about mewni royalty>Skywynne, the Butterfly Queen who was especially autistic about magic ends up having a son named Jushtin who will inherit the crown>Jushtin doesn't care much about magic and was a bit immature at first, but had high smarts and charisma. He's the one who originally forged many of the alliances that Mewni had in the show. Through his alliances and smarts, he gets close to enacting a plan that would make Mewni better and advance it out of the proverbial Dark Ages with profits and such>Momma Skywynne gets knocked up again and has a daughter (Solaria) who is more magic inclined. Jushtin's reign is ended as momma passes off the title to Solaria because Matriarchy.>Solaria turns out to be a ragetard battle autist and hates monsters. With her position she incites the big war against Monsterkind and starts the whole shitshow. Jushtin, ends up playing damage control in the war effort through his alliances and is probably the biggest reason they are even still around>During this war, Solaria fucks around with human-magic experimentation, turning peasants into super rage warriors (NOT Space Marines / Khorne Berserkers) that obey her to fight in the war. Mina was her OG most loyal warrior who believed in her and underwent these magic spells done on her.>During the conflict, Solaria meets a chad Fisherman dude and they fuck. Said Fisherman dude also helps with the war. Eclipsa is born.>Solaria refuses to let Eclipsa meet/know her father because she is hyper sexist and views all men as useless (even though fisherman bro was a chad and helping her cause). Fisherman Dad still forms a relationship of sorts with Eclipsa from the shadows but never reveals the truth (though I think its implied Eclipsa figures it out on some level)>Solaria's hyper monster hate probably had a hand in Eclipsa having a thing for monsters. Eclipsa ends up secretly forging a relationship with Globgor(1/2)
>>152201869>betrayed her entire civilization for dick
>>152204390>>152204816>War is going nowhere as Solaria continues to act like a raging retard.>Eclipsa sneaks out and decides to try having peace talks with the Monsters along with Globgor>Solaria finds her daughter's missing, thinks its a kidnapping, refuses to listen, and ambushes the meeting once again fanning the flames.>Solaria, miss "all men are useless" forces Eclipsa to hook up with the faggiest noble there is>Solaria continues her war autism until she gets killed in a monster ambush>The war continues for hundreds of years until the show happens>Cue the endgame shit with Mina and her making Not Space Marines / Khorne Berserkers to take down the monsters for good>Cut to the "lets wipe out magic stunt">Magic Ghost Solaria, suddenly fine with monsters because Eclipsa had Meteora, turns her back on her most loyal and devoted follower (Mina) as she is being trampled for doing what she told her to do.>Reminder, Mina was infused with the rage insanity magics by Solaria herself and had to endure all that war that the cunt started in the first place.
>>152204828At least her civilization and billions of people survived when she did it. Star, on the other hand...
>>152204816>>152204838So then, while Eclipsa is to blame for leaving the throne and eventually passing it down the line to Dimension-Destroying Star, it isn't entirely all to blame. Its her mother, Solaria's fault. Jesus Christ. What happened to that bitch to make her so mad?
>>152204890I don't think it ever elaborates. She just really hated monsters. But yeah, most of the problems in the show can be traced back to her.
>>152204890>hat happened to that bitch to make her so mad?Monster attacks had been ramping up because Mewni kept expanding into their territory since inception, and Skywynne never bothered to address it. Then monsters attacked a settlement under Solaria's rule, and then Solaria went full TMD. It's a "We didn't start the fire" situation with all parties being extra retarded.
>>152204950 I think the question is best solved here >>152205021. I don't think Eclipsa was too retarded, she actually tried to end the aggression before it spiraled out of control. But she was retarded for leaving.
>>152201869
>>152205065>But she was retarded for leaving.Yeah. I wish I had saved anon's writeup on Eclipsa v Moon (hedonism vs duty). He had a lot of good points about how both were flawed opposites of each other.
>>152204221Not but >>152204348This is true and>>152204582He wouldn't know how to be a moneymaker on his own but she does so she exploits him>>152204692Go pirate, it's worth it>>152204760Good for you I suppose
Your favorite MILF. What style swimsuit she wear?
>>152205394Whatever makes everyone turn their eyes to her
>>152201869I still refuse to believe picrel did anything wrong.
>>152205446She was shit, but the only one shittier was Solaria who saw what her zealousy caused but acted like she had nothing to do with it
>>152205624t. monster
>>152205653Monsters did nothing wrong. The show goes out of the way to leave this clear.
>>152205686Silence, Eclipsa. Their very existence is a mistake.
>>152204890Actually Star only took the throne temporarily and then gave it back to Eclipsa.Eclipsa's only politics as a queen was around reparations for the monsters, but she went turbotard about it going on to evict hundreds of mewmans to give back to the monsgers. Even though the mewmans were her rightful subjects who were still living in medieval squalor, she never did anything for them and didn't bat an eye as they had to do exodus from their homes because of her unilateral reforms.In the end her actions only helped to further more anti-monster sentiments because her quest for equality was about some being more equals than others.
>>152205686No, some of the monsters did wrong (particularly the Septarians in charge who were the douchebags of monsterkind). It's just by the current day most of em just wanted this shit to be over. Solaria started most of the shitshow though
>>152205737Shut up, sperg.
>>152201869What mistakes? The show literally spends all the first half telling us she was basically satan but once she appears she did literally nothing wrong and its all just monster racisms.I didn't need her to be a child eating demon but like come on, would it kill modern media to make a nuanced villain that actually did evil things, why everyone has to be just misunderstood.
>>152205624>be victim of monster attack>the queen you idol worship says you can help and turns you into a super soldier>fight her wars for hundreds of years>get laid aside when they don't need you anymore>eventually go insane from having no purpose>all you have is the ideology that gave you this power keeping you going>be betrayed by the same queen you worshiped This chick was probably the biggest victim in the show. You have no soul.
>>152205762Oh absolutely. Reparations is one thing, but the people who have lived on that land for centuries cannot so easily be moved. Her affections for the monsters doomed her reign to immediate decay. But I feel she still had the problem of putting Star anywhere near the throne, which mean near the magic, which lead to the destruction of Mewni to begin with.
>>152205792She was pretty fucked by the time we see her in the show, but yes she is also a victim of monsters and Solaria given what we are told about the spells used to make the Solarian Warriors and how they work. >BEAR (Brute Eager Attack Roar): Imbues a person with brute strength and eagerness to attack. Takes away their fear in battle>BOAR (Blunt Offense Arrest Retort): Blunts a person's conscience>RAPTOR (Rage Aggression Panic Torpor Olfactory Response): Enhances senses in battle to extreme degreeThat combined with all the war and losing allies only for your leader to coldly turn their back on you is some bullshit. Sucks that Mina didn't tell the bitch off in a rage while she was being trampled.
>>152205446>introduce a character as a mentally ill war veteran who eats out of dumpsters and is basically considered a joke by the court>reveal her to have been a scared peasant girl who was gaslit by a queen into hating monsters>have that queen exploit her fears to get her to enroll in a super soldier program and shoot her full of magic juice>uh-oh, turns out the magic juice makes you super violent and gives you Ultra Dementia 5000>the queen changes her mind or whatever mid-war and just straight-up fucking abandons and shuns all the soldiers she made>the mentally ill war veteran then has to spend many harrowing years watching her fellow soldiers slowly go insane and die even as she feels her own mind slipping, completely helpless to stop it, while the court tries desperately to sweep her under the rug>then, much later, she is given a brief moment of lucidity and decides to use it to try and set things right>the queen is declared non culpable for these events and the mentally ill war veteran is fully to blameMan, the latter half of that show was just so full of mystifyingly retarded writing.
>>152205904Worse than that. The war kept going so Mina got to watch her fellow super soldiers die defending the kingdom walls while the fuckos were partying it up under Festivia's reign behind locked gates.
>>152205792Being a victim doesn't justify being a genocidal schizo
>>152205828Nah, Star fucking shit up had nothing to do with political power but the fact the was a retard
I don't know if Daron wanted the point of the show to be about how the Butterfly Dynasty was the worst thing to happen to Mewni but nothing seems to point otherwise
>>152205980proof?
>>152205997Consider the following.>Eclipsa sucks it up that shes gotta marry that fat gaylord.>Because of this, she never fucks Globgor, but does manage to settle the Monster/Mewman war and bring it to something of an end, although there exist tensions.>Star's family line never inherits the throne, they never become Butterflies.>Because of this, they remain the dirt-poor peasants they were meant to be.>Which means that Star never inherits the wand, which doesn't lead to the destruction of Mewni at all.
>>152206075Didn't Globgor kill the gaylord not only because the sham of a marriage enforced by the Hitler of the Butterflies but also because said gaylord was an ass to monsters too?
>>152206099He did, he ate him.
>>152205980It does when the only reason you're a genocidal schizo is because your queen enchanted you with magics specifically designed to make you into a genocidal schizo and then just never bothers to make a cure for your condition.
>>152206099He killed the gaylord because they abducted his wife and said gaylord told him that they killed his daughter.
>>152206125>I was made to be a living weapon>you're wrong if you don't allow me to be a living weaponI don't see the logic here
>>152206158You don't see the logic because you're fucking dense.
>>152206158Depends how you break down the sentence. Her being a genocidal schizo is "reasonable" in that she was magically forced into that state. Is it a good thing? No, but her being that way makes sense.
>>152206158If I fill you full of drugs and torture you then let you loose on the street with weapons, and you get shot to death by cops, its your fault not mine.
>>152206075True. But I meant it more as in official acts as a regent and not rogue acts of magic.
>>152206207>>152206226I acknowledge that she was a victim but not that her wrongdoings were justified
>>152206258I mean if we want to go full lawyer on this couldn't this go under some insanity clause and 'not being in her right mind' so its "justified" in that sense?
>>152206258Nobody said her wrongdoings were justified, dipshit.
>>152206308>>152206125
>>152206279Ironically Mina would have an excellent insanity defense. I don't even think she'd be ever declared fit to stand trial if one had been given.
>>152206279>>152206359True enough
Everything could've been easily avoided if Eclipsa would've just eloped with Marco
>>152206434I don't know what it is about this guys artstyle.But it is utterly revolting to me.If I had seen this when I was sick recently, I wouldn't just be vomiting out my mouth, but vomiting out my ass. Ass vomit if you will. That is how much it disgusts me.
I do miss Amoniaco. Shame this show killed his artistic drive.
>>152204828Many such cases.
