Apparently she said it in one recent interview So how are we feeling about this? Will She be a villain worth the name or will she be ruined like the rest of Vivzie's characters?
>>152279849Oh it's about time we have a female character doing something in that damn show
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>>152279849>>152280108The cutest villain ever
>>152279849Will Melissa join her villain arc or will she die in season 3 to trigger it?
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>>152279849>thought Alastor or Lilith will become the antagonist in next season>Viv lit will ripoff the plot from hifi rush were they go after every overlord>inb4 Valentino or the Shark Girl end up joining Charlie side>Alastor will be S7 o S8 final boss
>>152279849Velvette will also be given extremely fat titties and she will smothers my face with them.No, I will not cite any sources for this claim.
>>152280175Knowing the writing style she is probably gonna dieSo sorry for U Mel
>>152280227
Unscheduled Rapid Disassembly with Velvette!
>>152280247The game was rigged from the start.
>>152280247>>152280297Or her and Vel will die together That's still a possibility Such a sad ending
>>152280227I wanna see her in the final battle It's gonna be more epic that Vox' one
Lifefuel.
>>152280229Lol I think you're right knowing who's in charge of the show I can totally expect something like that Wait I don't think the show is going to have a 7th/8th season!!! Ohhh got your point nowWe'll never seen Alastor's big momentAlastor is such a wasted character
>>152280357Agree ദ്ദി ˉ͈̀꒳ˉ͈́ )
>>152280332Can Velvette even die though?After the fight with Niffty she just assembled herself back!!
>>152280419What's stopping someone from doing >>152280290 and then throwing her limbs into a furnace
>>152280426first you have to beat her in a fight which not many can do
>>152279849>her turn never everI can't believe the sanest person in this shitshow is the canon schizophrenic.
>>152280462Unbelievable right She is the most sane character besides Emily maybe lolI wonder how her character will develop in the future If they'll ever give her any attention obviously
>>152280495>You have no idea how horny I've beeeeeen~
>>152280426She is quite powerful Even Niffty struggled a bit before defeating her and still didn't kill her
>>152280419If only Charlie would have been well written she could have ended Velvette immediately
>>152280551What if we got Simon Belmont Captain N version
Build for breeding. Nuff said.
>>152280495Viv couldn't just be patient and have Gravity be at the end of the season to set her up as the antagonist in the next
>>152280680He's gonna smash the doll
>>152280714That song was so wasted in the second season Like what the hell!! I was expecting the unexpectable from Lute, then I for nothing They better fix her character or I'll get mad
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>>152279849I thought Valentino would be the next big villain? Unless Vivziepop is wimping out because she doesn't want a sexual predator as the main villain.
>>152280882Sweet jesus the hips and thighs on that Emily.
>>152280887>Unless Vivziepop is wimping out because she doesn't want a sexual predator as the main villain.She is, but not because of that.Valentino has an alarmingly large fujo fanbase, second only to Alastor, anon.
>>152279849My guess is Valentino dies in S3 and she goes on a revenge spree on S4
>>152280887He's gonna be the focus of season 3 Dunno as a villain or else
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>>152280999Her taking Vox' place
>>152280657 I wanna see them fighting
>>152281432I'd prefer to see Lute fighting against Velvette
>>152280866All she had to do was hold back, keep Lute out of the spotlight, and then hit us with Gravity at the end and commit to her being a major, if not the main, antagonist next season instead of wasting her and her song in this already bloated one
>>152280279Does she have genitals?
>>152281644As much as I like Lute, can she even win against Velvette? Velvette is an overlord and has magic powers meanwhile Lute just has a sword. Adam was capable fighting an overlord but I'm unsure of Lute.
>>152281802Nifty took Velvette out pretty easily. Lute could probably one shot her.
>>152281757 well technically she had the body of a doll so I don't think she has any
>>152280906The most vocal and underage part of the fandom despises Valentino though and Vivzie loves pandering to LGBT youth
>>152281826Would explain why she is always such a huge bitch.
>>152281802I mean she was ready to take Vox downSo she is pretty confident about her strength otherwise she wouldn't even dare to approach him if she wasn't sure she could win
>>152281866Now u know lol
>>152280332They won't. Iirc, Viv herself said Velvette is the most "redeemable" of the three Vees.
>>152281737Bad timing in this show is the law She Just like Alastor Store are a bit of wasted character of the whole show I really hope they can fix this character's storyline somehow
>>152281976Noooooo why?????I don't want her to be redeemedShe must stay evil
Vivzie doesn’t care about female characters so Velvette is probably just a background villain in S4
>>152281828That is nothing new. Let me let you in on something fujos don't want you to know.They had performative empathy for the gay community well before the current culture war.Back in the yesteryear of the mid 2000s, actual gay dudes typically just tolerated most fujos back in the day and would laugh with everybody else at the "you don't like it homophobic" card. If you asked people online what "yaoi" was back then, they'd say "a type of gay porn aimed at straight women" rather than "a type of shipping."The 2010s arrived and as gay culture took off more, a more authentic gay shipping scene arrived with it and some of the former popular yaoi pairings (Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth, Sasuke and Naruto, Yami Yugi and Seto Kaiba) all became actual ships which let the fujoshi slip in.That is why you see such disconnect with Valentino. It's the fujoshi vs the gay community who confused them for friends.
>>152282116For real???! That explains a lot then about Viv and everything else
>>152282052They better give her a better arc or else
>>152282396>not a gay demon twinkDon't hold your breath.
>>152279849Viv said that Velvette will be the main VEE of season 4, which tracks with the theory that Val will be the villain of Angel's arc in season 3.
>>152279849Idk. In interviews, Velvette’s VA seems like the least interested in the show. She didn’t even have a stock answer to her favorite Velvette fit for example. But she is an accomplished actress so maybe it won’t matter
>>152282494Yeah it doesn't matter how interested she's is as long as she shows up and does her job lol. She's done good so far so who cares if she just sees it as another paycheck.
She should yuri rape charlie, that would be so evil lol, hahah big villian vibes
>>152282494Maybe she doesn't like the character she dub
>>152282662She also rarely does the voice at cons so I assume that she’s either protecting her voice or just sucks at doing it without a dialogue coach
>>152282356Oh yeah, you want proof? My Immortal has a scene making fun of literally this. The guys join the girls in swooning over a guy because they're all bi-guys which is hot. Later, the writer says that Harry and Draco should make out in the last book and carte blanche accuses Rowling of being "hamophobic" if they don't. (Bear in mind this was well before Rowling's controversies in-regards to transgenders).It actually explains her "misogyny" a lot too. Usually the role of women in yaoi back then was to either be cheerleaders or petty jealous bitches.
>>152279849I wanna know how she diedAny Ideas?
>>152282893botched plastic surgery
>Alastor vs. Vox for season 2>Angel vs. Val for season 3So who from the hotel gang is gonna be Vel's opponent? Cherri? Niffty?
>>152283005Niffty has already fought against her Either she wants a rematch or either Cherry or BaggieThough I prefer Lute
>>152279849She will be sidelined like all of Vivzie’s female characters. This is a good thing because she is quite adept at writing compelling toxic yaoi (when she isn’t being influenced by gay men of course.)
>>152283033The Vees will have definitely given up the plan to try and conquer Heaven in favor of holding onto what's left of their power in Hell so I don't see a reason for Vel an Lute to really interact. I figure their purpose in the story now is to serve as rivals for the hotel since souls getting redeemed is bad business for them.
>>152283072Lute could become so obsessed with hurting Charlie/Vaggie that she allies with Velvette to kill the hotel. If that happens I hope they have lesbian sex.
>>152283072But Lute hasn't done with Hell yetShe still want to kill sinners soooooStill chance for them girls to fight
>>152279849I'm pretty sure they won't give her a big role though Even if she is the main villain Or they'll make her so weak it will be defeated easily
>>152283091>allies with VelvetteWhy the fuck would she pair up with a demon?
>>152283091>>152283407I can only see that happening if Lute grows desperate enough, which would mean she'd need to take some big Ls in season 3.
>>152283193>>152283424Yep never gonna happen She'll do it on everything on her own if she has to
>>152283407Because she hates Vaggie more than any demon, duh.
>>152283472I highly doubt she would do that.
>>152283091I don't think she'd ever ally with a Sinner. Maybe instead she could unleash some trapped fallen angels like Abezethibou (with either a way to control them, or not) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abezethibou
>>152279849Her eyes look really fucked up there. Animation error?
>>152279849She is divine I hope they won't ruin her
We know Val is incredibly stupid, he needs someone to steer the ship.
>>152283794I wonder if Vox Is still smart and powerful or since now it's just a tablet he lost some lol
I love my girlfriend!
>>152279849Just saw this on twitter Why I am not surprised Why does this woman hates women??We could have had a great female character moment
>>152284242Legit question when does Hazbin Hotel go back to being about the Hazbin Hotel?
>>152284242>Why does this woman hates women??60% of online misogyny is from women>>152284490>when does Hazbin Hotel go back to being about the Hazbin Hotel?As soon as Helluva Boss goes back to being about assassinations
>>152284242>>152284548 This and during an interview checkOn twitter it's everywhere
>>152284579>As soon as Helluva Boss goes back to being about assassinationsSame I want it back too
>>152284242>Adam>Vox>Valentino>VelvetteSo that's it? No new antagonists? I was expecting Roo.
>>152283005I wish Velvette and Vaggie would have been archenemies, but nope
>>152284619In the last season The 5th one I guess
>>152284619Roo should be making an appearance, though. I could've sworn there was a tweet in which Viv said they've started to record her lines. But how she's going to divide focus between that and Valentino is beyond me (obviously the latter will take precedence.)
>>152284579>60% of online misogyny is from women>4chan exists>reddit exists>doubt
>>152284579>60% of online misogyny is from womenThe other 40% is from me.
Ohh hell no
>>152284803>mixed black guy who grew up in Jim Crow era New OrleansYeah no shit the guy has trauma
>>152284619I saw the clip and I didn't get the impression the other Vees would be MAIN antagonists like Vox was, just that they would be the "Vee of the season". There's only so many times the same group of people can get clowned on before you stop taking them seriously, and I don't think anything the other two come up with will top Heaven Cannon. They could be main antagonists though, but the scale would have to be shrunken down and more personal. Valentino is more "local menace" than "literally Hitler" like Vox.
>>152284803Can we just admit these people weirdly fetishize trauma?>OH MY GOD! MENTALLY FUCKED IN THE HEAD CHARACTER HAS TRAUMA IN THEIR BACKSTORY!>OH MY GOD YES TRAUMA!>MORE TRAUMA MORE!You remember when a characters trauma and angst was meant to play into whatever psychology you designed for them? When it was just the backstory rather than the main course?
>>152284857>The Vees becoming HH team rocketI would be weirdly ok with it. But in all seriousness, it's obvious that Valentino will have more spotlight next season since it's more about Angel
>>152284031His power is directly tied to his popularity. He's fucked.
>>152280924Though I like the idea of Val being killed I don't think Viv will dispose of her fave character like that
>>152284944So now he's harmless lolTake that Vox
>>152285010Ntm he can't even move caus he's just a head so no menace at all
>>152284242>expecting a massive fujo like Vivzie to care about her female characters
>>152284841The racism could easily explain his obsession with manners. Still doesn’t explain the psychopathy and homocidal urges.
>>152279849I would like to see more of her because she makes dick hard, but it seems like a weird choice. I could see her being the B plot for the season, sure. But the main villain? With Alastor back to his normal strength and Vox no longer popularity boosted, the Vees shouldn't be much of a threat to the hotel if it came to a fight.You'd think Alastor would be looking for any chance to dunk on them to fix his reputation or that they would be afraid of a reprisal from Lucifer. Even if they know Lucifer himself can't harm them, there's nothing but Charlie's whims stopping him from having some Goetia or even the Sins themselves pay them a visit.
>>152285270The Vees still own a megacorp and (presumably) lots of soul contracts. Even without Vox they are still a threat.
>>152279849What did I miss?? Why are they already taking about season 4 when the third isn't even out yet?? Geesh
I wonder if besides Lute there will be another big threat in heaven
>>152284893It really is just a fetish for this kind of audience, if you go on websites like ao3 you'll find endless tags with "PTSD", "abusive past" and so on, they'll pretend it's for representation but they simply get off to it. There won't be any thematic weight to anything in this show, Viv imagines a cool scene and then her and her writing team brainstorm some flimsy excuse for it to happen (literally confirmed in her latest interview).
>>152285550Yeah it’s like how Angel keeps getting slapped around every season.
>>152285562The person who storyboarded his abuse scenes (episode 4 in season 1 and Vox torturing him in season 2) literally self-inserts as him and changed her name to "Tony", based off Angel's human name. I liked episode 4 at the time because it felt like the only one in the series that focused on its premise of redemption and exploring the sinners' motivations, but knowing it was all about the writers' barely disguised fetish kinda soured it for me. You can do all the self-indulgent shit you want, but don't make the characters worse and more passive for it.F Pilot Angel, at least you still had some snark.
>>152285820Gross I know from past stuff Raph had this weird kink but geesh I'm glad they left the show
>>152285888She's genuinely talented so it's still kind of a loss, it's just that everyone working on this show is batshit insane and needs someone to tardwrangle their ideas.Also random factoid, while looking at the credits I discovered the Italian Ministry of Culture is funding Hazbin Hotel, or at least the Italian studio they are outsourcing their animation to. Italy confirmed for loving gay spiders.
>>152282893I like the idea of her forging some scandal to push some other influencer thot into killing herself for Velvette to further her own career, and said killed thot's boyfriend found out Velvette was responsible, and hackex her to pieces with an axe.
>>152286933I wish we got more "picking up where we left off" plots with Sinners. So far we've got Mayberry and Martha and those two inventor guys.
>>152280353>more epic than Vox's Impossible.
>>152285820Daily reminder Raph is looking for a pimp to be withFuck Raph.
>>152281802>>152281896wasn't there a whole plot point about how angels could only be killed/hurt by angelic weapons? I'm genuinely asking I kinda remember something like that
>>152287753Vel most definitely has access to angelic steel. Lute really shouldn't be underestimated even though all she has is her own skills and sword, Niffty was able to beat Vel too.
>>152285010>>152285130>>152284944Ngl I thought it was kind of an asspull given popularity/approval ratings have never applied to any other Overlord before until Vox now. By this logic, how has Valentino been canceled into oblivion?
>>152287824*not been
>>152280892Engineered for angelic snuggles.
>>152287824It might've applied to Alastor if he hadn't made his deal with Rosie
>>152281896One of the most underrated parts of the show is how they handled Lute's virtue of obedience. Her readiness to remain obedient to the authority structure of Heaven is the only reason she hasn't fallen. She obeyed Abel's orders despite disagreeing fundamentally. I appreciate that exploration of how obedience fits in to the moral framework.
>>152284242>>152285211>make female a front and center villain>omg she heckin hates women>make female a less villainous secondary villain>omg she heckin hates womenGod you faggots are fucking insufferable.
>>152289434They don't see how the social media overlord can be a threat? The only thing holding Velvette back is the fact that she hasn't been in Hell as long as Vox and Val have.
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>>152287824>how has Valentino (not) been canceled into oblivion?Why? His movies are popular to the point they reached heaven. If anything he should be more powerful than Vox
>>152279849Now news of Roo So sad
>>152286070The italian version is great.
>>152279849What????????? Is she for real????? So what did she do till now?
>>152279849I'm so sick of them already
>>152290714had to obey amazon's 8 episodes per season limit
>>152290714Just guessing here but the show only getting 8 episodes a season killed a lot of her ideas and threw off the pacing. Like we might get midquel comics exploring those six months in season 1.
>>152290714Knowing Viv the rest of the story she want to tell us is shit
>>152280247Why is mawile in hell
>>152279849She’ll probably fart
>>152290524I genuinely don’t understand the need to drag them past season 3. Vox was interesting, yes,but his narrative feels complete now, unless they want a redemption arc for him. Val’s presence makes sense cause of Angel Dust. Velvette, however, feels harder to justifyI’m not sure what kind of conflict she could bring to the hotel that wouldn’t just feel like a repeat of what Vox already did.
Are Velvette's feet soft because she takes care of them, or calloused from harsh shoes that are stylish but uncomfortable?Would she be disgusted by someone wanting to worship them, or would having someone kiss, stroke, and massage her feet seem natural?
>>152279849unless season 3 gives her a lot more depth,saving her for last just feels kinda random!She’s the only Vee without a real personal connection to the main cast
>>152291226Yeah, I just don’t really see Velvette working as a main antagonist for season 4. Even with Vox, the story kind of had to nerf the protagonists a bit to keep him around for so many episodes. And at this point, the cast is clearly moving toward way bigger threats, so having an entire season centered on Velvette feels a little off
>>152280378When will it his moment of glory??
>>152279849sex with the british midget
>>152291788That "midget" is 7 feet tall!
>>152290481He's basically a pimp Harvey Weinstein
She's so cool.
>>152290756They carried season 2.
>>152279849Can fall from the sky, hit the ground, break into peices, and be ok.Is she like actually immortal?She might be scarier then alastor.Alastor got a tear in his chest.She kinda seems untouchable, for now.How does her body work?Does she get power from her followers like vox did? But she knows how to use demon magic better?Is there some flaw or weakness like kryptonite we will learn of later?
>>152291906And apparently season 3 and 4 That's enough of them please We need new villains
>>152291932>Does she get power from her followers like vox did?That is how all overlords work.
>>152291932How about burning her?It worked pretty Well with witches Like her
>>152285270>there's nothing but Charlie's whims stopping him from having some Goetia or even the Sins themselves pay them a visit.I call it, intellectual property problems between two studios.
>>152291932All sinners are technically immortal until hit by angelic steel, and even then it must be a mortal blow. Vel didn't show anything impressive at all
>>152291670>main antagonist for season 4They never sad that.
>>152287943>"And then he complimented me on my exercise techniques. Of course he went real quiet after that and went to the bathroom a lot but yay!"
>>152280175>>152280247who melissa
>>152292270They didn't but it's heavily implied
>>152292085Problem is that the other villains suck and if you've seen Vivziepop's track record of villains on how she usually writes them (see Helluva Boss), the Vees are as good as it gets.
>>152291932She's a doll. The sockets pop in and out but her individual pieces can still break individually ie a stab wound or slice
>>152291932>>152292162>>152292374Yes but she can Still regenerate It's not like you killed her Burning her is a better solution Apparently in a helluva boss there is a fire that can actually hurt hellborns so why not that working on sinners too!!
>>152284619>>152284857yeah s3 is probably going to be half charlie family drama and half angel drama, valentino will be a key antag for the latter but probably won't be involved in the former
>>152280887Anon this just in there has been a new number discovered between 2 and 4
>>152282116I don't understand, I was a faggot with fujo friends then and I'm a faggot with fujo friends now. People liking different flavors of fiction doesn't make them your enemy?
>>152289434People just love to seethe about this show for any reason their lunatic logic can muster, nothing you can do about it other than literally wait for them to grow up and maybe be slightly less retarded
>>152287824He's the TV demon. TV ratings. It's really not that complex
when they say they're going to focus on the morningstar I hope it won't be mostly on the Lucifer and Lilith situation l hope they'll focus on Charlie too
>>152292624it's going to be all charlie/lilith drama while lucifer does nothing but simp for lilith
>>152292624Any news of Mimzy coming back??
>>152283072>>152283091Velvette was the one who wanted to fight Heaven in S1, and still wanted to do it in S2 but just didn't support Vox making it about his obsession with Alastor.Velvette and a completely lost it Lute are going to collaborate to restart the War, as Velvette seduces her down to hell whilst singing a corrupted reprise of Easy.
>>152280378>Wait I don't think the show is going to have a 7th/8th season!!!>Top rated amazon show in almost every country its offered in by a massive margin. >As an animated musical&autismfest>Translated in like what a dozen languages Amazon aint letting go of this shit, its their own reddit&memey. Plus the fact amazon has the rights to hellva boss now, boom crossovers/side stories/spinoffs.Its staying till 2030 the earliest. This is the company that wasted 1 billion dollars creating lord of da rangz search 4 da blixcky tv show that people hated so much. The DEI funding it got was due to massive Jew rage they have been on a tangent re-writing history lately attacking all classical authors who are not Jewish. Remaking/ruining their work purely out of spite, just look at that kike garbage have you seen the new animal farm 3D animation Seth Rogen worked on. Subverting/destroying/Jew washing Tolkien works completely slaughtering all future thoughts and discussion regarding LOTR. Because their bots will only bring up rings of power in the future now and how in reality Tolkein was a horrid writer, as all non-jews are. They're not allowed to be considered great/influential.However because of this and all there other garbage shows, people have been unsubbing because all the make is garbage.HH&HB are the only shows they have now that people legit want to watch, they have been hardly meddling in the shows production because its raking in money and they dont want to kill their golden goose. This would legit kill prime as a service because unlike 95% of the garbage they created/funded. No one asked for most their shows to be made or care about them even with good funding. The production is somehow absolutely fucking terrible. HH as an animation is a breath of fresh air when it comes to western animation hence why its popular. Hopefully we really do see a revivle in western animation because of all these indie projects getting funding and studios not meddling.
>>152292325She really is like a clone of Charlie, why are all the best girls so darn sweet?Wife material in its purest form.
>>152279849Couldn't we have Zestial has villain?????
I only care about the Vees, especially Vox. All three deserve to be in a better show than fujobait Vivzieslop. I hate that I got attached to those goofballs.Vox my beloved, he better get some power back and become somewhat of a good boy, boosting his rank further. He's not at rock bottom zero approval and still owns hundreds of souls. There's Spindlehorse staff that loves Vox so I hope and cope.I need that comfy Vees spinoff, preferably not written by Viv. She is good at creating interesting cool characters but when it comes to plot and lore, it's pretty trash.
>>152293023Turns out being nice to people can sometimes pay off.
>>152292670>implying you wouldn't
I hope for more radiojoy moments in the new season
I still don't get it why Charlie didn't beat hell out of Vox when she had the chance
>>152295614>why doesn't this character act wildly ooc, that's bad writing!!!
>>152292774That would be hot as fuck.
>>152295197Would be funny if their relationship was kind of one sided like Adam and Lute.
>>152295614At best she'd throw fireworks in his face and then apologize profusely when she finds out she scratched his screen. She even defended Adam after he killed her friend right in front of her.
>>152295614>>152295721She needs to take some lessons in evilness from Roo
>>152295276Straight crackships are pure cinema. Love them. Emily could fix Alastor. I also adore Staticbelle. These two cute autists are literally the same.
Will they ever explain why Rosie is the only sinner who can contact people on earth?
>>152295827Yes totally agree with You And yes I Love staticbelle too
>>152295827>>152295970I like how it works as platonic or romantic. Would be cute to see Charlie helping Vox get over his Alastair complex.
>>152295970>>152295986Yess, I believe there is a good chance Vox will get Charlie therapy and that's how she finds out what a piece of shit Alastor really is.I like them romantic, but platonic friends is awesome as well.
>>152296116They kinda already confirmed that Vox will get a redemption arc so it's not impossible that Charlie will try to help him.
>>152296258Yeah, I know. I have a theory it's actually Vox calling Charlie (forced by the the other Vees, maybe to apologize) at the end of s2, spoofing Lilith's number so she'd pick up.
>>152279849Sera would be a better villain than her lol
>>152295838Simple, she's really Lilith.
>>152293896I bet she smells like cotton candy.
>>152296992Lilith is in heaven though.
>>152297304That's Eve, who's masquerading as Lilith. The real Lilith is Rosie.
What's the worst or boring character of hazbin and helluva and why
>>152297545It's a toss up between Blitzo, Stolas and Angel Dust. All three exemplify the worst aspects of gay men, hog all the spotlight and are dreadfully irritating.Throw Vaggie in there too. She's hot, yeah, but goddamn is she boring and pointless.
>>152281976I knowthat's why it's so sad that Velvette is dying at the end of season 4, such a tragedy
>>152290524This is a bold move considering most shows barely last 2 seasons. Her as a creator I'm sure would hate not being able to finish her story.
>>152298473They are already greenlit for 4 seasons and she wants to end in 5.
>>152297545Angel Dust and Vaggie
>>152297545Angel Dust, specifically S2 Angel Dust. He just exists to be abused and made the audience feel bad for him.
New full Vivziepop interview in case anyone is interested:https://youtube.com/watch?v=CnAPkhOyt_Q[23:25]>Do you ever worry that you're just going to forget something?>All the time? (raughs) I think there was at one point um a big plot point where I was like, "Oh, this is so good. It's like a twist. It's like one of the villains tricks another character and and then the other character gets the upper hand and it'sreally clever." I completely lost it. But the good news is, you know, we came up with something else and I think it's equally good as the thing I can't remember. I don't know. Maybe the other thing was better. But yeah, there because I don't write things. I write down scenes.I wonder what the plot twist she literally forgot was supposed to be.
>>152299468The ending will stay the same one she planned from the pilot days>whether people love or hate the ending of Hazbin, it was always destined to be a certain way. And I can take solace in that and I'm very proud of it and I love how it ends.>I think it's very presumptuous of a writer to be like, I had the whole thing from the word, but it's kind of true with Hazbin. >We were making the pilot for two years and I had two years to sit there and go, where do I want this to go? And I have ADHD and I'm a crazy visionary and all I think about are my characters. >So much has changed cuz that's what naturally happens. But there's there's no different ending now.
Sad news for Radiostatic shippers>Is the torn picture of Alastor and Vox going to be relevant?>No, not the picture. Like, I feel like the picture is relevant to the characters, but I think it was more just visual storytelling of like the fact that I think Vox still has his part of the picture. >I highly doubt Alastor has the other part. >I mean, I feel like it's probably Vox's picture and he just tore Alastor out of it so that he wouldn't be in it. And so maybe his maybe he has both sides. >I think if people secretly think that Alastor has the other half... I'm so sorry he's not a very sentimental guy in that way. I think it's probably very long gone
>>152299705>And I have ADHDGee, I never would've guessed...
>>152299884It drives me mad that she always answers the questions with "I think", "probably", "I feel". Bitch you wrote this story and these characters.
Other stuff from the interview, Viv says the show itself feels more like the adaptation of a comic that doesn't exist (yet), as she didn't get to add all the storylines and characters she wanted to>I don't think I've properly told this whole story, so this is fun. My hope is someday to do like a comic adaptation>And so, yeah, maybe someday there's a version with all these characters and these plots and all these things that I didn't put into the show, but I I just want everyone to know I'm thinking about it and like yes, there have been characters cut from the show to save room for the actual characters we see. So, every character that's in the show, at least every character with like a meaningful moment is there for a reason because they serve a very important narrative purpose
>>152295614It's just not who she is. Charlie is a pacifist to a fault, specifically the hypocritical type that will accept people fighting on her behalf but would never harm someone to protect another. Vox could have slaughtered every hotel resident and fucked Vaggie's vaggie right infront of Charlie, and she still wouldn't throw a serious punch. Alastor sadistically ripping Vox apart, however, is acceptable.
>>152299468Thanks anon for the link.Viv said she loves Vox, and previously said he will be relevant until the end. Voxbros I'm thinking we're safe.>>152299845I mean, Vox used the picture of Alastor for satanic rituals and it was Vox's picture. He lets Val display the picture of them and kept the one with Alastor to show others "yeah this is me 50 years ago", he just ripped Al off of it. The photo was just a throwaway gag, shippers just get attached to the smallest things. I personally don't like VoxAl, I know a lot of people do, but it was obvious it would never be canon, sorry guys. Viv wouldn't retcon Alastor's asexuality, that would make twitter explode.>>152300342>Vaggie's vaggieI still hate her name "change", she should've been Vagatha and just go by Vaggie.Her original Zoophobia name was Vagyna though, can't get any worse than that at least.
>>152300265>So, every character that's in the show, at least every character with like a meaningful moment is there for a reason because they serve a very important narrative purposeMimzy exists so I doubt that
>>152300265RIP Crymini then
>>152300495Mimzi's gonna do some lore dump about Alastor
>>152300342Not to mention>Vox is permakilling sinners all over Pentagram City with his angelic Lucicannon >instead of intervening immediately, Charlie rescues sinners from the debris to show the audience how much of a compassionate heroine she is, forgetting that they can fucking regenerate from this kind of damage>Based Velvette is the one who saves the day by kicking Vox off the weaponDishonest filmmaking at its finest.
>>152299468>I really want Baxter to have a song, and it might not have happened yet, but again, before the show is over, it's going to happen.Baxterbros rejoice (the three of you)
>>152299468Crumbs for Adam and Lute fans>they feel bad about killing Adam early but they’ll keep him around in flashbacks, Lute’s hallucinations and “other things”>Adam, Lute and Abel would sound great together and Vivzie may or may not have a song with the 3 of them together
>>152300732He gets all the hot cyclops
>>152299468>8 episodes may or may not change in Hazbin on the future Finally
Is there sun in hell?
>>152299468If she keeps forgetting her own story how can she make the comic book about the story was supposed to be thenDid she really think a camo book bcan fix her messed up story?
>>152300265>>152300550>>152300495 Rip Seviathan and his sister
>>152302392So Charlie never had a boyfriend now
>>152302409She & but he's not relevant anymore and probably will never be show
>>152301940Can ask the same thing for the firefighter?? In hell??? What the
>>152303248what is it you don't understand? Imps are immune to fire but fire still causes property damage.
>>152302409No you can see their prom photo on the wall in the show at one point. I'm guessing he just won't show up now.
>>152303273Explain why there's rehab in hell than lol
>>152303403Hellborn, Imps and Hellhounds live normal regular lives, they have the same needs a regular society has, hence why they need healthcare, etc.
>>152299992An author that doesn't even remember their on story it's a first How come she doesn't remember her own plot?
>>152280680Captain N version would want to do a sex with Velvette.
>>152303456If it's your first fictional story, yes. In reality it's very common for authors to have a general plot of their story (like beginning, main characters and ending) and add stuff as it comes to mind, usually randomly, and if they don't write it down it usually gets forgotten. Why do you think old GRRM stalled on his story? He knows how he wants to end it, had an idea at the beginning of the last book but forgot it along the way, wrote himself into a corner and doesn't know how to get there. And don't even get me started on massive stuff with multiple writers
>>152300732Fuck yeah!
>>152300550She at least was in the pilot though.
>>152280229Christ both Viv's shows are basically urban fantasy Hi Fi Rush but without the allowance of a protagonist like Chai to fuck up villain's designs. Chai legit does a better job as a protagonist than both Blitzo and Charlie while being an arguably more charming idiot manchild than those two.
>>152300860>Adam, Lute and Abel would sound great together and Vivzie may or may not have a song with the 3 of them togetherThat would be great, but how come??
>>152280657>>152295614Regarding these posts and their content, the admittedly retarded point the show is trying to have is how "only those who suffer can fight and be dangerous" along with the trend of "violence isn't the answer." While I love Undertale and enjoyed Steven Universe at times, they set a precedent that is to be followed by moralfag retards like most of the homos on tumblr. I too want Charlie to actually have some fucking teeth, even going Steven Universe or Captain America blocking that Might of Lilith to show her heroic brawn contrasting with the more cunning and manipulative Vees. Thinking Disney's Hercules and Quasimodo to their film's antagonists, even those two heroes were not pansy-asses who just rolled over but were shown to have a willingness to jump in harms way to protect others which Charlie fucking lacks. Sera too, I expected her to be more like Blue Diamond (even looking like her) and intercept a second shot from the laser cannon like a Dragon Ball character to show her power but restrained. Demonstrating her status and it would have been cooler for her to go full on Biblical epic film declaration of her actions that she cast out Lucifer her self with her bare hands like how Ramses in Prince of Egypt
>>152303815I'm still holding out hope that Charlie's extreme but hypocritical pacifism (I'm not going to get my hands dirty EVER but Alastor can happily devour those noisy sinners and destroy half the city and himself to throw hands with Vox) will become a discussed plot point eventually. Because it's a fucking interesting side to develop on a character like Charlie
Have some Mimzy, on the house
>>152282893accident in a mannequin factory she was using for a fashion brand
>>152303880During the pilot days I always expected she would do more 1 on 1 conversations with each of the hotel guests. It's fine that the pacifist princess doesn't fight but she sucks at a therapist too. Charlie has to really lock in for season 3.
I feel like this show heavily squanders it's potential.
>Lute and Lillith will do nothing for THREE MORE FUCKING YEARSGet real Viv, you'll have a heart attack by then.
>>152303815I need some more screentime with Sera and the Speaker of God too I hope they won't let her sink into the nothing
Have someone leaked the show already?? I think I've heard someone venting about it
>>152297545I fucking hate this guy Awful dad and lover Just terrible in general
>>152304201What do you mean no Lute for 3 years I won't survive that long without my girl!!!!
>>152279849I don't understand why they couldn't keep Lucifer as the bad guy Why do that have to make him so childish????
>>152297545It's tough competition, but I'll say S2 made it Charlie. She comes across as a shallow, hypocritical idiot who never listens to anyone, even the people she says she's helping.That would be fine if it was deliberate, but the writers just fucked up and refuse to admit it. She did fuck all at the climax and she's supposed to be the protag.
>>152297545Angel Dust After the pilot he isn't like he used to be He ain't funny anymore ( ntm I don't really like his new voice actor, Michael was more fit the role) and I don't like him forcedly shipped with husk
>>152304460I can never get over the fact that he's like 30.
>>152304588His funny upbeat side from the pilot is completely gone. He's just a damsel and a punching bag now. I doubt the next season will fix that.
>>152304568He's the creator's pet and this means undergoing the same uwuification process Stolas went through. Being the favorite of a hardcore fujo with an angst fetish means your character won't get cooler, only more pathetic.
>>152304588Feels like Jax from TADC is what Pilot Angel's personality was supposed to be like, what with the nihilistic troublemaker façade to hide his weakness and all (only less horny).Season 3 is gonna be rough.
>>152297545My very least favourite Pretty useless character and her relationship with Mayberry makes zero sense Just to add a w/w ship and honestly unnecessary and badly written
>>152279849I can already tell neither Lute nor Lilith will do much this next seasonSee you girls somewhere in the last season
>>152304091For a series that hypes up the power of music so much, Charlie doesn't have a single sing-off where she confronts the villains, challenges their ideology and actually looks cool in it (closest thing is maybe the You Didn't Know reprise, but I mean an actual confrontation, it seems like the most obvious thing to do for the protagonist of a musical). You don't want her to fight, fine, at least show her conviction in other ways.
>>152305072Hes more like Jax now because he's way more aggressive than he was in the pilot.
>>152305237I mean, something likehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=k0SWaGfkPxAOr, since we're talking about innocent princesses, evenhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=8C7npTee554
>>152304568I wanna sodomize lucifer
>>152279849A shame shes a lesbian. At least fox still fucks men
>>152297545Definitely Pentious I like him, but it's a bit boring and mostly used as a joke and his relationship with Cherri is a bit forced
>>152305841The "romance" with Cherri sucks but I still think he got the best deal out of everyone else in the show, from comic relief used for a shitty gangbang joke to the first ever redeemed soul that the literal seraphim go to for advice. He'll probably be completely irrelevant after season 2 but I think he had a decent run.
>>152297545Lute cause she's did nothing She let Abel stop her way too easily I know it's due to her obedience, still all talk and no action
Which one of these two is right??
>>152306165https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnAPkhOyt_Q&t=4274>how many episodes is it now? It's eight eight and eight, right?>And I can't reveal if that changes. Yeah. >May or may not change.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnAPkhOyt_Q&t=5560>will seasons 3 and 4 have more episodes?>I can't answet thatSo I'm guessing they're begging Amazon to give them more eps but there's no clear answer.
>>1523063313 is already done in voice acting, with 4 almost there too, so if there'll be a negotiation it will be for season 5. I guess they're working to get both more seasons and more episodes per season
>>152304576>She comes across as a shallow, hypocritical idiot who never listens to anyoneSounds like Vivziepop. Which makes sense, considering Charlie is her self-insert.
>>152306331I really don't think Amazon will give them anything extraThat's why she said she wants to make a comic of the show, cause this isn't the story wanted to tell! So now I'm questioning why did she even accept to give her show to Amazon in the first place! She should have stick to the indie production!!
>>152304588THIS. He's completely unrecognizable now
>>152304588He exists solely to be tortured by other men. Fujos are fucking gross man.
>>152303976Thank you, I want her badly.
>>152304568I like him best as an evil asshole too
>>152297545Lucifer They made him look so stupid, pathetic and useless He's supposed to rule hell, but in actuality he does nothing (not even helping at the hotel), totally useless I'm really disappointed at what they did to this character I prefer when in the pilot he was supposed to be the one against the hotel idea and always telling Charlie it was a waste it time I would have loved to see that
Summarised news
>>152297545Fucking hate this guy No need to tell you whyWe all know
>>152308110Angel literally begs for it.
>>152308110I love Val.
>>152308110Val is based. I only dislike that he gets a free pass from most of the fandom (including Viv), while the same people hate Stella even though she's done far less.
I want to feel him.
>>152308233Never understood why they hate more on Stella than him He's and has done far worse things than Stella
>>152307851At least Speaker of God is still important and there's gonna be more about her
>>152308275Fujo being fujo
>>152308110The best Valentino has ever been written in Hazbin is in the Dirty Healings comic. He’s not as loud or overly aggressive as he is in the show, he only swears once, he’s not a dumbass, and that just makes him way more terrifying.
>>152308275There's no great mystery: most of them schlick to the abuse / rape aspect. Why do you think women write love letters to serial killers and other men of questionable morality? Stella, on the other hand, is an enemy of precious gay beans and gets no free pass. That, and nobody hates women more than other women.
Do you like s1 Val or s2 Val?
>>152279849Velvette is a cute.
>>152307851>HB was never supposed to be episodic like the pilot suggests"Wrong, Viv herself said itread thishttps://drive.google.com/file/d/13mfi5h-C6sByFLVnJkqx8WFqtNaaDGna/view?usp=drivesdk
>>152308384The pilot one and the comic they make
>>152308384S2 Val felt too dumbed down, like they were trying to strip him of accountability or make him sympathetic. So, for me, it's S1 Val.
>>152308275Just regular misogyny is at play however, Val is just a more entertaining character to watch then Stella is.
Do any of you have a Hazbin oc?
>>152306331>>152307851Am I the only one confused by all of this nonsense??
>>152308625>The overall idea is just a group of crazy demon cartoon characters who work as assassins, stuck doing mundane things! >Treating their violent work like a day job with a weirdo boss. Trying to work together to get clients and run a successful business in Hell of all places!
>>152309045This interview gives a lot of insight into the thought process behind the show, which is to say: none.
>>152297545Katie Killjoy, though IDK if they count because it's practically not even the same character but just Brandon Rodgers wearing Katie's skin and masquerading with her name on. Not only does Brandon Rogers suck ass in the role, but the jokes aren't funny and everytime their on screen makes me want to punch someone and seriously detracts the quality everytime she's on. Should be written out or at least recast with an actual woman to be less grating.
>>152297545Honestly I don't like Velvette very much She's a bit boring And in all honesty I prefer her older pilot version
>>152309458Definitely I prefer herShe looked crazier
>>152308384I like S2 for showing he’s not just a one dimensional abusive rapist pimp. Really humanizes him showing he’s a goof when hanging out with the other Vees, plus having genuine affection for Vox and Vel. I especially love how it pisses so many people off, exposing them as fucking hypocrites who say they love villains with layers, unless it’s one who commits a no-no crime they don’t like.
>>152309717Wild to me that the rapist pimp moth is allowed to be given more depth and character than the literal First Man.
>>152308384Neither. >>152308677The only correct answer (PS, his Voxtagram posts were fucking hysterical also). Ironically, it seems as they were trying to make him "better" in the show, they failed and made him even more unlikeable to me.
>>152308341AGREED.
>>152309775Just because Adam's dead doesn't mean his character can't get more exploration in the future.
>>152309786Voxtagram Valentino was so unhinged>killed his own pet dog>abused Vox>had an ongoing beef with Stolas
>>152309717He gets the funniest lines.
Fact: the worst possible punishment for Velvette would be forcing her to wear this forever.
>>152309042I want to make one sometime.
>>152303815The Steven comparisons are apt because say whatever you want about his show, his empathy is actually shown through his actions unlike with Charlie (ironically her "weapon" of choice is also a shield but we'll probably never see her have a moment like this because the writers don't care about her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4u0PgZbNo0)
>>152279849She did a good job with Vox, and Velvette kills any scene she's in so that could work. You'd have to lean into the angle of Velvette being very good at reading people
>>152309795As if you couldn't just do shit with him while he was alive? Copium, he's fucking dead, there's very little on what you can do with him now.
>>152309891It was perfect for that and I was expecting him to be like that in the show, which unfortunately, he was not.
>>152282107And by female characters you mean Vaggie/Vagatha, right?
>>152299992To be fair, tv writing is more like a round table than it is the solid creator intent vessel that a writer writing a book would have. At least, so I've heard I have no idea how this shit works
>>152311939>As if you couldn't just do shit with him while he was alive?I didn't say you couldn't lol I said you could still explore him even though he's dead.
>>152312115I feel that if he had any nuance we would have already gotten a scene where he told his version of events to Charlie to break the perfect image she had of her parents (instead his entire motivation was "I love killing sinners lolololol"), but at this point I'll accept any retcon if it improves the story at least a little bit
>>152312214>I feel that if he had any nuance we would have already gotten a scene where he told his version of events to Charlie to break the perfect image she had of her parentsWell that's most likely going to be Eve, who arguably bears the brunt of what happened much more than Adam, who got an unquestioned ride to Heaven and given a position of power in it, does. Adam going "btw your parents were manipulative dicks towards Eve" doesn't really mean anything.
>>152308110>>152308272>>152309717Val is awesome. I love the Vees family. Need a lighthearted feelgood comedy series with them>>152309891While hilarious as fuck, this mfer literally broke Vox's screen multiple times, I don't know where they were going with his character in these. I'm a Vox lover, so I'm glad Val is not abusive to him lol.>>152311659Is this from a card? I'm thinking it's not real.
They always put them together lol
>>152312575He only sees the glow of the lämp>>152312909They did because Charlie is the main character and Alastor (used to be) Viv's favorite and her husbando, as well as fave of the fans. The pilot thumbnail evidences this as well
My favorite overlord is Carmilla, love the knife feet, her hair, her big arms and her voice so much!!
>>152312115>>152311939Assuming he can't be dragged through the mud even in death as showcased by that nothingburger of a vaggie flashback in s2
>>152313461That wasn't dragging him through the mud that was the writing following through on his already established character lol
>>152297545Baxter I love him but not how is writing He did nothing all season and I really don't get how he became friend with Vaggie and all the other It's not clear
>>152297545Blitzo I used to like him, but they kinda ruin it for me ntm all the stoliz shit Total disaster Reminds me a lot of BoJack Horseman in some ways
>>152313817>Reminds me a lot of BoJack Horseman in some waysBoy you're not gonna believe who's like the major inspiration for Blitzo lol
>>152297545He killed his own wife and hates and disrespect his son
>Vox can just become a TV head without a body>Velvette can just become a doll head without a bodyValentino will be revealed to just be a Worm/ Moth Larva piloting a tall mech suit body and it will be destroyed, the neck fluff is either hiding the seam where he slots his bug body into the suit or that's all his actual body actually is with some stubby bug legs hidden under the fluff like some breeds of caterpillar or moth larvae do.
>>152313817I hate how we are all supposed to feel bad for Blitzo cause he's the MC of the show, but I can't summon any sympathy for him.He's a fucking asshole, like even in hell that's full of assholes he somehow is so over the top that people literally come together every year to hate on him because he's THAT much of a prick.
>>152297545Used to be so cool Now he's fucking stupid and apparently he's gonna be even more incompetent I think they made.him like that on purpose, he was becoming popular and that would have overshadowed Blitz and his love story
Do Adam next.
>>152314337Silly, Adam was already the seasonal villain.
>>152309049>>152308625>
So basically there won't be Hellsa and her family won't be the show Never everThat's bad
>>152279849They made her a lesbian because one of the animators had a crush on her and asked them to
Can somebody explain to me why the angel left all their weapons behind??I've always thought they vaporise after a certain amount of time spent in heaven!!
>>152315188I don't know. Maybe their owners died or maybe Heaven has so many they don't give enough of a shit to go after lost spears.
>>152297545Sally May Pretty useless character
Horrifying
>>152315158For real?
>>152308110Shut up, Angel.
>>152315188I feel like Adam decided they should leave weapons behind so then the Sinners can use them on each other, so it thins them out even during the rest of the year between exterminations.
Can we have Lucifer a little bit more well written please?!! Like the real king of hell!!!
>>152280279Laziest doll girl design everFuck you viv you fat fucking pig
>>152315844Nobody does something in that damn show
Convenient this thread is up, I just went through the entire 2nd season. Kinda felt like a whole lotta nothing though especially since Vox wasn't even killed in the end.I guess plot wise, demons know they can be redeemed and Alaster got out of his deal? Plus felt the demon who got pumped and dumped by the Vees in the first episode would have more screen time, but nope.>>152280462>>152280495>>152283466Would be fun if Lute commits treason because her loyalty becomes misplaced to her schizo version of Adam, but instead of being killed, she's stripped of her wings and halo and becomes a fallen angel like Vaggie, but is restricted by the same rules as luicifer where she can't kill any demon and is forced to live in the hotel.
>>152279849So why didn't Vel and Val just kill Vox since he made it clear he didn't give a shit about either of them throughout the season?
>>152316043Maybe cause Viv doesn't think vox has done something wrong lolTurning his back on them was totally fine in her eye
Any news about hazbin/helluva crossover yet???
>>152316384Blitzo gets Charlie pregnant.
>>152316043They're family
>>152316384Nope. Looks like we’ll be waiting a long time before the real crossover is finally released
>>152315188They're trained to fight not to think.
>>152302409Is Charlie a dog? Her nose is very hound like.
>>152307851Oh shit here's we go again What's this mess even all about
>>152317778iirc she's meant to be a lamb/goat
>>152279849Her as a villain doesn't make any sense What kind of evil plan will she ever have?She didn't seem to care about vox' plan in the first place! She was happy the way she was and didn't wanted to change anything What can she possibly want now??
>>152318411>What can she possibly want now??My love.
>>152318669I wonder if inside that doll there's a heart st all!!!
>>152282893>livestreamed her fifth plastic surgery she was doing to promote the surgeon and died during it
>>152286070>ItalyThe VIXI stitches were on purpose then
>>152286070>or at least the Italian studio they are outsourcing their animation toIt's this one. They fund pretty much every form of animation and most films, regardless of content
Is this Val's canon human version????
>>152319007>>152319007>This episode (4) was co-outsourced to DogHead Animation in Florence, ItalyIt could actually be
>>152318411>What can she possibly want now??I said further up thread but the Hotel is still technically a threat to the Vees because if souls are being redeemed that's less power for them.>>152319220The actual are of Val is suspiciously higher quality compared to the rest of the picture so I'm thinking this is done by a fan. The glitter texture seems off too.
>>152319220This is a real card apparently
>>152319220>>152320129Does that mean there's a human Velvette card?
>>152319220It's fake.
>>152320138Well probably there will be one day
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I wonder if she'll ever separate from the other two vees!! Or just from VoxI mean he almost ruined their bond when he tried to kill everyone!!
>>152316384i doubt it's going to go much beyond stuff like the sins and goetia turning up in hazbin
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>>152320778She won't. Obviously she and Val are angry at Vox, but that's like being angry at your child. The kid fucked up and you're reasonably mad, but you still love them.Considering Val and Vel's conversation, this isn't the first time Vox lost his mind like that, it was just extreme this time, probably because of Alastor constantly baiting and messing with him. TV man is very mentally unstable and Al knowingly abused it. Vox with some therapy would be unstoppable. Get on it Charlie.
>>152280657Charlie isn't bound by the can't kill sinners rule so why doesn't Lucifer use her to bully the people of hell?
>>152279849>season 4 What happened to Season THREE?
>>152285888>>152286070>>152287727Its honestly really entertaining. Part of "barely disguised fetish" is supposed to be, y'know, not letting people know you have the fucking fetish.And the fetishism was well disguised. Tons of people defended the scene until the twitter was found
>>152321595Isn't the big problem that the Vs want to be a team but Vox is an egotistical fuck who wants everything to be about himself so he'll inevitably backstab everyone if he feels they are a liability? It really felt like they were leading up to Vel and Val both turning on Vox because they were sick of being treated as pawns who do all the work while Vox gets all the credit.
>>152304229This. Literally the best characters and the heart of the show.
>>152323997Yeah, and despite all that they still saved him.I think they kinda know how Vox is, and tolerate it for the most part. He's got a huge ego, but he genuinely loves and cares for the Vees. S3 will have him reflect on that and realize how bad he treated them. He is a psycho, yes, but unlike Alastor he still has his humanity.
These came out prior to the interview, which suggests Viv may have been anticipating some backlash to her remarks.
>>152325391tbf almost everything she said gets misinterpreted or people jump to conclusions
>>152279849Beside trying to take over hell what else could she want?? There's not much to do down in hell
>>152297545Vox He's a big cry baby with boring motives
>>152325764In terms of lower stakes, the most popular girl in hell given she's always on social media?
>>152325764Maybe she becomes a villain for revenge????Who knows! Maybe one of the other 2 vees dies (either killed by alastor or Charlie or Vaggie or some other) so she wants to avenge him!
>>152325826They already did that! With Lute! Except they still haven't done it yet and still need to do it!
I'm definitely concerned about what he is gonna do to Charlie once he gets he's claws on her
>>152279849Vox worked well, and Velvette has a fun personality and already kills in any song she sings in. it'll work well I bet.
>>152280378>Alastor is such a wasted characterhis s2 arc was kino with 10/10 payoff, what are you on
>>152315946>I guess plot wise, demons know they can be redeemed and Alaster got out of his deal?and angel dust is trapped on the villain's side. it's reasonable progress for 8 episodes.
>>152326397It would be if his retarded VA hadn’t confirmed that he was “aroace” since he was clearly written as a faggot.
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>>152326438Why is she white?
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>>152325391No this was about a recent Sam Haft interview where he said they changed a Valentino part and people thought they did it to avoid backlash but apparently it was just ooc.
>>152326454Because it's a cosplayer
>Watch part of the broadway show>That girl to boy ratio in the audience Maybe I've been living under a rock, but didn't expect it to be that lopsided.
>>152326402Also i does nothing at or for the hotel I don't even know why is he there in the first place!!
>>152326397For the whole season he was either Rose' s puppet/toy/slave and Vox' prisonerI mean he was tied up on a chair the whole timeHe did something towards the end, and was almost defeated Sooo
>>152326619And here I thought that the teachers crying online because kids nowadays can't read were overreacting
>>152280108I need to rewatch. I didn't notice this cool doll foreshadowing joke.
>>152280108Where's the back of her head?
>>152297545VaggieToo boring and she's too attached to Charlie She needs her own arc also what kind of joke is this?? Is it supposed to be funny? Couldn't they change her name into Vagatha instead?
>>152318411Well analyzing what the show seems to structrually tell us about Velvette - she's sharp as a whip and can identify cracks in plans and actions pretty easily.What this would mean for her as a villain would be less an evil mastermind scheme like Vox had, and more a hijacking of actions by the protagonists for her own ends. Basically she's opportunistic and smart that'd be the threat vector
>>152326460*looks at Val**blushes*
>>152316384Imagine Katie Killjoy talking to Blitzo lol
>>152327243I actually find her sexy. Just on mute
>>152327243Imagine them fucking Brandon performing self-love
>>152282494>>152282509>>152282662For reference, Velvette's VA is one of those nepobabies who proved talented and hardworking enough to step out of their parent's shadow on the same general career path.She's probably uninterested because she's one who does seem really satisfied with just being a broadway/stage performer which is her specialty.
>>152327272I like Brandon but I feel like changing Katie's VA to him was the wrong move. I know one of his iconic skit characters is basically just Katie as an Exec but that skit character was emulating a very real type of woman that the original VA nailed
>>152327467Velvette needs more songs, nepobaby or not.
>>152327473Faye Mata did a wonderful job dubbing her I've never understood why they had to replace her with Brandon among other things!! Wasn't doing Helluva boss not enough for him??? I miss all the old cast desu
Have u guys seen the new hazbin merch??What the hell??The Hazbin merch team picked a roach over Lute.That honestly says everything about how little they care about the Heaven characters. It’s not even funny anymore.No Lucifer. No Emily no Abel no nothing
>>152327756Holy kek, most of the illustrations on those cards are so lazy, it has to be a scam at this point
>>152327667One of the stupidest things I've noticed that online indie projects do is the moment they get successful enough. They almost get complexes about how "legitimate" they are and stop hiring online talent or relative unknowns for their voice work. A shit ton of Rooster Teeth's budget was spent grabbing as many funimation actors as possible BEFORE their WB buyoutIt's a very "fuck you got mine" attitude that seems to be one of the reasons this indie online scene keeps dying
>>152327773man tv head characters are so lame
>>152326397>10/10 payoffAlastor's plan hinged on everybody being a complete retard to help Vox's rise to power and>Charlie being OOC and not rescuing him until it was required by the story>Vox never touching or approaching Charlie before the great celebration>Lucifer being a literal lobotomite so that he could get captured and used as a bargaining chip>Charlie and Vox acting like predictable puppets and being at the right place at the right time while the entirety of hell listens to them>the rules of demonic deals never being explained and working according to plot convenienceIt was BBC Sherlock tier
>>152328664It's keikaku writing.Good keikaku writing demonstrates how a character knows how certain individuals think and the general reaction they have to certain things allowing them to manipulate events to their favor.>I know that x tends to get anxious and distracted when y happens which will cause z detail to slip their attention. Which is precisely what I need!Bad keikaku writing hinges on the character being a mind wizard who conveniently predicts every action that everyone will take no matter how specific including the exact moment said action will happen. Their plans hinge so much on >I know x will do this specific thing at this specific point of time and place in this specific manner, meaning y will react at this specific point of time in this specific manner which enables me to take advantage of z thing happening in at this specific point of time in place as the inevitable result of x and y!
>>152328664>For the whole season he was either Rose' s puppet/toy/slave and Vox' prisonerI mean he was tied up on a chair the whole timeHe did something towards the end, and was almost defeatedSoooYep totally wasted I wandered they have in store for him next What kind of plan he has for Lucifer
>>152328664Yeah it was sort of dumb Vox makes deals with ironic twists all the time all overlords do, basic bitch wordplay shouldn't have caught him by surprise.
>>152326402This, Al is the gayest character in the show, his mannerisms, limp wrist, the fact he mostly hangs around girls, the way he talks. He's just a psycho narcissist, he doesn't have empathy and can't feel affection towards others. That's not asexuality lmao. Great "representation".
>*makes fun of your circumcision on the tinder date*wat do?
>>152328890That reminds me, Alastor's deal with Charlie states>One favor, at a time of my choosing, where you harm no oneBut with ironic twist bullshit you can turn it into>One favor at a time, of my choosingSo I'm wondering if their deal is still active or if the writers didn't think about that.
>>152329751I dunno if the powers that be are gonna be nitpicky about commas.
>>152328505The first TV head character you ever see in your life is the coolest thing ever. It has diminishing returns the more TV heads you encounter.
>>152328664I forgot Rosie's role in this, now it's even worse>despite reminding Alastor that she owns his soul, literally singing "the moves you make are mine and mine alone", she does absolutely nothing until the very end (Vox advertised his "conquest" all over hell so there's no way she didn't know about the deal)>makes a surprised Pikachu face when Al outsmarts her
>>152326460>picThis is the second time pimp moth's guns don't do shit but 'dem hands (kicks, wings, etc.) did. I see how it is.
>>152328664I mean, if everyone around you is an idiot, and you plan for it, does that make you stupid or the only one who isn't?
>>152330781>Alastor wins by doing absolutely nothing
>>152327467She also recently had a baby so she's probably busy
>>152327756Only new card that matters
>>152330690>>152328664There's also the fact that wordplay matters when it comes to Vox and Alastor, but with the Rosie deal it apparently doesn't, since she never promised him lasting or perpetual power. She said she'd make him the strongest, she did, he should be stuck no matter if he failed to stay on top.
>>152331135Fuck, it really gets stupider the more you think about it. What pisses me off is that if the writers bothered to sit down and share notes, all of this could be easily fixable.
*serves soup gayly*
>>152332393one thing this show has going for it is visual gags
>>152330690My current (hopeful) theory is that Alastor is a pawn of some greater plot, and Rosie has been intentionally antagonizing him in effort to goad him into figuring a way out, either as a test or for some other, very specific reason.
>>152279849I just really want Lute to get an actual follow-up
>>152328664Only took him what? 90 years?
