Is it the greatest Comic Book show of all time? His deconstructions and insights of comics are unparalleled in the scene.
>>152313475No, it's like watching a kid show host also he pushes the April O'Neil was always black shit even though it's bull.
>>152313519>he pushes the April O'Neil was always black shitShe was
>>152313553No that's just an 80s hair perm.
ALL E-CELEBS AND THE CALVACADE OF CHUCKLEFUCKS WHO FOLLOW THEM SHOULD HAVE THEIR JAWS RIPPED OFF AND THEIR TONGUES PULLED OUT
>>152313553Retard.
>>152313475I've tried watching a few of his videos. He's shit.
>>152313666That's a later colorization to lineup with the cartoon
>>152313694Cope.
>>152313475He's good. Finding out he was an irl super hero was a trip. I really like Casually Comics.
>>152313553>>152313623>>152313666Go back to spit shining you pillbug dick Hack Nerd.
>>152313641You won't do shit you weak little faggot.
>>152313712>Finding out he was an irl super hero was a trip.What do you mean? He does one of those IRL larps where they wear a costume and volunteer at a homeless shelter and shit like that?
>>152313694Then why is she not colored like the cartoon?
>>152313694Yet they kept the bandanas redThe fact of the matter is, if Eastman wanted April to be black he would have spoken up then
>>152313776>>152313777She is clearly black in her first appearances, COPE CHUDS
>>152313796That's not what Eastman and Laird said
>>152313815Show the quote then
>>152313815Let it go anon. once these fags get in in their heads, no amount of evidence will every change their minds.
>>152313772Yeah. He went by Omega.
>>152313772Yeah Omega Man. He claims he actually physically fought criminals though
>>152313903>>152313906KEK hes fat
>>152313910Yeah he doesn't sound too proud of that era of his life. He made the video about it cause Phoenix Jones got arrested and didn't want to hide their connection.
>>152313903>>152313906People who do this are mentally ill and are bound to get shot if they persist.
>>152313969Good thing no one is doing it anymore.
>>152313475A speakers worth can be quickly defined by one question. Do you like Hank Pym?
>>152313475I like him a lot, I like that he covers manga and european comics as part of the medium and not seperate, and I love that he isn't only interested in capeshit like Linkara. He's also a good artist in his own right, so his opinions on the quality of art hold a lot of weight.>>152313712I really like Casually comics too, she has a good vibe, likes a lot of stuff I like.
>>152313475Does some of the best essay videos around and his news show is pretty comprehensive tooI wish he could quit his job and do it full time, but then again if he did he's probably have to compromise his opinions more like Sal from ComicPop
>>152313969Sounds like something a villain would say.
>>152314000He doesn't like Hank because he's a woman beater
>>152314090Then his opinion has no value.
>>152313712>>152314022I can't imagine getting lectured about comics by a woman.
>>152314549I think you need to touch grass anon.
>>152313553Nope, she was white. That black April shit was debunked a long time ago.https://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2018/02/was-april-oneil-originally-black-in.html
>>152313475I know the phrasing of the question is bait, but I like him. The problem is that his good stuff (like his video on Vince Colletta and Jack Kirby) is heavily outnumbered by shitty bloat where he just recounts shitty books (the cancer of comic coverage). I get that you've gotta pump out videos to feed yourself, but that doesn't stop those videos from being dogshit.If I had to pick a favourite comic YouTuber I'd say Strange Brain Parts. Recountings are limited to relevant portions of a book, and used to point out thematically and allegorically relevant portions. He doesn't do cape shit too much (particularly not Marvel/DC, but they appear rarely), and shows off a lot of different, interesting older material. You also still get some of the history stuff, like his breakdowns of Steve Ditko.
>>152313475Why isn't this thread deleted? Every other comic youtuber thread gets deleted on /co/.Also, Comic Tropes is a pedophile.
>>152313475He's a big Linkara dick rider so fuck him
>>152315122How dare he have a casual acquaintance with Linkara, he should be actively hostile to him because the internet bully comedians decided that he was cringe.
>>152314750>Comic Tropes is a pedophile.Why?
>>152315224He isn't anon is just a cunt.
>>152315215>Decided he was cringe>People found his stash of Green M&M and Dead Muppetbaby rape porn>He supported doxxing Brad Jones cause he was friends with Doug>Spent his entire career shitting on and wishing death to Comic artists and writers, only to turn around and piss his pants because people joke about his book Lightbringer>And moreHe's Chris Chan 2.0
>>152315215>"He's just a little cringe, he gets too much hate!"Nah, fuck that miserable pedo
>>152313475I like his show but I don't get how he wanted to do the show full time since he barely puts out content
>>152315269>pedoPuppets aren't living beings
>>152315279There are youtubers who do video essays of his quality that put out less and make the rent, it's not that crazy.
>>152315284What even is the muppet baby thing? I know he wrote self insert fics about him sucking dick, but that never bothered me and he admitted to it.
>>152315252Chris Chan had enough rizz to pull autistic finnish hoe half his ageLinkara got his crust bust by a trannyChris Chan is the protagonist of autismLinkara is a gay loser
>>152315299>Chris Chan had enough rizz to pull autistic finnish hoe half his ageIt's called Kavorka
>>152315295The gay stuff is the least of his worries - although "I like to be sucked or suck ^_^" and roleplaying as a black pimp who talks only in ebonics is still hilarious.Nah, its that the same account had a bunch of saved pictures of the Green M&M getting fucked and an infamous gore picture of someone fucking the dead bodies of the Muppet Babies.He admitted to the account and then immediately deleted the tweet (and account) and to this day pretends he never said that once he remembered those picDont forget his Angel Armour book, a series set in a world where all woman live as slaves on leashes and had multiple Rape sex scenes.He's so aggressive in burying this stuff cause the current fans he panders to will eat him alive for this stuff. >>152315299There's a lot more in his closet than boffing trannys
>>152315329Jesus I had no idea he was such a sex freak Not that he ever seemed normal but... Jesus. Amazing Atheist had his career forever ruined for getting frisky with a banana, Linkara is sitting on a nuke that could go off at any time. No wonder he's constantly angry.
>>152315329>I used to watch this nigga as a kid
>>152315329From what I'm hearing he had some shock humor images and wrote some rape fantasy stuff when he was a teenager. That's a complete nothingburger, if you're posting on this board right now you're at best actively ignoring at least 5 threads that are outright sexualizing cartoon children, what possible ground could you stand on against him? It's all internet E-drama garbage.
>>152315356>He was in his 20s> It wasnt humour, it was porn. On a porn site. You cant spin your way out of this Lewis
>>152315329FUCKING HELL HAHAHAHAH
>>152315329Is this why he couldnt work on History of Power Rangers?
>>152315391It'll be done when it's done, anon.
>>152315399i'll cum when i cum, kermit
>>152315329
Not so fast
>>152315445What's the deal with her hair? She wears wigs, but her actual hair is quite short, does she have alopecia? Was she doing chemo at some point?
>>152315329>/co/ pretends they don't jerk off to some fucky shit
>>152315445This is a trans person, right?
>>152315329I always had my suspicions about this dude
>>152315456No, she has bio kids and has quite a feminine voice, she is wearing a wig in that photo though.
>>152315453The hypocrisy is insane, I do not understand at all.
>>152315461>Is a biological woman>Looks like a trannyThat must be a nightmare on her self esteem
>>152315453>>152315468I have never jerked off to dead babies or roleplayed as a black pimp, no Besides the real problem isnt what we think, but what his ultra progressive fanbase would
>>152313903>>152313906ICE better thank their lucky stars these warriors aren’t on the streets anymore
He's good when he's light hearted but he occasionally slips weird shit into his videos like alluding to his stint as an actual costumed "vigilante" or suddenly getting emotional about certain topics. And that stuff unfortunately sticks with me more than his actual reviews and funny bits.
>>152313475I think the guy is knowledgeable and has itneresting shit to say, BUT HOLY SHIT is his mic soooo shit that I just can't do it.
>>152315329What always amazes me about Linkara is that you can tell he prioritizes the hate by like, the popularity of the joke rather than how damning it is.The bad web comic seems to piss him off way more than the futa shit
>>152315601He's like Grimbeard where the contents good but at least once a video his mask slips and you glimpse the insane beliefs they hold outside their Youtuber persona
>>152315601Oh come on, that first example was one of his best videos. Like, the man didn't just cosplay a hero he worked under Phoenix Jones. The more you know about the Phoenix Jones saga, the more you get an insight into what a deep lore this man tapped into by letting us know that
>>152315630This'll be why he claims the "Running to the screen" gif, something HE MADE, is hate speech
>>152315659My favourite Linkara lore is he did a silly walk in one of his videos to "replace" the running gif.He spammed it on Tumblr and then got pissed no one was using it
>>152315648>the man didn't just cosplay a hero he worked under Phoenix JonesThat's WORSE. If he was just cosplaying as his OC at cons or something like that I wouldn't bat an eye.
>>152315329I don't understand why people will be ready to crucify someone over retarded internet drama from ten years ago.
>>152313475>Is it the greatest Comic Book show of all time?No, that still is Cartoonist Kayfabe, Ed and Jim's deconstructions and insight were both more thoughtful and passionate than Chris, there breadth of interest in the medium was/is deeper, too. I wouldn't have learned about Kaze Shinobu if it wasn't for Ed. I like Chris, but he's kind of surface level in his understanding and appreciation of the medium. RIP Ed, you didn't deserve it.The only one recently I like even though their format needs work and their upload schedule is uneven is Lethal Comics. The format doesn't lend itself well to deep dives, but the passion and knowledge of the medium is there.https://youtube.com/@lethalcomics?si=ioC01LQF3VV7ve4d
I liked his old intro more. New one actually feels more dated, reminds me of the kind of intro an "unreasonably perturbed gamer" type would have.
>>152315761Yeah but that's the thing about the Phoenix Jones lore. Only like one or two of the guys took it super seriously on "being vigilantes".You can talk to a lot of the Seattle community who remember that group. A number of them, ComicTropes/Omega included, didn't really buy fully in to the whole "costumed vigilante" thing and instead basically became half-public servant/half neighborhood watch. Mostly doing charitable work bringing food and clothes to the homeless, cleaning up litter, helping give tourists and outsiders directions, and a number of other thingsOmega is, to my knowledge, one of the more fondly remembered ones. The comments section on that video is full of people remembering walking up to him, taking pictures, hanging out with him on his "patrols", and getting directions from him.Phoenix infamously chastised this particular group and called them the "sandwich-handers" but the general consensus was that they were doing much more good than he was and a few of them actually did get to spring into action against purse snatchers and shit while Jones had incident after incident of beating up innocents he "suspected" of something.That's why that video is so popular, a lot of people who remembered it were happy to finally hear the full story from the perspective of one of the "sandwich handers"
>>152316516Wait, did he get rid of the patridge intro??? or is there an even older one?
>>152316516>>152316613He's talking about the one before the Harry Partridge one:https://youtu.be/cP0eRr5BmL4?si=DgqWF55lPCHz0boW
>>152315909>Cartoonist KayfabeThis. The GOAT.
>>152313475Fuck no.
>>152315122>>152315215Both of you are moronsLinkara is a fucking idiot and causes a lot of his own problems but I could see why Comic Tropes gives him props since Linkara had been a comics youtube critic since the 00sComic Tropes is basically an "improved" version of Linkara so I could see why Chris would feel indebted to Lewis
Why would anyone watch this instead of just reading comics?
Lost Heroes of The Golden Age is great but it's a shame he uses ugly 3D models and AI now.
I like this guy.https://youtube.com/@raph-retro-comics
>>152320139Ok
Where do you rank her?
>>152314549>getting lecturedThat's what I like about her videos. She doesn't really push ideas on the viewer just talks about characters, stories, the behind the scenes stuff.
>>152321358I love her and want to marry her and have a bunch of babies but I'm already married so oh well.
>>152315456No she's Canadian
>>152313475I like that strange brain guy (???whatever his name is)He does a lot of indie comics form the 80s which is cool. Also he has to show up in his videos once in awhile or Youtube will demonitze him because they think he is Ai
>>152313712>I won't do comics that don't give me viewsNah fuck her.
>>152313475he's alright, I don't agree with everything, but I don't think he's objectionable
>>152313475I quite like his glasses
Cartoonist Kayfabe, nigga
>>152313475He's not the best comic book youtuber now but the scene was so dire a few years ago that he arguably actually was, just by virtue of making videos about more than "omg liefeld bad" or "here's a recap of current marvel event"
>>152313475"mattt - comic and manga history" is great, and he gets interviews with people, although he makes a lot of ads.
>>152320103You’d be surprised. I have a friend who’s been keeping up with Absolute Batman purely through YouTube recaps kek
>>152315329>>152315344I feel like people wouldn't really care about Linkara's degeneracy or perverted fetishes if he wasn't such an asshole and was the sort of guy to get hung up on it, nevermind that he's up there with Joss Whedon as a "proud feminist" to hide the fact that he's misogynistic.
>>152323372I always wonder why he barely if ever gets brought up.
>>152321967Holy Based! Fuck indyslop!
>>152313969>>152314083>>152313986Goode Woman and Jew-Man.
>>152313553>WE WUZ
>>152315763A lot of it comes down to "Linkara is an easy target to make fun of", but there's a bit more to it than that. Basic human behavior dictates that harassment/social shaming/bullying/abuse is permissable towards someone who does not fit in. Joining in this harassment helps others to bond (there are studies on this). Linkara is already a chubby ugly geek who proudly wears a fedora and obviously has undiagnosed autism, but Linkara makes things worse for himself because he's a loud selfish asshole with low self-esteem who can't fucking socialize for shit, and genuinely thinks of himself as far brighter than he actually is. On top of that, Linkara clearly WANTS to join the in-group and be accepted by others, but his social ineptitude, emotional immaturity, and issues towards women make things worse.It also doesn't help that Linkara responds publicly towards being made fun of. Social harassment (particularly online) only ends when the target does not engage or "feed the trolls" so to speak. The in-group moves on to find another target. If you don't want people to keep making fun of you or drag your skeletons out the closet, you have to be professional and not give a shit. Plenty of Youtubers or artists manage to survive their past cringiness because they grow up. They stop making an ass out of themselves and tune out whatever shit is being flung their way (or even embrace their new reputation).You can be a spergy perv like Linkara, but you have the choice to not be a smug insufferable asshole who always takes the bait/responds to people being asshats.
>>152315356I've been saying this for years, but no one would care about what personal stuff Linkara was doing if he was more professional as a Youtuber and was friendly to work with.>>152315666Reminds me of Vivziepop deciding to join in on the "if Vivziepop wrote X" trend but was clearly still upset about being made fun of. She and Lewis are two peas in a pod, they cannot handle anything short of ego-stroking.
>>152313553>>152313519>>152313623>>152313666>>152314595>That said Peter Laird (the other co-creator) addressing the same subject said “It depends on which co-creator of the TMNT you ask. If you ask me, I always saw April O’Neil as white. If you ask Kevin, I suspect he would say – as he has in a number of interviews – that she was of mixed race, much like his former girlfriend (then wife, then ex-wife) April.”Peter saw her as white; Kevin saw her as mixed race. And then new adaptations make her just black.
>>152324464I wouldn't have a problem with April being black if April was recognizably April. But "black April" always has to visually resemble Irma (nerdy), and character-wise April is now a teenager like the Turtles, so she's a far cry from the maternal role she traditionally plays.Race-swapping is one thing, but when you fundamentally alter the rest of the design AND the character, that's not a race-swap, that's a whole ass OC.
>>152324530>Race-swapping is one thing, but when you fundamentally alter the rest of the design AND the character, that's not a race-swap, that's a whole ass OC.I agree and this is something that bothers me in general about adaptations. The Sandman Netflix show casted a black actress as Death.>Death's appearance and aesthetic was based on a real life person who was known to the artist (pic realted, she passed away).>The aesthetic was ICONIC.>Neil Gaiman once talked about the importance of such matters (aesthetics/design etc) and how bad the arbitrary changes made by adaptations are.>They didn't even try and make the black actress look like the aesthetic.>Neil Gaiman then said everyone complaining was pretty much racist and went against his previous comments.I simply believe that design and aesthetics matter, even if it doesn't seem like they have purpose, they build up a character or thing into what it is. The infinite adaptation eventually does just change things until it is meaningless, continually trying to squeeze profit out a franchise. And I don't care whether it is the arbitrary whims of a producer, or political, it is just a decision based on denying that something may be important to fans and may be a small piece in why something became popular.
>>152324464The main problem with using that quote is that nobody can find the interviews where Kevin outright said it. In fact, Kevin's own official statements makes it pretty clear that April was only named after April Fisher in the beginning, which is not surprising considering Peter was the one responsible for her original jumpsuit design.
>>152324628This is part of the reason why I don't like Nolan Bane. You turned him from brown to another shade of brown but got a white guy to play him and made his character and design totally different! That's not Bane!I don't have a problem with a black/brown Comissioner Gordon in adaptations (Battinson and Lego Batman respectively). Gordon's of Scottish/Celtic descent, but his race has no real weight to the typical Batman narrative. His role is also pretty damn simple and hard to mess up, and it's difficult to completely change his outfit. So no one cares if he's brown or black in adaptations. Which is kinda fitting, considering that the noir/detective/mystery genre is known for being diverse in the first place and not tying occupations or roles to race.
>>152324692I think Peter is misremembering or just outright assuming that is what Kevin intended because of his ex being mixed. As you said all evidence we have is that she was in fact white.
>>152324692Heck, there's also April's first colored appearence in 86 where Kevin oversaw and approved of both the Richard Corben cover art and TMNT Book 1 by First Comics. Just making it even more obvious that April Fisher's influence on the the character was mostly limited to just her first name.
>>152324814There is exactly 1 version of April from the 80s as black and its one colorized version of an alternate reality story. A later recoloring of it has that version of April colored as white and the original black and white version has her has white as well.
>>152324692>>152324802>>152324814>The main problem with using that quoteThe quote I posted comes from Peter's blog:>"Sarah The Anime Librarian said... Looking through all this, I recalled I wanted to ask an interesting question I got at my TMNT panel at Connecticon, and didn't honestly know the answer to. I have a vague memory of reading about this somewhere, but not what the answer was. One of the young ladies at the panel asked if April O'Neil was intended to be either African American or Mixed Race in the original run of the comic. She pointed out some art in the first few issues that seemed to support the idea..but I honestly can't recall if I have ever heard that anywhere. Can you shed some light on that Peter? I'd like to add it into the presentation for next convention I do it at.">Sarah, it depends on which co-creator of the TMNT you ask. If you ask me, I always saw April O'Neil as white. If you ask Kevin, I suspect he would say -- as he has in a number of interviews -- that she was of mixed race, much like his former girlfriend (then wife, then ex-wife) April. To make it even more confusing:>"Originally created as an Asian character in Pete's notes, but named after an African American woman I once knew, the character of April O'Neil was introduced in issue #2, and would have a bunch of different 'looks' throughout the TMNT history."Pic related btw is April Fisher, Kevin's ex-wife, who is mixed race, but in this photo doesn't look it.(1/2)
>>152324831I think this blog does a good job of highlighting some of the confusion:https://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2018/02/was-april-oneil-originally-black-in.html?m=1You have multiple different designs, different colours used in colour comic and other issues. Is April black? No. Mixed race? I think her design was partly inspired by real life people so a bit. White? Sure. >that nobody can find the interviews where Kevin outright said it.I vaguely recall reading an interview where these things were mentioned, I can't remember for definite what Kevin said. I think the big problem is that we mostly have second hand remembering (such as myself) of stuff because defunct magazines or interviews from cons have not been consolidated by someone because it is more of a niche interest, leading to this kind of internet speculation that gets twisted into "cool quotes" for infographics rather than an actual attempt to cut through the mess and write a history of the development of the Turtles.Ultimately I don't think it really matters. I mostly agree with this anon here: >>152324530Fundamental change of the design is as big a problem as anything. I don't think the race of April matters that much in the grand scheme of things as to whether she is white or mixed race. But I do think just making her black and changing everything from her design is just weird, part of the ongoing politics of culture wars more than lending anything to the character or story.(2/2)
>>152324863Forgot pic.>In Kevin Eastman's 2002 retrospective book, TMNT: Artobiography, he spoke briefly about the origin of April as a character:
>>152324863There is that one clip from the Turtle Power Documentary where Kevin does touch upon it. He doesn't hide the fact that he did use April Fisher as an influence, but the interesting part is that even he points that she was just named after her, and wouldn't look exactly like her until a couple issues later.https://youtube.com/watch?v=ChAkxUJzSQE
>>152313553>once>always
>>152324949That blog partly touches on that issue of "just a name" point, mentioning the two main conceptual issues they had left was April's name and, funnily enough, Baxter's race (originally he may have been white and not black). Personally it wouldn't bother me if April was mixed race, but the debate online and what Comic Tropes touches on, is one of those:>COOL SECRET FACTS, DID YOU KNOW!?This to me is more about internet psychology and how we process/determine information; rather than trying to learn or understand a conception of the character with some light ambiguity, creator comments, changes and how some people in the audience saw it, we instead move to a definitive "IT WAS THIS!" type of idea because it sounds cool, "secret history of" fact, fits people's politics or narratives. And that to me is the big issue I have with social media and influencers overall, not just comic ones, that issue of marketing ideas rather than trying to understand them. Someone could write a book on the history of this comic and present some of that information and see what it means to fans and audiences and explore that. But instead we get "cool secret history of" fact that tumbles into "she was always black and they whitewashed her" narrative building into "every adaptation from here on out must look like x". It shows you how poorly thought out videos are when people put the least amount of effort into their comments.
>>152325170>originally he may have been white and not blackI think it was mostly the case of his race still being up in the air at the time. With April however, it does look like her being a white girl was mostly settled on, with only her name being undecided due to her being labeled as assistant.
>>152325314>I think it was mostly the case of his race still being up in the air at the timeThat is pretty much what I meant.>With April however, it does look like her being a white girl was mostly settled on, with only her name being undecided due to her being labeled as assistant.He has mentioned a few times the specific part of "using the name," and we can interpret that literally as "only the name was used," or we could go further and certainly say her look certainly did kinda look like his partner at the time in a few issues. Pretty much why I used light ambiguity because in general she does appear white but I think some of his views do lend towards him specifically viewing her being mixed, which some people also saw as per the comment on Peter's blog, but neither of those things are black or like the current ideas of what she should be. It is a mess, half remembered, being based on a perm and curly hair (which like that blog mentions can just be fashion of the time) amongst other comments and how some people saw it. And does it change the character that much? Not really, beyond model ideas and styling. I think just the people now are very desperate for it to be one way.
