Why is he so bad at writing endings, bros? He’s one of the few writers today you can argue is an auteur, but the majority of his projects feels like he gives up halfway through. This isn’t even a Marvel thing he did the same thing with Manhattan Projects after he realized it wasn’t getting picked up for a TV show
>>152318511>He’s one of the few writers today you can argue is an auteurLmaoRofl even
>>152318511Partly because he's one of those writers whose work is constantly teasing mysteries and secrets to be revealed later. Even if he gets to write the ending he wants, it's impossible to live up to audience expectations, because they spent years waiting for a payoff.Unfortunately he was ahead of his time and now most television/streaming shows are like this. They can never stick the landing because the make the ending too important. If you just tell some good individual stories then a bad ending doesn't really pose a problem because at least you were entertained along the way.
>>152318519The word is being used correctly. I say one of his major problems is that he's given too much leeway which is why most of his runs are massive retconfests with zero adherence to characterization. The fact that he's an "idea guy" who puts in half effort is the major problem because its what primes people to think that this time he won't quit the field in the third quarter.
>>152318639Wow what an auteur
>>152318625Mystery box storytelling was already a thing with shows like Lost, but yeah he’s definitely a good mystery box writer. What I find frustrating is that he writes good character dynamics like in Fantastic Four, so he doesn’t even need to use that crutch for his stories.
>>152318639I don't think you understand words.
>>152318511Jesus Christ I hate Secret warriors so much. >people are getting killed left and right,>keep mentioning how you have scarce resources>someone mentioned that Fury is sending people to certain death for his own benefit>”but he has a good track record!”Jesus fucking Christ.
>>152318511He's all around terrible.
>>152318639So an idea guy, not an auteur.
>>152318511His Fantastic Four ended well and then just kept going. That's the problem with comics, there is never a fixed beginning, middle and end planned out.
This nigga sucks ass
>>152318511his inability to write endings well is a natural consequence of his inability to write wellthat book he's holding? went to shit after Bendis stopped co-writing it with him, Brian Michael Bendis, the famous architect of Marvel, that Bendis, the writer who writes comic books>>152318639the word is being used absolutely incorrectlyan auteur is a film director who is so closely entwined with the films they create at every level of production that they are said to be the film's "author" (in french, from which the term originates, "auteur"), because film is, as you understand through not being a total retard, a collaborative medium in which the natural delegation of powers and division of labor produces outcomes which are usually beyond any one person's direct control, even the directorto call a guy who writes for a living an "auteur" is technically correct only in the sense that he is an "author", but to do so in english is to imply that he has some kind of magnificent control over the works of others, whereas with Hickman what you tend to see very quickly is people ignoring his books entirely for the flim-flam they are or simply rewriting his bad endings to fix them and make things at least readable againit's also true to say that an author who relies heavily on gimmicks like spreadsheet pages and flow charts instead of dialogue or action description and scene setting in his scripts is probably a useless asshole who couldn't boil and egg without getting an egg up his butt and crayons in his ears
>>152321304>gimmicks like spreadsheet pages and flow charts instead of dialogue or action description and scene setting in his scriptsAlan Moore did it for the Under the Hood sections of Watchmen it’s not something completely unheard of.
>>152321304So if someone does the script, pencils, inking, and lettering themselves they are an auteur?
>>152321304>that book he's holding? went to shit after Bendis stopped co-writing it with him, Brian Michael Bendis, the famous architect of Marvel, that Bendis, the writer who writes comic booksBendis?
>>152318511Who?
>>152321469Maybe the guy who wrote a comic about marrying dogs.
>>152321325Bruh are you comparing CHARTS LMAOto Under the Hood? You're forgetting that those sections are just prose with some images between. CHARTS is just the comic equivalent of audio logs in games. >"Oh check out this plant it can launch a projectile and smells kinda sweet when it does so. Hmm...jenkins don't wave your electro-torch near it or else it'll...focus J! AHHHHHHH!!!!!">*end transmission*And other shallow shit like that where Hickman just teases one thing and then cuts it off before any answers are given. Watchmen actually uses those segments to worldbuild using cultural artifacts/tokens/pieces/media and foreshadows parts of the plot or alludes to themes.Maybe Hickman does do that at points but it's never that consistent.
>>152321469Filename, bro.
Hickman doesn't plan his endings in advance, he just comes up with a premise and wings it from there. Though other comic pros have argued this is necessary when you're doing comics in a shared universe and have to work with/around other writers and the ever-changing whims of your editor (just look at his X-Men run and all the elements he had to drop like Franklin Richards, Storm's baby, and eventually the title itself because the other writers wanted to keep the status quo going longer and he no longer had any interest in writing it). Sometimes they're better at pulling it off. Ultimately it's not the best process for coming up with a satisfying ending.
>>152318511He's an awful writer in general. It mystifies me why people ride his nuts so much because every fucking one of his stories is the same.>there's a super smart guy who's also a condescending asshole but he's the protagonist>there's a super smart guy who's also a condescending asshole but he's the antagonist in conflict with the super smart condescending asshole protagonist>everyone else is unimportant because they're not super smart condescending assholes so Hickman can't jack off in front of the readers about how smart he thinks he is>the heroes are all morally gray pragmatists who basically engage in all kinds of ethically indefensible garbage, mass murder and other shit "for the greater good">that carries him for the first 3 or so issues, then it meanders along for dozens more with seemingly no point>somewherer in there is a group of OCs who are pseudo-villains but will end up forced onto the heroes' side; also they're condescending assholes and may or may not be super smart>previous characterization, continuity, etc. will be flagrantly ignored and desecrated>OH SHIT I HAVE TO WRITE AN ENDING>UH THE GOOD GUYS WON BECAUSE... THEY JUST DIDAnd cretins actually consider this pseud faggot the greatest writer of his generation lmao
>>152318511gimme the charts
>>152318651Mystery box writing is the creative equivalent of edging and seeing it means you're looking at a work created by hacks.
>>152318511I still think about wanting an ending for Black Monday Murders at least once a week
>>152321469jonathan hackman
