>Dive>"The fire of passion is not enough to sustain a man, no matter how strongly it burns. Fire's strength is illusory. Since it requires fuel, it may always be quenched - do not rely on it." - Au Vam
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Are we there yet
>>152320172Damn, Allison's about to get the 2-for-1 dead friend special
>>152320172nooooooo
>>152320168NOOOO NOT THE SHANIQUA! Zed sad enough!
>>152320172Oh no!, anyway.
>>152320168Awww yea->>152320172OH NO
I guess we're in the endgame and we need to cull some superfluous characters before the finale. First Zaid, looks like Nyave is next. Who else doesn't have an arc left to fulfill? Maya can't die until she faces Incubus at least, but that's coming up pretty soon too.
>>152320168>>152320172Well this woman was clearly unsuitable to run a large multiplanetary nation. I guess democracy really was worse than just letting Solomon run everything!
>>152320853Comparing this to the demiurge fight is such an insane drop in quality
>>152320168>>152320172>tfw Zaid dick gonelol look at how little that "Factotum follows the will of the people" matters here? Solomon David somewhere is smiling.
>>152320879>>152321541Yeah, that bothered me too. Being distraught over a loved one's loss, sure. Beating the shit out of someone and dragging them into a suicide pact isn't a sympathetic character action.
>>152320879>>152321541Didnt Solomon do a suicide run against an enemy demiurge as well
I'm not really feeling this ark so far. It being a giant war that won't solve the main problem feels a bit off, and the delays aren't quite keeping the pace going for me. Hope it sticks the landing, but even the threads don't seem very energetic.
>>1523217121) He lived, bitch2) He didn't drag anyone else into it
>>152321712In that situation Dave wasn't being a hypocrite. He was doing his job to stop Jag. Nyave however just went against the people and put them all in a suicide run.
>>152321718>Hope it sticks the landingThat ship certainly won't.
>>152320168Previous update edit.
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>>152321718>I'm not really feeling this ark so far.>this ark
>>152322183>the tiny bowBeautiful
>>152321712Solomon put himself between Jag and his people, his suicide attack was to end the fight quickly and avoid further loss of life. Thid is like that suicidal pilot who kill himself taking everyone in the plane with him.
>>152321796>>152321841>>152322793>setting where "fuck it, we ball" is a valid way to achieve godhood>getting upset when a character goes "fuck it, we ball"
>>152322917"Fuck it, we ball" implies that everyone in the party is in agreement.
>>152322917Incubus dying as a bowman to a random rageramming before Maya can reach him would be the most hilarious possible ending to both their arcs, but somehow I don't think she's about to invent the Maybe Navy.
>>152322917This move is more desperate than a "fuck it, we ball" situation.
>>152321841Democratic republics dont put military decisions in the middle of an armed conflict in the hands of civilians, anon, dont be obtuse. Nyave can and should pull rank over her subordinates.
>>152323465>Nyave can and should pull rank over her subordinates.Don't be obtuse yourself. Pulling rank means Nyave has to explain why otherwise she's going to be viewed as a tyrant. If anyone else saves them from Incubus after her sudden commandeering of the ship, her subordinates will not forget this moment. They will never trust her the same.
>>152322917>fuck we ballshe's literally killing herself in anger.
>>152322172Press F...
>>152322793>his suicide attack was to end the fight quickly and avoid further loss of life.Anon what do you think is the result if the suicide run on Incubus and the Sivran ship is succesful
>>152324093Problem is there's no shot that it will be. He can teleport, he can shoot them down, he can stand still with his sword out and do the anime bullet-cut thing but bigger, or he can literally facetank it. The absolute best case is that he distracts himself admiring the wreckage long enough for Maya to sneak up.
>>152320879Agreed she lost it way too fast
i think this moment would land better if i cared about zaid at all so i could relate to the characters but looking back on it he was honestly kind of lame. maybe its just because he got shot in the chest but riding around on a flying sword is pretty dumb when you think about it. incubus is much cooler. he has a bow. looking forward to him shooting more people with his bow.
>>152321609It's as they say: Power does not corrupt, it reveals. >>152322149>>152322162>>152322172>>152322183Love your work, editanon. Bless.
>>152325301Take a bath you stinky bitch
>>152325301>riding around on a flying sword is pretty dumb when you think about it.Xianxia writers would disagree with you.
>>152320172you didn't need to punch that guy
>>152322172>>152322183100/10 lmao
>>152320168>>152320172This is so retarded
>>152325301I agree zaid's death lacks impact but >a flying sword is pretty dumb when you think about itis an incredibly shit opinion
>>152320204Nyooo, kek imagine if Jagganoth doesn't even escape in this arc.At the rate Abby is going, he'll need a whole new book to deal with Metatron.
>>152322149>>152322162>>152322172>>152322183You're a champion
>>152322149>>152322162Why is Allison such a shit fighter
>>152322917The strangest part of the entire webcomic is that Incubus is like the second or third most "fuck it, we ball" character but has to be ideologically wrong about everything because the story needs him to be a bad guy, else Maya is just worthless as well as fat and old. So you end up with a guy who is a master of war, borderline disdainful of defeat or setbacks, downright generous to the very people he uses as pawns to advance his own screams, and is absolutely on fire with ambition and desire (a good thing, in the cosmology of KSBD) but...he's gross and he shanked Maya (bad! BAD nasty crimeboy!) so he gets lots of shittalking from characters but it's not clear how he's "wrong" other than failing an extremely poorly defined and subjective vibe check.I will be very surprised if it turns out Maya was actually wrong in her assumption of Meti setting him up as a bad example, because that's the level of writing we've been getting around the two of them after all of KSBD's attempts to subvert expectations.
>>152326031Once more, irony and Incubus coincide. Because Incubus basically is going through this whole story thinking like he's an average xianxia protagonist.
>>152327062*his own schemes, weird autocorrect moment
>>152327062Yisun is a liar after all
>>152327062He's wrong because despite dedicating himself to the sword he could top chop off the head of a cowering mother and copes about it to this very day, he does not "ball" he seethes
>>152320891I wouldn't call it a drop of quality, if something like this happened pre-demiurge battle I'd like it a lot. It's just kinda filler in the context of the story.
This comic is such dogshit.
>>152320891it's bizarre that the demiurge fight happened that early, it should've been the climax of the story, following into dealing with metatron or that demon guy.
>>152327080If he really seethed, wouldn't he have just fled to lap up scraps like he used to after Jagganoth was sealed? I mean think about it from his perspective. For all his wheeling, backhanding and proxy-using he still stepped up to fight Jagganoth 1v1 and was prepared to fight him AFTER he inhaled 2 whole keys' worth of power. You can say a lot of things about him but he's not a coward in the conventional sense, no matter what the bottom text says. He seethes and copes alright, but so do a lot of Royalty examples. Prim had turbo daddy issues. Kassardis raged at the Very Wise Frog. Aesma got infested by fleas and bitched out at them while challenging the Master of Ethics. Hansa's entire existence is seething at reality. Seething in and of itself, I would argue, a disqualification from Royalty. This is why I say the comic's argument about Incubus being a pathetic loser boils down to a vibe check. Yes, of course it's lame and gay he needed that many swings to kill a cowering mother. It's also baffling he does at all when by Abby's own admission he's like the 3rd strongest Demiurge in combat IIRC. I would actually prefer if the comic did more to justify Incubus being a "fail state aspirant" because all it really does is show him being shat on for things that happened offscreen but also consistently succeeding at his goals in the present OR refusing to give up even when setbacks like Allison not submitting to him completely or even cutting him in his dream state visitation thingy show up. Which sure, I suppose to most readers is fine because most readers are rooting for Allison, but to my mind comes across as a bit of double standards because Allison is the protagonist and Incubus isn't.I just think Incubus is a bit TOO successful for someone who is supposed to be consistently making the wrong decisions, is all.>>152327077I bet he isn't even really dead.
>>152327097I suspect whatever fight with Metatron is supposed to happen on a much higher level than the Demiurge brawl. There's probably a reason why Abby made a point of saying Himself is roughly equal with Metatron, and then had Allison make a pact with him to do the raid on Mammon's vault.
>>152327116*Seething in and of itself is not, fuck I'm tired rn
>>152327125yes of course, that's the only way to escalate the action. I fully expect some metaphysical fight or whatever. the problem is abby tried to slow the story down after the demiurge fight and could not stick the landing.
>>152327137Just realised I misread your post like an idiot, yeah completely agree. It's weird. Everything that happened after the Jag fight and before the current scene feels like something that should've happened before the Jag fight.
>>152327062I've always thought Incubus was closer to Royalty than a lot of characters even if he's stagnated by constantly seeking validation from others and lashing out when he doesn't get it. The lack of respect he gets from the other Demiurges was always them putting on airs: Jadis and Mottom slew vulnerable family members for their keys, Mammon bought his, Gog-Agog got hers through functionally a surprise attack when it was questionable if she was even sentient, and while Solomon David and Jagganoth won theirs in battle, Solomon massacred the monks who trained him out of spite and Jagg waited until his opponent was old and weak.I too will be sorely disappointed if Abbadon plays Maya and Incubus straight because not only has he given them parallels to Yis and Un, he's also stated that Meti's beliefs are simply her opinion on Royalty.
>>152327062you will be disappointed then.
>>152327080could not*
>>152327210Not disappointed, just unsurprised. I remember that scene. I will also say that the power of friendship as a core component of Royalty is fucking bullshit, Aesma sure as fuck has and wants no friends after the Red-Eyed King because Abby never wrote that story about her getting a dog; even Ogam seems more like an incidental acquaintance than anything.>>152327172>if he's stagnated by constantly seking validation from others and lashing out when he doesn't get itExactly. If he gave up like Father in KND more or if HE was the one to have an acknowledgement-based melty and not Gog (or at least, not JUST Gog) during the clash with Jag, it would be more acceptable to me. But I think Abby kind of unintentionally wrote Incubus to be more hardcore than he's supposed to be, even if you're clearly supposed to read many of his actions as simply having a REALLY good poker face.
>>152327210>AesmaActually why am I going on about Aesma, HANSA who is even worse than her achieved Royalty effortlessly and that miserable fuck gives no shits about anyone or anything.
>>152327242The writer is not good at consistancy or keeping to themes.
>>152327062It's because he's a punk ass bitch that simple he lacks the rizz, I don't get why you're self inserting as stinky boy but it's plain as day why he aint royal
>>152327236alright you convinced me, abbadon is a hack.
>>152327051Because she is the "Idiot's Blow". Even Gog was shocked at how badly her constant flailing has btfo everyone. Metatron himself watching all of this is no doubt confused at why everything has gone off script.
>>152327290I ain't. I'm not one of Incubus' glazers, if anything I'm just deeply confused he's so much more composed and successful than the Starscream-like character he's supposed to be in the story. And I'm complaining Abby doesn't do enough to upsell the people who are supposed to be his antithesis.You can't sit here and tell me Maya has any rizz after she spent a whole year taking it up the ass for a sword.
>>152327341>Metatron>watching all of this>Implying Metatron isn't too stagnant to do anything except touch himself while thinking about the empty city of long dead gods were angels sit still, do nothing, gather dust, and everything is thus "perfect"
>>152327062Incubus clings too much to victory, he's meant to come off as cool and closer to royalty than the others until the meeting with Zoss in book 4 when you realize he's full of shit. His entire life is being a "fuck da rules" edgelord when in reality he's deeply concerned with what others think of him and at the same time he's in perpetual survival sewer rat mode. Two characteristics incompatible with Royalty. >>152324545It's the most a mortal fighter can do against a demiurge.
>>152327363>You can't sit here and tell me Maya has any rizz after she spent a whole year taking it up the ass for a sword.once more clinging to the past and thinking it informs current royalty, ngmi
>>152327051She isn't. 00001 was fighting Mottom to a standstill. Allison had like 3 months of training after waking from a coma to reach her current level. All things considered she's doing pretty good, consider that the demiurges have had millenia to hone their power by comparison.
>>152327391Personally I think his reaction to Allison cutting him during their dream duel was the real "he's full of shit" moment. There were moments of insecurity before that, but this was a situation where he was nominally in control and still got slashed.As much as I've shat on Abby for how he's handled the character, Allison, and a lot of other things in the story, I actually liked that moment. That part where Inc is looking sadly at his cut seems kinda introspective. I just wish, again like with a lot of the problems in KSBD, it was built on and focused on more instead of shit like Cio's lesbian drama.>>152327405>When Incubus wants to fight Jagganoth after seeing him huff 2 keys, it's cringe and he's clinging to victory and we need to keep making fun of his past mistakes>When Maya keeps trying to chase down and kill a man she's failed to for years now, it's based and she's Royalty and we shouldn't dwell on her own Demiurge power trip or the time she got HAMMERED which is objectively more humiliating than Inc failing to chop off one (1) neck after presumably killing a lot of other people during his career as a sellswordDouble standards.
>>152327043Pretty insane that he expected all of book 5 and 6 to be a single book
>>152327407>00001 was fighting Mottom to a standstill.I wouldn't go that far, pretty sure Mottom was winning after a few panels. Though it was impressive she was able to slow her down.
>>152327417>we shouldn't dwell on her own Demiurge power trip or the time she got HAMMERED which is objectively more humiliating than Inc failing to chop off one (1) neck after presumably killing a lot of other people during his career as a sellswordcorrect the former does not inform Maya's later existence while the latter does inform Incubus's later existence
>>152327368All he can do is watch before Allison pisses him off so much it breaks him out of stagnation sadly.
>>152327442>correct the former does not inform Maya's later existence>"oh woe is me, I want to cook and eat noodles but I must seek REVENGE FOR MY MASTER!"Doesn't it?
>>152327481He's going to be a fabulous fucking phoenix when Himself punches him out of that crusty shell, that's for sure. Probably going to get so mad he starts inventing new Krayu Mat moves on the spot just to beat ass harder, then get mad at himself for doing the ultimate sin: Innovating.
>>152327499Yall insel crackuh lil bro.
>>152327499Not in the way Incubus is constantly coping and clinging to the sword, you're a bit weird bruh calling the sex she had "objectively more humiliating" like have sex bro
Samefagging going on.
>>152327407Mottom fucking washed 00001 anon.
>anons still on Maya vs IncubusThe most important thing will be what the survivor does after one of them is killed.
>>152327592>used as a cocksleeve by a OBUF on the vague promise of a sword for six years>not humiliating
>Allison keeps jobbingliteral peasant
>>152327675Umm being weak means that ur stronk.
>>152327672it's not about it being more or less humiliating broski it's about how she grew from there and it doesn't hold her back, you've got something strange about sex my guy like your word choice is just weird
>>152322149>>152322162>>152322172>>152322183Royal
>>152327747Grew like got fat AHAAAHAH LOL.
>>152327062Incubus is a lil bitch simping for Jag the Hog. When he's told to kill he does it, no question asks, but when he can't have his way he pisses himself and submits. He's a bottom who takes it up the ass and cries in a corner whenever he's not dominating the situation. This is by no means royalty. He is a parasite who enters people mind to puppet them just like he himself is a puppet. He brings war and destruction, but he is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. A demiurge, but also an underling. Maya became a master and teached Alison, Incubus could only suggest brute force to solve her problems. He's never been more than a stinky boy no matter how he presents himself to the world.
>>152327062Incubus is the end of the line. He's gone as far as someone with a fundamental misunderstanding of royalty can go, but then he hit a wall and he can't even comprehend why anyone would try to get past that wall because where others see a hurdle, he sees a finish line.
>>152327062If anything, Incubus is living proof that disregard for the rules, having a winning mentality and nigh delusional self confidence isn't enough to be Royalty. For years a lot of people were under that impression because of the Aesma fables. >>152327417Maya isn't Royalty. She's a self admitted peasant and is content with it. Man, will the captchas ever get back to normal?
>>152320891>>152327097This whole section of the war feels very filler-ish. The real fun will begin when Jagganoth escapes from his orb.
>>152328428Incubus is also very clearly shackled by both his inferiority complex and his history with Maya, which is why he's not Royalty. It's kind of the point of the Demiurges, all of them are/were on the path but none of them made it.>>152327236I think you're misinterpreting that scene. It's not "the power of friendship," it's that some things even Royalty cannot control or do alone. The statement is directly referring to Salami Dave even though it indirectly can be applied as a lesson to Incubus too.
>>152328428The truth is that while called Royalty within their personal myths, in the overall kind of Big Myth regarding the universe and Yisun NO ONE has ever achieved Royalty. Zoss came the closest so far.The people that have been called "Royalty" in their myths are actually just that, Royalty in their myth because their myth is about them, it's their story. The story of the real universe within the comic is still Yisun's story therefore Yisun is the only Royalty there has ever been.
>>152328592Plus Royalty is not an endgoal to be reached, it's a constant state to be maintained. A " continuous cutting motion". There's no ending to the pursuit of Royalty.
>>152327675She's going to get a rage boost and one shot 00001
>>152329033That's lame and cliche as fuck, and further contributes to this whole war segment feeling like phoned-in filler.
>>152328710Precisely. Even if those figures were Royalty for their stories, they let their stories end. The universe still turns.
>>152329284The rage boost is a cliche that always works, specially since she couldn't get one when Cio died cause she wasn't at the required level yet. She's in full heir mindset now, her wrath should be a terrible thing
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>>152330288It should already be a terrible thing, she should be shoulder deep and in that army's ass by now but she's still warming up.
>>152330362Not even warming up she's getting fucking tired.
>>152330432Like imaging if Goku was gassed after Recoome
>>152327062to me, he has always been portrayed as cool as fuck. Even in the last update, he had a badass one-liner (killing Zoss without even knowing who he was), that's cool. In KSBD, being cool is the best possible thing. That's about as favorable treatment as you can get from the author. So as long as he is cool, I think the author is treating him as fair as possible.
>>152325301>T. IncubuscelZaid was the true heir of creation and his death is a real tragedy
>>152327062>The strangest part of the entire webcomic is that Incubus is like the second or third most "fuck it, we ball" character but has to be ideologically wrong about everything because the story needs him to be a bad guy, else Maya is just worthless as well as fat and old. So you end up with a guy who is a master of war, borderline disdainful of defeat or setbacks, downright generous to the very people he uses as pawns to advance his own screams, and is absolutely on fire with ambition and desire (a good thing, in the cosmology of KSBD) but...he's gross and he shanked Maya (bad! BAD nasty crimeboy!) so he gets lots of shittalking from characters but it's not clear how he's "wrong" other than failing an extremely poorly defined and subjective vibe check.how do we know incubus isn't close to royalty?
>>152332248>how do we know incubus isn't close to royalty?Royalty isn't wanting it. Royalty is being it.Incubus is too attached to the want to actually be.
>>152327062First of all, Royalty isn't just about avoiding stagnation. It also encompasses self actualization and a lack of worldly desires. Hansa was Royal specifically because he didn't want it. YISUN, the most Royal of Royalty, believed that it was dumb and only an idiot would actually want it. Incubus being full of ambition and desire is actively working against him.Secondly, as seen with Aesma, the idiot's understanding is required. If the other demiurges follow the rules, and Incubus breaks the rules, a true Royal wouldn't even be aware of any rules to start with.
>>152332132>Zaid was the true heir of creation>Allison, his always ex, is the wheel smashing lord
>>152332132>>152333095... wait what is zaid is just an alternate versions of zoss
>>152327062>The strangest part of the entire webcomic is that Incubus is like the second or third most "fuck it, we ball" characternigga he spent his entire lore, characterization and on-panel presence SEETHING at random shit and moping over should-bes
>>152328428>For years a lot of people were under that impression because of the Aesma fables.The same fables that ended with aesma being literally too retarded to grasp YISUN's teachings to the point she had a fit and outright demanded he let her see royalty and got burned to a crisp for it?YISUN loved aesma for being the closest to royalty of all his students, but she didn't attain royalty. She couldn't as an archetype of someone consumed by mindless want.
>>152328592This.This guy understands.And the storylets are lowkey the absolute best part of KSBD.
>>152329033You mean she's actually using the hax item she got shoved in her head in chapter one?
>>152333861WoG hasn't confirmed, but their resemblance notwithstanding between Gog saying that the tragic love interest role must always be performed and Zoss calling Allison Alice I believe he is an alternate Zoss. And Allison was Alice in a previous cycle.
Hol' up, shouldn't 2 Michael and the angels make their move now since they won't be able to make Zaid the heir? The pure infertile circle just got broke. They're gonna be pissed.
>>152327675Yeah, I'm tired of it. We reached the stage where I would've been happy if Allison was dunking on all these mooks and jobbers without breaking a sweat, but for some reason she needs to trip on these losers because... uh... stakes I guess?
>>152334273Insane that Michael and Metatron haven't appeared outside of flashbacks since book 2, like 10 years ago. Really curious about how they'll look in Abby's refined artstyle. >>152327137Im trusting Abbadon to make full use of the webcomic medium. Something like that page in the Jadis arc in which Allison sees the full shape of the wheel. White Chain mentioned that Metatron's voice obliterates thought. Abby mentioned on his tumblr that he's operating on a scale incomprehensible to the other characters. It has to look trippy.
>>152334559Haven't even seen Juggs since the tournament arc. Shits kinda wild.
is zoss or metatron the one turning back time?Is zoss or jagganoth the one who is metatrons pawn?
>>152327097Going from a massive, high power action climax to a year's worth of updates dedicated to wallowing in Jadis' Bass Pro Shop Pyramid was like a deliberate attempt to obliterate the story's flow and sense of structure. Then we had a mediocre training arc that didn't really deliver much meaningful character development and now we're in a fight that's frankly not terribly high stakes despite the large scale. It's just hard to take any of this low level bullshit seriously when we've already seen Chakravartin Jaggahog.
It's amazing how Allison has done nothing but lose aura (as the kids would say it) since she peaked at the end of the Jadis arc.
>going full Worf and deciding to ram the ship out of angerlmao
>>152334559the reason I keep reading this comic is because I know it can do shit like >>152334729 so I still have faith it can stick the landing at least.
>>152329711would royalty be a Never Ending Story(tm)?
>>152334889Probably not since everyone who has achieved Royalty eventually decides to die (and then come back at will).
>>152327097Crazy that the demiurge fight was originally supposed to be all part of book 4 and then book 5 would be the Jadis arc and everything until the end. Abby is really bad at making these estimations. >>152334729Jadis' arc was tedious as hell but necesary for Allison's growth. Same as the current war arc, not a lot of interesting stuff was going on before Zaid died.
>>152334559I hope we see Punished picrel soon
>>152334729Man all the way through the tournament up to the end of the Jagganoth fight, the hype was palpable. Those were the days. Hasn't been the same since but I'm still really hyped for what is to come with Zoss, Juggs, Jagganoth and Metatron.
>>152327097>>152334729>main moral of the story is that being really good at violence is inherently a flawed thing that can only result in stagnation/destruction>hammer this point home by making the big bad guy be the best at violence and 100% invincible so you can't out-violence him>"wth why isn't the big flashy violent DBZ battle the final culmination of the entire story?"
>>152335063Didn't Abby do a drawing where her and White Chain were human?
>>152334729>Jadis' Bass Pro Shop PyramidOh god, I didn't realize the resemblance. Was that on purpose???
>>152335229>>hammer this point home by making the big bad guy be the best at violence and 100% invincible so you can't out-violence himI suspect the maybe blade won't work on jagg and they'll have to find another way to deal with him.Unless they want to do a retcon (or bait & switch, or whatever you call it) with his invulnerability.
>>152335213those days were very, very fun.
>>152327062It weird because by all account he's a stinky boy who will never be true royalty but he's always be working upward in is own way, a continual motion upward in the ranks. Seeing where he started to where he is I cant say he's a failure, as he is a master bastard in a world full of bastards. I guess the most damnable thing is that he seems to of settled for never being THE guy with is Unroyal as it gets. But even if we sliced is head off next panel I wouldn't call him a true loser. He's not really starscream because starscream wants to BE THE GUY. In fact most people in fiction he's most like want to be THE GUY. But he just sits back being a scum lord and reaping benefits. Basically I don't think they'll be a "Now YOU DIE because YOU are BAD AND WRONG and we a Good and the GOOD GUYS". It'll be a brutal "your a slimy faggot and you die now". I don't know if he's going to LOL LMAO or white like a bitch or both. Probably both.
DBZ of webcomics and no that's not a compliment. Incoherent cycle of>you are weak>train>i am strong now>punch bad man in face>new bad man arrives>you are weak
>>152335403he's not invulnerable, he's immortal.
>>152335442>>new bad man arrives>its the same bad man that we've had since book 13/10 apply yourself
>>152335443Jagganoth is absolutely invulnerable. Ontologically fixed by God, can't be harmed, uber invincible.
>>152335443hes both.
>>152334889Possibly, depend if Yisun ends and what comes after.>>152334970None of that is true, no one has achieved Royalty, Zoss is the only one who has come back and he explicitly failed.
>>152336801Royalty is a continuous cutting motion, not getting the upper hand at every win-lose, pass-fail event. Canonically everyone who has achieved royalty has died (the gods, Zoss, maybe Intra) yet Zoss has come back and the liturgy confirms that gods can answer prayers.
Is this /co/'s MegaTen?
>>152320879Alison got explained that if you are strong and you don't want the world to be shit, you need to mind the little people and treat them well. What was the very first thing we saw her do after that? She trampled a bunch of guards who had the audacity to do their jobs and ask for papers before letting her meet the head of the multi dimensional democracy.This comic is pretty pictures. If you deleted all speech bubbles you'd improve it.
>>152322183That tiny bow got me. Good job.
>>152338325>Alison got explained that if you are strong and you don't want the world to be shit, you need to mind the little people and treat them wellNo tf, who said that. Zoss delivered very few lessons and none of them were about actual governance.
PEASANT EASANT
>>152332248Because he hasn't cut away the part lf him that's holding him back.
>>152320168My name is Rex and I am... a Dog Nigga. I am the result of a drunk man raping a female dog. That bitch died having me. I have only known loneliness and exile. Because of that, I am going to rape my father.
>>152338325>Alison got explained that if you are strong and you don't want the world to be shit, you need to mind the little people and treat them well.no? Zoss' one lesson is that even if ou are royalty, even if you are the actual most powerful kung-fu inmortality cultivated being on the entirety of throne, you are still king fuck of shit island and you can't actually change the world to your favourite take on "should be".you either make your peace with this and achieve royalty, or go nuts.That's Zoss one and only lesson. He's basically deconstructing the setting and saying "being goku is bullshit"
>>152338874>My name is Rex and I am... a Dog Nigga. I am the result of a drunk man raping a female dog. That bitch died having me. I have only known loneliness and exile. Because of that, I am going to rape my father.wrong comic. lol
>>152322149>>152322162>>152322172>>152322183incredible
>>152334768She's a garbage MC and her attempts at looking 'badass' just ring hollow.
>>152321541Salami Dave did nothing wrong
>>152322172kek
>>152327172>>152327391>>152328066These anons have the right of it.I think it's pretty clear that Incubus *IS* close to royalty. Really fucking close. He did have an awesome teacher after all, even if he was a shit student.But because he's fundamentally compromised - he still is too afraid of losing, envious of others, concerned with appearances - and worse is just wrong about what true royalty is (to the point he wants it at all) he's hit an impasse.In order to progress any further he'd have to have a really significant change in perspective and understanding. A total metanoia.But he's already convinced he's the only person who gets it and that everyone else is retarded, so the odds of him having that realization are low.It's tragic, really. Incubus is absolutely one of the better characters for all this.
>>152339814>Incubus *IS* close to royalty.are you retardedbuddy needs a sword to cut
Incubus is trapped because he can't self-actualize, his victories are tearing others down and building his power atop them but he'll never look up and create something on his own.He'll be shanking, betraying and murdering people until the end because that's all he can comprehend.
inki bussy is just a shit eater to the end
>>152340093He's not wrong.
>>152340039Hence why he's close to royalty, not royalty.
>>152335229>make setting build on wicked sick action>fill the story with wicked sick action>have the most wicked sick action climax>follow it up with a bunch of lame character arc retreading before resuming wicked sick action>"erm, actually, the point is that wicked sick action is actually supposed to be lame and wrong, okay? Work on your media literacy, maybe?"Reminds me of Abbadon getting all pissy on twitter because people weren't taking Jadis' high school nihilism spiel seriously.
>>152340288Not really. He's not, has never and will never be close to it.
>>152340338He's close to royalty like my dick is to your lips, come on give it a kiss
>>152340338Agree to disagree.Fittingly, the actual functional difference between our opinions is nil, since my point is that he's gotten as far as he can go without a radical change (which we can assume isn't coming).Whether he's five inches or five hundred feet away it doesn't matter if he can't get any closer.
>>152340362Nice to see you posting, Incubus
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>>152340328If he wanted it to be taken seriously, maybe he should've written a more nuanced nihilist than fucking Owlman.
you people forget that meti figured it out already, being a normal dude like a farmer or a baker is infinitely better >but muh royalty bitch I said swerve
>>152340647>dies when Jagganoth turns the wheel
>>152340647Yet they all suffer and suck just the same
>>152340647Yeah in the sense that its better to not read the Necronomicon than it is to read the Necronomicon.But what if I really want to learn about weird astral goats? I'm GOING to read the Necronomicon. You cannot stop me. You're not strong enough.
>>152340809so does anyone
>>152340884Just halt the wheel. If you were a truly royal farmer, your tomatoes would seal Jagganoth forever in a prison of flavor after a single bite.
>>152340937but the farmer does not yearn to be royal.You're applying your standard to someone who simply knows better.
This whole 'royalty' concept is gay, you can't even say its being subverted when the fanboys of the series take it so seriously.
>>152340986But anon *you're* gay.Coincidence?
>>152334729I’m gonna be honest bros, the Chakravartin fight was fucking assThe fight with Jagganoth prior was really fucking cool when the Demiurges were coordinating and he was firing arrow volleys and Solomon was parrying Jagg’s sword swingsThe Chakravartin fight was just a bunch of laser spam and shit
>>152341057that's just how dragonball stuff goes it all returns to beam spam
>>152322172Noooooooo!
>>152340957The royal farmer does not yearn to be royal. He simply is. His tomatoes stop the wheel not because he made them to do so, but because he made them.
>>152341443anon you're sounding more like the guys that post on abby's site
>>152327062Maya has always gave me "main character syndrome and unreliable narrator vibes"
>>152341443You are trying really hard and it's really brave
>>152334729He screwed himself up by introducing the super god who is stronger that the rest of the characters combined and then go to a bunch of scrubs fighting over nothing.
>>152341643As cool as the big demiurge fight was we never should have seen it, just the after effects.
>>152341699Like if it just started, they went up into the sky, and then the next page was Allison falling?
>>152341789Something like that. Give us a taste of David in the arena, WC bloodying him is good enough for the last fight of the chapter. When it's time for David and Jagg we have to focus purely on Allison doing something else, I forget exactly what was going on at the time. Maybe something a little more drawn out and personal with Incubus to make killing Cio sting a little more. But we only kind of glimpse the big fight by the background or feel it faintly, then the big attack nuke goes off and things play out like they did. This way we're still left wanting to see Jagg go all out instead of just wondering how Allison is going to side step it.
>>152341443>>152341626unironically I thought something similar was going to be the case. back when meti was telling her life story and we didn't know exactly who she was, I thought the lines about being a bad student and that she'd rather be a noodle seller was foreshadowing her or meti's true insight into royalty, that it could and should take other forms rather than violence (also that violence doesn't necessarily mean harming others e.g. prince kassardis) and that would basically be an excuse for abbadon to make more persuer characters that "fight" with food, clothes, etc like in wuxia; and also set up the way Allison was going to win over jagganoth, making him understand that insight and realize he was looking at the world from a very narrow point of view. or maybe let him destroy the wheel but keep creating more worlds, forming a pure, fertile cycle.
ROYALTYOYALTY
>YISUN takes a shit>In those days, Aesma would crash into the 14th spire of the Star Palace of the Third Court in a foolish attempt to vex and annoy YISUN and his guests who dined there.>Once, she rode a bull through the great crystal window that was 80 cubits tall and wide and took ten times ten-thousand years to build in 5 seconds.>As the idiot god impacted the table in front of YISUN, YISUN smiled in the 4th way and asked if Aesma brought the bull to add to the feast.>Aesma, being a fool, answered YISUN slowly in a sudden fashion, "You're a piece of shit YISUN!">Pondering this, YISUN asked, "Am I?" And stood. YISUN walked to the center of the chamber, where he then squatted.>Quickly and without motion YISUN strained with such force that the entire spire shook, and a third of half the guests ran for their lives.>Beads of sweat emerged from YISUN's brow, which remained motionless, and became waterfalls that are now all that remain of the 3rd Star Court's 14th Spire. >A mighty obsidian defecation that was the 12th color of midnight emerged from YISUN's anus and when it fell free from him and collided with the floor, the earth became as a bowl beneath its weight. >As the turmoil ceased, Aesma stared quite stupidly and exclaimed, "Holy shit.">YISUN turned to Aesma and smiled in the 2nd way and said gesturing to the crater of his efforts, "Quite so. Come and behold the YISUN you sought">Aesma being an idiot and lacking sense, approached and beheld. And lo, it was YISUN in the crater, who smiled at her in the 7th fashion, and laughed in a manner reminiscent of Moh't Ha'am (which is to say quietly in the loudest way possible). >Thus did YISUN teach Aesma her 92nd lesson which she forgot instantly.>-92nd Scroll of YISUN.
>>152340202His approach is wrong though. Incubus needs a (You) to always leech from to actualize his (I).
>PEASANTRY and ROYALTYpostingWe are so back
>>152340877>You're not strong enoughBig words, little man
>>152343741Aesma you FUCKKidding aside that pun was very high effort. I might even say this is the finest shitpost I've ever seen regarding KSBD.
>>152327210today i learned that Zoss was just a head on a wooden body on this page
>>152344671I rather like the idea that he's just fucking about across the timeline playing cheap pranks like that.True royalty.
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>>152344671>today i learned that Zoss was just a head on a wooden body on this pagereally?
>>152344671Head of Zoss > Head of John
>>152344525The smartest corpse in those piles is the one who, upon realizing they would not be able to kill Jagganoth, aimed his arrows at Jagganoth's canteen to spite him
>>152345252yep that was my idea. in fact you can see me there at background pile #3.
>>152344525>Big words
>>152335063WHERE IS MY WIFE. WHERE IS SHE, ABBADON?
>>152345186It just struck me, how does Zoss not have a style dedicated to him?
>ask for good webcomics>people suggest this and pedo garbagethis medium as a whole needs to die, holy shit. this comic is actually embarrassing.
>>152343741god i love this comic
>>152347316you missed the last webcomic thread ya dummyi'll keep recommending this until i get one (you) saying "yeah i read it"and who the fuck recommends lolishit webcomics outside the lolishit threads
>>152347346I bet you tell people to have fun and read stuff like Absolute Batman or Dr Mcninja you fucking fuck fuck you.
>>152344671was this confirmed anywhere? or is it just your theory?
>>152347316>>people suggest this and pedo garbageWhat's wrong with this comic? Did you read all of it just to complain or did you enter here without catching up?What's the pedo garbage you are being recomended?
