Why can't society replicate golden age animation today?
>>152324704Incompetent animators. They couldn't learn shit, so they started pretending that the old animators retired without passing their skills down out of spite.
>>152324704Drawing back in the days required a different skillset and was mainly using 2d methods. While drawing nowadays is mostly digital, which means a lot of shortcuts and different material. But mostly for the fact that being an animator during the 1940s to 2000s were cutthroat as hell. A lot of people had to deliever the best product.Nowadays besides big projects most people cant match that energy while also dealing with out of touch execs.
>>152324704>>152324712>>152324742TLDR; THEY CAN'T DRAW!
>>152324704All the animators work for hollywood instead
>>152324704Dude, they couldn't replicate the golden age 20 years after it. The 60s and 70s were awful for warner and MGM.
>>152324833I get that the original issue was TV syndication paying basically nothing compared to theaters, but cable revenue in the 90s and beyond more than closed that gap
>>152324704Too much work and too much cost, you got more bang for your buck back in the day
The only recent one I've seen that's stylized differently but about as fluid as the classics is the Singapore series
>>152325341Spy vs Spy kind of feel
>>152324704They could do it if they felt like spending the money. None of the processes or materials involved are unknown. The issue is a combination of lack of desire, and the time and money involved. Best you're going to get are weird art animators searching for purity in an age of digital slop or Korean slave labor animation.
>>152324704for me it's 1963-1967
>>152324704I remember Jerry having a red bowtie in the 1975 era i guess my mind was playing games on me
EVERYONE, READ THISOP wrote "why can't society replicate..." Ask yourself, what human writes like that.
>>152326074Me
>>152324704I remember reading an article by one of the old Termite Terrace gang of animators for Warner Brothers. He talked about visiting an animation class in the early 2000's. He gave a lecture on animation basics using terminology that had become standard across the various studios in the 1940s and 1950s. The students didn't know what he was talking about. So he ended up demonstrating some basic techniques that. That prompted a barrage of questions, not just from the students, but from the professor. He realized whole methods of animation were effectively lost.
>>152326118I read the Animators survival kit. 75% of the book is about walk cycles.
>>152324704Lack of boredom in formative years. People waste time on sites and apps instead of immersing themselves in mastering a craft and I think this is one of the reasons everything has gone to shit across the board.
>>152324704It's because Koreans ruined animation.
>>152326118My father-in-law is an animator. It is difficult to get his attention in the theatre because he is lost in wonder. We were in a screening of Bambi together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to make it today. I will never forget his answer… 'We can’t, we don’t know how to do it.'"
>>152326118link?
>>152325341Tom and Jerry Singapore should've been given a WAY bigger platform, loved that shit. Anyone know what happened to that one preschool cartoon they were developing a few years back?
>>152328004Cancelled. I think WB uploaded the four completed episodes on YouTube.
>>152324704>comparing movie shorts to television animationGood animation requires, budget and time, and of course talentIf you don’t have all 3 you won’t get itPeople already assume by default we don’t have the talent, but we don’t have the first 2 either
>>152328080>Good animation requires, budget and timeJapan doesn't have that problem
>>152324704Jerry thicc
>>152328389Japan has a high suicide rate and low birth rates, exacerbated by the fact their animation houses have low budgets and low timeframes to get things done.They may not have that problem, but I'd consider a high mortality rate a more severe one.
>>152328080Cable animation
>>152328474>if I actually worked hard on animation I’d KILL myselfThe most obnoxiously childish take from American artists People aren’t here for them to treat it as a fantasy job and social club. There are artists who put in the hard work without pay and always have been.
>>152328869> There are artists who put in the hard work without payThese artists don't live in America/Europe.
>2014Something I've noticed recently is that most memes and charts posted on 4chan end around the mid-2010s. For you autist that will reply nuh-uh I said most, not all, but it's like mass production of charts and memes stopped around 2014-2016 and we've been recycling the same stuff for a decade.
>>152328869You really are stupid, aren't you? It's the Nips who literally kill themselves over working in an artistic medium; Americans simply complain about it on Twitter or something.
>>152328869North AmericaUS TAG minimum for inbetweener: $42.56 per hourCanadian CAG inbetweener minimum: $25.69 (USD) per hourAsia (handles 90% of US animation)Japan average rate for inbetweener: $5.90 per hour (below their minimum wage but this is due to freelancing)Korea average rate for inbetweener: $13.73 per hourPhilippines average rate for inbetweener: $3.81 per hourVietnam average rate: $4-7/hr, which is 10x the country's minimum wage
>>152324704Because god hates you
>>152329039Well 2014 is when they switched to flash and that's what they've used for every show or direct to dvd movie since
>>152326388>75% of the book is about walk cycles.I mean it makes sense. It's one of the earlier things animators have to learn that's also one of the most difficult to pull off convincingly.
old school corpos screwed over a lot of GA animators back in the day. Not helping matters were the fluctuating trends. What kid cares about Mighty Mouse these days when you have Homelander?
>>152328389To them it's not a problem, it's a constant. Or are you going to tell me they don't spurt out shit animation?
>>152331609Weebs genuinely believe that animating on ones is something invented for Akira and only ever done on Akira
>>152324704Not enough capital investments in the ism
>>152331740I find it funny, cause you don't even need to look that far to see the quality drops they have in anime. You have all the recent examples like One Punch Man or the Deadly Sins movie. Even in the old days with Dragon Ball Z.
>>152325928those were some pretty good episodes, but personally i prefer 1945-58. the animation seemed more lively
>>152328071awman..
>>1523290394chan lost a lot of daily traffic around that time
>>152324704'70s through '90s might be the worst T&J's ever faced..
>>152329039Most people fucked off because the culture war shit kept ramping up. /r9k/ memes blew up and that was that. A new crowd eventually took over and if you weren't into what they spread, you were effectively under a rock huddled in other boards or come back relatively recently.
>>152324704>why can't society have good thing againJews.
>>152335107Don't be so harsh, Steven Spielberg greenlit Roger Rabbit and that breathed some life into the dying animation industry
>>152329039I would like to blame the election but, honestly, the "old" 4chan culture was basically dead before 2016.
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>>152338031Hhhot.
>>152326118https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuNW9vLUxu4 save it before it gets copystriked
>>152328080>talentI dont think thats a big deal these days.
>>152338031https://youtu.be/6jj8956r9u4
>>152339664naisu
Nobody from my generation can draw, and i'm Gen X. Imagine how awful the crop of young artists is now. There's your answer.
>>152332749What would be enough in your eyes?
