Z-list characters with A-tier costume design
>>152421945What's her deal?
>>152421945I will not tolerate this disrespect towards the Legion of Superheroes. I demand satisfaction and will await you at the nearest Waffle House.
>>152422462>What's her deal?Unknown
>>152421945This killer moth
>>152422462She is Princess Projectra, who at the time watched her husband and fellow super hero Karate Kid, get killed in front of her by her longtime arch enemy Nemesis Kid, who also stranded her planet into limbo, pissing off her people. After restoring her planet back into the universe, Projectra wanted to rejoin the Legion but they had a strict no kill policy and Projectra flaunted it by saying because she was the leader of her planet, she had every legal right to kill her husband's murderer. So she decided to rejoin the team in disguise, which backfired on her as Emerald Empress tried to recruit her for the Faral Five, leading to her being unmasked. Afterwards, the Legion let her rejoin and she kept the Sensor Girl costume because fans loved the design.
>>152425195Cool
>>152422548LoSH are shit.
>>152427800You are
>>152425195Was it originally going to be Supergirl ?
>>152427821No, I'm not LoSH.
>>152425195So what, they were just fine with her breaking their no kill rule AND lying to their face after that?
>>152424619Charaxes at that point
>>152421945Fuck it. I love these threads I'll find a couple more. Hope other posters join in
Not Spawn with dreads. Doctor Voodoo.
>>152433067
>>152433067>fate>z-listerAt this point he's at least a C
>>152433085Yes he is, but I'm not sure about the other four members>>152433073
>>152433073Sister Symmetry looks real nice.
>>152421945damn you are right this costume is fucking awesome
>>152421945Not sure if some of the girls are on Z-list but here's a few of them that has a A-tier costume designs.
Mustang Suzy
>>152433115>mouseI'm still pissed they didn't make her a Catwoman rival.
>>152433132Bet you think all water and marine themed villains should be Aquaman's huh
>>152433137As long as it thematically works. Plus I'm not the one who's been trying to make Catwoman anything more than a Batman enemy for the last 60 years. The least they could do is give her a notable rival
>>152428395Yes, the idea was that it was going to be an amnesiac and nearly depowered Kara stuck in the 30th century. Jennette Kahn immediately nixed it so Levitz pulled Projectra as the reveal out of his ass since he had no other ideas.
>>152433137Yes. Not only that. The next time Joker poisons the fucking fish I need Arthur to storm the ports of Gotham and rip the tears from his eyes.
Wasted potential of a character. The same shit that happened to Poison Ivy and Harley>Hi I'm gay!>oh cool guess you can never ever be a villain again
>>152433115>Kabuki TwinInteresting take on Penguin having two silent weird asian assassin girls as his top henchmen
>>152433141If you're gonna make Catwoman anything more than Batmans cocktease then might as well give her her own personal rogue gallery, a villain or two. That's usually how you make side characters becoming more independent work, you give them their own toys to play with
>>152432990It's not clear if he's a mutate Moth made by his own heinous genetic engineering or if he's just a really dedicated furry.
>>152433540Exactly. Half the time a new player hits Gotham they instantly go after Bruce. But there's at least 13 other Gotham heroes who go off by themselves and have 0 antagonists. Or they're reused foes from Bruce. At least Nightwing gave it a shot. Oracle and her Birds too. But eventually Bruceman took the Blockbuster gang for himself.
>>152433586Thoughts on Martian Manhunter villain, Dr. Moth?
>>152433130That's a Hawkman enemy?! Though now that I think about it, it does make sense if you view this as a modern/futuristic Centaur type of character.
>>152433144Kahn being based as usual>>152428395
>>152433067I miss them.
>>152433055This is Dr. Strange during Black History Month.
>>152421945>masculine-looking basic bitch supersuit >tunic buttons to secretly tease the readers with the loss of that bodacious cleavage >steals Saturn Girl's color scheme for good measureAm I the only one who actually hates this design?
>>152434774I think it looks cool.
>>152433745based ragman anon.
Does he count as Ztier? I only ever saw him in the background of a JLU episode but maybe I'm a pleb.
>>152421945
>>152434818He was a pretty big deal in Crisis of Infinite Earths
>Captain Newfoundland scans never>crazy creator of it took down his store so I can't buy it
>>152433793>Dr. MothIt clearly says "Mr. Moth".
This is still one of the best one off designs ever.
>>152435280Space Kook would have been genuinely scary if it weren't for the sound effects, which I guess was the point of them.
>>152433055Good costume, but I'm still annoyed they abandoned his Brother Voodoo title to lean harder into the discount Dr Strange impression.
>>152433115
>>152433793Looks like a henchman from Venture Bros.
Saint Turtle
>>152433073If they took they took the first name out the characters would sound much catchier.
>>152438803You're the reason every new comic character has random word picked from thesaurus for a name instead of something new and cool like Captain America or Dr Doom.Master Pattern and Count Control totally slap.
>>152438803Probably trting to keep with the Doctor theme. I like it.
>>152433355Piper was always bottom of the barrel and barely evil. He was reformed and a friend of Wally's for years before he was eventually revealed as gay.
>>152435899I really wish they'd find more use for her because evil British hippie/psychedelic sorceress is great.
>>152433793Thats a cool spaceship
>>152435280Not z-list though. Scooby Doo is popular and that's probably the most famous monster from the entire franchise.
>>152433355He wasn't much of a bad guy from what I remember. Making him a reformed baddie isn't a terrible idea
>>152421945>Come up with a badass villainess design>relegate her to D-list Mutant villain squads with mostly background appearancesIt's just cruel after a certain point.
>is actually allowed to keep her sexy coombait designEven modern artists know there's no point in messing with a simple but effective look.
>>152440220I thought it was the Creeper.
>>152441249It is the Creeper, but Space Kook is definitely Top 5, maybe even Top 3.
>>152421945Overlord from Iron Man
>>152433061I have to assume this Misfit girl is some kind of joke character, because her aesthetic is giving "I shall vanquish you in the name of love, villain!", not "Dark vengeance!"
>>152441249>Hundreds of monsters across as many episodes>Most iconic villain is A Dude
>>152435950what ever happened to this art style?
>>152441805She's a Gail Simone character and I don't mean that Gail created her. Think of how Gail tends to write teenagers, that's more or less Misfit. If you've read her Uncanny run, she's basically just a less sheltered Horse Girl. She was annoying as shit and her showing up is around the point where BoP starts falling off when it becomes clear Gail doesn't have much of an idea as to what to do with the book anymore.Speaking of BoP, Zinda my beloved...
Bump
>>152441087Yeah but how often does she show up in a significant capacity
>>152442630This is a thread about Z-listers.
>>152442677Right, but that's my point. They're probably gonna not be out looking for her in order to change her. She sort of slips under the radar
>>152421945Silver from Simone’s Batgirl
>>152441871Say what you want about Myster Inc. at least they tried something new
I like these dudes
>>152433115>Ant. Hannah Washington>Ant Hannah>AntennaIt took me until seeing this pic to put that together.
Stingray's been around since the 60s and all he's done is get beat up by Iron Man that one time
>>152443192Oh shit>script by Jevin SmithIts shit.
Probably not a Z-lister I just only know him from the Flashpoint movie and his design always stuck with me
I'm a simple man: I like kitty cats and I like robot suits.
>>152443230I'M SORRY BUT THAT NAME
>>152443261What retarded X-Men character is this?
Marcie Cooper Harlequin
>>152433355>The same shitThose two characters stopped being villains long before they were gay.
Not sure if mech suits are count but this design is metal.
>>152440410Precrisis he was evil as fuck and tried to kill the mayorBut immediately post crisis yes he was a sweetheart
>>152443339Is this the same character from the New Superman movie?
>>152442710I did like the twist of him actually being correct in his assumption/quest.Also I get the vibe from him that if he had appeared in a Batman book instead of a Batgirl book he would still be appearing if not headlining some C tier batfamily crossover like Gothtopia
>>152443086He once fought the Scarlet Witch during the AXIS event
>>152432993Needs gold belt to match his bracelets and garter and break up all the white.
>>152433745>Ragman>Pied Piper>Spectre>doomThere's just something about a green cloak
>>152443264>yeah so what I'll do is cover myself head to toe in armour and I'll just leave my entire ponytail hang out the helmet>I am very smart
>>152444307Dr Alchemy too
>>152443394Didn't he just appear on TV. Expect a lot of faggot fans pretending they always liked him.
I can see why Mario Gully still seethes about selling her even if it was his own dumbass fault for wasting his career.Ant is a sexy as fuck design, and surprisingly minimalist. I actually like modern Erik Larsen but his relaunch with his Kirby impression was a waste of the character. She should be drawn by cheesecake artists.
>>152433067>>152433073>cape>cuirass>greaves>armbands>and Dr.Fate is the helmetIs the implication that there is some kind of armor of order? that's really cool
>>152445747Sex
>>152433073They don't look very orderly.It was actually cooler when they had Lords of Order manifest as geometric shapes and light patterns.
>>152433132She was, except they along with Slyfox were all hired for the same job in that story and Selina and Mouse worked together while Slyfox pulled the betrayal.Mouse just doesn't get used.
>>152433540Chuck Dixon spent a good deal of time doing exactly that for Catwoman. The problem is editorial hates him for whatever reason and disrespects everything he did. Like he created a deep origin rival nemesis for her in Hellhound, but instead of cool ninja rivalry stories they made him literal fodder in a sideshow to an event that didn't even involve Catwoman.
>>152433830There were a bunch of weird mutants making up an underclass of sorts in Chicago, like the Underworld in Metropolis in Superman comics of the same time, and mirroring the Downsider situation on Thanagar from Hawkworld.Mustang Suzy was amongst that group of characters - not exactly a villain or adversary.
>>152443264She should Death Battle with Cyber-Cat.
>>152443339That design and version of the Engineer suck monumental ass, as does the story they come from.
>>152441934Gail even claimed she had a secret origin story reveal in mind to explain Misfit's powers, that'd make her even more of a Mary Sue.That basically, Charlie was really from another world and born to some magic family and the people that died were family she was placed with on Earth.
>>152433067Why is Fate's helmet all melty?
>>152443139This guy looks bad ass, who is this?
>>152441871But he's a GREEN dude
>>152441805>>152441934>>152446396Wasn't Misfit also basically a sort of a jeer at people wanting a classic Batgirl again? She shows up wearing Bab's cowl and then is given powers so she can never actually be a batfamily character(at the time)
>>152433355Messner run was full of villains face turn to be honest.Chunk(that one started with Baron), the soviets , Cold/His sister, Speed Demon, even Killg%re, icicle with his sucessor. Only villains that couldn't be redeemed were the sect , Vandal and Dr Alchemist.And Pied's revelation was after his face turn.Ivy was a mess before becoming lesbian, she was in a love triangle with Hush and got killed
Only Z list because he’s dead, and DC doesn’t do anything with him. The green coat makes it just interesting enough not to be too plain.
>>152438123>Saint Turtle and their superforms were almost tailor made for the Red Skies seasons>The toys were never released State side
>>152446598And in the nicest way I hope he stays dead. There's a 0% chance modern DC wouldn't fuck up the character.
>>152446692This. He and Starman got to have the one thing no-one ever gets: an actual ending.
>>152446233Not that Dixon's work wasn't dismantled from the moment he left for Crossgen, but Catwoman's 90's era in general was targeted by 2000's DC writers for being "sexist" or whatever.
>>152446692The Harley Quinn show takes place at Noonan’s. Which is a “bad guy bar” so they already fucked up.
>>152446733James Gunn better either keep his fucking hands off of him, or bring in someone that actually has a love for the series.
>>152446432Gray Ghost. A former confederate soldier and one of Jonah Hex's baddies that they actually bothered to give a design.
>>152446233No more Slam Bradley adventures. Sadge
>>152447236>Bruce Wayne modeled himself on the sanitized Silver Age version of a confederate mystery man.Oof.
>>152447273Zorro. And his Gay Blade
>>152443230>Steven Grant>DCMoon Knight, you traitor! We trusted you!
>>152446503Red Trinity weren't evil at all even under Baron.>IcicleWasn't evil per se and was clearly set up to be Wally's Catwoman before Waid dumped everything Baron and Messner-Loebs did (and ruined Magenta).
>>152446841Well that saddens me.Is Baytor on the show? Section 8?
>>152447273> decades after the real Grey Ghost is long gone, writers and movie producers cashing in on the romanticized Lost Cause rework him into a noble hero> later still, the confederate ties are ditched in the 30s talkie remake of the early silent films , making him a then-modern character> this depiction sticks for the next few decades
>>152447863>Rubinstein…she’s jewish?
>>152434818>but I only watch cartoon versions of comic books
>>152448513batman brave and the Bold and JLU is like a gateway drug for z lister love
>>152447670There was Blue Trinity, however.
>>152447574Pretty sure that's the cover to Grifter #1 (first series), published by Image in 1994. Steven Grant was the writer.
>>152448988You're right and I apologize
>>152449033Two of the three basically stopped appearing after that group's story was done. Lady Flash appeared a little more and did end up as a good guy, then disappeared until she was randomly brought back in the 2000s as a villain for no real reason.
>>152448988would honestly kill for a Marvel equivalentnot nowadays of course because they’d screw it up big timebut if I got to see The Headmen duking it out with Hank Pym and/or the Avengers I’d be one very happy man
>>152421945I better not see a single Invincible character.
>>152447670I hate this. I know i know I'm a faggot. Yadda yadda. Whats the point of a parka if you're just going to be bare chest under it?
>>152440654If she was an actual dragon instead of just having mechanical wings strapped to her back, she'd be better known. Or stopped dying her hair red.
>>152450120She's literally just a rich girl who wanted to become Wally's crimefighting partner out of boredom, wanting to loot money stolen by criminals and wanting to fuck Wally. She wasn't really taking it seriously so you can argue that it was intentional to make herself more appealing to a horny young man.
Kinetic from Invincible
>>152450817Fuck off
>>152450817Huh
Reboot had some good shit
>>152443315They should bring her back. The JSA needs more female villains and the Harlequin name is still technically open since Molly is dead and the purple slutty Harlequin never showed up again.
>>152433130...I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but...
>>152433793Hey, he didn't NOT go through eight years of medical school to be called DR. Moth.
>>152446860Do it (or the Robinson STARMAN, for that matter) as a 90s period piece, maybe...
>>152446454Probably. DiDio even claimed she was one of the possible candidates to be the Batgirl for Bryan Q. Miller's run, but they went with Steph as she, Bette, and Wendy didn't seem compelling enough.
>>152444142I imagine it didn't go terrific
>>152434818Shouldn't he looks more pirate-ey?
>>152421945Hummingbird was fucking stupid, but this should have been Silver Age Hawkman's look.
>>152455000Almost.
>>152452973It's been forever since I've watched Reboot; weren't these guys the main villains during the season where the main cast were stuck on the internet?
>>152421945For all the shit Bendis did to the Legion, the design for X-ray girl is fine I guess.
>>152446591cool cover.
>>152459015Good old skeletits. Can't beat skeletits.
>>152432993My only exposure to this guy was in Death of Superman where Martian Manhunter pretended to be him
>>152434818Psycho Pirate used to be way bigger but he fell off post-Crisis
>>152440654This is just Jean's Marvel Girl costume with wings
>>152446860Can't they not use Tommy without Ennis's involvement/approval? I remember reading that somewhere.
>>152457634They were the reboot equivalent of mutants (like nuclear fallout mutants and space pirates who were buddies with Bob. To be more relevant to /co/ I should have posted all the single superheroes from the star trek parody...which was full of superheroes for some reason.
>>152460441>combination of Bob, Captain Marvel, with Ironman's colors, who talks like Kirk with a Lightsaber.Green spock girl was great too.
>>152459751They're 100% free to use Hitman, Jack Knight, Sandman characters, etc. whenever they want. But '90s DC gave a certain amount of respect to creators who had runs/characters that were completely finished so had handshake/genteman's agreements with Ennis, Robinson and Gaiman about not using their stuff without asking them first.
>>152443394pretty much Deathurge's design but with eyes so still rad
>>152460736What do think of D'spayre? When he started out, his cape was a lot less raggedy and he looked kind of like that with a white face and no boots.
>>152460948
>>152434818He was Big in pre-crisis and Tom King used him so no, is not Z-tier
>>152460948Criminally underused, I wish he got more attention. Love his design.
>>152460736Really cool spear
>>152460662We almost got a Sandman BTAS episode and the only reason we didnt was exec's. We would have seen bruce timm Death
>>152462412Lmao he's pissing on him
>>152462412Nice
>>152433064Who??
>>152433115what comic is the girl above Hazmat from?
>>152463836Black Alice. She takes the power set of whatever hero iirc.
>>152463836Black Alice was a character from the later part of Gail's BoP run who was a troubled teenager who could steal the powers of other magic-based characters. She wasn't particularly interesting and is from the same period of time as Misfit and thus from when the book started to get worse.
>>152464061
>>152431213It wasn't the first time it happened, starboy and dreamgirl did the same.
>>152450204I know what you are.
>>152464061Did she originate in Bird of Prey? Because I remember her specifically being part of the Shadowpact's stuff, which led to her being fucking ruined by the dogshit Reign in Hell story.
>>152446396Charlie was supposed to be from Gemworld.>>152446750>>152446233Jim Balent wrote and drew Catwoman, not Dixon. Also for context the "bad girls art" trend of the 90s was economically dead by the time Brubaker started his run.
>>152459704They call him the Superman of Hell and I want that to be known
>>152433793Looks pike a Captain Marvel/Shazam villain.
>>152467129Who calls him that? Who's 'they'?
>>152466199Yes, she was a BoP character.
>>152443086I will never forgive him for killing Steve Irwin.
>>152433793I'd be extremely disappointed if he didn't fly using his head
>>152421945Stardust, the Super Wizard
>>152467844Damn, that would've paired better with Kitten than KM. Imagine him, her and her boyfriend sitting around awkwardly after she introduces him.
>>152467782People.
>>152464389>Crohn's-Lass
>>152469362Meant for>>152467815
>>152445884I just picked up on that. I bet they come together and form the most useless fucking jobber to ever exist in the DC Universe since Superman, himself.
Holocaust (later swapped for Nemesis) from Age of Apocalypse, the only real relevance he has outside of the original comic are two action figures
>>152469499He better live up to that name.
>>152469530He killed Scarlet Witch in AoA and eventually ended up in 616 where he was redesigned(see pic) and never used again.
>>152447709They bring in six pack for kite man show
>>152469499I had one, good figure, bad posing
>>152450817idk the robot girl in the back looks better.
>>152469835From 2005-6 IIRC? They made an updated version based on his new design around two years ago which is how I found out he existed outside of AoA.
>>152421945>>152469890>you now remember when reboot made her into a snake
>>152453858Not a bad idea……..
>>152459751I think I heard that too. But Bloodlines was such a cluster fuck, they don’t want to remind people of it.
>>152433115If we’re talking masked ladies, Lionheart deserves a mention.
>>152462891They designed her as a Loli for some God awful reason.
>>152470353Lionheart has zero business looking as great as she does.
>>152462891I read Bruce Timm wanted to avoid anything DC Vertigo. Preacher showing up would be a very WTF moment.
>>152469499I miss him so much, I read age of apocalypse in 2003 and fell in love with every character.
>>152421945The red and white is the best, but I've always had a soft spot for this costume.
>>152443394why do Darkforce guys always look so cool??
>>152470334Yeah, that was hot, too. Reboot was the best Legion.
>>152470408Do you have any thoughts on the sequels? I haven’t read any of those. Also, for another Z-list villain with a dome helmet here’s Terminus, aka offbrand Galactus.
>>152471111Quads or no, does a mech count as a costume?
>>152471272I’d argue yes but it can vary like with Iron Man’s various suits.
>>152470413She gives me Char Aznable +LogH vibes for some reason.
>>152433055He actually looks better than spawn lmao
>>152471357That's why I didn't say mech suit. Terminus is pushing into piloted size, relatively speaking.
>>152469499He's responsible for the destruction of Avalon (and killing Rusty) and was an Exile during a time where people actually gave a shit about that book where he got killed by King Hyperion.
>>152471871He’s closer to a pilot but the mech is a major part of Terminus’s design so I’d say it still counts >>152471899Yeah, he’s a cool character, I was wrong on the 616 one that’s still around(albeit never used) being the same one, I just assumed they revived the AoA one.
>>152468125Stardust is NOT a Z lister
>>152421945But Sensor has a shitty design!It's Saturn Girl with pants and a cape then add a mask, for no real reason.
>>152472825What reason is required? Besides, Imra's had three or four color schemes over the years and to this day the only costume of hers that's even remotely memorable is the swimsuit. She was wearing pink and white at the time anyway.
This mf
>>152474684judge dredd looking mf
>>152474865eh i kinda see it
>>152474684>crimson dynamo>z listHe's one of Iron Man's more well known foes.
Billy gets the best bad guys.
>>152476958
>>152433115Mayday would be A-tier if her mask was different, it’s literally just her dad’s
