>IT'S OUT>TANGLE AND WHISPER TALKhttps://lnk.to/TheChaotixCasefiles
Actors confirmed:>Ashlyn Madden as Tangle the Lemur>Anairis Quiñones as Whisper the WolfWhisper is Nessa.
>>152446262>Quiñones identifies as non-binary. She uses she/her and they/them pronouns.>Quiñones is Black Puerto Rican.LMAOOOOOOOO WHISPERFAGS GET FUCKED
>>152446285>best IDW waifu gets cast as a fat DEI they/themThis can't be happening...
>>152446285>Pictures you can smell.I'm gonna hurl.
>>152446295aslong as the actor does their job right I don’t really care.
>one job sega you had one fucking job
It doesn't matter what voice actors look like you weirdos.
>>152446562Faggot
>>152446578Bart Simpson is voiced by a woman!!!
>>152446285haha when do I wake up
>ashlyn madden>not erika harlacherwelp, that sonic eclipse leak was bogus
>>152446599WHAT A SHOCK
This IP is fucking floundering and their trying to promote it by announcing the voice actors for actual Z-list characters.
>>152446295Lol bitch ass pussy
>Tangle doesn't sound like my headcanon Fuuuuuuuckkkkk.
>>152446664what did (You) think she sounded like?
>>152446285Oh...that rough
its fucking amazing whats his name has been eggman for what 20+ years
>>152446667Tomboyish, but not annoying.
I wonder if Surge will get an official voice soon.
>>152446285>Black gay character has a black gay actorOk?
>>152446685>survived a mass cancelling>openly anti Palestine>routinely tells autistic fans to fuck off and be normal on social media>kept on through three rounds of recastingLegit why is Pollock so invincible?
>>152446727He's the Eggman, duh.
>>152446727>why is Pollock so invincible?He's Jewish.
>>152446727Possessing enough chaos shekels will do that to a man
>>152446727He's got the master plan.
>>152446285>>152446295She sounds fine, so does it really matter?
>>152446243christ, Tangle’s voice and dialogue reeks of quirky chungus reddit but atleast her VA’s hot.Whisper’s voice is suprisingly adorable, gives me Kale vibes from DBS, too bad her VA is a they them weirdo though.
>>152446243>jewel mentioned as wellthis is not the way i thought they'd try to throw idw into game canon but alright
>>152446770It does when you have a hateboner for the comic and need excuses to complain online.
>>152446727he gives head to staff members every morning
>>152446243>>152446262
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>>152446727Dude’s been voicing Eggman since 2003, SEGA clearly values and trusts Mike more than a of bunch of pisshurt teenagers on social media over his political opinions, at worse, all they did was tell him to shut up already.Based Pollockchad
>>152446717I'd enjoy a pissed off-sounding Kristen Schaal.
>>152446243Ok but who’s voicing them in Japanese? Or this just another west only thing?
>>>152446727He's Jewish and based
>>152446590>Woman larps as little spunky boyGrass is green
Timestamp?
>>152446285Dios Mio La creatura
>>152446285I count three chins.
>>152446770>>152446791She sounds retarded. She sounds like a fat college quirk chungus doing an Ashley Birch voice, the character is meant to be some kind of tough badass war hero.
Attaching Whisper to Tangle ruined the both of them, more so Tangle.
>>152446984No matter how they try to hype up Whisper, she's always going come of as a fake solider with how they have to make the comics as from family friendly as possible. It's the same with Surge although with her it's a fact IDW does not know what the F to do with her Already showing she can never really be a threat to Sonic but they still want to push that bad girl attitude even though she pretty much jobs every fight or wins under contrived circumstances. With Sega's push to make remake Sonic into E for everyone IP now it's killed off a lot of tension most of their new characters can have and it has strangled Whisper to be of nothing more than a crying sad sap who can't actually do soldiering duties against anyone who's not C tier list fodder.
>>152447097i'm aware, but they should at least put more effort into the Voice Acting. This is the kind of voice acting you get in fionna and cake
>>152447121Its Sega, you're lucky to get this.Anyway, Whisper is cute. Tangle is deeper than I expected.
>>152447121Sega has embraced this lower quality of acting for a long while now. At least this reveal proves, again for the umpteenth time, that the Sonic Eclipse rumor was fake.
>>152447121lmao yeah she does sound like fionna and cakeWhy do all modern femVAs sound like that anyway? You never hear one that sounds husky or can do an impression.
>>152446243Can someone explain why these characters are popular? They aren't in the main cast of the games.
>>152447251Their creators from the comic they're from keep pushing them.
>>152447262Industry plants. Successful ones. Every sonic head I know keeps jumping for joy when they show up.
wow coleen sounds GARBAGE as charmy
>>152447239>You never hear one that sounds huskygod damn HW og VA made my peepee big, love her voice. The replacement was so shitty.As for female va's all sounding the same, blame the fucking shitty dub directors. Trying to go with a JP super high anime womens voice.
>>152447291Charmy has never sounded good.
>>152447302take off your trip retard
>>152447291The 4kids charmy was always the best
>>152447302I mean at least his voice doesnt wanna make you grip his windpipe and shove shit down his throat like in the past. Holy fuck has he had horrible voices>>152447312Rewd be nice to boco you cretinous faggot
>>152447302>>152447358i like his jap voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHICoLWv0nE
>>152447251Tangle slowly getting popular because she was introduced in a natural way, had an interesting gimmick that could stand with Sonic but be her own thing, and bounced off well of Sonic and his cast. Then they introduced Whisper as their sympathy 2edgy4me war solider with a "deep" story then realized Sega did would approve them going nearly as far as they need to to make her seem believable and decide to attach her to Tangle instead. Tangle's growth and interest stalled and she became a satellite character to Whisper, similar to the Blaze when she is around Silver.
>>152447390eh its just basic japanese young boys voice, yeah its clearly the best. Whoever thought making his voice high as fuck and beyond annoying and keeping it that way for the western dub. Beyond retarded like full blown fucking retard
So nobody here remembers that Anairis Q is not only Mirko over in MHA, but that she was going to be Yoruichi for the Bleach revival until Wendee Lee kicked up a bitchfit to throw her out and then bragged about getting the role back on Twitter.
>>152447413Yuji Naka didn't help.
This is peak because it's just a funny cartoon bee which fits perfectly with the comedic aspect of team chaotixhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-GET-gq6ko
>>152447417>Dub va's>Giving a fuckbruh barely any of them are good, ironically a lot of the good VA's that cared and put effort were from the early 00's-late 00's.Funimation was a fucking cancious blight
>>152447445This is a dub VA thread.
>>152446285AI will save us from this nightmare and these things can go back to digging through the trash behind 7-Eleven where they belong.
>>152446727Because Sega doesn’t give a shit about american politics. It’s why he’s still here and those two IDW chicks have to be the ambiguously gay duo and not a canon thing. And as annoying as he is, Pollock is a professional voice actor who does make a good mad scientist.
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>>152447251Fans like the idea of them.
>>152446285who cares
>>152447483dudes in his 60's tho wonder how long they are gonna keep him around for. The jp staff must legit love his voice for eggman to keep him this long.
>>152446262>>152446285Say what you will but she has a way bigger list of voiced characters than the other girl, who’s literally a discount Tara Strong. She’s voiced in plenty of games and movies before, so I find it funny only now people look up how she looks.The only thing that matters is that Surge gets the Caulifla dub actress. I always assumed every other IDW freak had a boring voice anyways.
>yet another thread that's just /pol/ pointing and Two Minutes Hating minorities
>>152447523There’s VAs who keep voicing well into their late 70s, and Eggman is an old figure. If they want to keep going with this “Eggman dad” plot it will only be a bigger excuse to keep him.However, whoever voiced him in Prime was pretty good, so you can just bring that guy if anything happens.
>>152447484How dare you besmirch my girl Mirabel
>>152447568>it MUST be /pol/
>>152447591Racism is definitionally /pol/ behavior.
>>152446243Uh, how old are they supposed to be? I thought they'd sound like adults.
>>152447604>Racism is definitionally /pol/ behavior.oh man reading this and trying to not to laugh was way way too hard
>>152447251>>152447402I still don’t understand the appeal of Tangle. She’s just a nice girl. How is she any different from your average Sonic OC personality wise?
>>152447706She's a monkey and that's kinda interesting if you're into fucking furries, since the Sonic series didn't have one yet. but yeah otherwise she's very very very bland in execution>>15244763015 and 16
>>152446285El goblino….
>>152447715Did Sega say that?
>>152447706There's this one part where she's fighting off zombies, and it seems like she's a pretty sick fighter who can hole her own even in this terrible situation, and then at the end of the chapter she's like "actually I got bit right away, I'm kinda just kicking ass until I turn" and then she turns. That's the kind of subversion of expectations I appreciate.
>>152447135>Its Sega, you're lucky to get this.This was not made by sega of japan boco this was made by soa.
>>152447769They're still pretty half-assed in a lot of things.
>>152447737they both had profiles
>>152446637The movies are the biggest moneymakers for Sonic, and they're not even made by SEGA. American Sonic IS the movies. Not IDW or this super niche podcast.
>>152447706Introduced early in the IDW reboot, also the extendable tail gimmick, and can keep up with Sonic with a similar personality to Sonic's in a athletic girl can do attitude. Bland enough to help support the story without overpowering the main cast in interest. Compare her to Tangle to which they made several story arcs that ended up subpar at the best of times along with giving her a arch enemy, Mimic, who turned out to be a dud villain at the end. Tangle at least had natural popularity growth but Whisper is a much more obvious industry plant.
>>152447785>They're still pretty half-assed in a lot of things.Do you mind explain the things that they are half assed at then ?
>>152447706She has a unique power that could have potentially be used in a game. Unfortunately the writers forgot how to write a fight scene so now Tangle just has a third limb to punch things with when she’s not being Whisper’s snot towel.
>>152447767>>152447897Problem is a lot of her strengths (outside of design) are things I can say about game characters who have stronger personalities. Kind, kicks ass, energetic, these are all words that apply to most of the hero cast. So if all she has is that then I’m not surprised they paired her up with Whisper as a way to hide how nothing of a character she is.
>>152447897>can keep up with Sonic with a similar personality to Sonic's in a athletic girl can do attitudeI'll say it again, but IDW should've been a Sonic & Tangle book. That way Sonic get to stay as Kakashi-like mentor he was designed to be, while Tangle's the relatable underdog and audience surrogate who screws up and learns the lessons. Let HER try to redeem others and fail, and allow Sonic inspire her to get back up and keep moving forward.
>>152447939That's too reductive. You should probably read the comic before making more idiotic statements.
>>152447923I feel like too has been a victim of her being attached to Whisper as well because with Whisper being a sniper they focused much on her Gun Wisp gimmick. Without that she's been shown to be pretty pathetic combat wise. Compare that to Tangle's earlier releases, she would use her tail much more as hook line, rope, and all creative stuff and now she using it more as a 3rd punching arm for combat.
>>152447939Sonic characters are supposed to be simple. Whisper and Surge having a Coldsteel-like edgy backstory just screams fanfiction. Tangle being a simple girl was part of her charm, and reflects how IDW was supposed to be game accurate at the start. It was more like they paired her up with Whisper once the writers stopped giving a fuck about being like the games and wanted to be Archie’s spiritual successor.
>>152447962I’ve read some of it, and if there’s not much to her beyond that and what you said, then I believe my assumptions were right
>>152448011Sonic characters are simple but with personality. Tails and Knuckles aren’t the same. Amy and Rouge aren’t the same. The Chaotix are all different from each other. They’re simple characters with distinct personalities and attitudes. If you put Tangle next to any Sonic character with a positive attitude then I don’t know what would make her stand out from any other. She’s just a happy girl, just like hundreds of shitty Sonic OCs I’ve seen online.
>>152447998Whisper’s also a victim of the writers forgetting how to write action. Re-read the Surge fight. They had the sniper character go full Unga Bunga and try to smash her with the hammer whisp.
>>152448020>>152448049You can easily stop embarassing yourself with blatantly incorrect statements any time.
>>152448062>You can easily stop embarassing yourself with blatantly incorrect statements any time.Anon hes not wrong here Tangle has no original personality stop acting like she has any to begin with.
>>152448091You can quit samefagging also. Like I said, there's this one part where she's fighting off zombies, and it seems like she's a pretty sick fighter who can hole her own even in this terrible situation, and then at the end of the chapter she's like "actually I got bit right away, I'm kinda just kicking ass until I turn" and then she turns. That's the kind of subversion of expectations I appreciate because no other character would've reacted this way.
>>152447767>>152448114...do you mean HolD her own???
>>152448114yes they would. In fact several characters did. Vector did. Knuckles did. Just about every hero who got touched at the end kept fighting anyway
>>152448157Vector was bitter and angry, and Knuckles was stupid. These characters have their own charm I suppose. If you have nothing substantial to contribute to your faulty assessment I reserve the right to not reply to you anymore.
>>152448173I'm not even that anon, i'm just pointing out that the other characters did exactly that. Knuckles wasn't stupid, he saw he was infected and kept fighting anyway because he's making himself useful before he turns. Same with Vector. Tangle was bitter also, she was nearly crying when she showed her shoulder.You seem very overdramatic. It's not a faulty assessment just because reality hurts you.
Tangle was probably the writers — being the casual weebs that they are — trying to write a "Genki" girl.But forgetting that part of the appeal of genki girls is they're silly and force themselves onto others and others get annoyed at them, so they're usually rude.Tangle reads like they're too pussyfooted to make her seem rude because she's an OC talking with le golden god sonikku who must be respectful of him. Or with her planned 2nd mini with Whisper that they cancelled because "Tangle was acting in a toxic way to Whisper". Like they're wanting a funny high energy character to be nice and polite and respectful of others at all times.Doesn't help that she's now shackled to Whisper, and can't even force herself on new characters anymore from always being part of the Diamondcutters
>>152448236>sonikkuFuck off Tailscel, kill youself
>>152448255It's always some ugly bitter manlet too. Dude's such a loser that he gets frustrated by fictional characters as if they're real. It's pathetic, and hilarious lol
>>152448255>he thinks only his boogeyman says SonikkuYou weren't around for the 2000s Sonic X fandom>>152448285projecting and seething at a word insulting your mascot character is more pathetic than anything
>>152448055>They had the sniper character go full Unga Bunga and try to smash her with the hammer whisp.>They had the sniper character go full Unga Bunga>the sniper characterThis is also the stupid part about Whisper: They hyped her up as a gun centric character but she ends up in situations where she has to go against living organic beings and potentially have conflict with the Sonic cast in future comics. Even trying to justify using wisps as ammo, Sega would never allow lethality to be shown like that. The fact that they tied her fighting prowess to her weapon and showed she's kind of useless without it Has really limited her to be a background character in any story she's included in that's not against Eggman's robotic army. Also having her job to Little Miss Electric Failure kind of puts her in the bottom of the fighting totem pole. Her only claim to frame now is that she was a sniper during the eggman war timeline which I doubt Sega is interested in visiting again anytime soon.
>>152448285>didn’t deny being TailscelGo goon to your shota porn and shut the fuck up
>>152448333You are literally the only person on the board who talks like that while crying about a children’s mascot.
>>152448367Well i'm not your boogeyman, so clearly nothttps://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/sonikku/you're currently crying because I lightly insulted Sonic. You're genuinely a projecting self-inserter lmao
>>152448384Yes dearie, that’s cute. Now go goon to your Rouge porn the adults are talking.
>>152448384wasn't even an insult, more like a funny jab in a whole paragraph insulting Tangle and Whisper. Sorry you have to deal with them.Sonic self-inserters are so pathetic, man. So fat and weak and ugly irl they must delude themselves into thinking they're a cartoon gary stu hedgehog to cope. And they sperg and seethe at anyone who criticises anything from the garbage series because if Sonic is mindlessly shilled then maybe that means they aren't failures to their parents.
>>152448433You're not an adult if you throw a little bitchfit tantrum because someone called Sonic "Sonikku" mockingly.
>>152448455Yes dearie, that’s cute. Now go goon to your Tails porn the adults are talking.
Why are Sonicfags sperging at Tails again this time? He's not even in this audio that's Mimic
>>152448384>Well i'm not your boogeyman, so clearly notPixly you are the only guy here that hates anything related to sonic and you are also the only guy here that likes to self-insert as tails.
>>152448467You're not an adult if you throw a little bitchfit tantrum because someone called Sonic "Sonikku" mockingly. You're a fat little self-inserter who gets upset if someone mocks his cringy self-insert
>>152448485Yes dearie, that’s cute. Now go goon to your Sally porn the adults are talking.
>>152448482Yes, absolutely true. Absolutely noone would ever genuinely have a criticism to throw at Sonic things or dislike something from Sonic. Inconceivable.
>>152448495You're not an adult though, you're a little bitch crying because someone criticised "Sonikku"
>>152448502No one else has a mental breakdown over a blue cartoon hedgehog overshadowing his fox self-insert but you.
>post character that has nothing to do with the thread>gets rightfully shit on>wHY aRe pEopLE sPErGInG?!!1
>>152448514I didn't bring up Tails, you did out of nowhere. Talk about mental breakdown and self-inserting.I said Tangle sucks up to Sonic and is too polite to be funny because of this, which is true.
>>152448529>post character that has nothing to do with the threadWhere? Noone brought up Tails. That's why I'm amazed you're seething at Tails again for no reason
>>152448545Sonicfags aren't normal anon, don't expect them to be. They're the biggest self-inserters on the planet and project that onto others for uuuuuuuhhhhh...having something mildly critical to say of Sonic, who they self-insert as. For now if you do you are now a "Tailsfag", because only the evil Tailsfags have critiques of the corporate product being shit.
>>152448236She’s tame, yeah. But so cute.
Well for now if the Sonic self-inserters are done,I'd rewrite Tangle to be naughty. Doesn't have to be mean, but she's literally a cheeky monkey. Think Tomo from Azumanga Daioh. It's a niche since the other cast act formal around eachother like coworkers.
I wish Potto was taken off Sonic.
>>152448340You replied to the wrong person, dingus.
>>152448571Why are you replying to yourself?
FACT: IDW is canon, they have said it's canon from day 1. Frontiers and Crossworlds and this audio drama are just further cementing that.
>>152449251>Belle is canon.Grim.
>>152448944He constantly samefags all the time.
>>152446772You basically described Tangle, so by your logic the casting was perfect.
>>152448790I wish people would read Drogune.
>>152448455>>152448384>>152448442Kill yourself, Tailscel. Seriously, do it.
>>152447402Whisper got away with a lot because she was an MGS reference and frankly Sonic fans love to steal from other media. But that's run its course, there's no meat on her bones.Evan should try to bring back the DC as digital ghosts under Sage, or use them to justify a scavenger hunt arc, or something. Anything to let Tangle and Whisper be silly action heroines again.I don't know who exactly is putting the kibosh on these two getting good action storytelling, but someone with real pull has a vision for the franchise that makes no damned sense to me.
>>152448062>>152448114>tells others to stop embarassing themselves while sperging outIDW fans in a nutshell
>>152448623Any personality trait beyond being “nice” would be better than what she currently has.
>>152449319Ok, fine. Pitch it to me.Why should anyone give a fuck?
>>152446285Daaaamn, American women look like that?
>>152449251FACT: Even if IDW fucking explodes, Sonic Team is going to continue using characters from it
>>152449319Why? If I read it, I'd just think it was boring and sucks.I want him back doing Megaman comics, those were pretty good before they got sucked into the Pendering.
>>152449586>Belle will continue to exist beyond IDW.Even grimer.
>>152447251>these characters are popularThey are?
>>152449611>Why? If I read it, I'd just think it was boring and sucks.>"I would think this thing I didn't read is bad if I read it."Maybe you should form your opinion based on what you read instead of weird grudges.
>>152449642No, Belle, not Grimer.
>>152449723Didn't you get banned from /trash/ for flooding the website with Amy threads?
>>152446720Whisper isn't black.
>>152450099What's the color of her skin, anon?
>>152446984Whisper is 16
We should have gotten Fang and Mighty voices instead.
>>152450656Brown?
>>152450656We don't know, we haven't shave all her fur yet.
Tangle is literally just female Sonic personality wise
>>152446262>>152446285One claims to be non-binary, that for all we know is just her riding the woke train for brownie points.The real question is... are either of them lesbians? And if they aren't, what does that mean for Whistanglefags?
>>152450099She is, actually. Evan Stanley said so years ago.
>>152450938Didn't see also say tangle was Italian? She wasn't Italian in this I didn't here a single mama mia
>>152447251>Can someone explain why these characters are popular?Depends on what you mean by “popular.” I’m not sure if they were ever truly popular through their own merits, or if it was just a fabrication pushed by fans due to:>They are inclusive characters, so we have to love them>They are original characters of authors we love, so we must love themAnd, as some anons have pointed out, they are characters that Ian and Evan keep pushing, with their current positions within Sega likely giving them an advantage in securing spots in games and other projects.
>>152450909Tangle hasn't had a personality since lesing up with Whisper.
>>152450938>"it's my intention that she's black"I wish her intention was for her to be a good character instead.
>>152450656wolf colored
>>152450938Whisper is a Mobian Wolf. She doesn't act black and black skin or black furn doesn't equate to being an African.People who attach race to fictional non-human characters are infantile, race-baiting 'tards who suck all of the fun out of every room they enter.
>>152451133The star of this franchise Sonic the American Stereotype Hedgehog
>>152451165Sonic is a blue mobian hedgehog. It doesn't matter what "inspired" him. He's not a human, he's not from Earth.
>>152451133Mobius is dead, these characters live on modern day Earth alongside humans. They're literally talking to a human for most of this audio show.You'd have a point if these characters weren't basically human in every way human in every meaningful sense.
>>152451133At exactly what point in time, and how, did the Sonic fandom become so obsessed with assigning a specific “race” to every character?I was part of the 2000s era Sonic fandom, and sure, I might have seen a Black Knuckles here and there back in those days (whether a human version or just a muzzle recolor), but never with the intensity of half the fandom claiming:>“If you disagree with this, you're just a racist”
>>152451133Imagine having to attach an identity to a fictional character because you need to virtue signal 24/7 or are insecure about yourself, or both. They're pathetic people, Anon.
>>152451202Game-wise, which IDW follows, the series has always taken place on Earth. Most of the characters even live in a country called the United Federation, which is run by a human president.
Lol
>>152451214Sonic's world is called "Mobius" until they come up with a cooler name and in 99% of the continuity, Mobius and Earth are two separate worlds.At the end of the day, they're not fucking Human, so putting a racial identity on them is absolutely pathetic. Race doesn't help describe any of them at all! It's such a stupid and sad attempt at trying to claim fictional characters in their political camp."HURR DURR, SONIC WOULD HATE ICE!!! EGGMAN WOULD KILL HITLER!!!!!"These people can fuck right off.
>>152451271First off, they aren't Human and secondly, What time period does their "Earth" takes place in, Anon? They live in 2026 right across the street from your house? Does Big the Cat collect disability checks? Why Trump running The United Federation into the ground, dude????
>>152451271Their Earth doesn't mean it's OUR Earth.
Islam is one of the confirmed religions in the Sonic games.Will Evan and company finally introduce a proper Muslim character?Will it be a true Muslim, or a Hollywood one (be it, classic or modern)?
>>152451133>She doesn't act blackWhen you say this, you mean she's not a ghetto food stamp queen with 3 kids each from a baby daddy who are MIA or just in prison. Be honest, retard.
>>152451440That’s what he said, the average black woman
>>152451133nigga callin other people infantile like he isn't chimping out and attaching outraged political baggage to the creator of a character saying "yea i kinda thought of her as black"
>>152451133Whisper is a black womyn of power written by middle class white hands, as per her creator's intent and her publisher's design to signal how virtuous they are>>152451409Hollywood girl, just like Miss MarvelA trophy to put on the rack, but not one anyone likes to use
>>152451409I guess that means that the Gerudo Tribe are Muslim and Link is a convert then.How do you know those people are Muslim exactly? How can you calim they aren't? Have you been there?
>>152451478>Have you been there?No, anon, I have never been to Masjid Al-Aqsa.
>>152451463You're the ones chimping out by going out of your way and constantly screaming about it on here, it's annoying and it's retarded. Got a problem?>>152451440Is she not? Maybe she does have 3 kids and is collecting welfare! Shit, maybe you're right, Anon, maybe Whisper is black! Hell! Maybe she's a martian, Whisper never said she fucking wasn't.
Since we're doing this, Knuckles is not a black guy.
>>152451520So you're saying Donald Trump runs GUN and the United Federation and that our Moon has been blown in half?
>>152451463>attaching outraged political baggageBut given the current state of modern /co/ creators... isn't that what Evan just did?
>>152451271Earth is a separate planet from sonics world. Earth has humans and gun, so is world has sonic worldians
>>152451555People like him are retarded and cannot differentiate fiction form reality like Evan, or are being disingenuous and just want to attach fictional characters to their own identity because they're insecure.
>>152451546Isn't he Ugandan
>>152451600Do you know de way
>>152451600No. He's a nerdy white boy who spills his spaghetti around girls.>>152451568Thats not canon anymore.
>>152451612I need to kill myself for laughing at this
>>152451546You're right, he's a red Angel Island Echidna.
>>152451619Knuckles isn't white. He's black like piccolo.
>>152451612>>152451628
>>152451647You must be really insecure about your race, Anon. Why does Piccolo need to be black soo bad? Want to talk about it?
>>152451647He really isn't. If he ever actually heard rap it would anger and scare him.
>>152451661I'm white. I don't want losers like piccolo and knuckles to represent me. Only chada like shadow, sonic, or silver
>>152451339There is no "Sonic's world" anymore. It's just Earth.
>>152451714When do they say that in the IDW comic? Is Eggman the last Human?
>>152451714No earth is another world, that is separate from sonics world that sonic worldians visit occasionally
>>152451687>knuckles is white!knuckles is japanese
>>152451687Piccolo is a Namekian, why the fuck would he be White or Black? Seriously, are you people literally incapable of separating fiction from reality?
>>152451731"Sonic Worldians" is fucking lame.That's why I say "Mobian or Mobius", sounds cooler.
>epstein-programmed goyim mad that whisper's VA isn't rooting for THEIR football team even though the VA is doing a great jobI have goy-cattle fatigue.
>>152451787the VA sounds like shit. She can't do a deep or husky voice so instead she sounds like every generic Ashley Burch college kid ever.
>>152451787>VA is doing a great jobLolLmao
>>152451731Thats not canon anymore. Its just Earth. Anthros live on isolated islands, humans live on main continents.
>>152451553Yes, Trump is obviously the GUN Commander, and the Election arc was cut because Ian talked SoJ out of it.
>>152451816According to whom? Who said this in the comic? Was this on a map? Because that sounds boring as hell and whoever came up with that completely lacks imagination and passion.
>>152451871Tailstube said so. Ya know, the Youtube cartoon that clarifies canon stuff and is written by Sega themselves.
>>152451826Yes and Elon Musk is Doctor Eggman. You're right, Anon, how foolish of me.
>>152451882So the Sega CEOs said that and they completely lack imagination and passion. Fuck those boring old pieces of shit.
>>152451894>Elon Musk is Doctor EggmanNow, you're being silly. You're giving Elon too much credit.>pic relatedmy sides
>>152451925It was a dumb retcon that raised more questions than answers anyway.
>>152451546Knuckles is the blackest Sonic character. Shadow is a faker.
>>152452057That's why I refuse to recognize it because it makes no goddamn sense. lol Is Sega going to start having the cast read from the Communist manifesto next?
>>152451871It was in TailsTube. Humans live in big countries, the animal people live on islands. Though sometimes they co-exist like Amy living in Station Square during Sonic Adventure.Having two separate worlds was always a retarded and lazy idea.
>>152452128This shit is kinda dumb in itself cuz its just another way to separate them as they did. Plus with IDW there's TONS of mobians running and living in supposed human locations so lmao with that.
>>152452128Yeah and just having them live on Islands ISN'T a retarded and lazy idea.Fuck you and everyone else who shares you trashy taste.
>>152452128>two dark-skinned humans centerfoldI wouldn't mind the inclusion if Evan and her peers' pandering was, at least, a bit more subtle.
>>152452211Rouge works for a human government, so clearly there are outliers
>>152452128so it's an 'Island of Doctor Monroe' ripoff now? Great. Do you not realize how retarded that sounds?
>>152452250They can't imagine another World other than Earth, Evan and Ian are the definition of "npcs".
>>152451687>silver>chadLol, lmao even.>>152451661>>152451746To be fair, Piccolo's clothing is based on the moors and Knuckles was given stereotypical black traits like dreadlocks, rap music, grapes as his favorite food (the stereotype is grape soda usually), rastafarian colors (his shoes), and even plans to have a Jamaican accent. Piccolo was probably just Toriyama thinking the clothing looked cool since not much else indicates Piccolo is based on black people besides jokes about how tall he is, but Sonic Team abolutely knew what they were doing with Knuckles in the 90s. The Sonic franchise was originally designed to be stereotypically American and hip and the radical token black guy is a usually a must for that.
>>152452296Dreadlocks and moors weren't invented by black people, so what the fuck is your point exactly?
>>152452128Sonic Team wants humans so bad for some godforsaken reason that they unwittingly created a segregated planet.
>>152452327They want to spread DEI and identity politics into the Sonic IP, that's literally the only reason why.
>>152452305Speedreaderbro...
>>152452344Escapism = Fascism to these people apparently.
>>152452327Humans have been in the games since Adventure. Humans other than Eggman just stopped being plot-relevant after 06.
Two worlds and human segregation are retcons that got pushed into canon by localizers, nonfans like game journos that cried about everything that wasn't Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Eggman, and Archiefags like Ian and Evan that use as an excuse to push their ugly OCs.>Sonic in some of his earliest development was meant to have a human girlfriend>Sonic CD has statues depicting humans>Sonic R has depictions of Christianity>Sonic animal characters and humans are treated as just naturally living together in the Adventure games with humans even flirting with Amy>Dynamite Dux, a game canon to Sonic through the character Bean, is full of humans with certain ports leaving hfoma implications, though through magic or black pimpsSonic has always lived on Earth and with humans.
>>152452128The DC crossover also referred to it as "Earth, Sonic's Dimension, so yeah, the "two worlds" crap is dead
>>152452512I don't care what Evan and Ian and their fan fiction says.
>>152452532Sega approved it, no amount of copium will change that. The planet is now Earth, as it's referred to in Sonic Team's games
>>152452296>Piccolo was probably just Toriyama thinking the clothing looked coolWhich is likely the same for Knuckles, at least when he was first conceived. The colors of his shoes were an aesthetic choice based on the flag, and the dreadlocks were a different proposal for his quills, but they’re not strictly a reference to Black people or culture. The rap music didn’t come in until SA2 (unless you’re telling me his SA1 OST was also rap or that he had rap music before, which I may have forgotten).As for the Jamaican accent, I’m curious about who proposed that and who rejected it, especially considering the Mesoamerican-inspired roots they were going for in SA1. I’m assuming this decision was for that game, since it would have been his first with a voice. But if I’m mistaken, feel free to correct me.Finally, the grapes thing is the only point I feel might be a stretch, but I’m open to debate or being corrected on the other points.
>>152452541What did I just fucking say? Ian and Evan ARE Sega.
Humans were always in the games, the Genesis games just never showed them.
>its reddit pretends to be /pol/ a'clock 24/7
>>152452544https://archive.org/details/sonic-knuckles-official-game-book/mode/1upThe idea for a Jamaican accent was planned all the way back during the release of Sonic and Knuckles.
>>152452496And it's been a terrible choice for that long. It's meaningless apart from convoluting the worldbuilding. They only thing it tangibly does is de-mystify the world by insisting that "it's totally Earth, guys"
>>152452595It's better to have Sonic not be from our World. Having him just being from some Island isn't fun or creative at all and it makes zero sense. Call it cope, but I'm not going to accept it as legit because Sega, Ian and Evan are morons who don't even know what a woman is. Why should anyone accept their bullshit?
>>152452636I didn't say it didn't, I questioned the implications you assigned to it.
>>152452664Because its been like that from day one.
>>152452674My bad, I understood you were talking about the shoes. I apologize.
>>152446243Am I the only one that felt whisper voice was a bit too....babyish I guess is the word? I mean whisper is a soldier and a bit of a harden assassin at times I expected her to have a bit more of a mature voice. Not the destinated bottom meek voice they gave her
>>152452674I never said you didn't. You were wondering when, so I showed you when.
>>152452701See >>152452692Again, my bad.
>>152452675People like you are unbelievably boring.
>>152452636>The idea for a Jamaican accent was planned all the way back during the release of Sonic and Knuckles>Jamaican accent>In a voiceless/textless gameSorry, will look at the file later, but how again?
>>152452693I expected more rasp.
>>152446243If Tangle & Whisper are canon to the mainline games and not just relegated to spin-offs that means they cannot be lesbians or ever be in a relationship, various of the current game's writers including Fatso Flynn said that SEGA no longer allows relationships between characters at all and just want to avoid them, that would explain why Amy no longer is horny for Sonic or why they dropped the Rouge x Knuckles/Shadow thing games like Adventure 2 and 2006 had (Sonic X too) You can say that they technically are mentioned on a mainline game ("Frontiers" never played it, the story and gameplay just don't do it for me), but Waluigi is mentioned in Super Mario Odyssey with his hat being something you can purchase with a description that reads "it is barely ever used", so that case might be the same for Tangle and Whisper, just spin-off game fodder, Sticks had that role in the Olympic games but she's memory holed now
You think Sonic writers regret their attempted Bowserification of Eggman in Frontiers? It feels like nowadays they're struggling between keeping him an irredeemable maniac and turning him into a hecking parent who cares for his robot kid as a sign of hope for redemption.
>>152452786I can see this too, maybe I'm spoiled by the comic dubs
>>152451339>Mobius and Earth are two separate worlds.Not even in Archie/Satam that was true, Mobius was just future Earth.Also Sonic doesn't have two worlds anymore, it's just one fictional Earth, like DC or Marvel.
>>152452693Shes 16
>>152452867Amy is like twelve and has a drivers license.The ages are fucking stupid, Anon.
>>152452829Technically it was Earth in the future, but the inhabitants of that future called it "Mobius". Earth ceased to be when the gene bombs fell on it. ...and no, it's not like DC or Marvel. You DC and Marvel people disgust me. Your comics became shit so now you have to flee to the Sonic IP. That is absolutely pathetic.
>>152452912>the inhabitants of that future called it "Mobius". Earth ceased to be when the gene bombs fell on itBut it was still the same planet, it was just changed, sure it got a new name, but it's not any different from Earth being called "Terra" or whatever whenever a story takes place in a different time period, it's still the same place, just during different periods of time.>it's not like DC or MarvelWell, how about Mario then? His games also take place on Earth, just a fictional version of it, that's just how certain series do it, they take place in fantastical fictional versions of a planet that they still call Earth.
>>152452796>You think Sonic writers regret their attempted Bowserification of Eggman in Frontiers?Is that supposed to be considered a bad thing? Even after Junior was introduced, Nintendo still made a point to show that Bowser was evil. He may have a soft spot for Junior but he still is seen as a large credible threat still to this day. It also helped that Bowser junior, in the same game he was introduced, said he wanted to follow in his father's footsteps and has more or less continued being the a antagonistic force to Mario and the gang. Serge seems to be on a sage seems to be on a similar road but looks to be more of a spoiled know-it-all eggdaughter compared to Junior.>It feels like nowadays they're struggling between keeping him an irredeemable maniac and turning him into a hecking parent who cares for his robot kid as a sign of hope for redemptionBowser still regularly invades the Mushroom Kingdom, causing massive damage, and would have high casualties If Nintendo were to increase the age rating. Hell Mario Galaxy ending has him nearly destroying the universe in a supermassive black hole If not for mommy space goddess stepping in but fans see him as a loving father and legitimate threat to be taken seriously still.
>>152453040no? mario is from brooklyn but the mushroom kingdom is in another dimension. mario is an isekai character
>>152452661There is literally nothing wrong with it being "Earth, except humans and anthropomorphic animals both live on it".Having two separate worlds just overcomplicates things and begs the question of what Eggman is even doing in "Sonic's world" instead of just conquering the human world.
>>152453120That's from the movies/shows, not the games.You really need to learn to differentiate those man.
>>152453121Having Humans and anthropomorphic animals in it complicates it even more. It's easier to say Sonic uses warp rings to travel to different places. Humans and Mobians are two totally and completely alien to each other and having them live on the same planet just willy nilly makes no sense. It made sense when thousands of years passed and Earth was transformed by alien bombs, but if there is no lore reason, then it doesn't make sense, it's confusing and just plain stupid. You and I are Human, have you even seen something like Sonic before? No, I don't think you have.
>>152453187>instead of just having everyone living in one planet with lots of different types of people like most series do>let's instead have two planets that have the characters use warp rings to travel between them, effectively making anthros and humans aliens to each other, and raising a ton of questions of how these two planets even interactThat's not easier, that's way more complicated.
>>152453187I've seen a Hedgehog before
>>152453187>if there is no lore reason, then it doesn't make senseNot everything has to have a lore reason, like how Sonic is blue or why he can go so fast.
>>152453226I didn't know hedgehogs were three feet tall and could talk in a way a Human being could comprehend. You people take things way too literally, where did your imaginations go??
>>152453243Did you not play his games? He and and his friends and others like them were clearly affected by the Emeralds and the power they exert. They literally transform Sonic when he absorbs more of their power. Life in his world were clearly influenced by objects like the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald.What the actual fuck is with you people and this surface-level thinking? Am I talking to entities without souls or something?
>>152452867idk why I thought she leaned more rouge's age actually
>>152453309Nah she was always sonics age just heavily traumatized
>>152453296Anon, I think you're just more autistic than us.
>>152453296Ok so why can't they master emerald and the chaos emeralds have made islanders furry people lI mean hell we know that birds on sonics world are aliens
>>152453296>What the actual fuck is with you people and this surface-level thinking?Anon you are talking to a classic fag he doesn't give a single shit about lore he just want a normal story where sonic runs and fight eggman and that it.
>>152451612>>152451628>WE NEVA FREEZE
>>152452507>Sonic R has depictions of ChristianityHuh?
>>152446243eugh
>>152453391I'd rather be an autistic fuckwad, than be a dumbed down tard like you and everyone else who just sits down and accepts this islander garbage. Unlike you, I enjoy some depth when it comes to story telling, so excuse me if I pointed out the fact that your kiddie pool is lame.
>>152453223Nah, it's more complicated for them to share a planet because the second you bring it up, the natural follow-up question is "well, where are they?" Then you have to explain that while they live on a planet with humans, you'll never ever see them again. And why? Because Sega are cowards and won't get close to inviting comparisons to '06. They so badly want to stick to ill-conceived lore, but the only way you can do that is by acknowledging humans again in any capacity, which they're too spooked by. It begs the question why humans even have to be on the planet at all, and creates a whole convoluted mess of meta questions and in-universe confusion.
>>152453764>"well, where are they?"Islands and mainlands, they already said this.
>>152453764>It begs the question why humans even have to be on the planet at allBecause that's how it was made in the first place, Eggman IS A HUMAN, he's from the same planet as Sonic.
>>152453813Yeah, and Sonic & Co have to deal with world-ending threats. Pretty big thing to leave out the whole-ass mainlands. >>152453820It doesn't stretch the imagination even slightly for an evil superscientist to figure out how to somehow warp to a different planet/dimension with the hopes of plundering its resources.
>>152451440>3 kidsWisps?>collecting welfareMooching off Tangle>martianFuck, that at least sounds exploitable.
