Hello anons, how do we feel about her works? I got some free time so I might storytime some of them later.
>>152447470Love her stuff. One of my favorite cartoonists. Smile, Sisters and the new Cartoonists Club are the only ones that haven't been storytimed so if you plan on that focus on those three.
>>152447526I shall start with Smile then, thank you.
>>152447999Oh boy, can't wait! ^v^
>>152447470Love her work.
>>152447470Nobody would be reading her shit if Scholastic wasn't allowed to market directly in schools under the guise of "promoting literacy."
>>152447470I like her art for baby sister club comics
>>152449028She's actually returning for a new book this year
>>152448945What are libraries?
>>152447470Didn't grow up on her works but I can see the appeal and why kids love them so much
>>152449088The things nobody uses? Scholastic makes most of their sales through book fairs. If Marvel or DC had been allowed to sell their comics directly in schools and have days where kids' classes would go to the set up to buy them, they'd have been in a similar position. It's not like Scholastic is selling kids anything actually enlightening or educational either so the idea that Goosebumps or Captain Underpants hold more value than a manga or Spider-Man comic doesn't work.
>>152448945Getting kids to read at that age is how you promote literacy. Subject matter interest is how you get them to read. It’s about building the habit to keep reading as they grow up. Scholastic has no right to monopolize a captive market with the book fair, but the fact that capitalist businesses are money grubbing scum who see people as resources to exploit doesn’t make the whole concept of an event for kids and families to buy books in schools wrong. Kids need more books with more variety, from Scholastic and everywhere else.
>>152449656>where kids' classes would go to the set up to buy them,Book fairs happen after school
>>152448945Kids like her comicsSimple as
>>152449718Not himEhhhhh I see the point and I say this as someone who does like Graphix and other kidlit comics but people also defended Harry Potter simply because it got kids reading again curbing illiteracy ratesIt didn't work in the long-term Those kids either mostly gave up on reading as they got older or they reached arrested development and stuck to YA novels
>>152447470Babysitters Club, Guts
>>152449990>Those kids either mostly gave up on reading as they got older or they reached arrested development and stuck to YA novelsYeah but there's a very obvious reason why that happened in the last 15 years, and it's not the fault of books.
>>152449990I don’t think we disagree. Reading is good for its own sake, the act of reading is how literacy is built, and the popularity of books can’t be expected to singlehandedly compensate for all the ways we let kids down in their actual education. Taking books away from kids makes things worse, so we should not take books away, but also put more effort in than marketing Harry Potter and constantly strive to improve things somewhat, lol. It’s a good thing kids have Raina Telgemeier books.
>>152447470I don't like her art.
>>152449718Raina Telgemeier, author of BSC and Baby-Sitters Club. She's been a staple in our storytime threads for years now.Thanks to /trash/ and the power of random anons that were interested enough (and had time), we've managed to get through every volume except one so far! So thanks again for being there, anon. I hope you're doing well today.
>>152450312This post was written by a woman.
>>152447470I met her once and she was an incredibly nice person. But Smile selling through the roof was kind of disastrous for comics as a whole because it solidified the industry trend toward chasing female readership, and now we have superhero families, endless nauseating cutesy dialogue, and comics about Harley Quinn farting.
>>152450602>But Smile selling through the roof was kind of disastrous for comics as a whole because it solidified the industry trend toward chasing female readership, and now we have superhero families, endless nauseating cutesy dialogue, and comics about Harley Quinn farting.I don't think that's necessarily on Smile because even DC and Marvel's kidlit stuff isn't just "Smile but Capeshit"
>>152450637Kids aren’t the audience in this scenario. Moms, teachers, librarians, Publisher’s Weekly staffers and Twitter habitués are.
>>152450725I know Raina's books have their adult fans but are there are actual diehard ones about it and similar like the Sunny series?
>>152450725Isn't the YA audience (i.e. the webtoons crowd) more to blame for that?Smile isn't YA, it's for actual kids
>>152447526I have not heard of Cartoonists Club! Any good?
>>152450602I was expecting the Ryan Gosling copypasta.
Raina no!!! Not you too!
>>152449572I think this is actually a good page in really making you feel like you're in a family minivan. The sense of space here is really good.
>>152447470One of the more widely beloved children's graphic novelists for sure
>>152447470I like her comics, though I'm biased since I read a lot of them when I was younger. Only comic of hers I didn't really like was Drama
>>152451240this has to be fake
>>152447470That striped sweater looks so comfy!
>>152451240>>152452509It's not. I doubt it was Scott McCloud's idea.
>>152449932Nta but when I was a kid in the 2000's we would go (usually right before lunch) and the setup would be during the day. I never had an afterschool scholastic bookfair after school.
>>152453126tell me about it
>>152451240>>152453322has the cartoonist club been storytimed here? Also, what's the qrd on McClouds relationship to Raina?
>>152454453>Also, what's the qrd on McClouds relationship to Raina?They co-wrote a book
>>152454615oh
>>152448945ass-blasted capeshitter detected
>>152447470Did she do that book about the kids who move to a new town where there's ghosts? I liked that.
>>152449656>Scholastic makes most of their sales through book fairsYou are retarded.Scholastic sells their books in normal fucking bookshops, WORLDWIDE. You know whay DC and Marvel don't? Because they decided to only sell in comic book stores. They did it to themselves.
I only ever saw Smile at the library because I was not in the demographic for it.>Pedagogical disadvantages of using Smile>While scholars considering the way literature is taught may believe that graphic novels like Smile provide unique opportunities for children who do not love to read to explore a new type of storytelling, Professor Michelle Ann Abate holds that graphic novels like Smile often include typographic features such as irregular capitalization that are more difficult for children who struggle with literacy to process.[7] Additionally, Professors Wendy Smith-D’Arezzo and Janine Holc note that Smile fails to represent people with marginalized identities in roles that are central to the plot of the novel.[12] They criticize Smile for centering a white, middle-class family that interacts mostly with people who share their background.[12]Oh fuck off.
>>152454788She got flack over Ghosts as well for cultural appropriation concernsThe book was also influenced by a young relative of her ex who passed away and she actually teared up a bit when she had to bring up her divorce at a convention. Thi Bui comforted her during it.
>>152454768Not him and I'm not saying Raina's success is strictly owed to book fairsYou really underestimate the influence book fairs had for Graphix's successIf you look into what kids comics were like in the 2000's, there were so many ones that failed to reach kidsEven ones that had proper book store distribution failed to take off.There's a reason why Marvel has made deals with Scholastic to let them publish works with their characters
>>152450166This art style sucks
>>152454904That's just a level of petty I'll never understand.
>>152455123I mean?I sort of get it?The ghosts were located around missions which more or less became a hot button topic in recent years concerning the treatment the real life indigenous people had at said places.It's been a while since I read Ghosts but if I remember correctly a significant amount of people's gripes stem from how the ghosts were speaking the language of the oppressors who fucking killed them but I don't think it's worth making a big shitshow over it nor do I think Raina was consciously malicious when writing a book meant influenced by someone she actually knew.
>>152454788>Professors Wendy Smith-D’Arezzo and Janine Holc note that Smile fails to represent people with marginalized identities in roles that are central to the plot of the novel.[12] They criticize Smile for centering a white, middle-class family that interacts mostly with people who share their background.[12]Is this from fucking Wikipedia? What a ridiculous thing to include, guess she has haters among the editors (the editors who are more equal than others, I mean). I bet it doesn’t say that on the page for every other piece of western media it applies to, which is a lot of it.
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>>152455170Those gripes sound as fake and gay as the ones about Uncle Remus being "too fucking happy" so we can never be allowed to view the first movie that a black american received an acadamy award for.
>>152455222Anon...the difference with Uncle Remus was that he was you know?Alive and free?It's kind of like making a story involving happy non-German Jew ghosts at an abandoned concentration camp who speak only German.Ghosts was also apparently very inaccurate to the Holiday and Raina herself acknowledged it.Even people who think the story was genuinely good point out you could remove Dia De Los Muertos and fundamentally nothing would change, it's not like Coco where it's actually fundamental to the plot
>>152455241>Anon...the difference with Uncle Remus was that he was you know?>Alive and free?The people who got Song of the South confined forever to the vault didn't care about that.Also, the ghosts in Ghosts weren't killed by whitey. Complaining about them talking english to the girl is basically the same complaint as those who said "why is that black man telling jolly stories to those white children like they don't owe him reparations"?
>>152455338>The people who got Song of the South confined forever to the vault didn't care about that.And I'm not defending thatI'm just saying Remus isn't comparable to the ghosts >Complaining about them talking english to the girlSee it was actually them speaking Spanish that got people raising eyebrows
Specifically it was this moment that got brought up a lot
>>152455354>it was actually them speaking Spanish that got people raising eyebrowsWut? Was it not a Spanish mission, from the time of the Spanish Empire? Were the ghosts not supposed to be Mexican? What else would they be speaking? I don't think they were supposed to be native Americans.
>>152455383>Wut? Was it not a Spanish mission, from the time of the Spanish Empire?Anon, who do you think these Missions were meant to convert to Catholicism and speaking Spanish to begin with?
>>152455391But who settled and populated the mission towns that grew up around them? Other Spanish speakers from other parts of the Spanish Empire. The Spanish Empire wasn't just a handful of Spanish missionaries with majority native populations.
>>152455383>don't think they were supposed to be native Americans.People (including critics) argued there's some leeway you can make by saying the ghosts were of actual Spaniards (but if so, why would they celebrate Dia De Los Muertos) and converts who DIDN'T die horribly but when you remember Missions are full of a shit ton of dead Natives who were tortured it kind of leaves an unintentional elephant in the room like how nobody shuts up how the historical story of Pocahontas is messed up (which to be fair, is on Katzenberg meddling the film making it even more inaccurate) when people bring the movie up
>>152455414>but if so, why would they celebrate Dia De Los MuertosWhy do Mexicans celebrate it today? Because Latin American Catholicism is essentially a form of syncretism. So is European Christianity for that matter, with festivals timed to coincide with existing ones and incorporating older traditions, Christmas, Pentecost and All Hallow's Eve are Christian holidays, but Christmas trees, Maypoles and Jack o' lanterns are not Christian traditions. Dia De Los Muertos is basically the same thing.>>152455439>Most of the people buried here were from MexicoAnd most Mexicans by the 19th Century were Catholic, Spanish speaking Mestizos. The ghosts are depicted as being the characters' fairly recent ancestors, (a grandma and uncle iirc) not 16th Century native inhabitants of what is today Mexico who were massacred by conquistadors. I think people who take issue with this have a pretty tenuous grasp of history and are just looking for something to be mad about.
Good morning, OP here. I should start the storytime around noon, about 7-8 hours from now. Be there!
>>152449572>no father>kid sitting in front>food everywhereDo American families really?
>>152457427Did she call him a nigger or what
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