Bump if you're reading.
>>152454575That's no shirt that would have its text that close to the collar. I'm offended with how much they wanted to slam that in.
>>152454575Saw this in another thread... kinda a silly looking panel. All in all, nothing really happened in this issue, but it's what I expected. Kinda a flat ending to the MJ/Masque rivalry.On to Death Spiral. (Also a bump, thanks for storytiming.)
>>152454506Should've been She-Venom.
AIM continues to be the best part of this
>>152454575ENTER CHADDIE AND GODNAGE this sucked, the symbiote is written like shit. The entire gimmick was a waste of time.
Bueller?
>>152454945I think OP got overzealous and Black Cat/Torn aren't out yet... so we'll have to wait.
>>152454446Should've been Carol
>>152454462how the fuck does masque go from landing on top of her to punching her into the distancefucking comics action so goddamned bad
I'm here for Spider-man torn.What a disappointment. but I gotta see how they ended it.
Larsen is a terrible writer
>no PaulAutomatic 0/10.
Well this was shit. It's always shit but I thought they maybe could end the fight in a slightly less shit than usual way
>>152455199Wait till you read Noir
>>152454482>we can't make webs now!>>152454502>>152454506>made webs btwThe physics lessons are weird too, because they're not very bright ideas. Like talking about sending electrical impulses down your arms to your the muscles on your metacarpals to tickle your nuts.>>152454575Fuuuuuuuuck youuuuuu.
>>152455428I didn't know they had kubo working on backgrounds this issue, nice.
>>152455454>>152455456Felicia being a lesbian again. Color me shocked.
I still do not care for quirk chungus black cat
>>152455489Philistine here, what's with all the panels?
>>152455438>>152455437She never had any career though, this plot is a waste already.
And that's it. If you liked these, support your LCS or whatever.
>>152455523Is the implication she's already hooking up with a new guy the instant she gets to Germany? This editorial staff, I swear...
>>152455475Where's Flash?
Is torn canon or is it just a "What if" situation? Haven't really been keeping up with Spider-Man stuff lately.
>>152455438What a dumb reason.
>>152455517 >>152455529 jesus, that was some shitty dramaand some still wonder why she'll never be the one for peter
Wow........... I'm a fool for thinking Torn was worth my time. I'm a fool for thinking Spider-man's worth my time.
>>152454516MJ is okay with killing villains?
>>152455408this cant be real
>>152455551And if I didn't like these?
>>152455408Felicia wants that MJenom tongue inside her
>>152455469Its called bisexual you autistic moron
>>152455787Still not pairing her with dudes ever, anon who can't clearly see the pattern laid out in front of him.
>>152454446>>152454575>>152455468>>152455543So that's 3 for 3 in the dud department, huh.
>>152454555and Masque teleports to the Iron Man book
>>152454451sure
>>152454568Why did Gomez trace that Great Gatsby meme for the final panel?
>>152455417Why does that pigeon have a hard hat on?
>>152455971Seriously. Black Cat was the "best" of them, and even still it was a huge disappointment from what I was hoping. It seems like G Willow Wilson either isn't interested in, or allowed to have, her characters discuss relevant things going on in the Spider-books. Like, you'd think Felicia would have a whole other host of questions... how long has it it been, does Peter know, does Paul know? Oh, wow you dumped Paul, wanna talk about that?Instead it's just her quickly moving on to some weird bad audition tape that's somehow in the Negative Zone if all places? And she quickly knows MJ can turn into a submarine, even though that's never been a past power set besides ANV?I can't tell if it's bad writing or being hamstrung by editorial. For all of my complaints about GWW's Poison Ivy, she's more of an adept writer in that title than this, I'd thought.
>>152455449Why the DKSA reference?
>>1524555233 comics all make Mary Jane look shitty for various reasons. YIKES. if the intention was to make her look terrible, missionary accomplished.
>>152454462Madame Masque cares about bystanders?
>>152455437>>152455438this entire Black Cat run is so....
>>152455523Bruh. What's up with the editorial?
>>152455523>>152455529I thought this was supposed to be a different take on this period of time. If they dislike Mary jane so much, STOP WRITING HER. They are going out of thier way to make her look bad. Its the same pattern since one more day. WE GET IT! YOU THINK SHE IS A WHORE! If they never get married, she never actually grows past any of this. Stop dragging her, and us, through the mud and just write her out of book. Every book. I fucking hate the people making these books.
>>152455523>>152455529I don't get why people are so upset about this. It's very in character for her to run away when things get serious between her and Peter.It literally gets to a point where she started dating Flash while he thought her and Peter were on the outs and then they both call her out for being a shitty person.
>>152454594The whole thing is flat. It is like they skipped ahead multiple steps in trying to copy Kate Bishop without MJ doing the work to justify it by binding and stripping her or something.
>>152454485I refuse to believe there’s a single statue still standing in New York City of anyone even remotely as white as Chester A Arthur.
>>152456141Why do we need to see all of this again? Can she not just go to germany? Why does thier need to be another dude involved. Why do i need to see her "Run away from her problems", again. Especially, when we know with current editorial she is never growing out of it. I was expecting a different take. Also, she never really dated flash and was just using him to make peter jealous, which is also fucked up. She even told peter to call her in front of flash. Sheesh. Is this panel len wein?
>>152456253I mean sure, a different take would've been nice but it would also mess with continuity a bit more and people were already upset about the kiss. I really wish this mini took place after Gwen's death and was a short purview into their life before she went to LA or Florida. And yeah, it's from 165 during Wein's run.
Marvel needs to do what DC did and fire all of the OMD editorial and brevoort, because the X-men comics are shit too
>>152455571It's "canon" but will never be brought up again. Unless JMS decides to bring back the monster lady or something in some other book down the line at least
>>152455860she was literally lusting after daredevil earlier in the run. Anon who can't clearly read.
>>152456000I don't think Wilson actually knows anything about Felicia
>>152456370Yeah I think that's exactly why Marvel wanted her on the book. She knows 0 about the character other than being Marvel's Catwoman and figured she would be fresh eyes for a new and different take.
>>152456350Brevoort is stuck to marvel comics, the only way you get rid of him is killing him.
>>152456413>Brevoort is stuck to marvel comicsWhy? Does he know someone that know someone?
>>152456368She vaguely calls him handsome. No physical contact or anything. That's the best "bisexuality" we're going to get from Felicia from now on. No romantic connections with men, just her asking women out, flirting with women, and fucking them, like she did just one issue ago. >>152456370>>152456392I pretty much agree with you both. Marvel saw "premiere queer writer" and threw her on the book to keep pushing Felicia with women, figuring it'd be good enough and she'd work it out to be entertaining. It's not the worst book in the world, but it's certainly not pushing BC to new heights.
Spider-Man comics are dogshit lmao
>>152456141I mean sure, but that just make Torn even more inconsequential.
>>152455456I remember seeing this page posted as a preview before it was coloured, does anyone have it? Because it looked much better than this
>>152456618Have been for decades
>>152455523So, did she actually book a Modeling gig in Germany? Or is she just skipping town to fuck some other dude?
Fire fucking everyone
>>152455437>Gets told there's a problem only she can fix>First thought is that Peter might be in trouble and needs her helpCan editorial just let them be together permanently and kick MJ and all the nobodies to the curb.
>>152456671Yeah she got, it is tied to her coming back later in the old comics prior to gwen's "death" where her modelling career went to a halt.While peter went full dickhead with everyone after george's "death" and norman was taunting him as the goblin, plus he and gwen already going through a nasty relationship problem related to her going to europe to live there.In fact, if we go by timeline, she comes back 2 months later because she couldn't stay away from peter, but when she returns, peter is a dickhead blaming himself for everything and later that we have the bridge incident.But since spider gwen retconned everything, their deaths ended up being a witness protection card they are going to pull later, for the ire of the schizo
>>152454446Gómez is kicking ass on this title. It's nice to see.
>>152456683>wanting modern felicia to cuck peter with a womanFelicia loves spider-man not both, she is literally Selina Kyle by now.
>>152456683>Gets told there's a problem only she can fixA contrivance. Also, she only brings up Peter when MJ is around and there are no recent developments mentioned. This writer has no idea what she is doing.
>>152456746My point is she she never had a modeling gig and in fact, skipped town to be with another man.
>>152456804Yeah, Felicia hasn't had a second thought about Peter, instead wanting to drown herself in pussy, despite seeing the dude beaten into oblivion and being unsure if he's alive or not (per the Black Cat books, obviously Ben told her about Peter being alive somewhere in ASM, but we have no reason to believe she knows that here, since she told MJ she doesn't know what's up with Peter as of two issues ago). She gives next to zero shits about Peter in this book.
>>152456907Anon... it was a modeling gig, is even a old canon lore.But she couldn't stop thinking about peter, and when she came back she found a very spiteful and bitter peter who was close of becoming spider-man 24/7 like batman because of the shit in his life.it was this peter that led to george and gwen's "death" and it toom Mary Jane staying with him to heal him back, because as JMS put, she understood him and she was there when he needed someone at most.The thing is that the OMD gang needs to be purged out of the comic industry for good
>>152456984looks like she is meeting another man in the the panel. Not a modeling gig in sight.
>>152456984can you please provide the issue number where she leaves for germany and the issue she comes back
>>152456996Yeah, accepting flowers from a guy and then immediately hopping in his convertible Porsche or whatever in the front seat looks a lot less like a "modeling gig" and more like "some guy invited me to fuck him and maybe take a few pictures."Whether or not it's what they intended, it sure can look that way.
>Gwenschizo has awakenwell it was good while it lasted
>Meets contact on a tarmac to go to modeling gig>This is MJ propositioning herselfSome of you make up wild stuff to keep the victim complex going
>>152457067Editorial or JMS are clearly trying saying something. why would you put it in the art otherwise. I dont like it, i'm just seeing what I see.
>>152457062>>152457067I don't think Gwenschizo is here or we're trying to be victims, we know how spiteful current editorial is, and how much they hate MJ.
>>152454516tony?that was fast
>>152454555WHITNEY PLEASE FLEX YOUR LITTLE FINGER IN MY ASSgotdamn what a body
>>152457087Both sides of this argument are retarded because everyone involved is struggling to care even one iota about shit that has been dead for decades, while the BND crew puppet this corpse of a franchise to hustle retards and autists out of their time and money.
>>152455460Holy tits.
>>152456187It has a Wikipedia page for some reason.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Chester_A._Arthur
>>152455478Oh good, more of Straczynski's ooc fanfiction
>>152455529>>152455523She's always such an pretentious imbecile
>>152455523They should do a real plot twist like having Lynda Locke show up out of nowhere, mog MJ by being her but better and i don't know, beat up BC and arrest her or something like that.
>>152455571Straczynski would like it to be canon, but no one will remember it, it doesn't actually fit or make sense with the timeline or where the characters were at that time. In the end, it's just Straczynski jerking off.
>>152457598It would be funny seeing Lynda date Peter and MJ wonders where the doppelganger came from
Jorden White interview about recent Venom issue>https://aiptcomics.com/2026/02/11/venom-unleashed-16-jordan-d-white/
>>152457670She is a FBI Agent so she will figure out who Pete is eventually, the MJ meeting would be almost as funny as the Black Cat meeting.....'Uh, Pete? Whose is the really hot girl who looks like me but 10 years younger with Spider Woman's ass and tits, why does she have such an awesome Iron Spider suit and why is she handcuffing Felicia to a radiator?'
>>152454482>Don't thank me, thank physicsTotally something MJ would say.
>>152455445ohh baby
>>152456187They don't build too many NEW statues for white people, but unproblematic white people are allowed to keep their old statues because nobody cares, especially in a place like Central Park. Chester A. Arthur is only really known for being assassinated, so nobody has any real reason to vandalize his statue or protest to get it taken down.
>>152455500How many people know Pete is spidey at this point
>>152454559>>152454568I should have known that Ewing wouldn't kill off Forson and Monica Rapaccini, they're AIM's only iconic characters that aren't MODOK. I am surprised that even the literally who guy made it though.It's a good way to set up Williamson's Iron Man run with Madame Masque in charge of AIM while still leaving the door open for previous AIM leaders to come back later.
>>152455445It will end up being a sex tape of her and someone other than peter. Anything to make mj look like a whore.
>>152457786>Chester A. Arthur is only really known for being assassinatedI think you're thinking of Garfield.
>>152455456>Mary Jane is jealousIn b4 MJ and Felicia are official.
>>152457810"My sources said that after that gang business in New York, Madame Masque tag-teamed with the high council for a new division."The exact line explaining it from Iron Man #1. That does not line up with how she is fake highest position according to this comic. In fact, you could cut all of All-New Venom A.I.M. out and it would flow better to that state.
ANV was fillery, torn was consitent, it was very clear MJ was going to leave, i dislike having her already having a sucessful modeling career, but it fits with what the story's doing to justify her and peter not becoming a thing at this point in time, and hte conclusion to the villain stuff was good. Black cat was whatever>>152457087Its how models are recieved man
>>152457793JJ, BC, FF4, Stark, Flash, Strange, Osborne, Shortstack, entire spider family, DD, probably a bunch more. Before the motion comic was cancelled it was pretty clear Lynda Locke was going to figure it out soon, she is a FBI agent with a crush on Spider Man and did a background check on Peter before their first date.
>>152457891How many trips do you have?
>>152455638Almost as if the whole point with MJ is that sh egrows to be the one, which is what JMS did too
>>152457865Oh yeah, I am. Actually I genuinely can't remember a single thing about Arthur. Google tells me he was a staunch abolitionist, which is presumably why he has a statue.
>>152457958Three.>>152457949The new avengers (wolverine, cap, both jessicas, luke, danny) all do too. MJ also still remembers. As does jackal
>>152457810>Appear earlier than MODOK>Go through long periods of being deactivated or under the control of someone else >Fail repeatedly to the same general problems of limited memory for adaptation or being unable to have the technique/fighting spirit/creativity of humans, even though there are plenty of other examples of robotic characters doing just that in the world>Get turned into a useless suit >The guy who only exists just so you could impersonate him when you return home (and his "actually existed" status is confirmed through another problem and him having a sister) gets to survive easily and is on par with the 21st century heads>Don't even count as an iconic AIM characterThe absolute state of Super-Adaptoid
>>152457891Any new comms?
>JMS even mogs bndfags when writing mj and peter breaking up by showing she caresHoly
>>152454575Is it that hard to draw clothes
blog is done eh
>>152454582It’s really funny knowing that Pete and Norman had a more emotional reunion than Pete and MJ will
>>152458020The Super-Adaptoid would probably see more use if Ultron didn't exist.
>>152454482Since when is Mary-Jane a physicist?
>>152458040Ye have some
Who are we predicting Torment is? I'm thinking it'll be Norman and 1000 will be his death issue.
>>152458165Its meant to be that she picked it up from peter
>>152454555look at those TITS
>>152458180Cletus, probably.
>>152458139It is supposed to be bi-weekly going forward, but I don't know why I bother writing in. Nothing will get fixed and questions will get filtered through half-assed PR hype to avoid answering anything useful.
>>152457891>Its how models are recieved manHow the hell would anyone know that, why even put it in the Book. it shows her recieving them with a guilty look in her eye balls. she is skipping town to fuck another dude. theres no evedince i can see that she is even in Germany
>>152458165>The symbiote last bonded with Peter so it probably has a new database of stuff to pull from much like spider powers
>>152458283>it shows her recieving them with a guilty look in her eye balls.Anon, she does feel guilty. She tried to force a situation only to look back and see she needed some space to clear her head and ran away. This is a consistent theme with MJ during that time.
>>152458283Its normal for job stuff like that to come with a ride and flowers. She's in an airport man, as she's talking about that. I think its pretty dense. She has a guilty look because she left peter to try and help him (and to avoid her biggest fear). Like one's a lot more ochesive than the other lmao. Its literally even a servicehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DS7YnyYCGWe/
>>152457969Don't forget every telepathic X-Man he has ever met and Swarm. Since she can sense him and Wade i assume Itsy Bitsy would know instantly if she met him as Parker. Or are we trying to forget that Peter is a deadbeat dad by way of Deadpool whose daughter wants double team rough incest sex with her two daddies?
>>152458165>>152458304MJ might actually be better than Peter, think of all the emulations options MJ offers from being Jackpot.
>>152455523Mary WHORE
>>152458179Ugh. That design. Much rather prefer OC or something else than that...ANV and this are eyesores.
>>152458180Am I retarded or isn't it obvious it's that one no name guy right? I mean Marvel tosses in red herrings so it would be cletus if not him but I dunno Marvel is so lazy and faggoty, I just expect complete apathy.
>>152458408It's not Brian
>>152458308It was also her MO to date other men and throw it in Peters face. the Party girl stuff was before Gwen died. Then After things got heavy with Pete she pulled away again. And, again, her MO was using other Dudes to "Run Away"did she ever go to Germany for a modeling gig in the OG continuity?The marriage made all of this water under the bridge as they both grew up a little. But in the Post OMD continuity all of this just another punch in the gut because there is no resolution or the crossing of a threshold. Another example of "Your life is to crazy because of Spider-Man".
I'm calling it now, by June it will either be MJ x Felicia together or at least a quick hook up.They keep throwing these meaningless hook ups in, but watch them totally hook up MJ and Felicia as love... I wouldn't mind it because it would still give her some sort of a happy ending for 2 of Peter's lovers.
>>152458645It's not going to happen but at this point in the comics they're the healthiest option relationship wise
>>152458388The venom spider one or spider-carnage>>152458314Yeah.Kelly did, but its his oc
>>152454446variant and incentive covers for this issue:Venom #254 David Nakayama Color Block Red VariantVenom #254 Jhony Caballero VariantVenom #254 1:25 Leinil Francis Yu VariantVenom #254 1:50 David Nakayama Color Block Red Virgin Variant
>>152458683>>152458645Since she was mentioned it could be a temporary thing so they can have room to bring Webhead to print, editorial went out of their way to make her 616 canon. It got cancelled mostly because there was too much stuff going on to maintain continuity but the character design is great and it's nice having a love interest that doesn't have baggage.
And next issues variant covers
>>152455408black cat covers for this issuesBlack Cat #7 Gleb Melnikov VariantBlack Cat #7 Ivan Talavera VariantBlack Cat #7 Kaare Andrews Connecting VariantBlack Cat #7 1:25 Elizabeth Torque VariantBlack Cat #7 1:50 Adam Hughes Virgin VariantBlack Cat #7 1:100 Ivan Talavera Virgin VariantBlack Cat #7 The Comic Mint / KRS Comics Gerald Parel Variant
>>152455475just two covers for this miniseries.
and black cat next issues covers:Black Cat #8 Kaare Andrews Connecting VariantBlack Cat #8 Marguerite Sauvage Doom Homage VariantBlack Cat #8 Nicoletta Baldari VariantBlack Cat #8 1:25 Stephanie Hans VariantBlack Cat #9 Kris Anka Black Cat VariantBlack Cat #9 Pere Pérez Ultimate Farewell Black Cat #9 1:25 Betsy Cola Variant1:25 Betsy Cola VariantBlack Cat #9 1:50 Kris Anka Black Cat Virgin Variant
>>152458513It really wasnt, unles you count wolfman, which was after, its very clearly a modelling gig, you have to be dense to argue the opposite ngl. She wasnt a model untill the defalco era, but this was setup in a prior issue, cause while JMS is a great writer, he's not great with continuity, never has been>>152458883Love kaare andrews
>>152458724The Venom Spider one. Ben Reilly Spider-Carnage is based. But yeah this new one they are trying to force is utter garbage. Yeah I know it's somewhat slightly the same but idgaf. Plus MJ's red hair blends well with black and white. Her hair matches the tongue and I am sad she hasn't gotten a design as good as Gwenom or an even better one. Because Marvel are massively petty troglodytes.
>>152459055You mean that's not Chloe doing the cover? Swear they drew something 1:1 to that
>>152459074>Love kaare andrewsSame here anon
>>152459207>Sorry Pete, we're Venom's girls now
>>152456141These people don’t read ASM, they’re here from shitter and YouTube memes if they aren’t here from fucking /dbs/
>>152459076I do like the new spider-carnage design ngl.>>152459236To be totally fair, the past torn issues wrote a much more mature MJ, too mature honestly, and this book has a lot of continuity flubs when it comes to characterization. But MJ leaving for a job is perfectly in character. If anything the letter is too mature, excellenty written (and if you view this as its own conitnuity not an issue at all)
>>152455529>>152459074She wasnt Picked up by a "driver" anon. She is sitting shotgun, not in the back, this isnt a car service. There is no photo shoot in Germany.Only the paranoid survive.
>>152459385Its literally setup prior, and you do know smaller cars do that. There's nothing pointing to that in the issue itself. Its literally setup prior anon.
>>152457810BRING BACK SUPERIA YOU COWARDS
>>152459475She talks about modeling acting in the first issue. I dont remember seeing anything about germany. Given her history is not unreasonable to assume she is fucking the Photographer.
>>152459810women aren’t all whores like your mother
>>152459810She talks about wanting to get more modeling opportunites, which this is, its pretty clear cut.
>>152459810Also what history? Given her history MJ flirts but doesnt actually do anything more with anyone, her worst fear is becoming a mom trapped in a loveless marriage like her sister and mom.
>>152455554
>>152458113I thought /co/ liked the painted on clothing look?
>>152454575hah
>>152460054How come sometimes Doctor Doom has brown eyes and other times he has blue eyes?
>>152459935>using the wolfman runMan. If only this was you know explained by the good writers as not geniune, if only. (And again, woflman was veyr much just doing character sabotage to pair peter back with betty)
>>152460054>DOOM is a better parent than Eddie I shouldn’t be surprised yet I fully expect his many many fuckups to be ignored by the next run >>152460063Doombots
>>152460079I see.
>>152460054...did they intentionally give the doom mask a wyatt earp mustache?
>>152459835My Mother and MJ>>152459849Why put the flowers in they way they did? it looks like she is meeting a lover not a car service!
>>152460130you’re really reaching here, just post the canon BND pages of her actually having sex with other men if you want to complain about this
>>152460130Cause it does happen with women and jobs where they want someonee, its not super common, but its literally a service you can buy anon.>>152460148Or complain about this being more classic mj than how JMS had been writing her so far, idk, weird thing to be hung up on.
>>152460066That's not Wolfman, it's from Conway back when Peter was losing his mind seeing the Gwen clone out in the street.
>>152454555>>152454559does every girl in this have big honkin tits?
>>152460382That is the main selling point since the plot is much worse than the sum of the parts and the fights aren't well choreographed.
>>152460382Monica gave birth. She had a bunch of kids but I don’t remember if she had them all naturally.
>>152460468Thasanee/Carmila was natural, wasn't she? Said she had her in college with Bruce
>>152460156No, that editorial would have stepped in to add the flowers at the end. how many people are going to pick up on the idea that drivers/service offering flowers in an airport. they are going to associate the flowers with somekind of romantic intent.
The fans have spoken they make it quite clear that don't want MJ to be with peter.
>>152460603If it gets her away from the symbiote and ends this trash run I'm fine with her being with Peter.
I've been reading Iron Man and at the point I've still got at least another year of comics to get through before the point other people say Iron Man stops being in freefall. I know I recognized the name Ty Stone from Spider-Man and holy fuck, this guy completely jumped ship looking at his appearances. Actually he could be slotted into in this story with the main reason why not being "he sucks".
>>152460633fuck off
>>152460603>>152460615>>152460636those people are as much fans as you are. I.e, not at all. Fuck off polish faggot
>>152460646No. It isn't important enough to make a new thread.
>>152460655Oh and I suppose you think all those comments were made AI right? get real man those were made by real people.
>>152460603>>152460615>>152460636I like that some people at least understand its editorial and writers forcing this nonsense.
The thing about redeeming Norman is: the longer it goes on as status-quo, the more inevitable a set-up for "omg Norman you betrayed me by going back to being evil!! Who could have ever predicted this??" becomes.They're bad-writing Norman towards his death. I feel like they're going to kill him off eventually.
>>152460709People who don’t read ASM or Venom, and never will, like you. Whose opinions don’t matter at all.
>>152460754Wells baked that into the status quo, Peter said he always knew Norman would turn. Spider-Versity is supposedly built on the premise that the spider-family will one day need to fight the Goblin again. Peter being incapacitated might actually make it an interesting story when it comes around
>>152460636>>152460615>>152460603These are You Tube comment. like maybe 30?
>>152460756Save yoy breath asshole it's not doing you any good you fanbase had gone to shit
>>15246078458 to be more accurate
>>152460794if you don’t read spider-man, why are you here?
>>152460784>>152460813Every single one of them would defend Miles and Gwen leeching off of Peter btw
>>152460830Newsflash less and less people are reading spider-man each day. Soon nobody will read it period.
>>152460485She's been memoryholed for so long I'm not sure she's even canon now.
>>152460885Good. Venom can take over.
>>152460930Nobody will soon rea venom either.
>>152460928A character that only used her name was in the recent Spider-Man cartoon.
>>152460928She was in The Initiative and the characters from that make scattered appearances here and there.
>>152454446Always a pleasure hearing from Jordan White. What a joker!
>>152460885t b h that's a good thing. ASM hasn't been worth reading since OMD/BNDMarvel in the hotseat means they're going to have to make sweeping changesor just coast off disney money and do nothing
>>152460521Its literally a thing that you can pay for. I think most people associate it with that. I dont see anyone outside of here thinking that
>>152460930After Carol bonds with the symbiote again.
>>152461251At best she is going to get that 90s species that were were "Symbiotes, but worse".
>>152454575>Goddamn it I JUST got off of a shitty team upEddie looks so tired of this shit
>>152455529ok she's a retard>>152455523>already taking cocklmao
>>152461481this comic isn’t about your brown sisters, paco
>>152461163Why do I always think this guy's name is Devin White? Whatever. Point is, this shit is never cute or entertaining or funny. It only amuses people who are brainwashed by Marvel into thinking fans are satan.>>152459277It looks worse than Ben's sleek and memorable design.But whatever. One of these days I'll find my own place and be able to buy shit like commissions and get my own She-VenoMJ kino.
>>152455437Who could have guessed? /sthe one that carries Peter in her heart is.... Felicia. This clarifies things.
>>152455437I know the meta reason is editorial, but what will be the in-universe reason for why Felicia never told MJ about Ben playing make believe?
>>152461763they likely won't touch on it. it was literally just editorial being retarded so Willow didn't know how detailed to make the conversation.
>>152461809>>152461848>>152461866I love that Gwen Stacy is dead, never coming back, and everyone knows her as Spider-Gwen who dates Miles.
>>152455420They couldn't put or on the toilet?
>>152461888why do you want to see Felicia taking a shit
>>152461882Given how much they have destroyed MJ as a character I am pretty sure Gwen will soon be back most likely in asm 1000 not a shitpost anon
>>152455431Didn't Peter save her ass during venom war? Was Wilson instructed to not have MJ bring up peter at all.
>>152461942I like watching beautiful ladies pee and poop. Its a vulnerable position.
>>152461955I haven’t been reading Black Cat but the social media influencer thing makes me assume it’s a “world outside your window” book, and mentioning how zombie symbiotes attacked when Eddie Brock crashed a wrestling tournament on live TV kind of goes against that
>>152461763My assumption is that this conversation (and the current adventure) happens after ASM #9 but before ASM #11. So Felicia doesn't know yet, and MJ only knows "Peter" has completely dismissed her after she revealed she's bonded to Venom.
>>152457960More like she'll NEVER be the one despite how much her tards scream about it with their "mint" gooed copies from the 70s.
>>152462650Anon, she's the one objectively, she's the love intrest for 30 out of 60 years of publication, longer than anyone else. Was married for 20.
I don't know if it's just because I'm more tuned in to the Marvel online spaces than to DC, but I've got the impression Marvel's editorial offices are outright hostile to their readership in a way that's not paralleled by any other comic book publishing house.
>>152462952That's because they are even more incompetent than any other place and have more than any other place fags who failed upwards because they all got in when the company was bankrupt, were interns who never had any real storytelling experience, and have the greatest visibility than any other place because of market share created by people who cared back then. All they know how to do is just hire 3rd worlders or desperate people, pay them shit, threaten them, threaten fans, and run a campaign of deflect and deny which is about all they are good at. They hide behind retards/"fans" who can't distinguish reality from fiction.
>>152462952Sounds about right.
>>152455140it could also be a throw
I miss Spider-Boy. That was Spidey stuff that was, damn it, consistently fun. And relatively low on the soap opera shit that all the main books need injected into their pages every issue. Bailey would never have had a "heart to heart" with MJ.
>>152463701Bailey isn't dating MJ and wasn't put into a cuck chair and told to like it
>>152454559Shouldn't they have at least waited until after Death Spiral to reveal this? They undercut the main villain of the current Iron Man story before it even starts properly.
>>152454446Is MJ among the shittiest Venoms there are, including McGargan and random retard that got himselff killed for buing the suit
>>152463892At least Gargan was a credible Venom and got the symbiote to Carol; I don't buy for a second MJ will ever be a Lethal Protector.
>>152454482DIARRHEA BLAST
>>152463701What was that Slott? I didn't hear you.
>>152454520>>152454525>>152454549>>152454555>>152454559>>152454568booba
Spectacular Spider-Man Brand New Day is an Armageddon tie in with Theresa returning..no MJ but is mentioned by Peter and plans to have her finally meet Peter's "sister" at some point
>>152462033>>152462046What's got the Polish guy so angry this time? What did you guys do to him?
>>152464782Gay as fuck Aunt May still hasn’t met her
>>152454446
whoa
>>152456671She's going to film porno. Her big debut.Although she already did amateur shit in the past and that would ruin the marketing campaign thus >>152455438
Can we have more Madame Masque and Monica Rappaccini? I like them.
>>152465694Retarded...
Torn was terribly boring, the characterization made it obvious the most JMS read were wikis, and I'm glad it"s fucking over.
>>152454482>>152454485>>152454539have to respect this book for delivering solid Cartoon Venom Shenanigans issue after issue.
>>152465937I want to have sex with them
>>152463892I mean, she's a purely heroic one, by design. Gargan and fortunato were supposed to be villanous ones. I will come to bat for gargvenom being a good concept with some solid execution sometimes, even if he became a lackey for norman too often. Fortunato is an okay one off, but could have been more
>>152466299One of them is a 40 year old who stopped functioning as a human like a decade ago and the other would probably poison you.
Hey Marvel,STOP TRYING TO MAKE MARY JANE RELEVANT.If you were serious about doing so, than erase One More Day from the canon.
>>152456117>I thought this was supposed to be a different take on this period of time>I’ve always preferred pre-modernist take on MJ that circles Peter with the steady purpose of someone who’s decided personal hang‑ups are best left in storage and out of the home she made with Peter. JMS, to his credit, spent the opening chapters polishing Peter's love interest down until she resembled a very streamlined idea of a woman. Naturally, I was delighted by this blatant disregard of canon, right up until the last chapter insisted on dragging a few of her old flaws back into the light. She’s at her best when she’s tucked away like an attic wife, endlessly supportive, sensually ornamental, and blissfully uncomplicated.>ftfy
>>152466471Desu, she's never been written like that, all the best mj writers make her both supportive and complex, see JMS, JMD. Even Current usm for all its critiques doesnt do that.
>>152466545Hate to disagree but I’ve read issues where she’s written that way. That said, yeah, her best moments come when she’s supportive and still a full person. You can’t get there by erasing who she was or you've got less than who she is.
>>152466674I am struggling to think of a run where that happened, other than like cameos in other books desu.
>>152463892>>152464117She-Venomanon here. If I wrote my She-VenoMJ arc where it is an MJ that has dealt with a villainous symbiote with Eddie as its prior host, I'd have it be a situation where they bond to protect each other rather getting forcibly stuck. They get attacked by a Spider-Man villain and MJ gets bonded and She-Venoms out to a large form. They're both uncomfortable and disturbed. MJ tries at one point to use sound but it hurts so much she can't get it off. She then gets Petes help but a strong instinct comes on that causes MJ and the symbiote to get too clingy and disgusted by all their mixed emotions which means they have to keep somewhat of a distance while Peter teaches MJ some tips on webswinging. MJ already has experience fighting addiction and strong emotions so Peter basically helps with the multi-tasking and fighting aspect. The arc revolves around MJ's burgeoning feelings of motherhood and also owning up to running away from stuff as she wants things to be simple and one at a time when it really requires a high level of multi-tasking and meticulous planning. Peter by this point would have grown and planned his own life out in order to make time for MJ. The major villain would be another version of the Crime Master who is completely anonymous again and is also meticulous about their own activities and gang structure. Basically this one has all the responsibility and none of it as he (or she) is the leader while still having the nuclear option of burning it all and running while the others are left in the dust and the master is upfront about that and this is agreed upon in the beginning.So yeah an arc where MJ could be more heroic but also deal with more nuance with having to make tough decisions.Debating whether I should make a thread this weekend. I don't think I have the time this weekend as I've been hanging on 4chan less. But if anons have their own image folders of She-Venom and contribute I might post one in like a day.
>>152467252Why are people so obsessed with fanfics?Also it's kinda absurd how obsessed you are with just the horny version of this character and paint it like you give a fuck besides gooning.
>>152467427They're mentally retarded.
>>152454446Anybody else gets the feeling they're setting up Felicia as the "real" partner for Peter while the others keep making horrible choices?
>>152468528Please stop being delusional.
>>152468528They have in recent recent years gone out of thier way to make MJ a detestable character. So maybe?
>>152466674They erased who she is when they nixed the marriage. Also you can have her "Run Away" with out running into the arms of another man.
>>152467427>why are people so obsessed with fanfics?Cause many people don't have confidence in writing so they first use defined charactere to get a feel for writing in a voice different from their own. Also superhero comics offer more flexibility in coming up with the type of arcs and plot changes that are interesting when considering alternate paths.>obsessedI've been posting less but eh whatever, I don't care if you believe me or not.>give a fuck besides gooningYeah well where do you think we are? Also I wasn't saying I'm superior or my ideas are superior to anyone else. I've just been posting. That's all.
>>152469275Well maybe scratch a bit of that last part out as MJ as She-Venom is objectively superior to ANV as she is a female coded character and it would be much more interesting in other ways than just fap material while remaining in character and in spirit to earlier Spider-Man eras.
>>152467427>Why are people so obsessed with fanfics?These days they're far better written than what comes out of Marvel.God bless Zarius for trying to make sense of Wells' run.
>>152463172throws don't really make a krak sound and show the hand balled into a fist afterwards. most of the time
>>152454539Hey, I had a Spider-Man 3 Venom toy that twisted around on its waist. And I guess I eventually spun it around enough times to break it and get it stuck with its torso on backwards similar to this.
>>152461955I mean she could have done a time progression panel of her explaining like everything...
>>152463892the main problem with MJ Venom is they play it too safe because they want her character to be pure and not a killer. I mean newest issue she did throw a threat but ultimately they won't let her cross the line.
>>152455420Sloth_Baby is actually Kamala Khan. So this is actually funny.
>>152469811>MJ has been having this conversation with everyoneHas she?
>>152469911maybe Flash and "Peter" but that was about it.I would have figured Black Cat would have been a big one cuz she knows it all.
>>152460382Carlos Gomez is a T&A man.
Why is Venom constantly forgetting their own abilities?
>>152469981Dependent on the host to do the thinking.
>>152469981writers. Its like they want to illustrate MJ as the driver.
>>152469963He would be but I'm revoking that shit because of his agreement to do ANV and getting forced by Marvel to delete his nsfw shit.>>152469832That's not the issue. They are focusing on the wrong things and comics basically are too slow and editors too focused on the illusion of change. Yeah I guess MJ murdering someone would create massive change but that's OOC and too dark considering everything else. She should be more awkward with the symbiote and the symbiote shouldn't just be 100 percent competent with MJ not knowing anything. There was no growth or development, it's all been talking and talking about plot beats about plot elements that have no weight and writers like wilson who think because everyone else is doing something, that she can't create a unique interaction maybe along the same lines but colored by the characters rather than the plot. If Black Cat saw She-Venom I'd expect a lot more to happen or Venom in general. But nah it's just generic concern and quips.
>>152465035spamming the board and saying total nonsense does not change the fact tha your fanbase is cooke spider-man fans face facts it's over.
>>152455316>made webs btwYes, she just had to wait a while.
>>152470325lol the irony
>>152454446>Peter wakes up from a fever dream in a... hospital room? No, the asylum. He had the dream where he was spider man again. A product of his psychotic break after a life of loss. Uncle Ben had been out late looking for peter when didnt come home after curfew. It was his fault. Then there was goerge, his mentor. then George's daughter, Gwen. Peter had loved her, it was his fault. Then Norman and later his son Harry, Peters best friend. When his parents and younger brothers came back into is life he lost them soon after. THEN, aunt may. He started to Crack a little, his wife Mary Jane trying to console him. Pick up the pieces. Then the one death the was one too many. She was the promise of a future. His daughter, dead moments after Mary Jane a given birth. He would have sold his soul to the devil to bring her back. Then his mind broke, the lie that was spider man cacooning him from reality. He made his way to the dining hall, and there they were in patient garb: Dr Banner, Captain Roger's, and Logan, short, swarthy and miserable. And the there was Josh, with his scared chin, claiming to be a titan named thanos, obsessed with death and designs to conquer the universe.
>>152470622Ann Nocenti what the fuck are you doing here
Does scorn take place in the Non OMD timline? Or OMD timeline.
>>152470880Do you mean Torn? It's a look back on their early college days.Interview Part 2https://aiptcomics.com/2026/02/12/joe-kelly-amazing-spider-man-part-2/
>>152470528So Venom ate a squirrel after hitting her with the statue while some cop cars were blown up?
>>152470622>As Peter finished his meal he watched has Rogers rubbed his hands, attempting to scrape something invisible off. His mind drifted to the draft, the war and Flash. Peter was promoted to intelligence, Flash was a grunt. Taken by follie and reduce to memory. Peter came home and join the NYPD. No more uncle bens he told himself, he became a Cop then years later a Detective. But it was on a foot patrol he answered the dispatch. the young man was high on hell itself and raving mad. He charged at peter and his partner. The tasers didnt stop him, and then the perp raised a knife; peter raised his gun. There were protests and marches for a young man named Miles Morales. Peter was cleared, no charges and in his dreams miles lived on, fueled by a guilt he could never quench.
>>152470982Right but is it in a timeline where they get married or not?
Kelly confirmed he's staying past 1K, abandon all hope for Peter/MJ stuff
>>152471279>Kelly's trapped on ASM because he can't get work in Hollywood anymore.Sad!
>>152471279
>>152454544>Illegal alien complains about an Illegal alien
>>152471287What did he even do during his Hollywood stint?All I can think of is that Cowboy Bebop show that everyone hated
>>152471435Well, his company did work on the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon but other than that I can't really think of anything.
>>152471279confirmed where?
>>152471695think he pulled that from the interview with him saying he has a few more arcs to do
>>152471435How I Met Your Mother, Detroiters, Ted Lasso. Cowboy Bebop wasn't his at all, that was Yost's.>>152471538Man of Action's biggest thing was Ben 10.
>>152454446Can marvel just confirm if Peter and MJ are getting back together? I dont give a shit about this book if they aren't. I dont like black cat. All I want is a decent peter and mj married book. That is what I want to read.
>>152471773>Ben 10.Meh.
>>152471782Kelly doesn't like MJ so don't hold your breath
>>152471797Why doesn't he like her?
>>152471845I don't get the impression Kelly dislikes MJ, he just prefers Peter having an open sexual relationship with Black Cat given all the stories he's written that feature that set-up. He wrote this page a few years ago, so it doesn't seem like he cares for OMD itself.
>>152471845Follows the Roger Stern school of her only being the side girl that shows up to cause problems and while they love each other very much that's all she should be
>>152455433>AND YOU DIDNT TELL ME?!...Catwoman said calmly. But hey, at least the artist got to reuse their own drawing, and half ass their job.
>>152471287What happened to Men of Action?
>>152472069They aren't getting work now that Hollywood isn't just accepting scripts willy nilly. That's why Kelly is slumming it on ASM.
>>152456802>Felicia loves spider-man not bothBro it is not 1985. Get your ass back to YT shorts.
Trash.
>>152472174honestly? yeah. wow. talk about awful.
>>152472174https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_nPp64OrBc
>>152472174>>152472187 Wait I just realized this is that twink Venom from the mindscape but with hair What the fuck, man
>>152472174Lynch Jordan White.
>>152472174Where are her boobs?
>>152472174>design not by GomezThat's it, I'm out, fuck this.
>>152472216They all are compiled to obey what Brevoort wants it.Brevoort and the OMDfags needs to die
>>152472226And Knull got a redesign as well for Queen in Black, but this time by StegmanDo we know the creative team for that event?
>>152472174>“MJ’s new look represents a ‘levelling up’ of sorts,” Ewing explained. “After her most serious challenge as Venom so far, it represents a reassessment of her relationship with the symbiote – just in time for an even bigger threat looming on the horizon.”So the Mindscape conversation was meant to lead into this at some point?
>>152472187Hasbro is already salivating.
>>152472174>First Supergirl is turned into a half strogg courtesy of her old nemesis ripping her arm leg and eye next month >>152471008>Now is thisBurn all of california to the torch of holy fire.>>152472257Brevoort obviously saw what was going on and intervened and we got thisI don't blame Ewing going to DC by now
>>152472174She-Venomanon back again.I am glad this design is shit and that she is She-Venom finally after all that time (still pissed it is taking until june). I am glad that it is shit only because it can now be safely memoryholed and won't define what She-Venom is or She-VenoMJ, especially with horrible gold color and association with this period in Spider-history and associated stories and probably won't appear in future games/tv or any other piece of media because of how bad it looks.Also no tits but hair, lol. So tired of MJ's hair being required to come out of the costume even if I really like her hair. It just doesn't fit Spider-Man costume design ideas.>>152472226Looks like space knight. Guess Flash is still gonna show up again at some point probably.
This awful Venom era has got to end after QiB, right? Right?
>>152472174No tits. What?
>>152472243>Do we know the creative team for that event?It's most likely Ewing and Coello again on the main series
>She's finally She-Venom so Marvel has that checked off>It's the most boring, uninspired and sauceless design>For a woman that has actually made hero costumes>That are still in use
>>152468528bros? i'm scared for 1000
>>152471279That's not up to Kelly though
>>152472590You retards have been hyping yourselves up over 1000 being the ultimate fix'itYou're going to get exactly what you deserve
>>152472608>>152472590Jesus
>>152470536Will see how hard you can laugh once they do revive the OG Gwen Stacy and she will back soon and very soon now. Not a clone or imposter bu the genuine article this is not a shitpost.
>>152472631Anon, they did this with spider-gwen Hers and George's death will be faked, she had her neck healed thanks to her spider powers, but the shock of discovering that peter was spider-man drove her into coma and she went to europe with george for years til Otto was dead
>>152472590Oh don't be I am sure it will go something like this norman becomes evil again but then is killed for good. in the final pages two shadowy figures emerge they are reveled to be Harrry Osborn and Gwen Stacy the end.
>>152472674makes no sense anon the OG gwen never had any spider powers in her life.
>>152472715til 65 gwen used the fucking cosmic cube to merge her earth with 616, courtesy of Loki.
>>152472611Has anybody been excited for 1000 being a fix, normanbro in those terms? I'm just betting on all the drones not collecting it anymore and the sales dropping off a cliff, which will be the real "fix" to spider-Man, when "muh sales" reaches a breaking point and these fags will never draw dimes by wearing the skin of our favorite characters ever again.I'm not expecting them to undo OMD.I'm expecting them to be destitute and forgotten while someone new takes over editorial.
>>152472759total trash hell it would make sense to revel she was a mutant.
>>152468528No. I don't see Felicia getting back with Peter ever. She can barely be bothered that he just got his shit pushed in by Hellgate and is missing. >>152472590I pretty much always assumed #1000 would be some kind of boring, safe matchup against the Sinister Six or something similar, with a bunch of backup stories. Less of the culmination of a storyline, and more of a "celebration of Spider-Man."
>>152472784>I'm just betting on all the drones not collecting it anymore and the sales dropping off a cliffThat would be best but you know they're going to have something to string along the retards.Already seen enough collectors saying they can't do it anymore after 1000 so hopefully there is a significant falloff.
>>152472944Have you seen them nowadays and how over and done with fans are? I mean yeah there will always be knuckledragging retards but I think the shoe will drop this time. It will sell well but the drop off for the next 4 to 10 issues will hopefully be immense and the company will feel it.And let's hope it goes lower and lower for longer and longer.Gwenschizo will pop in and say X-Men will be based and deserve high sales in comparison but that is cope if I have ever seen it. >>152472926Say what you will about JMS but 500 is better than the typical anniversary issue being a singular story that both reflects on old stuff but also delivering a new message derived from the origin's message and has JRJR in great form (maybe not best, but still good). The imagery is also top notch.
>>152458113That just means he was originally shirtless and it was colored in afterwards.
>>152468528that's the answer
>>152473068What's odd is that the neck of a shirt is definitively drawn in. Maybe it was supposed to have the end covered by the newspaper and the colorist fucked up.
>>152473133but the question is: is peter ready?
>>152473049Will it be the top selling book of 2026? I hope not. If it all goes south I can see the top brass at disney saying ""We had no idea there was a problem"
>>152473068No shit, anon. He hit the fill tool on the shirt layer then rendered on top of it.Look at the actual text on the shirt and how it was simply layered there with no work to compensate for his musculature.
>>152473133>>152473156Literally everything is filtered through the lens of manga.
>>152473149The neckline feels like it was added as well. I know Gomez posts his uncolored line art so I'd like to see what it originally looks like.
When are the USM previews coming out?
>>152473177Fuck off anon I'm saying it's the colorist and not Gomez. The post I was replying to sounded like the anon was blaming him for it and not someone else.
>>152472355Maybe I would guess Mortal Thor will end around then, since #800 of Thor should be around that time
>>152473333>You are lucky I am Norwegian and not Swedish, Knull.
>>152472926>I pretty much always assumed #1000 would be some kind of boring, safe matchup against the Sinister Six or something similar, with a bunch of backup stories. Less of the culmination of a storyline, and more of a "celebration of Spider-Man."Wells did that already with #900. I wouldn't put it past Lowe do to that again, but they have to be a little bit different.
Sinister Syndicate
>>152472174She should have golden hair and a braid.
>>152472226Will def do some comms with this
>>152472174The blurb says spider man and venom have unfinished business. I thought they left things on decent terms during venom war. And aside from ben what does mj have to be upset with peter for?
>>152473843We could've had it all
>Caroltranny is seething againJD White did good
>>152473897Nigga why...It looks awful....
>>152473897You can comm something better.
>>152473528Yeah, I went too simplistic with saying the Sinister Six, but I'm still assuming some kind of thing to get as many of Spidey's villains from over the years involved as a "hasn't this ride been fun" concept. Honestly, I kinda think they're going to use Queen in Black to pull MJ away from the book, making her the QiB as a convenient excuse for her to not be able to appear in ASM anymore. Maybe she'll appear to Peter and say she'll always love him, but she has to fuck off into outer space to be a cosmic being.I still don't see it being significant and franchise-altering.
>>152473991Don’t they fight when he gets back from space, only to stop because of whatever happens in death spiral? It’s going to be the Ben thing for her and “oh it’s too dangerous MJ fuck you venom you shouldn’t have done that” for him
>>152473991As far as this goes, I'm going to imagine that Peter isn't able to save Eddie, Dylan, or something like that during Death Spiral, leaving Venom angry. I think MJ and Peter will be having a heart-to-heart, not MJ being mad at Peter in #258.
>>152473843Cant do the Braid just yet but we did golden hair.
>>152475119
>>152473991maybe Maryjane reeks of Paul's semen.
Oh also a 4 page comic with a big but femainine venomj is also in production.>>152474232I like it>>152474659I comm plenty of stuff lol
>>152473991I think the only unfinished business was telling Peter to stop feeling guilty over the symbiote shit since he thought it was all his fault Venom was begging Eddie to talk to him
>>152475971Your taste is baffling. But at least tell me this comic you're commissioning isn't using this design...
>>152472226sexo
>>152477804Shit-taste lmao
>>152463172>krak onomatopoeia>splash around point of impact>making a fist with full swing through instead of open hand halfway outif its meant to be a throw the artist is still terrible and it doesn't flow whatsoever; its still masque landing on top of venom, leading with her left side going straight into a power move that launches venom into the distance with her left hand, there's no momentum at all
>>152457810On a personal note I'd been happy if they gave the same treatment every time Kingpin or Professor X was "gone for good" instead of the..... yeah. At least everyone memoryholed Onslaught permanently.
>>152477929I still remember. I still remember the Entity molesting Dani Moonstar. I remember