what's the american caricature equivalent of this?
It's probably a Trump caricature
Have a 1861 book on the American Revolution from Japan.
And here are some other Anglos.
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>>152472368>>152472370>>152472372Doesn't look spiteful enough to be equivalent.
>>152472400Best I can do is this chief.
modern example
>>152472318Goddamn racist caricatures and propaganda used to have SOVL now they're all just retarded A.I generated crap and fucking wojaks it's horrible.
>>152472318Nice art.
>>152472318Since when did Jerry from the Eltingville Club defect to Imperial Japan?
>>152472413yeah that's probably the closest we'll get, at least from that era
>>152472496why don't you make your own, then?
>>152472318>copied everything he sawWell some things never change
>>152472496Racism is built on a foundation of hate and ignorance but it's also built out of laziness. Relying on specific features for everyone they hate they use the laziest depictions to dehumanize people. Now AI dehumanize everything for them and makes them even lazier.
Which Hindu bot is making these threads?
Oh I love these old propaganda pieces.
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>>152474741Bonus dumb thing I have in my folder.
>>152472368that thread was fucking great
>>152474703I love how Putin basically copied Mussolini's shirtless shtick.>>152474769I missed that actually, which board was it?
>>152472370>>152472372Man us white people really must have looked like goddamn ogres once we started showing up on their isolated shores
>>152474774Oh you just reminded me of this image.
>>152474779Well the Chinese thought of us as closer to animals (they had a rudimentary concept of evolution or something IIRC) because we had different coloured hair like some animal species.
>>152474797They used something similar to this chart, yes.
>>152472496Look at that man, look how much power he radiates.
>>152474769Anyone got a link? I love seeing what other cultures think about stuff thats just so well known or matter of fact to us.
>>152474797Holy hell
>>152474808>whoever created this
>>152474788A classic.>>152474808Kek
>>152474808>tree shrews>american indiansmy sides
Japanese propaganda cartoons during the War often used Mickey Mouse as shorthand for "Americans"https://youtu.be/z0ItktGL4uM
>>152475019So this is that "anime" everyone's been talking about, huh?
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>>152475084That’s literally anime
>>152474808this is accurate
>>152474741The funny thing about Trotsky is that when you read a bit about him you understand exactly why the commies wanted him dead.
>>152475248>read a bitFuck that, can you give us a hint?
>>152474741I love how the assassin is dressed in the most stereotypical manner possible. I get that the artist just wanted to depict him as being in Mexio in the most obvious way outside of drawing Trotsky eating a taco with a Mexican flag on the wall, but I like to think the assassin went out to get the most 'Mexican' outfit he could find.>>152475248Trotsky basically did a lot of shit Stalin did but because he didn't fully mature into a genocidal paranoid dictator he gets a pass.
>>152474808It's like an alien wrote this.I need sauce>great apes>degenerated into the Polish>who degenerated further into toastersholy lol
>>152475300mexibro looks like stalin too - that is literally stalin in a sombrero
>>152475289He was just absolutely fucking insufferable. Endlessly bitched about anything and everything and spent most of his time actively trying to fracture the communist party into endless cliques. A fun thing while reading the stuff he wrote is how much time he devotes to specifically seethe about Stalin just. doing completely normal shit. like just look at this lmao
>>152475313It's from National Lampoon (the magazine).
>>152475344>Endlessly bitched about anything and everythingThat just sounds like every communist everywhere. Damn, they wanted him dead for being the average commie.
>>152474813Yeah, I want Schlomo in my corner during the RaHoWa. Dude looks like he could suplex a building.
>>152475382He looks like The Thing before the cosmic rays.
>>152475395No
>>152475354I thought it might be. Which issue? How about OP's image because that looks like a fun thing to read.
>>152475378Trotsky literally was the abstract personification of communist infighting. He quite literally opposed the very concept of "let's put our differences aside and work together".At the time, the principle of the party was that when they had a majority vote during a congress, conference or other organ for discussion, that became the position on the issue and everyone should follow it- which you know, is how democracy works. After any vote, unity of action should follow, and the comrades who held the minority opinion, even if they still disagree, should submit to the collectively agreed-upon position, and act on that line an all party matters. Because otherwise, any action is crippled by unending debates kept alive by a minority. Trotsky was literally the one great opposer of this basic fucking concept. He called Lenin "the great disorganizer of the party" over this. This is the first great pillar of trotskyism. Not only was he the type of guy who argues about everything, he wanted, genuinely, for everyone to do nothing all day but argue about everything.
>>152475478Another fun Trotsky fact is that he quite literally had no principles but [whoever he is arguing against] bad. He constantly voted on issues and then started screeching against the thing that he literally just voted for. He bitched about Lenin corrupting the revolution and being a degenerate counterrevolutionary nonstop until Stalin arrives in power, and then Lenin is the true soldier of the revolution and Stalin is corrupting his ideals. He complains endlessly about democratic centralism, but once he was in exile and had to criticize the Communist International, he suddenly really had no issue with democratic-centralism. He shouts without end that a revolution in one country is impossible and that it has to be done globally otherwise the reprisal will be impossible to overcome but when it's about the possibility of a revolution in the US, then all his worries of an insurmountable reaction dissolved, and he becomes an optimist who believed that, actually, there would be no real significant class who would oppose a revolution in the US, and that therefore the USamerican workers should carry out a revolution "without compulsion". The very same person who over the course of decades insisted on the dangers of a counter-revolution apparently believes the workers of the USA had no opposition to fear. The truth problem is that Trotsky simply had no principles other then pure contrarianism.
>>152475478Sounds like a real retard. So how do like Animal Farm?
>>152475642It's kind of a disgusting book for me. It feels like Orwell thinks the working class is something less then human, drooling morons who cannot possibly be the drivers of any kind of change. literal sheep who are only capable of emptily repeating the slogans told to them who are doomed without snowball
>>152475686That’s just the truth
>>152472496Looks like the biphron from SotN
>>152475686>>152475702https://youtu.be/_-lcfqahXj0
>>152474808> women are just a branch off of arabsMakes sense.
>>152475478>>152475631I am pleading with you to put down the adverbs.
>>152474774>>152474815https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/260432451/#260432451
>>152476009You will definitely never take them away from me, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. Never, you hear me completely and definitely? Never!
>>152475686I mean… but that’s more specifically what I wanted to ask, your opinion on Snowball as a character and symbol
>>152474651fax, it is a belief for lazy thinkers who prefer white pedos over any brown person
>>152475478contrarian Trotsky
>>152476391Kys, faggot
>>152476481Pedos should be chemically castrated bare minimum, no?
>>152476387In terms of character in the story there isn't much. He is Trotsky as the ideal, but I don't believe nor care about that ideal. Here's the thing- the worship of the loser is big among communists, but I think it's a dumb thing to do. trotsky/luxemburg/makhno/the gang of four/etc never came to power, so you can imagine they would have resolved the contradictions of their time and place, but once you make this utopia your point of comparison, your ability to make real critiques of projects grounded in their reality craters
>>152476504I was referring to your faggotry
>>152476504What is the point? It's not like it helps anyone to chemically castrate them over just putting them in jail. All it does is give the state permission to chemically castrate people.
>>152476505>the worship of the loser is big among communistsIt really is like that, huh? Bleeding hearts that want to give everyone everything out of sympathy, or people who give losers everything because they hate that there are even bigger winners than themselves?
>>152476514I’m somebody else>>152476523Then why not do both to the pedo? I said it was the bare minimum but even more things should be done to keep them in check.
>>152476609>Then why not do both to the pedo? What is the point of torturing the man? The point of prisons is to remove the offending element from society. They are already removed. Are there children in rue prison? What is the point of the castration beyond satisfying your sadism?
>>152476649>Are there children in rue prison? There might be. I’m not trying to be sadistic. It’s the opposite, I want to think about the most humane way to deal with a pedo without letting their sinful ways bear fruit. Is jail it? Because inmates have been known to kill kid diddlers
>>152476677Why are there children in the prison? That seems like a problem you should solve before you start mutilating the inmates. It's not like anyone has ever been convicted wrongly.>Because inmates have been known to kill kid diddlersAnd that isn't a thing that should be happening either.
>>152476700Some kids can be tried as adults if they do something really bad. So then pedos are in jail for how long? Then what happens?
>>152475289The early life section of his Wikipedia
>>152475631>>152475344Trotsky refused to tip waiters when he was in NY. He couldn't even order a meal without someone hating him
>>152476783In the case the absolutely minuscule amount of children that get tried as adults goes to jail and happens to meet a pedo, generally you employ any of the security measures that should be employed in a prison to keep the inmates from murdering or raping each other. No need to chemically torture anyone
>>152475114>Tokyo has a bay>Virginia has a bayHonorable Washington-san
>>152476785Kek>>152476823Ok
>>152472413Look at this cheeky fuck
>>152474808>Irish sre descended from CavemenDon't ask me how we dodged the Monkey bullet. Orangutans were right there.
>>152475478>Not only was he the type of guy who argues about everything, he wanted, genuinely, for everyone to do nothing all day but argue about everything.>He was one of us>We were jews the entire time
>>152474808My dad half jokes that the Slavs were the last whites out of the caves.We are part Czech
>>152474703lmao, fits right into current times too
>>152474741He was killed with a pickaxe? I thought it was an ice pick
>>152477094Ice Axe. He basically got killed like a Remake Tomb Raider goon.
>>152472318>>152473883It's by Miguel Covarrubias, a Mexican painter and cartoonist. In the US, he did a lot of work for Vanity Fair and The New Yorker. He also had an interest in anthropology and archeology, so he usually wasn't as purposefully unflattering as in OP's illustration when depicting other ethnicities. Pic related was made in the 30s.
>>152477094"Ice pick" was a mistranslation, he was actually killed with an ice axe (like the kind used for mountaineering).
>>152472496You haven't seen most of them. There's some you can appreciate from the sheer audacity and effort put into it, like some of the ones these threads are generally made for, but nine times out of ten it's low effort trash. I've been digging into ancient comics and magazines that fell into the public domain. The racist caricatures I tend to constantly stumble upon in the process are just aggressively monotonous and boring, along with the rest of the comic. Same execution and punchlines every time, like they were working off a checklist rather than trying to be creative. >>152474651Pretty much. Racists ultimately offshoring their thinking to the machine was always going to be the end result; the goal from the start is to prevent having to actually think about the world around them.
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>>152477241>>152477248One thing to note, these examples are all from THE SAME ISSUE. Half an entire magazine wasted on this tripe, and it doesn't get much better in later issues.
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>>152477241>>152477248>>152477268I find these kinds of stereotypes hilarious because they are so cartoonish.No Black person in history has ever looked like this.
>>152477315>capital b
>>152477315I don't even disagree with you. I would find these a lot more entertaining if they weren't so omnipresent for the entire first half of 20th century media. It's like hearing the same joke over and over until it just gets grating.
>>152477208What did he do in the 50’s for the Japanese then?
>>152476295>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/260432451/#260432451This is like the One Piece version of US history.
The NoKos do a good job charicaturing Americans--Japs, too--in cartoon-like fashion on their propaganda posters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTCZwmFv7_M
>>152475686I feel the counterpoint to your line of reasoning is Road to Wigan Pier, where he points out the working class has more immediate and practical concerns.
>>152477754I agree with that but I think that's not really the view he's presenting in Animal Farm itself (or 1984, for the record)
>>152477394He seems to have mostly focused on Mexican subjects and his homeland's cultural scene by that time. However, in the late 40s he illustrated All Men Are Brothers, an English translation of the Ming-dynasty Chinese novel Water Margin.
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>>152477864I thought he’d do something like Dr. Seuss and make a piece apologizing for his propaganda
>>152474797A Japanese general once quipped that obviously the Japanese would win the war. After all, Westerns said they descended from apes, whereas the Japanese descended from gods.
>>152475478>>152475631He's literally me
>>152472400It's like calling someone a cracker. I get the intent, I understand the feeling and emotion, but I can't upset. I don't think you really can insult white people. At least not racially
>>152472318Something like this
>>152472318Why are americans so cartoonishly evil?
>>152478388They like cartoons and comics>>152478349Source?
>>152472443>>152478158>>152478349Isn't this weird? I see these images and I don't feel offended.
>>152478402No because you’re not a sensitive faggot. I wish they’d do more foreigner caricatures
