Ok, /co/, I trust you can be mature about this and not have it devolve into “My favorite character would agree with me!” Or “Err the other side in ontologically evil”
>>152497150I dont even know what anything is anymore. People will call me a woke faggot and nazi fascist bigot when I share my opinions.
>>152497172That’s fair, honestly, I probably shouldn’t even have posted this.
>>152497150>SupermanLiberal>BatmanLiberal>Wonder WomanLiberal>FlashConservative>Green Lantern Hal conservative, the others liberals>Green ArrowLeftist>Martian Manhunter He is an alien, he doesn't vote>HawkmanConservative>NightwingLiberal>All the other Robins and BatgirlsLiberal>Cyborg Liberal>StarfireLiberal>RavenLiberal>Beast BoyLiberal>ZatannaConservative>ConstantineHates Margaret Thatcher>VixenBlack conservative>Power Girl Conservative
>>152497172Do you perhaps support a homofascist state with gay marriage and sending people from homophobic countries to concentration camps?
>>152497209>Hal conservativeYeah, that checks out.
>>152497209>>Green Lantern>Hal conservative, the others liberalseven Guy and Alan?
>>152497264anon… Alan is gay…
>>152497264I forgot about Guy being honest
>>152497272He was closeted for a long time, like many conservatives
These days they're all liberals and leftists.Back in 2008 they did a comic written by both a conservative and a liberal where they divided them up. Very different time from now.
>>152497150>the other side in ontologically evilThat is why superheroes never would side with them. Sorry to break these news to you.
>>152497150Here are the known conservatives
>>152497150Lois >republicanClark>reluctant republican Bruce>Reluctant “fiscally conservative” Democrat Ollie>AOC-retweeting “Democratic Socialist”Hal>hasn’t voted since 92Barry>genuine independent Dick>Democrat Wonder Woman>is she even a citizen? Can’t voteAquaman >Foreign agent, can’t voteMartian Manhunter>cant voteAlan Scott>republican (and straight)
>>152497302Amazing the difference one mutated cheeto can make.
>>152497272To be fair a lot of republicans are gay too
>>152497331Reporters aren't Republicans.
>>152497315Delusional >>152497302You live in an echo chamber
Here are known liberals
>>152497209Batman would be centrist because he's got dirt on everyone.
>>152497355Then why not capitalize on it? >See? We're not homophobic! A lot of our own are gay!
>>152497331Sorry.But Alan Scott was a known democrat
>>152497367As far as I’m concerned the New Earth ones are the only Canon ones
What are his political opinions?
>>152497367>Doctor Light’s husband is the other Doctor Light (the rape one) >she had multiple children with him
>>152497150
>>152497372They kinda do, sometimes. They’re kinda Bi-Polar about it. Usually they’re homophobic until they’re caught engaging in homosexual acts and then they say “The Dems are the real homophobes” much in the same way with their relation with race. They would go “The Dems are the Real Racists” and “the Confederates and the Klansmen were Democrats” and then defend Confederate statues
>>152497366The echo chamber is DC Comics where all the editors are leftists and liberals and refuse to hire conservatives and have no intention of "platforming" conservative views.
>>152497398It's not very precise, especially the part about the centrists.
>>152497393They would be two different continuities.
>>152497362What a retarded thing to say. NBC’s previous nightly news host was a registered republican, he was also black which you retards think is impossible.
>>152497378Yes, but in that era it would be a completely different kind of democrat.
>>152497209>>Zatanna>ConservativeI am now imagining a version of Zatanna who lives in some Branson, Missouri type town who does magic shows for the boomers and it's really funny.
>>152497421Well that very may well be true for DC at the moment but you can’t really say that translates innately to the Characters. Many of whom they had not created
>>152497366I'm sorry anon, but superheroes would never support the Epstein class.
>>152497493They can change the personalities of the characters as they see fit, as has always been the case.
>>152497150>Ok, /co/, I trust you can be mature about this and not have it devolve into “My favorite character would agree with me!” Or “Err the other side in ontologically evil”Unfortunately, modern comic book writers are not mature and they all do that.If you want characters with real politics, you have to look to the past; today all characters are woke leftists except for the villains.
>>152497509At that point, they'd be apolitical and both parties would be in jail.Lmao
>>152497469Rebirth and Tom King specifically have it all under one continuity
>>152497362I don’t know what to tell you my friend but they’re conservative news agencies. From Newspapers, to television stations, to radio and online news
>>152497509Technically, they did nothing against Epstein.
>>152497264Don't be so sure about how Guy would vote. He might be a brain damaged asshole, but he was also a social worker who worked in prisoner rehabilitation and taught disabled kids.
>>152497488You realize most states, even California, are split pretty closely right? The idea that republican/conservatives are only in like Deep South states is completely divorced from reality.
>>152497509Based
>>152497526Red Skull is saying what people want to hear to get bodies for his cause, this is a run that tried to redeem the image of literal Nazis by making Cap one
>>152497398Prime and spectre aren’t villains. And I’m not doing some “prime time was right lololol” memeing either
>>152497398>Acts like Ben Shapiro but with zero ideological backboneThat is just regular Ben Shapiro.
>>152497557Yes, it's also a fictional story. The writer didn't know what he was doing; this comic practically created the Alt-right.
>>152497713What do you mean he didn’t know what he was doing? He deliberately wrote Stevil as a guy who wanted to take over the country.
>>152497526>Capitán-América-Steve-Rog(...).jpgYou are getting your ass deported, Pedro.
>>152497528The better world.>>152497546They probably jailed Epstein before he would ever rose to power. There is a reason why nobody has invente masturbation in the DC Universe.
>>152497744He wanted to convey a message and ended up with everyone being against him.Furthermore, having a Nazi say your enemy's speech is not good writing.
>>152497763I'm not American and I don't live in that country, Jamal
>>152497209Superman is actually pretty mum on what his politics are. Which is probably for the best.
>>152497777The Nazi saying it and people uncritically believing it is the point. He doesn’t mean a word he’s saying.
>>152497794That was the case back then, now it's different
>>152497209Superman's centrist. He's an immigrant but also a god at the same time so he knows how meddling makes shit worse but how it is also necessary at points.>>152497254Damn why did Ghislaine have to be evil...
>>152497794Just another way to troll Lois.
>>152497806That point is useless if the comic does not present a counterargument.Red Skull told the truth, and I shouldn't believe him simply because he's a Nazi. That's not a good story; it's lame writing.
>>152497254The funniest thing is that Kike is a leftist.
The problem is that the sort of person who will put on a costume and put their lives in danger to help total strangers for free simply cannot be pro-MAGA. This week there were 4th and 5th graders screaming and running in terror when ICE descended upon their school. No, Hawkman isn't going to support that. He's "Conservative" but not THAT "Conservative." No, Guy Gardner isn't going to support that. No, Green Lantern isn't going to support that. No, most people who pay attention to the news don't support the current political landscape. It's nuts, and frankly it's so nuts that if a comic writer put some of these actual real-life events in a comic they'd be accused of hamhanded writing. This week we found out that at a detention center for kids, the administrators ordered all the kids to gather in a converted gym on Thanksigiving, where the kids got to see an enormous spread of Thanksgiving food they assumed was a treat for them, only to be told it was for the Administrators, and then they went back to their routine of moldy bread. That's cartoon-evil. The only DC characters that'd support this shit are the villains.
>>152497904They would do ICE's job for free; expelling rapists and murderers from your country isn't a bad thing.
>>152497853>That's not a good story; it's lame writing.Well yes, nobody's really calling that into question but that is the intention regardless of what we like or don't.
>>152497331I think it would be safe to say Aquaman is a monarchist
>>152497372
>>152497793Sorry to confuse you with a Pedro, Paco.
>>152497985Yeah, and I say it sucks. Captain America should never have been a Nazi and he should kick his ass after giving a good speech.
>>152497904Superman could personally find and deport all illegals in a day.
>>152498104No problem, Tyrone
>>152498019>This photo is ten years old.Fuck
>>152498144You are so polite. Probably the result of working as a waiter serving us.
>>152497904>No, Hawkman isn't going to support that.Thanagarian Hawkman might
>>152498232Batman probably also would do it, is the alternative is letting his clown boyfriend die.
>>152497547Guy is the shockingly liberal republican who's at times too honest with his opinions.
>>152498223I don't work in that field; being polite isn't anything special, Rashaad.
>>152497331>>152498009Aquaman's dad is American and he was raised in Maine. Most of Aquaman's policies are him trying to westernize Atlantis to the point they won't start a war with the surface.
>>152497956The overwhelming majority of people being targeted by ICE are not "rapists and murderers." See: detention facility filled with children. ~70% of Americans either want ICE reformed or abolished. For something that actually doesn't affect most people in their daily lives that's a staggering fuckup. That's the sort of thing where cartoonists can feel comfortable making comics where ICE is simply "the Bad Guy" because frankly fuck the 30% saying "this is fine."If an artist had drawn Trump-supporters dressed like this guy a few months ago, they would've been called over-the-top. They probably still will be, but the guys complaining would be flooded with photos showing it's what real people see when they look out the window. When your side is casually dressing up like bargain basement Red Skull stooges, you're not winning the PR war, and it's pure silliness to pretend that any of these fictional moral paragons would support a schmuck like this guy.Trump would have no supporters among the fictional superheroes of DC comics. >>152498232No, even guys like Thanagarian Hawkman and Judge Dredd would be furious over the whole Epstein thing, the lack of any consequences for repeated fuckups, and the fact that ICE has been caught illegally jailing people over 4,000+ times.
>>152498315I'm going to cry, some few dollars that we spend in you country and your mother was capable to give you a better chance in life. Be proud of yourself, Panchito.
>>152498426I'm going to be honest with you, dawg. I don't understand what are you trying to do with this cringe ass tirade of you. Those guy are not going to concede, let alone change their point of view. They don't work in the same reality of the rest of the people. If that would be the cSe that old ass talking head of Jon Stewart would be hailed as savior of the republic.If you want to feel that you won an internet slap fight, just call them cuckservatives or said that they lick the balls of a pedophile. It's more civil.
>>152498309I mean, Guy's still a teacher. An asshole, a "conservative," but if you tell him that masked men from the government used a 5-year-old kid as bait to catch his no-violent-offenses dad then sent him to a detention center and stole his damn Spider-Man backback, you'd get a panel of him narrowing his eyes followed by a panel with something like the ICE goons waking up the next morning to discover they've somehow been dropped off on Apokolips. I'm trying to do my due diligence and think of any DC "superhero" that might support these guys and I've got nothing. Best I can come up with is Lobo not giving a fuck.
>>152497209>All the other Robins and Batgirls>LiberalTim and Steph were both coded conservative for the entire time Dixon wrote them. Willingham too.
>>152498426>the characters I like would agree with me
>>152498514Nobody taking ICE's side at this point is going to give an inch, but I don't like "just let /pol/ be /pol/" as a reaction either.
>>152498426Illegal immigration violates the nation like rape violates the body.
>>152498645Well, Trump would be the expert on that.
>>152498565That was 1990s conservatism though. A whole different beast.
>>152498449I don't know why you're saying you're going to cry, we're just having a friendly conversation, Malik.
>>152498703>>>Zatanna>>ConservativeShe does sex changes for free.
>>152497150>SupermanDefinitely some kind of right wing conservative. Grew up in Kansas, which voted for Trump all three times. Went to church on sunday. Believes all life is sacred, so he likely opposes abortion.>BatmanLikely democrat since he comes from money and. But not a modern day extremist leftist democrat. He's canonically stopped riots and political violence in many of stories.>Wonder WomanGiven she comes from a lost society of ancient greek warriors, her politics probably are unlike anything today. But she does seem to support a lot of pro-woman policies, so likely at least nominally left leaning. Perhaps a TERF. In that she's pro-matriarchy, but anti-transgenderism and abortion.
>>152498705>That was 1990s conservatism though. A whole different beast.It's a strange concept that conservatism changes its ideology. Progressivism makes sense to change; that's its whole point.
>>152497526Not our fault you went full retard and decided to rally around unsubtle supervillains.
>>152497209Zatanna literally turned a guy into a girl
>>152497209>Power Girl>ConservativeShe flies around with her power boobs out!
>>152498776>It's my fault these writers decided that Captain America should be a Nazi
>>152497150>another WHAT IF SUPERHEROES BUT IN REAL LIFE? threadOP these threads of yours are wearing thin. They all read like poorly disguised stealth politics threads and sure enough that's what people are using this for.
>>152498759The difference is that the party is now defined by a guy that prefers yes-men to people with actual expertise, and who is incapable of saying "I made a mistake." So you have the Republican bannerman taking anti-second-amendment stances because the alternative is saying "we've made some mistakes." That's not 90s conservativism. The Tim Drake of Dixon's run wouldn't support ICE any more than the current Tim Drake. The conservative Tim Drake of Willingham's run literally argued that part of why he and Batman didn't use guns was because they knew that if they ever fucked up and killed the wrong person there would be a public outcry and they'd be shut down. By not using guns they had an easier time flying under the radar. That Tim Drake would also be throwing up his hands and going "what the $#*@ dude?!?" at what's going on.
>>152498745>>152498787Yeah, an adult male. She could be fine with that and also for lower taxes.>>152498917I believe both Dixon and Willingham would disagree with you.
>>152497209Superman was raised by Christian farmers in a red state; there is no way he'd be liberal.
>>152497209why would zatanna be conservative?
>>152498426>The overwhelming majority of people being targeted by ICE are not "rapists and murderers."They are still criminals and should be punished for breaking the law. Do you think people that break and enter into someone else's home and refuse to leave be exempt from facing the consequences because they didn't rape or murder anyone?
>>152499144Dixon and Willingham are living breathing people who have listened to RW media on a daily basis for years. Their own positions today are going to be different from what they were just a couple decades ago. Willingham wrote a whole-ass story with Tim going to "we're not allowed say the country's name, but US forces are fighting there, and it ends with -stan" because at the time both Willingham and "Tim Drake" believed that America had an obligation to support Democracies abroad. You're not going to have a conservative writer in 2026 writing a story about any superhero going and lending a hand in another country without expecting to get paid for it. We're living through the biggest realignment in politics since the end of the Cold War, and one of the more quirky oddities of that is that the stances of fictional characters written a few decades ago are now totally out-of-whack with the current stances of their writers. And writers aren't always as ideologically consistent as their supposed "parties." People dub Frank Miller "Libertarian" or "Conservative" but his idea of a superhero is a "strong forceful personality" that helps others for free, and while he famously viewed Islam as a threat to America, he sneered at Reagan, was pro-gay-rights (in a clumsy way) in the 80s, he's firmly in the "BLM" camp and his hatred of Trump could power all of New York for a year if we could just figure out how to tap him into the power grid. Individual writers aren't going to fit neatly into party affiliation boxes. Stuff someone wrote 20 or so years ago isn't necessarily going to be consistent with their current beliefs, especially with a genre like superheroes that generally doesn't have a ton of depth.
>>152499604We had illegal immigration in the 90s too, Republicans were also against it then. Democrats also ran on being against it.
>>152497209> Zatanna Conservative> Power Girl Conservative>Vixen Black conservativeAnd you forgot one:>Hawkgirl (Shayera Hall): ConservativeSo, best girls are literally the best girls. Yes please
>>152499250I agree with Superman not being a liberal, but oddly enough I can see Pete Ross being one
>>152499250He's also a space alien immigrant that immediately turned coat when Kandor was brought back to normal size on Earth. I don't think he's that conservative. Maybe conservative manners and family values but liberal policies.
>>152499823>So, best girls are literally the best girls. Yes pleasefeels great desu
>>152499458Luckily we're talking about a country with a surface area of 3.797 million square miles and not someone's apartment. If someone manages to live here for years and doesn't break any serious laws beyond the "being here" ones, and has been paying taxes that whole time, my reaction is less "get them out of here" and "damn, get that guy some citizenship." Especially if they're already trying to get citizenship through the courts. >>152499822You, uh... didn't read that comic, did you? That's from Alan Grant's Shadow of the Bat run, from the Knightquest: The Crusade storyline. Spoiler: Azbats took the case and got the kid back. Denny "Massive Bleeding Heart Liberal" O'Neil was head editor during the entire era. Azbats not IMMEDIATELY taking the job was intended as a red flag that the boy wasn't right (as if him arguing with a hallucination of a dead crusader wasn't enough of a tip-off). I'm not about to go hunting for the exact issue, but I'm guessing there's a reason that's a crop of a page and not a full page.
>>152500126Of course I did, that's why I have a panel from it. Of course any Batman's going to have a problem with baby smugglers. He still wasn't going to help them stay in the country illegally.
>>152498568>>the characters I like would agree with me>He says on the site that has made numerous edits of Pepe & Wojaks agree with 4chan.
>>152497209The problem with this is that we never separate social vs economic politics.Most heroes are, if not all of them, socially liberal: ie fine with other people that don't look, fuck or pray like them it's their economic beliefs where shit gets weird and fun:>BatmanPhilanthropist capitalist>Supermanliberal bordering on leftist, won't call himself a socialist but believes in unions, taxing the rich (Fuck you Lex) and supporting the little guy>Wonder WomanNo label, only advocates for using all state funds to take care of the needy worldwide>Flash (Barry)Reasonable conservative, some regulations are fine and some social safety nets are fine. Big on work requirements>Green Lantern (Hal)Incomprehensible aerospace based economic policy >Green ArrowSocialist. Always one upping Batman in philanthropy since he's stuck in a low tax paying bracket>Martian ManhunterMartianomics, would probably be called a commie by Hawkman>HawkmanDe-regulation Libertarian>AquamanMonarchist
>>152499876>>152499250You are fucking idiots, S&S intended that Superman would be a New Deal. At best he would had racist tendencies but he would be big for social programs and a government with strong capacity.
>>152500409>>Flash (Barry)>Reasonable conservativeI going to be honest with you because it looks you are trying to argue in good faith. But since Nixon there is not a reasonable conservative movement. It's just has been a race to the bottom of radicalization. People to this day that call themselves reasonable conservatives in an attempt to appeal for a image of moderation are fucking liars or a mark.
>>152497372They do occasionally but you got to understand that bigotry is fundamentally baked in into right wing politics. That’s why gay republicans consistently find themselves stabbed in the back and thrown under the bus by their colleagues. Same shit with racism. There are plenty of black and brown conservatives who think they’re part of the club only to discover that under the surface their party just hates them for their skin colour. Look at how quickly right wingers starter attacking all Indians last year and how Dinesh D’Souza is now acting surprised about it. Same thing with JD Vance who just pretends it’s not a problem at all despite being married to one and having mixed kids. Hell Vivek Ramaswamy literally got told on television by Laura Ingraham that despite liking his politics she would never vote for him because he’s Indian. And he just had to take it and smile. Same shit at a campaign event where Christian fundamentalists that said they would not vote for Vivek for governor simply because he’s not a Christian.This is who right wingers are.
>>152497853It’s not a fucking debate. >Red Skull told the truth, and I shouldn't believe him simply because he's a NaziOnly a Nazi sympathiser would say that.
>>152501445You do know that throughout the entirety of history, every nation protected its borders and hated foreigners, right?
>>152497904Man, I bet you even believe that shit to.
>>152499458By this logic everyone who has a speeding ticket or jaywalked has to be put on concentration camp and given the same inhumane treatment that immigrants and even US citizens are now subjected to by ICE and Border Patrol. It’s a civil infraction but you’re the type of person who literally rushes to defend it when ICE murder citizens on camera.
>>152498523They didnt use the kid as bait, the dad fucking abandoned him. They tried tongive him back but the mom wouldnt even open the door. They even got the kid McDonalds to try and calm him down. Not that I'm telling this to convince you, I know your a disingenuous liar. Just wanted to give other anons the low down on your bullshit.
>>152498683Snarky come backs arent a counter point, dipshit.
>>152501572No dipshit, if you broke into a country, you get sent back to your home country if you get caught. You're puking in my hands and telling me it's shampoo.Also, I cant believe no one else brimgs this up but illegals also, to a man, commit identity fraud. Yet another little detail this good little stooge refuses to bring up.
>>152501620No dipshit, if you ever got a speeding ticket or jaywalked you deserve spending several months in a small cage eating moldy bread, unclean water, not being given sufficient hygiene products and of course getting sexually assaulted by the guards. Sorry. That’s just your own rules, buddy.
>>152501657No, because that doesnt happen in American detention centers. Also, the kids in cages pics you cry while masturbating to every day were during the OBAMA era. Im sure you were just as vocal about your denouncement of them then as you are now?
>>152497150>every other week some Suicide Squad(TM) or involuntary government experiment to make super-soldiers is exposed>JLA does nothing about itThey're all ZOG'd except some of the aliens.
>>152497150If you read this run Hal isn't even all that conservative, Ollie is just foaming at the mouth to rant about the injustice of literally anything while Hal just sighs. No wonder he went gray early
>>152501709>That didn’t happen!>And even if it did, it only happened under Obama!
>>152497150>I trust you can be maturebwahahahahahahah
>>152501709Wrong again!
>>152501826>It's happening all the time!!!>We just dont talk about it when democraps are in office.
>>152501874Thank you for conceding.
>>152501572>>152501657Are you completely unaware that different crimes have different penalties? Speeding or jaywalking carries a fine because that is what is defined by law. Entering the country illegally or violating immigrant laws carries the punishment of detainment, deportation, and a ban on re-entry. Why is that so hard for you to understand? And all these people detained for violating the law could have simply avoided it; the government is literally paying people to leave and forgiving any outstanding fine.https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome
>>152499876Recent Lana lang stated she was a liberal
>>152500988Kansas voted for FDR in 32 and 36 and stopped doing so after that. Things change, Superman changed.
>>152501945Don't bother with it anon. He comparing misdemenors to federal crimes. He's never going to listen.
>>152497904Guy Gardner in the JLI era absolutely 100% would support children being dragged kicking and screaming out of the country as long as they weren't white.
>>152497172That's how you know you aren't an NPC
>>152499250Let's assume the asinine premise that the Kents are Conservatives, but we will for the sake of discussion. Superman left them and Kansas and had an entire life outside of his farmboy days. He's had plenty of time and experience to change his politics while flying around the world saving the day. And, his general attitude towards people are far more left leaning than right leaning.
>>152501548Nigger at least engage with his points instead of spouting off a non sequiter
>>152501445>Vivek Ramaswamy literally got told on television by Laura Ingraham that despite liking his politics she would never vote for him because he’s IndianIt was Ann Coulter, not Laura Ingraham. Though know it's easy to get all the Fox News Barbies confused
>>152501952Yeah, well her Ex Was Lex's VP.
>>152497302What comic?
>>152502169Current Superman, sure. Byrne's Superman was conservative though. Had the aura of a Reagan supporter. Executed some pocket universe Kryptonians because they were beyond redemption.
>>152502596DC Universe Decisions
>>152502169>Let's assume the asinine premise that the Kents are ConservativesWhy is that asinine? The Kents are white Christian farmers from Kansas. All of those demographics are more likely to be conservative. Could they be liberal? Sure, but the chances of them being liberal are about the same as a black trans Jew from California being conservative. It's certainly possible but not very likely.>his general attitude towards people are far more left leaning than right leaning.Which would be what exactly?
>>152502813It's "asanine" because the faggot has 0 (zero) ability to see reality outside of his screw head.
>>152502230He faggot HAS no points. He just wants to go under the assumption that "conservatives" are inherently evil and when you tell him that aint how life works, he pitches a fit and calls you fascist. There is no reason to engage with points that come from a flawed, biased premise.
>>152501945I’m aware. I’m not the one hyperventilating and crying about crime and calling it an invasion and then defending every illegality that the current administration and ICE is guilty of simply
>>152502813If they were modern day conservatives they wouldn’t harbour multiple aliens or support Clark being a journalist.
>>152503595The delusions in your head arent reality.
>>152498523Yeah, but would you see that because it's authentic to Guy's character or because all comic writers are libtards. There's a reason that USAgent, the conservative Cap, is the designated retard jobber.
>>152503711Guy Gardner is a loudmouthed asshole who repeatedly has to learn to be less of a dick. That’s his gimmick. You want him to willingly support and possibly even participate in terrorising small children as part of jackbooted effort to capture people whose only offence is outstaying a visa or failing to follow immigration policy but still portray him as 110% correct moral hero who gleefully enjoys it? It’s pretty demented.
>>152501445Right-wingers hate Dinesh and Vivek because both have said on numerous occasions that Indians and other immigrants are superior to the native population. These sentiments weren't in response to trolling; they have flat out said, unprovoked, that Indians and other immigrant groups should be prioritized and given special treatment in getting jobs because they deem the native population too stupid, entitled and lazy. Turns out that most people don't take too kindly when a guest talks shit about their hosts, especially after welcoming them and awarding them with opportunities that they would never have in their homelands. Even the Democratic candidate for governor is using what Vivek has said against him and its working; she's favored to win because he can't stop doubling down and tripling down at labeling Americans as lazy and inferior. Ohio is very likely to be in Democratic control not because of a leftward shift on the issues, but because the Democrats are taking a more hard line against legal immigrants and HB-1 visa abuse than Republicans.
>>152497209>Power Girl>ConservativeYeah, that's gonna be a no
>>152503911>because both have said on numerous occasions that Indians and other immigrants are superior to the native population.Facts don’t care about your feelings crowd suddenly get their feelings hurt when statistics show that Americans born in the country do more crime, work less and don’t excel as much in academic as migrants do? Shocking! >because they deem the native population too stupid, entitled and lazy. Which is just standard conservative view of everyone not from their own in-group. Conservatives are constantly calling Americans lazy, entitled and spoiled when pushing their policies. They bitch about men being lazy bums wanting to play video games instead of working for low minimum wage. They call you a bum when you can’t get a job during a recession. You’re acting entitled when you don’t like that republicans want to cut your food stamps to levels where you have to skip meals so that your kids don’t go hungry or that they impose work requirements on your food assistance even though you’re already working and simply aren’t paid enough to pay for everything because of how stagnant wages are and how expensive everything is. That’s what conservatives do, the difference is that when a non-white conservatives say it specifically about white people suddenly it’s offensive because they’re racists assholes who can’t handle their own spite being thrown back at them.
>>152497150>a member of the billionaire class calling anyone a fascist
>>152504073Ollie's always been a massive left hypocrite douche. The kind that will brag about marching in college that was paid for on his family's dime.
>>152497372*gay* is an orientation. it isn't a personality or culture and shouldn't be used to define a person. nobody cares if you are gay, nobody really wants to know either. the issue isn't about being closeted, its about some needing validation, whose only identity is being gay. its a shield to avoid personal responsibility and an attempt to 'matter'. it isn't bigotry or politics, people generally don't care about sexual tendencies of others.now fucking kids or animals, they deserve the millstone but nobody cares who you fuck otherwise.
>>1524973781940s democrats supported the klan & hitler.
>>152503932It’s literally canon she was conservative in DC Decisions
>>152504158And DC Decisions was a horrible comic in general
>>152497209>Hates Margaret ThatcherDoes he piss on her grave?
>>152504014hahahahahahahhahha
>>152497150Flash is a conservative
>>152504583As is Wonder Woman
>>152504586And Lois Lane (which means Clark's either Republican or a moderate.)
>>152504589But Green Arrow is an AntiFa terrorist
>>152498426My polls say 95% of Americans support I.C.E.
>>152500126You've been groomed since early childhood to have that opinion. I remember in Kindergarten they were teaching usbthe alphabet and we hadn't even made it to the letter H before they stopped everything and read us a book about Martin Luther King Jr. and spent a whole month telling us: "White people are bad and it's your job to be nice to black people." Hadn't even learned half the alphabet, primary colors, or shapes yet and they were shoving that in our faces. You most likely won't be able to internalize this much like when someone on a polygamist compound gets told they're in a harmful cult and cant accept it but you were truly groomed into having this opinion and reject all evidence thst its bad because if an overwhelming emotional response that tells you those thoughts are dangerous and you're supposed to ignore them.
>>152504638And you’re, what, an “objective” pattern noticer that justifies racism and bigotry through empirical research?
>>152498787>>152498745>>152499144wtf? pics or it didnt happen
>>152504903they're referring to Dini's Zatanna run. all Zee did was transform a girl who's part of her crew to look like Zatanna.
>>152498565And it backfired spectacularly. Tim was so conservative under Dixon it wrapped around to him reading as scared of vaginas, and Steph's kid was basically memoryholed. So much for the family values sidekicks.
>>152499250He was created by a canadian jew and spent his first few issues beating up bankers.
>>152505005Don’t forget the whole debacle with Connor Hawke where Dixon wanted him to be polar opposite to womanising Ollie as a gag, only for the entire fandom to just read him as gay (like with Tim) and Dixon then going NOOOOOOO HE’S HECKING STRAIGHT SEE I MADE HIM FUCK HIS DAD’S RAPIST!!!
>>152501100Don't you have to release another 10+ violent felon to stab someone on a subway? Protest deportation of illegal alien pedophile?
>>152500126>Luckily we're talking about a country with a surface area of 3.797 million square miles and not someone's apartment.Yes, because you wouldn't let an unvetted person into your apartment to risk becoming their victim at worst, cover the costs of their presence at best. You prefer somebody else from your fellow citizens to be a potential victim of their crime, for the majority of tax burden to be on the others.
>>152497172The terms and labels of political discourse in America have been purposely stripped of meaning so that people can't have political conversations. A conversation literally cannot happen without agreed-upon terminology.People argue over vagueries and labels with no meaning that they've thoughtlessly applied to themselves. When I can actually get someone to drop the labels and discuss the actual principles and policy positions they hold it never matches what they think they are.Ironically a metric fuckload of right wing voters hold extremely left wing collectivist views, they just don't know that that's what they are. They think left wing means turning the kids gay or whatever, that the fundamental notion of leftism is reduced centralized power is not just foreign to them it's counter to what they've been taught.
>>152505215>for the majority of tax burden to be on the others.Even the fucking Cato institute says immigrants actually generated a fiscal surplus. In the last thirty years it amounted to about $14.5 trillion. They paxes without being able to get benefits
>>152505281Anon you are talking to someone that does not care about realityThey have their narrative and it functions as a justification for violence and that's all they want.
>>152505281>they take no benefitsWhose households receive benefits that goes on anchor children?
>>152505369>SNAP for children that are unquestionably American Citizens with parents here with valid legal statud is bad actually!It doesn't even matter that these programs are peanuts on the budget and wind up saving billions in lost productivy and health care, I hope you starve
>>152505281Fraud committed by migrants ended candidacy of the guy who was Dems latest VP pick to drop out of elections >>152505298>violenceRamming ICE agent with a car?Interfering in ICE law enforcement while conceal carrying gun, 11 days post committing federal felony of devastating federal property?This violence?>>152505383>it's small amount of moneyI am sorry but wasn't your side claiming illegals don't take benefits at all? Maybe don't be exposed as a dirty liar before pretending you can weigh in whatever it is a lot of wasted money or not.>unambiguous American citizensThey aren't children of brought to the country slaves whose children were supposed to be guaranteed citizenship, they are spawn of illegally arriving by their own will invaders taking an advantage of idiotic statute extension of an Constitutional amendment. There is currently over 1 million of illegal aliens with final deportation orders and over 3 million being processed by the courts. This is invasion and you are a traitor. Because just like in the times of slavery, you want cheap labor and more Congress seats.
>>152505449>ESL obsessed with US politicsDie.
>>152505449This is you.
>>152505515you are brainwashed
>>152501477You proved I was right, you idiot.
>>152497362Anon, Pelosi literally exposed CNN being republican apologists
>>152499250Lol
>>152497835>My politics?>Whatever annoys Lois the most at that moment.
>>152497421Oh no I guess conservatives will just have to settle for having control over every other media. What a shame. >>152497421
>>152505557Prove what, that you think a Nazi scapegoating immigrants as evil is “le truth” because it happens to coincide with your pre-existing beliefs?
>>152501100This behavior is why you guys got Trump twice you understand that right
>>152502608>>152502596Be warned: besides the idea of showing a realistic election with realistic politicans, and how quickly political divides can destroy long built friendships over minor disagreements, it's a pretty bad story
>>152505638>This is YOUR fault!Why don’t you take responsibility for your own idiotic actions, anon?
>>152505657Point proven
>>152497150They're all highly satanic and doomed to the depths of hell
>>152497150>tfw your friend from high school meets your friend from college
>>152505660Nobody forced you to elect a guy who has spent the better part of a year now trying to pretend nobody cares about the most infamous pedophile in the history of the country and gave his convicted co-conspirator Club Fed treatment after his personal attorney had a private meeting with her. You chose to do that after already knowing what a shitshow his first four years in office were that culminated in him riling his supporters to try and overturn democratic election results. Take some fucking personal responsibility for your voting habits.
>>152499458Die
At this point it's irrelevant, what matters is where they stand on the Israel and Epstein situation.
>>152505457You can't read>>152505515You laughed at Charlie Kirk's murderYou both suck dick like it's going out style.
I’m glad all you guys are being mature and not devolving into calling moderate liberal policies communist or moderate conservative policies fascist
>>152505779Nigga I don't even live in America I think you're deflecting
>>152505449Pancho, we know we are the greatest country in the world but try to get some pastimes that don't involve obsessing with us.
>>152501477No, only an idiot would have a fake Nazi say the truth, then demand that we call it a lie just because a fake Nazi said it.You just want to label everyone you'd disagree with. Anzi so you can attack them.
>>152505989Blow it out of your ass fence sitter.It's not the 90s anymore, stop acting like it is.
>>152505982I thought you wanted comedy to be legal again but now you’re pearl clutching and policing speech? That’s rich.
>>152506011Red Skull is a “fake Nazi” now? Okay dude.
>>152506021Funnily enough, in the 90s, they’d say I should blow it out my ass because it’s not the 50s anymore. It’s almost as if political machines like the GOP and the DNC want to drive up controversy and pretend that either side is doing something wildly unprecedented so they can trick idiots into constantly giving them money. All the while they drink Champagne, smoke Cigars, and party in the same clubs and on the same islands they’ve paid for with the money you gave them after they tricked you into believing they are enemies. You’d think Noam Chomsky and Steve Bannon colluding with one another behind the scenes would wake people up but, again, I guess there is no short supply of useful idiots.
>>152504014The oikophobia inherent in the left folks.
>>152506103He's a fictitious character. He says whatever the writer wants him to, regardless of historic precedent or modern political reality.
>>152506132>A Nazi character saying nazi shit is a strawman ans bad writing because uwu I happen to agree with his points
>>152504722>and you're, what,A man with clearly more intelligence than you.
>>152506095You're a ghoul that pretends to care about human life after mocking a man after he was murdered in front of his family. What's more pathetic is you're also a sensitive little faggot who tries to turn made up arguments back on your opponents because it physically hurts you to have to confront the truth.The 'legal status of comedy' isn't relevant, weather some people find you funny or not isn't relevant; you are an unrepentant hypocrite and you have nothing of value to say.
>>152506103Yes, my guy. I can assure you that we can search through the Library of Congress, the Moscow Archives, The London Archives, and the works of any historian from credible to somewhat Zaney and you’d find no references to a “Red Skull” actually having had served in either the Wehrmacht or Waffen SS.
>>152504167Still doesn’t change the fact that she’s conservative. But how do you reconcile that with the fact that her last 3 boyfriends were black?
>>152497331Diana Prince (Wonder Woman) was part of the U.S. Air Force for multiple decades. It's highly likely she took the time to become a naturalized citizen.
>>152506114I ain't reading all that cope faggot.I don't care about your justification for your refusal to see the political shifting that's taking place. Just promise me when things are different 20 years from now, you won't go around pretending you had a hand in any of it.
>>152505457>no argumentsThanks for the concession dipshit.
>>152506154>If I just say it over and over again it will become true!!!Nothing in his famous speech was Nazi talking points, it was modern conservative talking points that were crudely painted to look like Nazi points. You, being the bought and paid for goon that you are, bought it uncritically.
>>152506193It’s funny how every election year is the most important year yet, isn’t it? Who knew Democracy was always at Stake!
>>152505582The only thing Pelosi exposes is the stock market to her congressional buddies.
>>152506169Charlie Kirk is a joke.
>>152506200Thank YOU for the concession cum guzzler!
>>152506211Keep boxing with those ghosts Anon, one day you'll get 'em
>>152506209Yes scapegoating a minority for all the ills of the world is what nazis do. I said nothing about republicans. You did that. Curious, isn’t it?
>Charlie Kirk is a joke.Is that why you feared him?
>>152505779>Trump name dropped hundreds of times>never once as a ped.Whatever makes you feel betrer about yourself I guess.
>>152506236>SCAPEGOATING [people I align with] BAD!>SCAPEGOATING [people I oppose] GOOD!
Neither did I. I said conservatives, curious how you mix those two thing up...
>>152505989Well no one has said commie but you got plenty of guys screaming fascist. Please dont pretend like we're equivalent.
>>152506218Yeah what’s going on with his wife right now?That stuff’s weird.
I always wondered where DD fell being a Catholic but also kind of patriotic back in the 80's
>>152506236Please refer to >>152501561 you lying faggot.
>>152506283I'm sure whatever you want to see happening.
>>152504158>>152504167Decisions was mostly fine about defining characters' politics, but the single Power Girl panel was a big miss. "He'll keep us safe" that was it. Willingham and Winick showing that they really didn't know much about Power Girl and didn't really care either.
>>152506236Buddy, I’m not sure how to tell you this, but “scapegoating” minorities wasn’t something invented by or even really unique to the Nazis. In fact, many ideologies, both left and right, utilize popular animosity of a particular group held by the masses to further their own political ends. For instance, the Khmer Rouge attempted to “Purify” Cambodia of non Khmers, in Japan there is a sordid history of the majority Yamato population having animosity towards the Ainu. In America, both right and left, they’re many instances of this but one that immediately comes to mind is the blaming of the Irish for the Chicago fire. All this to say, that maybe, real world politics ideologies and movements are a touch more complex in their belief systems than to just say “Y is X because Z”
>>152506292Murdock's a patriotic lib.
>>152506410Heck FDR rounded up the Japanese and placed them in interment Camps in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor. Are we really going to say FDR, the anti Fascist Crusader, the man who pushed for the creation of HUAC to suppress the Silver Legion and German-American Bund a Nazi?
>>152506432To be fair, in real life political science terms, not the crude American vernacular, both the Republican and Democratic parties are Liberal.
>>152506432It feels like a dream how back in the day Marvel used to portray black racists as also being bad
>>152506571Cap was on the verge of saying something real nasty back then
>>152506451And liberals cant stop themselves from glazing FDR.
Cap is also a First Amendment absolutist which makes him a nazi chud today
>>152506869Well duh, only tyrannical fascists support freedom of speech.
>>152499823Vixen's a best girl?
>>152505281>Even the fucking Cato institute says immigrants actually generated a fiscal surplusThe Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank. Libertarians support unlimited immigration because it benefits big business. Of course they would try to manipulate the data to portray immigration as a benefit.
>>152498756Themyscira was confirmed to have trannies during Nubia's mini and Diana of all people probably wouldn't be against abortion lmao
What do you think the Political leanings of the Marvel Characters would be? Like you could say Spider-man was a libertarian as a teenager until he went to college and got laid than became a Liberal.
>>152497209>This postFanfiction
>>152503838I want him to have fun space adventures that everyone can enjoy, but that's too much to ask of leftoids.
>>152508176I'd say they're all some variety of lefty, since comic writers are all terminal libtards. Even characters like USAgent who are supposed to be right wing are like Diet Marxist because the writers can't bring themselves to actually write anyone with differing views.>>152506571If this were written today Cap would get cucked out on the next page by Luke Cage while everyone claps.
>>152508541maybe if it was written in 2008, but Bendis no longer works at marvel
>>152508583I guess Black Panther's the darling poc now?
>>152508541Priest was the last guy to write Walker well about 5-6 years ago.
bump
>>152505665Even Diana?
>>152497150They should all be liberal.
Does this woman look conservative to you?
Azrael would be bombing abortion clinics while breaking into ICE centers for illegals.Hal would be a totally pro Lockheed-ZoG Palantir shadow government type guy. He’s also Jewish so Zionist.Superman would either be, depending on S&S’ original vision or ‘modern’ pastiche, a fascist/futurist philosemitic New Dealer or a Barack Obama worshipping anti-Bush liberal. Superboy Prime is Clavicular. Looksmaxxing groyper.
>>152512271No
>>152512271Depends on the era.
>>152512271She isn't fat, ugly or littered with tattoos that make her look like the inside of a bathroom stall in a seedy bar...so yes.
>>152497172Then just have the correct opinions anon. Jeez, you act like thats hard to do.
>>152512271>phoneposter trying to be political
>>152512623but she runs around with her ass hanging out
Would Lois and Clark change their politics after their son came out?
>>152512911realistically, would lois disown her son for being a twink faggot?
>>152512623
>>152501620>>152497956>>152498645>>152505215>>152499458>They are still criminals and should be punished for breaking the law. Do you think people that break and enter into someone else's home and refuse to leave be exempt from facing the consequences because they didn't rape or murder anyone?They didn't break and enter. Most immigrants entered legally. In most cases its more like someone who signed a rent agreement and the lease expired, but is still paying rent in a weird quasi legal state.Even then ICE isn't just targeting illegal immigrants. It's like you have the police randomly going around town and detaining/arresting random people while demanding to see your lease and accusing them of breaking into houses.>>152501709>No, because that doesnt happen in American detention centerswrong:https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/detained-immigrants-detail-physical-abuse-and-inhumane-conditions-at-largest-immigration-detention-center-in-the-u-s
>>152506252wrong. He was still hanging out with epstein after the conviction for one. https://www.axios.com/2026/02/10/trump-epstein-files-jamie-raskin-unredacted
>>152505449>Ramming ICE agent with a car?>Interfering in ICE law enforcement while conceal carrying gun, 11 days post committing federal felony of devastating federal property?>This violence?ICE has lied about shooting people multiple times and has been forced to drop charges.They rammed swerved into a womans car, shot her multiple times, and tried to charge her.https://abcnews.com/US/video-suggests-dhs-exaggerated-claims-shooting-marimar-martinez/story?id=130077502https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/15/us/ice-shooting-dhs-doj-false-statements
>>152512911Well Dick Cheney’s daughter is a lesbian
>>152512707You know a lot of conservative women, especially those that are influences, are essentially whores right? Sure, yeah, the average hayseed conservative woman may be more likely to keep their virtue but super heroines aren’t hayseeds
>>152513494nta, but comparing influencers to superheroes is kinda retarded
>>152505611>That point is useless if the comic does not present a counterargument.Red Skull told the truth, and I shouldn't believe him simply because he's a Nazi. That's not a good story; it's lame writing.>Only a Nazi sympathiser would say that.See, I was right, the only reason why I should disagree with him is because he is a Nazi.Except that it's a fictional story and the comic didn't offer a counterargument, so I have no reason to think he's wrong
>>152513737The funny thing is, honestly, that he’d probably be convinced any ideology is bad so long as it’s endorsed by Red Skull in an official Marvel comic
>>152513236>>152513273>>152513341https://youtube.com/shorts/ciG0FvIUxKM?si=FlND0IszSihceQlg
>>152512271Kind of, why?
>>152512024Hal, Carter, Wally and Guy are canon conservatives.
>>152513737Proof he told the truth?
>>152513377Was she cut off from the family?
>>152515746No. Years down the line her sister, Liz Cheney, threw her under the bus for being married to a woman when Liz had to prove to the bigoted republican base tha she was tough and conservative enough for them when she ran for Senate. And when her sister publicly condemned that move it created a media storm and eventually Liz had to end her campaign and never won her Senate seat.
