His films were way before my time, but people seem to like them. Why didnt his studios achieve financial success?What are his best films?Why is his animation so much more detailed and better than modern animation?
>Why didn’t his studios achieve financial success?Towards the end they made some very questionable choices in projects. A Troll in Central Park is a movie that only appeals to toddlers. Rock-A-Doodle is a narrative mess. Titan A.E. married CGI and traditional animation … poorly. >What are his best films?NIMH, Land Before Time, and American Tail. They were him taking a more “adult” approach to Disney animation. Still kid friendly, but not afraid to scare them. As such, these aren’t movies that feel like forgettable fluff. >Why is his animation so much more detailed and better than modern animation?Traditionally trained (came from Disney). While he sometimes got into neat effects with his work (lighting in NIMH, especially) it wasn’t THAT different from Disney.
>>152565461>Why didnt his studios achieve financial success?When the Disney renaissance started they basically weren't able to keep up, for what could be a bunch of different reasons. More importantly though he had a string of blunders right around that time. He briefly recovered with Anastasia but being unable to adapt to the approaching CGI craze is what really killed his career.
>>152565461Good Animators don't necessarily make good businessmen.Or good storytellers for that matter.
>Secret of NimhDecent-ish box office, but it sunk the company. Eventually became a huge hit on the TV film rotation.>An American TailSo Stephen Spielberg saw Secret of Nimh and it reminded him of the early Disney films which caused to to financially back Bluth. It did very well at the box office actually, and it surpassed Disney's Great Mouse Detective from the same year.>Land Before TimeAnother Spielberg film and another big hit. Like Secret of Nimh it became replayed on TV a ton of times, and you probably all know that it has like a million video sequels.>All Dogs Go to HeavenDid okay. Videos sales and TV carried it.>Rock a Doodle>Thumbelina>A Troll in Central Park>Pebble and the PenguinThese movies exist.>AnastasiaTechnically the biggest box office that Bluth ever got.>Titan AEBluth didn't want to do this film, and when it flopped he never made anything else.
>>152565667Animation is storytelling. You’re contradicting yourself
>>152565603>Titan A.E. married CGI and traditional animation … poorly.This one was because of the catastrophic crash with Treasure Planet.
>>152565729Not necessarily.
>>152565758What you say?
>>1525654611. NIMH was unlucky with limited promotion and limited release.2. Little Mermaid destroyed All Dogs because Little Mermaid.3. 4 objectively terrible movies in a row in the 90.4. Titan AE was rushed then under-promoted then abandoned by Fox.Now don't ask this question again.
>>152565461>Why didnt his studios achieve financial success?He was the diametric opposite of Walt Disney. Where Walt was a so-so animator but excelled at managing and utilizing people and connections. Don was a skilled animator but had difficulty using his connections or crew effectively. That, and Don needs someone to rein him in and give him pushback on some of his story direction. His most well known works were always usually when someone else was there to safeguard him from lackluster ideas. Like when when he worked with Spielberg for short period of time.
>>152566881That you only meant well?
I rewatched a few of his films, and a few for a the first time. It honestly baffels me his studio lasted that long. Anastasia specially is an odd one, I found that movie hot garbage.
Titan AE got roughed up by being sent to Bluth. But it was the right move, and simultaneously had wrong decisions. It was originally going to be live action but they thought it would clash and full on lose to the star wars prequels. Which it would have no question. It being animated was the right way to go with it. Bluth was a bad choice cause he didn't want to do it and, as said earlier, the CGI did not work well with it.It still has a soft spot for me though as I really like a lot about it. It deserves more acceptance, but it is also correctly panned from a technical standpoint.
>>152567690To me, Titan A.E. belongs in a category with the Transformers animated movie. It’s better viewed as a loosely connected series of musical vignettes rather than as a coherent narrative.
>>152565461>but people seem to like themAnimators seem to hate Bluth for some reason: You got CalArts teachers shitting on him constantly, you got that "Quest For Camelot" interview with Lauren Faust where she said that if Warner Bros wanted a crappy Disney rip-off they should've called Don Bluth instead of her and you got pic related from the Simpson's art guide
>>152567784>picYou are wrong
>>152567607Anastasia is only really good for like three music numbers. The main couple looking different from the rest of the cast is off putting.
>>152569007Anastasia is also HILARIOUS because it tries to say that the October Revolution had nothing to do with the Bolsheviks and was instead caused by an evil warlock fueled by magic from Hell.
>>152565461I wish that Dragon's Lair game was more fun
>>152569020Well originally it was going to be more historically accurate but the suits wanted a Disney movie with magic and all that (which ended up no mattering at all to Anastasia's journey).
>>152569498Stfu, you autistic faggot
>>152569685Shut up, tranny
>>152566881Hit the road, Jack.
>>152565461Don Bluth peaked with his very first films is the problem. His later films just failed to have everything come together as perfectly as they did for The Secret of NIMH, An American Tail, and Land Before Time. Anastasia was good, but too little too late to save his already struggling studio at the time. Titan A.E. shows that Bluth was willing to try "adapting to the times," which is why THAT film's fate is that much sadder. A respectable attempt at combatting The Mouse, but a tragic ending with a legacy that seems impossible to recreate.
>>152565461because of the 11 movies he directed only 4 were truly good
>>152569502I wish that Dragon's Lair movie actually existed
>>152565461Also there were never enough animators in the world to do a movie like Disney’s at the same time Disney had something going on, and some of the best animators in the world wouldn’t work for him on principle because he left Disney
>>152571480>he left DisneyWhy aren't there more "bad boys" in animation? Everyone's cucked
>>152565461Bluth just was not that good an animator. His designs are mawkish and his storytelling sensibilities are sentimentalist in the vein of the worst Spielberg tripe. Which isn't to say that Disney is immune to this, far from it, but cut-rate smarm from a Mouse schismatic isn't going to produce something of the quality of the classic Donald shorts.
>>152565461>Why didnt his studios achieve financial success?He very obviously did, for like twenty years. This thread is dumb.
>>152572131Because it's gotten to the point that now going corpo is considered counter culture
>>152572131Because the dream that inspires people to become animators is to be part of doing the things Disney did and they believe the only place their dream will happen is at these companies because they feel that’s where it came from.
>>152566881You have no chance to survive make your time
>>152567784Based
>>152573441Nope
>>152565461>Why didnt his studios achieve financial success?>Why is his animation so much more detailedYou answered your own question.
>>152570134ooof, that ain't good
>>152565603So he was sort of the Uderzo of America.
>>152569020The bolsheviks as minions of an evil warlock sounds plausible.>>152565758Wait whatI was sure it was a couple years before Treasure Planet
>>152572512Didn't his studios go under 3 different times in 20 years. Bluth, Sullivan Bluth and Fox animation
