Energon Universe has reached 6 million copies sold across 96 issues, averaging 63,000 copies per title.DC’s Absolute Universe leads with 8 million copies sold from 116 published issues, averaging 69,000 each. Both Energon and Absolute Universes remain competitive in sales, with close averages per title.Skybound/Image's Invincible series had a massive month, selling one million copies in March alone.At the DC Comics presentation, Nancy Spears, VP Sales and Marketing at DC Comics, told the assembled crowd of comic book retailers, "We sold over 8 million copies across all six series of Absolute. And yes, we heard about not having enough copies, yes, and we read the FOC page and, yes, we heard all about it. We want to talk to you guys about it. Know we're passing up the FOC, but that's so that we can get comics onto your shelves. We have printed enough, we have. I promise you just order them."Well, to date, the Energon Universe has published 26 copies of Void Rivals, 29 issues of Transformers, 19 issues of GI Joe, and 5 issues apiece of Duke, Cobra Commander, Scarlett and Destro, and two Energon Universe Specials. Add it up, that's 96 issues over all, an average of around 63,000 for each title.For Absolute Universe, they have published 17 issues of Absolute Batman and an annual, 16 issues of Absolute Wonder Woman and an annual, 16 issues of Absolute Superman, 12 issues of Absolute Flash, 11 issues of Absolute Green Lantern, 8 issues of Absolute Martian Manhunter, and one each of DC All In, Absolute Special Edition, Absolute Ark-M and Absolute Evil, a total of 116 issues. That's 69,000 each.
So Absolute and Energon, basically level pegging! Arune Singh also noted that Skybound/Image Comics sold one million copies of Invincible comics in March alone as part of Invincible month…. That includes all the reprints, Invincible month covers, and new stuff like Battle Beast #7 (based on current orders), but maybe the Invincible Universe is heading to take Energon and Absolute down?https://bleedingcool.com/comics/energon-has-sold-6-million-copies-absolute-has-sold-8-million/
6 million? Sounds a littler inflated.
>>152567060You marvel fans must be real upset that your line has gone down the drain. spider-man fans in particular must be real mad.
>>152567117Krakoa fan here.I knew this would happen.
>>152567060You seriously underestimate Transformers and GI Joe fans. Those are some seriously dedicated folks.
>>152567126Honest opinion here despite what others think I REALLY do think 616 peter parker would have better of with Gwen Stacy she not have died really. As for MJ I stopped giving a shit about her long ago.
>>152566924I wish we got more Cobra stuff. The bad guys are so fun in this universe.
>63,000 copies per title>averaging 69,000 eachThat's are really lame numbers...
>>152567222That’s not how the sales breakdown would work at all.
>>152567259He's basically copying what Rich Johnston said in his Bleeding Cool article about this news and it only sounds like an own against Image and DC if you're Youtubeslop-brained
Now we need a image of Arcee and absolute WW dabbing on Marvel.
>>152567117Besides undoing One More Day what would Marvel have to do to get traction again?
>>152566924Why spam?>>152567222>>152567259>>152567299Per the other thread:>It’s not [that great] the 8 mill from absolute isnt really either.>Wonder woman and Batman both have 17 issues an annual and a special, Martian Manhunter has 8 issues so far, Superman is at 17. Thats 59 issues without flash or GL which I don’t know the issue number off the top of my head. Thats 135 per issue and we KNOW abs bat 1 is well about 500K dropping all the rest to 127K each. Assuming Batman didnt plummet that far it means all the rest - including the number ones - are selling pretty normal to actual quite low numbers.>Meanwhile you have 26 VR issues, 19 Joe, 29 Transformers, minus 500K for the combined number ones on each and you’re averaging about 101K an issue. Again, good, but not a remarkable number.
>>152567558>thats 59 issuesJust realized this doesn’t include the 4 specials despite mentioning them. It would be 63 so the per title share is even smaller. Still the same conclusion
>>152567572>>152567558Absolute GL and flash are each 11 issues inThat makes that 63, 85.7,500,000/85 (to account for number ones which is definitely an absurdly low assumption) gives us 88 per title. And yet we know Batman sells well above that.This means most absolute books sell 60-70.
>>152567678>>152567572>>152567558This means the energon books are only doing 74K a month if you remove 500K for the 3 number 1s (could even be higher). And that’s without drop off adjusting. More recent issues could be 60K if the first few of each sold well enough lol.Next time a shill tells you these numbers are all amazing add this context to it.
>>152567365Fire brevoort and everyone related to OMD from that building and burn the manifesto
>>152567365Moratorium on events for 5 years. No events. 5 full years. Chill with the legacies and shit. X-men back in the mansion, stop leaning into the victimization and bigotry shit. It isn’t internally consistent. Make a she-hulk book by and for straight men. Get rid of people like Ziglar, Phillips, North, Rowell, etc. Fire everyone in the Spider-Man office. Everyone. From interns to editors. Anyone that has written a Spider-Man comic in the last 20 years can never write one again. Banned, black listed, no more.
Marvel come on everyone is dabbing on you!!
>>152567689>Next time a shill tells you these numbers are all amazing add this context to it.Damn Rich, if DC and Energon are boasting about these terrible numbers how bad must Marvel be doing?
>>152567881Rich is a fat faggot I hope chokes to death on an olive, never again conflate me with that fat faggot.
Absolute and Energon seems top focused as a franchises.Snyder was smart with Absolute if It failed he could easily used DCKO to end his story and if It success It slowly introduce new heroes that made slowly people more interested with them and slowly go the pipeline Absolute - main DCUEnergon is similar and also was marketed well so started the hype.Ultimate problem is that it was barely planned, It had an idea and a time limit but nothing more, bait for marriage fans, bait for a not sucking Ironman, but then start to shit the bed every single time.
>>152567558Very nice. Now let's see Ultimate's numbers.
>>152568159They haven’t announced a total to crunch like with these two, but considering it’s dead I’d expect much lower per issue. Personally the only one I liked was X-Men but it was really held back by being an ultimate book. Ultimates was particularly dogshit. Spider-Man and Black Panther were just aggressively mediocre.
>>152568137The thing is neither line is selling that much better than normal. It’s more of a success for energon because they didn’t trade ongoing sales for an alternate line like absolute. DC overall probably so no more total sales since their non-absolute books are selling worse than ever.
>>152568230>The thing is neither line is selling that much better than normalIt's gotten new readers into comics. That's more than any company can say since the initial Ultimate line in the early 2000s. This just sounds like cope to convince yourself Absolute and Energon aren't as successful as they are.
>>152568468>It's gotten new readers into comicsNot really a quantifiable statement and sales would tend to disagree. Otherwise their totals linewide would be doing better. As I said it just shifted focus from some titles to others.
>>152568468See:>>152567689>>152567678The sales figures aren’t all that exciting. Denying that would be a cope.
>>152568497On the other hand saying they're bad sales is also another form of cope
>>152568481>Not really a quantifiable statement and sales would tend to disagreeSo the retailers saying they're bringing in new readers and making up for Marvel's abysmal sales are just lying because...?
>>152567558Reminder Rich loves Marvel and has a massive hate boner for DC. He'll purposefully spoil DC stuff a week before the issue's released but will hold off spoiling anything Marvel until the day the issue is released
Marvelsisters...
You have to nuke DCU and make Absolute the main character. Fuck that continuity bullshit, I want good shit.
>>152568572If he cared, he would spoil what black flame will do to supergirlBut seems that he wants brevoort incinerated from orbit now
>>152568519Who said they’re bad?
>>152568554First off who cares about marvel sales you seem to think this is some company war shit? I don’t give a fuck about them.Secondly I don’t see a bunch of retailers saying that. Just the same self-serving losers from midtown and shit who wouldn’t even be able to name their regulars.
>>152568814>But seems that he wants brevoort incinerated from orbit nowQrd?
>>152568852So you’re not a marvel intern just some douche who feels the need to show everyone how smart you are by doing basic math and going “um ackshually” to the first bit of good news this industry has had in a decade? I dunno what’s worse tee bee aytch
>>152569063Brevoort and the OMDfags managed to tank all of the sales in less than 2 years, now DC and Image took over, even funnier though, they announced today that Gail Simone is going to image to write She-Spawn with all the freedom she never had at marvel recently.
>>152569227Oh, I thought you meant that Rich the Leech was wanting to nuke Brevoort from orbit which, considering Rich’s Marvel fellating, shocked me
>>152568572I mean even as far back as the 00s there was rumors that CB Cebulski is Rich's source for Marvel rumors
>>152566924Does Energon do blind bags and variant gimmicks? Because those are always going to be the asterisk with sales figures. How many books are actually selling vs. how many are being bought for speculation purposes?
>>152569075The ironic thing is youre seething so much you come off like a DC intern.
>>152567060I see what you did there anon...
>>152570034>no uPathetic
>>152567742That’s not going to help ASM at all
>>152570237It’s a cute goebbels tactic you’ve employed here but it doesn’t change the fact that parsing through some data/figures is a relatively normal thing to do whereas melting down that anybody would do such a thing while also ignoring what they’ve said is a pretty clear sign it’s something you’re personally invested in.
>>152567060too far fetched, real numbers must be lower
>>152568636shut up fad retard
>>152568636>I don't care about continuity that's why they should replace the continuity with another continuityNot making any sense bro. If you don't care why are you bothered.
>>152567365Fire Breevort and most of their editors. They keep having 50 year old men stay employed and fail upwards and they're woefully out of touch with what the average consumer wants. So instead they compensate by relaunching every 10 issues, having each #1 have multiple incentive variants, and throwing out a #1 for every character they can think of before cancelling at either #5 or #10.
>>152570464>thing thing everyone says is successful really isn’t believe me I’m smart please believe me you need to believe me it’s really not that successful okay please you have to believe me
>>152570803Dispute my breakdowns specifically. What is incorrect about these:>>152567689>>152567678
>>152570866>I did all this math to show everyone how smart I am see it’s not successful please believe me look at all this math you have to believe me please I’m really smart please believe me
>>152571249Why not just engage in a conversation? Why are you being like this? I don’t see why you’re so personally offended.
>>152566924>nancy spearsIs she related to Britney
>Skybound has reached 6 million sales>To celebrate that milestone megatron will eat a jew for every issue sold- Official Statement from Decepticons head of Pr,Skywarp
>>152566924Can you guys explain to me what the deal is with the "Energon Universe"? Do I have to read Void Rivals and Transformers if I just wanna read Joe?
>>152566924Marvel is so fucking pathetic holy shit.
>>152572092You dont HAVE to read them but a lot of stuff leads into one anotherTransformers kicks off because main characters of void rivals woke up a bot who woke up autobots and cons on earth which led to starscream killing dukes co pilot
>>152572120Energon has best depiction of megatron since g2 comic and absolute has batman aura farming with chainsaws during die hard situationMarvel has nothing beyond laughing at suffering of spider man fans
>>152567060IDW has been cooking with Transformers art and story wise
>>152567117>particular must be real mad.I was mad. Now I'm just sort of sad.
really puts into perspective how fucking dead western comics are, considering those sales are 95% from the USA99.9999% of the world doesn't even know who absolute WW is lmao
>>152567850Don't worry, they can always fall back on Disney money
>>152572169After issue 32 it seems we are getting focus on cybertron instead of earth so something BIG is happening on TF #30 and Void Rivals later in mayhttps://news.tfw2005.com/2026/02/20/skybounds-transformers-comics-solicitations-may-2026-558055Optimus helping the Joe's on earth dealing with the Cons, VENOM and Cobra seems to be happening since everyone is desperate for Energon.So means elita discovering that the earth is full of natural energon
>>152567558>Why spam?that's his job
>>152566924>not even averaging 70K sales >first handful of issues for each would have been much bigger numbers meaning some may be below 60K now>this is a good thing
>>152566924Now let's see Marvel Allen's sales.
>>152572946Sounds like it's still more alive than you are, bot
>>152571249>>152570803>>152569075>doing basic math is bad because… well it’s just bad!!!
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>>152577097We need a Optimus and Batman crossover with Prime as the Batmobile
>>152567144they buy about 40,000 copies of TF books at the top end and GIJ sells even worse
>>152568572fuck off rich
>>152569510Energon definitely does variants. I don't think I've seen a blind bag.
so for 4 bucks an issue, 24 mil in gross? Whats the net? 32 for dc seems a lil more reasonable but I imagine Snyder's getting paid a mil and Kelly probably 500
>>152577097lol she looks so pleased w/ herself
