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Was Sonic too harsh to Amy here?
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The Hero of 2026

Enters the Halls
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>>152573536
What the fuck does this have to do with battles to the death, go the fuck back to twitter with your retarded juvenile console war bullshit
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>>152573536
>CHUDnic the INCELhog
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>>152573536
Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Mario and Goku and their entire verses
Reminder Metal RAPES and GAPES Cell and Bowser and their entire verses.
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>>152573536
Reminder that Peach RAPES and GAPES Amy Rose and her entire verse
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icky vic
the stupid spic
tried to suck
a cosplayer's dick
got rejected
his axe wound infected
41% is his final trick
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>>152573745
Kwab, the entire series is just Knull playing into Hela's plan while Thanos is the one who gets to plap her
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>>152573722
... on opposite day, as not even Xittertroons believe this.
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>>152573745
Is Knull a good guy now? Why does he look like that?
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Predictions for Cell's preview tomorrow?
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>>152573989
>"Just because we never SAW Cell destroy a solar system, doesn't mean he can't!"
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>>152573989
maybe some vore jokes here and there
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Oh nononono not like this…
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>>152573989
Thought that was today
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HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE
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>>152574050
Based because a woman beat them both
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>>152574050
Why do Splatoonkiddies think they are even in the conversation? They are literally Sonic Fan's socially awkward little brother
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>>152574050
post the official manga panel where she gets her pants fully yanked down
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All characters with over 1000 rule34 images

AIEEE
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>>152574100
No, it's always on Sundays.
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>>152574142
>They are literally Sonic Fan's socially awkward little brother
NIGGA THAT'S YOUR COMPANY'S IP
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Don't mind me, I'm just looking at a fellow BETTER MAN who respects women, poc, neurodivergent, differently abled, lbgt+, and their allies.
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>>152574149
>she gets her pants fully
I tried googling that, but I was presented with this official artbook of marina
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>>152574169
Sonic fans are at least sociable. Squidkids are shy and reserved
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Fucking tourists keep posting ponyshit
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>>152574146
Hal…
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>>152573745
A stray MARSHMALLOW SPRAY for BARBATOS!
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>>152574189
>Makes such a hot, horny design
>Makes her a dyke
I'll never forgive Basedtendo for this.
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>>152574220
I keep forgetting that certain word that rhymes with "joy" gets changed.
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>>152574209
post Barbatos resisting possession
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>>152573695
Truer TRUTHS have never been posted.
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>>152574220
Funny because the only people who like her are the splatoon gooners. The LGBTQ guys are too hung up on their OC to care
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>>152574229
Billions of years of eating nightmare versions of M'Nagalahs and Starros and Dark Destroyers with nary an incident.
Barbatos is good for it, son.
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>>152574255
post them being able to possess people that eat them
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>>152574252
You kidding? They're super annoying with how woke Splatoon is.
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>>152574292
I had a buddy who had a splatoon discord. It ended with his admins/friends having cp. Young kids into pedophile
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Post cool neverevers
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>>152573745
LIGHTnull the WHITEEEE!!!!
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>>152574525
Nobody cares. Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse.
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Huh? My lie detector started beeping all of a sudden...
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>>152574331
Never knew Hal was into Splatoon
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>>152574525
FUARKKKKKKK!!!
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Your hero can kick a black hole in half, right?
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>>152574617
Yeah he can kick vaginas no prob
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>>152574617
You just KNOW she takes futa cock DAILY
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>>152574678
Lal'c doesn't really come off as a futa...
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>>152574617
My hero can make black holes
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>>152573559
You've been gone for a while where did you go?
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>>152574697
>>152574617
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>>152574747
Oh my god do dragonball fags consume anything else
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>>152574697
I love big brown futa cock
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>>152574734
Can he a make a whole bunch at once?
>>152574747
>DBS spic
>hasn't watched Gunbuster or Diebuster
kek
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>>152574772
No, that's why they think Dragon Ball is so good, they don't watch any other anime.
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>>152574785
Bleach is older than GoW, so it should be the other way around...
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>>152574552
TRVTH NVKE
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>>152574785
>Bleach - 2001
>God of War - 2005
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>>152574794
Bleach's lore wank is more recent since it mostly comes from the post-series novels and the anim
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>>152574815
I'd say Bleach has better feats than GoW anyways.
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>>152574820
Ichigo did canonically destroy a mountain sooo
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>Yuji: "We need to accept the literal Illegal aliens into our planet! And specifically into our highly populated cities! And we need to stop fighting Cursed spirits! That's too problematic, out Alien friendos worship them!"
>Deku: Call me Todoroki Rei, because these aliens are getting ICE'd
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>>152574820
Bleach I'll give some credit to because the characters in the current anime do actually shake all three realms and cause visible destruction with it. It just seems out of line with the power shown in fights otherwise.
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>decuck babble
Know your place.
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>>152574830
>I'm very disappointed in you, young man.
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>yuji's plan is to eliminate cursed energy from all future generations including both humans and aliens
>he'll be left as the strongest being on the planet with no one to possibly challenge him
The Cog won.
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Speedbros...
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>>152574875
If he was able to have his fist caught, he wasn't that much faster. A true speed blitzer wouldn't be caught so easily.
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I HATE SONIC
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>>152573536
You know, the Sonic comics are so gay I genuinely can't tell if this is fanart or not.
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>>152574875
>>152574884
Speed doesn't mean much if you can't do much with it. The reason why the flash is overpowered isn't because he's fast, it's because he has hax.
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>>152574897
Sonic is never allowed to be mean to girls
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>>152574220
I'd be more pissed at the dogshit writing past 2
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>>152574772
>>152574784
>consume moeshit
No.
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>>152574784
Me and the boys trying to watch any other anime
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How the fuck hasn't Gilgamesh appeared yet?
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>>152574784
All other anime is shit compared to Dragon Ball.
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>Wins all of his matchups
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>>152574946
Fate has always been kind of niche in the west, it's why the fans had to force DB to finally make a Fate episode
Also all his opponents are literally whos.
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>>152574935
Anime so good your only competition is yourself from the past
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>>152574958
Doom? Meet DoomSLAYER
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>>152574969
...to play the shitty games that suck ass.
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>>152574958
Not even close, lil bro
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>>152574875
>keep punching from the same two directions
>eventually the alien superman finally manages to catch your obvious pattern
Red Rush was a moron and should have kept playing support for the other guardians. They unironically could have won.
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>>152574928
>Gunbuster and Diebuster
>moeshit
dragonball spics really are deluded
Nono would murder Jiren BTW
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>>152574989
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?
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>>152574952
Nice low IQ take.
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>>Gunbuster and Diebuster
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>dragonball spics once again exposing themselves
why must they do this every thread?
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>>152575015
Only DC and stalemate DC
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>>152575007
If it doesn't have Jiren or any other character from Dragon Ball, then it is moeshit.
>>152575030
>>152575040
>seething
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>>152575058
>exposing his ignorance as a source of pride
spic-kun...
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Only googoo gagas care about Dragon ball.
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>>152574946
Too strong pls understand
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Reminder that Goku has no counter for this.
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Who cares, it’s Amy. Fuck Amy.
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>>152575074
...Who?
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lol
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>Dragon Ball is the greatest
Not even top ten of highest grossing franchises.
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>SHITren
Wasn't he the guy who begged Goku to ring him out after he got his ass beat?
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>>152575079
A more iconic and popular character than Goku.
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>>152575074
>destructo disc that targets even the cells of a persons body
TRVTH
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Who cares about any of those jobbers? Luffy solos them all.
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>>152574896
>Jeetrio is mindbroken
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>>152575074
Goku has infinite speed so he just moves out of the way
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>>152575074
>Discount destructo disk with even charge time.
He tanks no sells or just deflects it. Like has this even killed anyone of value?
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>>152575163
The destructo disk was already a discount Ultra Slash.
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>>152575137
Show Goku moving at infinite speed.
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>>152575163
Goku can't tank every cell in his body being pierced individually.
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>>152575174
see
>>152575132
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>>152575174
.....N-no, I won't. You can't make me.
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>>152575174
Base Goku can move freely in white space. (No space or time exist in white space meaning Goku has to be moving infinitely fast to actually travel anywhere.) Death Battle also gave Goku infinite speed in the last Death Battle.
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>>152575074
How does Naruto counter Luke doing this to him?
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>>152575198
>toriyama couldn't be half assed to draw a background
>makes it 'white space'.
kind of based
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>>152575185
So he bitch slaps it away?
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>>152575200
Anon... Luke Skywalker isn't black.
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>>152575200
Stop hiding behind Star Wars, Goku.
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>>152575200
Luke isn't based enough to realize that it's stupid to engage in melee when he crush people's heads/chest. Plus that version of the clone wars showed it's possible to dodge force pushes so it isn't instant
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>>152575198
>[HEADCANON HEADCANON HEADCANON]
So anyway, show Goku moving at infinite speed. Death Battle also had Kratos move quadrillions of times FTL because he put his hand up.
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>>152573536
>We cannot give Alucard catboy powers since it contradicts the nature of his story!

>Superman and Hulk (who is BBFs with Banner :) ) are always outerversal immeasurable speed beasts in their original stories
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>>152575207
And there goes all the cells in his arm.
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*taps the sign*
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>>152575232
Catboy makes it unwinnable for Dio and swan refused to accept Alucard having a win con
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>>152574869
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>>152575240
Not every strange ability is a hax. Goku is also notoriously not immune to hax.
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>>152575240
<--spics when goku screams and turns blonde
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>>152575236
Okay and what's Naruto's counter to Goku throwing his own destructo disk which can home in on a target?
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>>152575240
No lies detected.
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>>152575241
Tbf they said it would just be an inconclusive result so..
just make it a darn tie.

Or show the hypnosis ending where he forces Alucard to remove the catboy soul
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>>152575232
>we cant give Catboy powers to Alucard
>HOLY MOLY MFTL+++ DIO AND CITY LEVEL AP DIO? YUP TRUE TRUE TRUE!
'city level' Dio needed dozens of punches to destroy a normal road roller btw
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>>152575250
No, don't you get it? Super Saiyan is so cool! It um...it makes Goku blonde and...uh...let's him punch harder and...mmm...w-well it's really cool in context...

>>152575255
The same thing that Goku did when Frieza pulled that shit.
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>>152575255
>destructo disk hits naruto
>POMF
>it was a log in naruto's clothes!
anime ninja technique 101, nigga
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>>152575260
city level dio comes from the anime only cloud feat
and mftl has been calced over and over and its only for the punching speed.

at least google why he was given that tier
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>>152575262
Goku doesn't need to control them like frieza did
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>>152575271
They're still too slow to hit Naruto in the first place.
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>>152575262
I mean it is really cool. Why do you think so many series make their MC's get golden powered up forms.
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Honest question, why do all of you hate Dragon Ball so much? I've only watched like a little bit of it, but I don't get the hate people have for it in these threads.
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>>152575289
It's not the series we hate. We hate the refugees from /dbs/ threads on /a/ who shit up these threads. The Sonicfag invasion recently was an 'attack' from /dbs/.
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>>152575285
Because gold is cool, but because Dragon Ball did it.

>>152575289
It's not so much it's hated, but Dragon Fags are so annoying that people shit on Dragon Ball out of spite.
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>>152575283
Naruto in Sage mode is slightly faster than light going by him barely dodging Madara laser spit. DB accepts Goku being MFTL and his attacks are in. A similar speed range so there's actually no reason to believe Naruto could dodge Goku's attack especially when you take into consideration Naruto's equal Sasuke got blitz by a sub sonic child
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>>152575211
>he doesn’t know
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>>152575312
No I know Mark Hamil's the realest nigga around, but Luke Skywalker isn't black.
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>>152575309
Nothing insinuates that any of Goku's attacks are even lightspeed. Except Solar Flare, since that's literally just light.
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>>152575232
Surprisingly not even their most retarded reasoning
>You see this mega laser that kills this character in this animation?... well this character is as durable as that attack that kills them and is as fast as the laser they can't dodge
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>>152575289
>"GOKU SOLOS ALL OF FICTION!"
>"Krillin vicitm."
>"Get him past Pilaf."
>"Broly one-shots your verse."
>"Jiren is the STRONGEST."
>repeat ad naseum in a debate
Gee I wonder why?
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>>152575289
I just think it's overrated. I actually loved it as a kid, but looking back, I never understood why people worship it like it's the best piece of fiction ever.
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>>152575232
Alucard in vs discussions is lame because if the opponent can't mow down on his souls then they lose,and if they can then Schrodinger either makes Alucard win or forces a stalemate.
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>>152575326
This match up was one of the most egregious example of the research team being retarded.
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>>152575320
Prove that Luke Skywalker doesn’t have advanced full-body virtiligo without sounding schizophrenic
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>>152575289
Because he should have beaten Superman and they know it.
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>>152575341
I believe this is proof enough.
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>>152575339
Do you think Akuma or Shao Kahn would win?
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>>152575229
>all caps cope
Its canon. Base Goku moves through white space so he has infinite speed.
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>>152575362
Bro all Manga is White Space if the dude drawing it is lazy enough.
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>>152575362
>Goku moves through white space so he has infinite speed.
Says who? Your headcanon?
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>>152575240
>removes your complex hax
>also mind rapes you
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>>152575362
Why can’t Goku move through black space? Is he racist?
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Still haven't heard a good reason why Goku wouldn't just fucking die to Rasenshuriken, just a bunch of cope.
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>>152575384
Dodging it?
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>>152575382
Yes.
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>>152575360
I think Akuma would win personally. But I'd have to really go over the MK stuff again since I dropped the series after Lu Kang fused with Raiden.
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>>152575369
How does someone move through somewhere with no space or time? They have to have infinite speed or Goku would be a statue. >>152575382
He does in the original series and goes to the moon.
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>>152575384
Goku fires a Kamehameha and eradicates Naruto before he can do anything.
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>>152575390
He's not fast enough.

>>152575402
>"KAAAAA....MEEEEEE.....HAAAAAA......MEEE-"
And then the Rasenshuriken hits.
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>>152575382
He doesn't have the Pass since he asked Piccilo to help work on his farm so he could start training early.
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Name the DB characters
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>>152575401
>How does someone move through somewhere with no space or time? They have to have infinite speed
Couldn't you argue that without space and time there wouldn't be anything stopping anyone from moving at infinite speed? So you could easily interpret this as an amped feat.
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Kinda want a simple, stylish 1v1 Samurai duel match again

With old samurai movie vibes

>>152575400
MK in general is retarded in vs shows.
Fatalities are not canon and most actively ignore that Liu cant do universal shit without the hourglass

>>152575410
Saying Naruto compares to dragon ball in 2026

He doesnt even need to say kamehame by the way
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>Dragon Fags just making shit up to make their verse seem more impressive
Tale as old as time.
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GIVE ME A MOUNTAIN TO SCALE TO
I (won't) BREAK IT
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>>152575417
Bejita
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>>152575424
Kratos...
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What do the following Death Battle Contestants have in common?

Ryu
Guts
Goku
Vegeta
Bardock
Goku Black
Dante
Godzilla
Giorno
Tifa
Tom the Cat
Shadow the Hedgehog

Check the spoiler below for the answer!
They all fucking lost.
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>>152575417
Deku
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Reminder Hollow Knight charas are bug sized
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>>152575360
Shao wins
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>>152575463
Explain how using canon material

if you use non canon material then Akuma should too

Go on.
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>>152575410
I'm noticing this whole rasenshuriken argument hinges on Goku standing in one place for Naruto
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The argument for Shao Kahn scaling to Cetrion is shit like him overpowering the Elder Gods in MK9 and the like.
I don't like it, but you probably should have complained about MK scaling back when it was stealing wins it really shouldn't have off of SF or KI over questionable minigames and shit
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>>152575476
beat Blaze at the start of MK9
Blaze's power was so strong it could threaten all the realms
low-end interpretation of the realms is them being planets
TL;DR: Shao is stronger and get bent troon
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ain't shao kahn that tiger from jungle book?
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>>152575511
that's Shere Kahn
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>>152575485
I'm noticing this whole Kamehameha argument hinges on Goku's opponents standing in one place for Goku.
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>>152575424
FUARK! BEAST!
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You really don't see Ashgi salt here anymore
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>>152575522
nah, shere's that singer who sings 'turn back time' ain't she?
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>>152575510
Retconned, really.
Blaze never threatened any realm in canon
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>>152575524
>parroting
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>>152575536
>No argument
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>>152575510
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FantaRin_The_First/Mortal_Kombat_Time_II_Electric_Boogaloo#Blaze_messes_with_Clouds

also town level storm
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proxyfags are suffering
has the spam slowed down here?
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>Goku
>Naruto
>Superman
>Mario
>Kratos
Sonic speedblitzes and beats all of them.
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>>152575524
Goku can literally teleport behind his opponent with instant transmission. It doesn't matter if they move or not
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>>152575510
Post Blaze destroying a realm or showing power reasonably able to "threaten all realms"

Hell, this could be that he just goes into the realms and beats em up over time too.
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>>152573904
>hiding behind xittertroons (which are divided on that)
Xittertroon...
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>>152575561
aw, the poor hedgehog that makes less than big bird is here
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>>152575429
Omniman's victory was pure retardation.
Him, two more viltrumites and a laser that destroys everything in its path were needed to destroy a planet.
King Vegeta was capable of destroying planets by himself and Bardock was far beyond that with the SS1.
Also this is how the final boss of Invincible (someone 2 or 3 times stronger than Omniman) died
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I have the power to threaten all the "realms".
No I won't show how large these realms are.
No you can't see me destroy even a single one of them
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>>152573695
>Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Mario and Goku and their entire verses
>Reminder Metal RAPES and GAPES Cell and Bowser and their entire verses.
on opposite day, weak faggot
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>>152575506
Using minigames for feats is fine because other fighting games get a similar treatment, scaling to a fatality that the characters can't tank or dodge is just pure schizophrenia
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>>152575580
Isn't Super Saiyan Bardock literally equal to 1st Form Frieza
The 1st Form Frieza they gave higher stats than Omni Man's high ends no less
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>>152575598
>The 1st Form Frieza they gave higher stats than Omni Man's high ends no less
They didn't, the numbers they gave for him would still be too weak for Omni-Man
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>>152575595
You mean to tell me Kabal(the in universe speedster) can't drag people across the planets surface like a discount flash? Imagine my shock
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>Bardock still continuing to leech off others
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>>152575528
Thank God, we get occasional pokemon shitposting but that's about it.
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Bardock winning would have been way more fraudulent
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>>152575645
On one hand yes but at the same time Nolan being scaled to star level is gonna make Mark look like a fraud whenever he ends up on the show since he's supposed to be stronger than Nolan and would have died fighting in a star.
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>>152575410
Naruton isnt fast enough to do that. His Ki would also evaporate Naruto's Chakra.
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>>152575418
No? How are you supposed to move with no time or space? It literally makes no sense. To theoretically move in a place with no space or time you need infinite speed.
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>>152575670
shit is hot and as we all know
hot shit > feats
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>>152575566
He needs to lock onto a ki signature. No ki, no instant transmission.
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>>152574525
I can't believe they are still pushing Knull. Who the fuck is buying a Knull comic.
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>>152575699
The Knull VS Madoka guy
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I moved in an empty white space once.
Somebody mentioned Plato in my verse once.
My stats?
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>>152575710
>My stats?
imaginary
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>>152575699
The same people who bought the bat kek that chuckles comics
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The Rasenshuriken didn't even kill of Kakuzu. Kakashi killed him after he got hit by it.
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>>152575726
I'm pretty sure the only one it killed was one of Pain's bodies
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>>152575723
Knull isn't even remotely as popular as Batgiggles. Knull #1 released the same day the DCKO page of the Batkek fakeout happened and was completely overshadowed by it.
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>>152575723
come on now
batman can carry anything
he could even carry knull
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>>152575699
Cute girl.
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>>152574525
KINGnull!!!
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>>152575289
I don't hate it. It's just that the fans who glaze it to no end are annoying as hell. And it doesn't help with gokuspics try and depict Goku as this unbeatable force when he gets his ass beat many times in his own series. Toriyama wasn't a god of originality either but for some reason fans will jump you if you even dare to say such an objective fact,
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>>152575670
Mark is going to be fed to Gohan anyway as that's his most popular matchup with Invincible fans for some masochistic reason, he was always going to look fraudulent
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>>152575417
Mario fans.
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>>152575289
Battleboarding revolves around Dragon Ball and that breeds resentment.
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>>152575561
TRVEST OF NVKES!!!!
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>>152575710
Stageplay tier (you're Mario)
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>>152575726
It did permanently paralyze him.
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>>152575814
An attack that destroys anything on a cellular level shouldn't just paralyze someone (who was already massively weakened before Naruto even showed up)
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>>152575684
To add a moving object to such a space would be to add time and space to the area itself, no?
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>>152575377
it is dunking on Sonic scalers that say the same thing
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>>152575838
First I've heard of this.
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>>152575838
Sonic actually has infinite speed and that white space makes sense in the series. Goku can't even run snake way in under a year.
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THESE are your heroes?

Pedorio and Pedonic showing their cocks to lil kids in LA.
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my favorite thing from a previous thread is a sonicfag tried to say sonic has become more than a scrimblo because he's a 'multi media franchise'. my brother in christ, mario, donkey kong, yoshi and kirby are all multi media franchises, and they're still scrimblos
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>>152575786
I think the team said they don't like Gohan vs Invincible because it's too one-sided
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>>152575867
Oh but those faggots keep on making Goku Supes despite they think Supes stomps?

Someone needs to cap those faggots already.
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>>152575863
KWAB
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>>152575867
All of Invincible's matchups are too one sided. Who could he even fight that doesn't end with him seal clubbing or being seal clubbed? Rodimus?
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>>152575872
Because Gokutards keep insisting on a rematch.
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>>152575890
Because Goku should have won

The issue is that those faggots dont seem to care what they think are stomps when it benefits Dragon Ball
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>>152575889
>Rodimus
This is the one they've said they're most interested in and want to do so probably yes
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>>152575786
>>152575867
Gohan is fighting this guy
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>>152575934
I think Zero might have a height advantage.
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>>152575852
No lies detected.
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>>152573536
Tails
Tails
Tails
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>>152575944
Nah, Gohan can reach any height.
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>>152575955
…beat Luigi on Death Battle that one time
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>>152575944
gee ya think so
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>>152575852
If it makes sense, then how is Sonic too slow to stop the Metal Virus from spreading?
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>>152575955
When is the rematch?
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>>152575969
TRVTH NVKE
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>>152575981
Titan Tails vs Dreamy Luigi
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>>152575981
Death Battle has to do one million moe shit fights before doing fights people sctually want please understand and watch the Ruby episode.
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>>152575934
Who is this and why would it be better than seeing Gohan obliterate invincible?
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>>152575872
They always flipflop between stomps being bad or not, it's okay for Roshi to stomp Jiraiya but it's not okay for Gohan to stomp Mark. Sailor Moon beats Goku? Cancel the episode. Beerus destroys Galaxia even with pity wank? Go ahead.
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>>152575833
Okay? Well, it did, and it'd do the same to Goku.
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>>152576001
Ultraman Zero.
Ultraman's son.
Haxstomps Gohan because of cosmology scaling.
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>>152576008
Toriyama's cat is boundless.
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>Invincible vs Rodimus Prime (Image Comics vs Transformers): "The one everybody is thrilled about." - Sam. Sam and Erin say they like this, Ben and DJ are seeing this for the first time. DJ says it's the first Invincible matchup he actually likes, and Ben says this is "actually fucking awesome." Sam gives this a rooster buck. Ben asks if people care about Rodimus as a character, and Sam and Erin think he's an IDW comic original character, before Ben says he's from the original Transformers movie. DJ says he hasn't actually watched Transformers the Movie.
>Mark Vs. Rodimus Prime: Says "it kind of kicks ass" everyone seems to like it. Ben is unsure if people would care about Rodimus but Sam says "they will after our episode"
U like?
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>>152575905
>Still insisting on this thirteen years later
Goku just doesn't measure up to Superman, I'm sorry, kid.
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>>152576027
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>>152576015
Why didn't it disable Madara or Kaguya?
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>>152576027
He does. You just believe what ben and chad say like a good bootlicker.
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>>152576008
They also flip-flop on rematches. Goku/Superman got two, Mario/Sonic got one, Link/Cloud and Samus/Boba got one...but not Tifa/Yang which people kept demanding.
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GODimus shall win.
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>>152576042
Yeah because it's fucking useless
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>>152576039
Everyone agrees that Superman murders Goku except for butthurt Gokutards.
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>>152576020
Okay, not what i asked.
How is it better than Gohan obliterating Mark?
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Any good Pixar vs DreamWorks fights?
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>>152576052
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>>152576038
Madara has a healing factor, and Kaguya just scales above it.
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>>152576008
Name 1 connection between Sailor Moon and Goku that isnt "muh made up legacy"

Also name a single feat from Sailor Moon. You will copy paste something from vsbw because you did not even see Sailor Moon.
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>>152576057
I mean, obviously Tighten VS Syndrome. That's the big one. I guess that actually belongs to Shrek VS Sulley but I think it def got overshadowed by Conker
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>>152576001
Ultraman Zero. Son of Ultraseven aka the original Ultraman from the very first entry in the series (unless you count Ultra Q)
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>>152576052
"everyone" meaning your echo chamber.

Most agree Supes is a nuke level if not lower level character that is far less culturally and beloved character than Goku.
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>>152576077
Sulley should get Mike and Shrek should get Donkey.
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>>152576079
How is it better than Gohan Mark?

Does Ultraseven have any similarities with Goku?
Does Zero have anything to do with Gohan?
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>>152576057
Metroman stomps no? Unless we assume he can't pull off that level of super speed from the opening of the film in actual combat
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>>152576084
You keep telling yourself that, kid.
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>>152576104
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>>152576071
I'm not sure if you're aware the Sailor Moon/Goku Death Battle legit was actually gonna happen. The team realized Goku lost and axed the episode, though. Makes one wonder how many other episodes got cancelled because the team just didn't like the results...
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>>152576104
I dunno, man. Thats what the guides and the narrator say he is in most comics when he is almost killed by nukes.
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>>152575863
>sonic
that's shadow disguising as sonic though
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>>152576114
They canned Kirby VS Ditto because Kirby is hecking strong
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>>152576094
Fucking.. I guess them being the sons of iconic characters counts. Does anyone itt really want to see Mark get his ass kicked?
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>>152576114
>Lost and axed the episode

Aside of the infinite speed illumination feat, i wonder what the hell gave em that impression.

Not saying Usagi cannot win with some interpretations of Lambda power and higher end stuffs, but i doubt Ben and Chad remotely read the manga or the anime if they are championing GokuMoon.

Also source.
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>>152576129
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>>152576138
He does have better feats than Gohan, at least.
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>>152576138
Yeah. Also a retraction on BardockNolan.

Instead of just "lol sons of main characters haha x3" Gohan Mark actually have some similarities like being mixed sons of fathers that come from warrior space races that conquer planets and try to live a normal high school life.
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>>152576084
WASN'T THE CELL SAGA ABOUT HOW GOKU BLOWING UP IF THE VIRUS DIDN'T KILL HIM FIRST
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>>152576138
sorry anon but Ultraman isn't iconic to spics
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Most versions of Superman lose to Goku, the strongest versions from where he is able to fart reality apart beat Goku and Death Battle will use the strongest version or composite Superman from different runs and continuities into something that beats Goku. Or say Superman is literally real and that's that. Accept this truth about the matchup and you will be a better man.
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>>152576114
>Sailor Moon/Goku Death Battle legit was actually gonna happen
Beerus literally stat mogs Galaxia. Goku vs Sailor Moon is the same way, fuck off with your headcanon
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>>152576168
What the fuck are you talking about

That is a dub/filler only line that claims Goku would have died to first form frieza's planet busting attack. (aka planet level dura in the cell saga)

Superfags legit dunno what context is
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>>152576167
That's.. retarded. I'm sorry but everyone and their grandmother knows Gohan would tear Mark a new asshole. Give Gohan a MU that doesn't have a predictable outcome and isn't a blatant spit MU.
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>>152576138
The problem is Mark vs Gohan have a lot of similarities that even normalfags can pick out on the first experience so you have to go out of your way to pick out a less fitting matchup just so Mark doesn't get splattered
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>>152576054
it isn't it is just a different flavor of stomp
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>>152576196
>the Android designed to kill Goku wouldn't be able to kill Goku with his bomb made to kill Goku
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IIRC they dropped Goku vs Sailor Moon because SAILOR MOON was gonna lose with the Super feats, not Goku, and it'd just be Goku beating up a teenage girl so I'm not sure why this nig is lying
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>>152576187
Also there is no way theyd be making GokuMoon if they read the manga/watched the anime since then, theyd know they got nothing in common.

>>152576199
I mean, to death battle, they think Gokusupes is a supes stomp and that didnt stop em from making the episode.

Its suddenly an issue when its the Dragon Ball character stomping.
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>>152576168
You know that was made by a scientist who invented infinite energy reactors and shoved them into teenagers? I don't think it's a simple human nuke.
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>>152576216
Didn't they do Friezatron? That's an agreed upon Frieza rape and gape
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>>152576168
Seeing 16 was built long before 17 and 18 and the bomb was also built long before them? No since Goku and friends were much stronger than Gero predicted
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>>152576208
Yeah.

Not only this is GT Goku they used in GVS1 who surpasses Cell's solar system statement, Bulma stated it as a mininum, it could blow up the earth. Not that it was just only planet level.

Again, the bomb (planet level) being GT Goku's dura is retarded when that is the power first form frieza casually showed.
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>we can't do Mark vs Gohan because Gohan is universal and Mark is star level through excessive wank so Gohan would just splatter Mark
>we can't do Goku vs Sailor Moon because Goku is millions of times more powerful so Goku would just be beating up a JK
>we're doing Metal Sonic vs Cell, after we just placed Metal Sonic at universal+
el oh el
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>>152576225
they had to nerf Megatron by excluding his strongest form to give SLURPza the win
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>>152576079
What? So are Ultraseven and OG Ultraman the same guy?
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>>152576225
Yeah. So whats the problem with Gohan Mark being a stomp for Gohan?

Why did they suddenly just chose it was "too much"?

>>152576231
This

GokuMoon also is nonsense if you actually watch a single episode of Sailor Moon.
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>>152576225
Frieza wins that fight but it's not a stomp of you give Megatron everything.
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>>152576231
that just confirmed they're giving Cell his Bareback Biker form from the GT live show
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>>152576187
My headcanon of a scrapped episode? Why are Gokutards so insecure where a hypothetical, scrapped episode makes them rage?

https://youtu.be/s_qDCjEQuBk?t=474

They mention that initially, yes, Sailor Moon was stronger, but not anymore.
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GvS1 is horrifically outdated with terrible stats but why exactly are Gokufags pretending Superman doesn't consistently gape Goku when even VSBW admits Superman beats Goku each stage of the way and "sundipping through every star" Superman beats SDBH Goku now
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>>152576183
Goku is more real than Superman
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>>152576144
>>152576187
They said it on a cast, they considered Goku vs Sailor Moon in season 2 but realized Moon might win and thought that would leave a bad taste in people's mouths. In the same discussion they said current Super Goku would beat her.
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>>152576246
Ultraseven is the guy Space Ghost loves to watch
https://youtu.be/TLNIhF2WkRo?si=TaPRroWTEpJPYpBt
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>>152576254
initially? So they didnt even know about the infinite speed hell feat or watched any of GT huh.

Again, I HIGHLY doubt they even watched a single episode of Sailor Moon if they even considered making the episode.
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>>152576231
Ermm we can't do Gohan vs Mark that's a bit of a stompy! Please ignore that we had Superman as infinitely stronger than Goku in SvG 2 tehehe
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>>152576254
>We were going to make this episode when we thought we could wank Sailor Moon into beating Goku
>When we couldn't wank her past Battle of Gods we gave up on the matchup.
How does this disprove that DB just spitefully hates Goku and doesn't want him to win ever?
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>>152576187
Goku post Super beats Usagi, I'm guessing they made that episode before Super was a thing so it makes sense to me
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>>152576271
>infinite speed
Goku isn't "infinite speed" man, let it go.
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>>152576265
What the fuck is that reasoning?

Those faggots made stomp after stomp and to this day have not given Goku infinite speed due to the hell trip feat or read the guides that say the universe is infinite yet they "know" Moon would beat Goku?

Also the matchup is nonsense.
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>>152576279
>"Goku lost, so they must hate him!"
Why are Dragon Fags so insecure?
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>>152576267
SO they're not right? He's not the OG then, his show comes after Ultra-Q and Ultraman
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>>152576258
Why should I care what VSBW says though?
Regardless, it actually just comes down to what you see as more or less valid.
Like I think of Superman as typically less impressive because he is stronger or weaker each run.
Goku just gets stronger the further in the series you go.
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>>152576290
I don't know what you're talking about, this idea was proposed before Super even existed.
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>>152576283
He is

>>152576265
>When the dragon ball character wins its not good to make the episode

>Lets make gokusupes/bardocknolan when we are convinced its a Dragon Ball L stomp!
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Remember when G1 assumed Megatron was gonna get everything only for DB to go "lol it's actually only American G1+IDW+Sunbow" and even went out of their way to exclude Golden Megatron or something lmao
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Death Battle is just weird when it comes to stomp matchups and rematches in general. I don't know if the process changes or what, but Goku vs Superman gets 2 rematches while Yang vs Tifa doesn't get it at all.
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>>152576294
You didn't answer the question, you just made up greentext because you can't win this argument.
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>>152576294
Thry do hate him

they mocked him dying in the show in the ads for Bardock Nolan and refused to give him his deserved win multiple people have already corrected them on.

Goku wont beat Superman because he cant, but because death battle would lose their golden goose.
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>>152576294
>Have him lose 3 times against the same guy
>In the second match say he's NEVER beating him and everyone should stop asking such a stupid fucking question
>Make a third battle since your show is fucking dying
Gee I wonder
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>>152576246
Technically "ultra" is the name of the alien species that helps humans fight kaijus. Ultraseven is the name of the OG from 1967. Ultraman Zero is his canonical son. So yes.
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also isn't this ignoring when they specifically swapped out broly's opponent from asura to hulk and then had broly win anyways
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>>152576290
Goku got immeasurable speed in GvS3, listtroon.
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Um...I just want to see the Lizard and Killer Croc face each other because they're both big reptiles.
I don't care who wins. Just give me lizardmen villance.
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>>152576302
>Goku just gets stronger the further in the series you go.
*Goku just gets increasingly more retarded upscaling multipliers off the BoG feat
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>>152576305
the episode probably took research from the old G1 blog for Friezatron when the Golden form didn't exist
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>>152576304
>>152576303
If Dragon Ball wins via stomp = bad

if Dragon Ball loses via stomp = good
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>>152576320
He's not the OG though, this guy is
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>>152576311
You don't have an argument. Death Battle keeps gargling Goku's nuts every time they speak of him, you're just delusional.

>>152576318
They also said Superman was a dull boy scout with nothing interesting going for him, so they must have Superman too.

>>152576319
>"Goku lost, so they hate him!"
It all comes full circle...
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>>152576310
Ultimately it just comes down to if it's requested and would be interesting. Chief vs Slayer was a stomp but hugely requested and made sense to do since both had gotten so much new material. Yang vs Tifa isn't as requested and is fundamentally the same fight as before just with the verdict swapped to be a complete stomp and I don't think anybody really cares that much about it as a fight, it's purely for the salty runback.
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>>152576310
I think it's mostly if the matchup is worth revisiting for a FIGHT, not just the debate. People wanted GVS3 for a fight doing them justice, and voted for Chief VS Doomslayer for a cool 3D battle. Do mfs even think Yang VS Tifa is a fun matchup or just buck broken from an episode the team admitted was wrong. They're better off fighting new people.
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>>152576321
I thought they were originally going to have Hulk vs Z Broly, but then Superman vs Batman came out and people wanted the Hulk to fight Doomsday instead.
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>>152576325
And?

>>152576310
Because they owned Yang at some point in time. So they wont make her lose.
(also a mary sue within rwby itself)
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>Thry
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>>152576111
Explain how Gandalf wins without sounding insane
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>>152576340
>Still no argument
Pathetic really.
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>>152576341
>>152576342
This, every rematch that's happened is a common comparison which people request independantly of wanting to redo the results. Nobody actually wants Yang vs Tifa outside of revenge for Tifa.
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They gave him the same guy he loses to.
Three fucking times.
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>>152576339
Alright that's on me. Easy mistake.
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>>152576357
Okay, butthurt Gokutard.
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>>152576340
I mean, its true. He has no passions aside of "be good" he does not even train for his powers to stay sharp.

Hell, he only is a reporter to know where crime is happening.
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At least Goku got 2 rematches. Can't say the same about Ben.....
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>>152576346
Originally in season 3 they were planning to do Hulk vs Zly, but swapped it for Doomsday (they also considered Godzilla). Then in season 6 they planned to make the finale Broly vs Asura but swapped it for Might Might because they thought it was more fun, and then when it got pushed back they also decided to swap the opponent probably cause Hulk is just more popular.
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>>152576366
>Name-calling instead of an argument
Even more pathetic.
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>>152576361
Because Gokutards keep demanding the rematches. Maybe if they just took the hint the first time it wouldn't have happened two more times.
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>>152576360
Yeah, and whats wrong with wanting revenge when they used a character they do not own to promote RWBY?

Its bias.

They know making DB characters lose is good for the ragebait
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All this reminds me of Venom vs Crona where they said they didn't even know who Crona was and when they looked into it, they found out they placed Venom against the one person whose entire moveset revolves around sound...Venom's one weakness.
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>>152576384
it's pathetic
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>>152576381
Well, GVS2 also had sucky writing so ofc people would want a better way to end off the rivalry
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>>152576381
Solar System verse.
And all of gvs3 was with a previously amped Superman.

>>152576368
Indeed. If superman was actually beloved Multuversus wouldnt have gone down and his IP would be above Dragon Ball's in value.
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>>152576398
The writing was fine, people were just angry at the result.
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>Multuversus
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>>152576398
"end off" as if they are an authority or do not fuck up in the research ever.
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>>152576384
Alright buddy
Make it sound worth it
Shill the fight potential for a Yang VS Tifa rematch
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>>152576408
Both Superfags and Gokufags were angry at the episode tourist-sama
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>>152576398
GVS2 was a more realistic and correct version of what that fight would look like than the other two and Gokutards deserved it for being annoying spics butthurt and complaining for years about a decision everyone agrees with.
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>>152576419
Better animation, actual martial arts fist fight, throwing fire at the other, maybe in a MMA big stadium
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The logic for stomp matches is basically just "would it still be an interesting or fun fight". I don't see what you could do with Gohan vs Mark when it would just be Gohan continously powering up while Mark gets more and more brutalized. Ichigo vs Yusuke was a stomp and kind of a pity win but makes for a fun fight.
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>>152576423
"Everyone" agrees Goku is more memorable and valuable than Superman.

Again, your echo chamber wants to make you forget all the times Supes dies to nukes and guides saying he caps at 26 megatons or planet level.
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You can tell it's listroon clittyleaking because xhe kvetched about how xhe doesn't care what [insert anything] thinks despite confirmed to have a mental breakdown during GvS3 btw
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>>152576384
Just ask for Tifa to fight someone else and then watch as her stats are millions of times higher than what they gave RWBY.
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>>152576327
Goku's scaling has been stupid since Roshi blew up the Moon.
But the 21st WT is also an arc about Goku always having someone stronger to fight, so it is also the spot that establishes the whole serial escalation.
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>>152576423
Nigga even Ben and Chad hate GvS2.
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Look, gokufags, there are plenty of other characters Goku can fight.
>Sailor Moon
>He-Man
>Saitama
>Saint Seiya
>Simon/Gurren Lagann
>Sonic (yes I'm serious)
Just let it go and pick someone else. Does it really matter if Superman wins THAT much to you?
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the tranny spic is melting down again
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>>152576436
If you cannot think of how to make MarkGohan interesting, its more about you not being creative.

Hell, they made Omniman homelander and both have the mostly the same powers
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>>152576465
who the fuck invited He-Man
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>>152576026
No, Ben’s right nobody gives a shit about Rodimus and I doubt anyone wants to see Mark fight a big robot.
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Reject Mario vs Sonic samefagging ritualposts
Return to listroon clittyleaking over Superman
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>Tifa killed Yang in Deadpool vs Mask
>verdict retconned by the episode's description
>last RWBY and Final Fantasy fights underperformed
>Yang vs Tifa jobbed in the rematch poll
There is literally no reason to ever revisit the matchup.
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Surely this was solved when they put Yang vs Tifa as an option for a rematch people could vote on and it apparently got last on the poll next to Gaara vs Toph.
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Seeing Goku and Supermanfags fight while Sonic reigns supreme is hilarious! Those two series are dying while Sonic's just keeps building up!
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>>152576472
Kirkman gives a shit about him
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>>152576450
Yeah no wonder. They just didnt want their OC to die on an episode when rooster teeth owned em

>>152576465
A badly written mary sue that is so inconsistent beating someone that raised himself up thru training and effort does leave a bad taste in the mouth

also its objectively wrong.
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>>152576474
Fuuck I wish I could drink Victoria's leaks...
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Pokemon is several times more popular than DBZ and Goku jobs to a bunch of household objects despite being "millions of times universal", should we have base form Magikarp rape and gape Goku or some shit
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>>152576479
RWBY is probably done but they might still occasionally do a Final Fantasy fight whenever they have some big dimes match to offset it since the team likes FF a lot. Swan and Sam were talking a lot just recently about how they really want to do Tidus vs Verso from E33.
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>>152576471
He's one of the few characters that canonically does scale to Superman. Pre-Infinite Crisis Superman.
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>>152576486
TRVEST OF NVKES!!!
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>>152576225
They also ignored the forms Megatron had from JP material that were like the only reason the fight was suggested
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In what world is Sonic's franchise "building up"? More like building up to a retirement home
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Mark vs Gohan sucks because it's just one guy being a flying brick while the other guy transforms and spams ki blasts.
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Apparently Friezatron literally was just a pity win to give DB a win before GvS3 which is why Megatron got so little material
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>>152576541
Funny that DB got a pity win while Transformers got to eat shit twice
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>>152576529
Sonic and Sega is just the alternative Pepsi to Nintendo's Coca-Cola.
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>JOBhan when he has to fight an opponent that can actually put up a fight
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>>152576536
This is why I don't like Dragon Ball match ups in general. Most Dragon Ball characters are fucking BORING and just punch or shoot energy beams.
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>>152576474
I would rather have that then 200000000000000th Mario vs Sonic shitflinging fight.
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>>152576550
>Pepsi is far inferior and significantly less popular
Sounds about right
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>>152576541
Nah it's been pushed back alot cuza they were struggling to find animators with time for it then ended up happening in Season 10 which just so happened to have Goku VS Superman 3 as a part of it
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>>152576536
Mark lacks any kind of versatility, too. All he does is punch. What the fuck is he doing against ki?
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>>152576563
There's nothing quite like some annoying spamming retard to make you miss mildly less annoying spamming retard by the thinnest of margins
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>>152576497
Unless Kirkman pays for the episode entirely there's no financial incentive to do it, and even if Kirkman paid for it it would be another stomp against Mark because Kirkman isn't letting his favourite transformer look weak.
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>>152576510
>Tidus vs Verso
Would probably flop but I get it
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>street level fight between two bricks that can only punch and kick
Awesome!
>planetary+ level fight between two flying bricks that can only punch and kick
This fucking sucks so much man
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>>152576510
>they really want to do Tidus vs Verso from E33
That's just Tidus seal clubbing some french fag
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>>152576541
Alternity Megatron isnt standard
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>>152576588
Mark will be doing the lifting with the Invincible hype
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>>152576595
Nah it would get gassed up by Geoff Keighly himself
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Just make Future Gohan vs the Invincible Variants. It's closer and it has a unique dynamic.
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>DB wins via stomp = no episode
>DB loses via stomp = episode + sequels

and ppl wonder why some think they hate dragon ball
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NO ONE in this fucking thread even knows a single Sailor Moon feat yet still claim she is "haxed" and "strong".
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>>152576624
They said they wouldn't do that either for the same reason.
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>>152576597
Yes, unironically.
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>>152574747
>this mindbroke the thread because an autist thinks Gunbuster is a common household name
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>>152576641
She blows up a large planet with an energy blast like a quarter of the way through the series and at the end reailty warps the entire universe
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>>152576624
They don't want that either because again it's a stomp in their eyes.
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>>152576657
People just hate Dragon Ball, that's all it is.
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>>152576624
This one they actually did seem more interested in, it's come up a few times
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>>152576624
>sun disk got put higher then Frieza's planet destroying feats
yeah Future Gohan is getting gang raped again
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>>152576669
So you're saying...they...hate...weakling?
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>>152575260
DIO will get his comeuppance. From Sakuya.
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I think Death Battle needs to be more transparent on the 'Hows' and 'Whys' for how they end up deciding rulings.
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>Future Gohan vs Invincible War (Dragon Ball Z vs Invincible) Goes pretty hard, Ben really digs it. There is an argument to be made he is weaker than teen gohan but Invincibles are weaker than the original also. Kind of admitting who wins just from the premise alone “it takes 20 of these guys to fight this one guy” type reveal. Ben asks if any of the invincibles have anything unique that mark doesn’t have, or is it just throwing ten evil marks at gohan. Gets reminded the future androids are also weaker than the normal ones and gohan still struggled with them. Wouldn’t have to talk about Mystic gohan which is a plus. DJ loves mystic gohan but everyone else doesn’t really like it.
here's what they said
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So, are they staying on Discord despite the ID and face scan requirement and Discord's track record of losing/leaking that shit?
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Invincible vs Rodimus needs to happen just so they can this feat and have the fastest calc on the show be from a literally who
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>>152573722
lol
lmao
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Hot take: If all a matchup has is "muh legacy match", then it's shit. Especially if it's a stomp match because then it's just boring.
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>>152576678
Frieza's first form was 530,000.
Frieza's final from was 120,000,000
Also, they didn't have a high end for their First Form Frieza calc, and said feat was casual
Also Gohan has a Senzu Bean and even more retarded multipliers for that retarded speed feat
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>>152576678
Remember when tragg said 37 adult viltrumites could tear earth in two over time?
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>>152576713
Manga future Gohan is pretty weak. TV special Gohan actually put up a decent fight against 17 before 18 stepped in.
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>>152576699
I feel like the answer is just "they do whatever is popular and they find interesting unless it's so overwhelmingly requested they can't ignore it in which case they'll do it anyways", plus the occasional curveball for variety
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>>152576604
Yeah but people would enjoy watching Tidus doing so
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>>152576510
Lightning.
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>>152576733
Sakuyabros…
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>>152576733
Is Gohan Vs Mark even a legacy MU?
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>>152576743
Anybody interested in the episode in the first place would probably be enough of an RPG fan to like both I imagine.
I'm not sure Tidus would win anyway without Dissidia scaling, E33 has good feats.
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>>152576769
no
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>>152576597
No, because DB can't do interesting hand to hand choreography without being carried by big moves and acrobatics.
An actual good Street level fight between two bricks needs each movement to have weight and feel impactful, as a real hand to hand fight between to skilled men would be.
This is why I don't want Baki Vs Ohma, I don't trust DB to make an engaging Martial arts fight. Plus Gojo vs Makima already showcased their utter incompetence when it comes to adapting any fight style outside of fast paced DBZ brawls.
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>>152576741
I think that anon was talking about fight verdicts and explanations as to who won
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>>152576773
>>152576769
Its a thematic matchup
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>>152576773
then why the hell does /dbg/ want it so bad
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>>152576741
I more mean like, how do they decide the hierarchy of evidence that they follow and why.
Why do they sometimes interpret powers like Madara manipulating the tree as if it is something he does with attack force?
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>>152576769
Not really, it came about when Invincible started
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>>152576784
anger at Omniman
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>>152576678
>>152576737
The sun disk shit is so retarded.
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>>152576733
This. Yusuke vs Ichigo is a good example because while the fight was good, there was no reason for it to be a Death Battle because everyone knew Ichigo was going to win. It was just a waste of time.
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>>152576791
I would really love a breakdown on to how they decided the approach they did for the Sundisk.
There were chains of mathematics, physics, and setting assumptions.
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>Mark
who cares
give us battle Kino
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When was the last time Death Battle actually did a debateable matchup? Hulk vs Godzilla?
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>>152576818
Boros wins.
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>>152576763
Fight potential>>>everything else
Ben already set this in stone, it doesn't matter if the characters have a deep and unique connection, DB is about Powerscaling and thrilling fights, not about Fanfiction crossovers.
Sakuya stops time and throws Knives, DIO stops time and Throws Knives, that's more than enough
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>>152576816
The calc only has one actual starting assumption, which is assuming the disk remains in stable orbit around the planet and so arguing it's at the L1 point. With that distance they just used normal angsizing methods to get its size and the energy of it splitting apart. Everything else like the stuff about the planet's gravity was I think just there to argue it could be even higher than calculated.
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>>152576778
Baki would kind of stomp Ohma wouldn't he?
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>>152576818
this fight is funny since even before the sun disk shit Boros got stomped
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>>152576816
Its retarded when you realize they said an umbrella meant to stop the sun's light is more dense than the sun itself
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>>152576825
Technically Metal Sonic vs Cell is debatable.
It is just debatable for the wrong reasons.
It isn't about how skills would interplay with personality but rather just who is stomping and by how much.
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>>152576840
Its a disk meant to stop the fucking light from reaching the ragnars. It makes no sense they made it as dense as the fucking sun.
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>>152576825
That would be Dante VS Clive, since iirc someone on the team said it could go either way
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>>152576835
>"Fight potential>>>everything else"
>describes the most boring fight potential imaginable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJbatVYLhlo
>Cell Games technically take place after Broly (and a bunch of other miscellaneous shit)
Do you think they'll give Toei Cell the Broly galaxy feat so it isn't as much of a stomp and Cell has a plausible wincon with Zenkai boosts
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>>152576841
I genuinely think the stats would be closer with the way DB scales characters.
But ultimately Baki would rape because he would get every single one off technique he's used and there's a lot of them. And this is assuming they give them relatively close stats, if Baki takes either strength or speed it would be worse.
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>>152576825
>>152576862
It's Dante vs Clive, as presented in the episode they were even in everything and Clive only won via his stamina being a slightly better advantage than Dante's regen. The G1 for it was also only 1 vote in Clive's favor.
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>>152576876
Saying its only galaxy level is already downplay
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>>152576877
>Baki uses schizo dinosaur moves
>he actually pierces through Ohma with the imaginary triceratops horns
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>>152576876
Depends. Anything is possible with Death Battle and their ways of scaling.
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>>152576840
By assumptions I do also mean like... handwaving of physics for the sake of assumption.
Like taking this from the wiki with the episode transcript:
>DISTANCE TO L1 = 1,500,000,000 m
>DISK SIZE = 596,020,000 m
>DISK VOLUME = 1.0882e+24 m^3
>DENSITY (glass-based since it's see-through) = 2,500 kg/m^3
>SUN DISK MASS: 3 SEPTILLION TONS (2.72042878e27 kg)
>BROKEN DISK PIECE: 1.94595e26 kg
>DISPLACEMENT SPEED (70,854 km/0.25s): 94.5% Speed of Light
>MINIMUM KINETIC ENERGY YIELD: 8,641.8 Quettatons of TNT
If it wasn't for the fact that they used gravitational binding to justify Viltrum being of a certain size (using the body ring and minimum size spherical moons), then it would be less glaring.
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>>152576870
Fast paced Timestop Danmaku fight is a hell of a concept, what are you talking about?
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>>152576882
>an actual on-screen galaxy being destroyed
>"downplay"
you greedy bitch
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>>152574744
Workin on my thesis plus family shit
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>>152576876
Doubtful. The movies are explicitly non-canon.
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>>152576876
It would still be an insane stomp even if they give Cell everything including his GT incarnation because that's 'only' single universe tier while Death Battle pushed Sonic up to multiversal.
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>>152576898
Its 1/4th the living universe.

So, multi galaxy level

or 1/4th an infinite universe

aka infinite 3d AP
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>>152576896
Kinetic energy was used I imagine because it was also used for all of Bardock's feats. If you just go purely by how big the disk is it's 100x more massive than three planets regardless
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>both these characters can stop time!
Doesn't that mean those powers just cancel out and accomplish nothing since it's not like they can fire a timestop as an attack
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>>152575379
>gets raped and gaped by a bunch of rocks
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>>152576919
Its mean to stop the light of the sun. Nothing else.

Also again, highly debunked by the story since nolan was going to die on impact if the core of viltrum was not unstable and didnt hit it alongside Mark and Thadeus.

also..

>>152576737
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>>152576835
>>152576870
I'm pretty sure Sakuya and Dio do have a unique and deep connection, it's the fandom one that linked them since Sakuya first showed up and people noted her similarities and references to Dio
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Embodiment_of_Scarlet_Devil/Spell_Cards/Stage_5#Spell_Card_39
>Gense "Za waarudo"
>Illusion World "The World"
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>>152576916
why does 1/4th of the living universe (which is also infinite) looks like a galaxy?
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iirc they said when sakuya made it to the end of the island that she would specifically fight Heaven Dio
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>>152576919
3 planets x 50 ss1 multiplier = 150 planets

100 planet sundisk is not enough
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>>152576902
Not true, Toriyama considered them alternative stories and thought the anime and the manga are both equally as canon. As for toei they think every single movie is canon to Dragon Ball.
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>>152576929
It's not even a fair fight because iirc Sakuya herself is immume to time manipulation, while Dio isn't and his own ability was used against him.
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>>152576950
>100 planet sun disk
>Anon cannot into math
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>>152576949
that's even worse since they'll be wasting HAD just to make a fight fair when he has far better opponents
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>>152576929
Yeah, both can move inside a timestop so the fight is basically DIO having no ability vs Sakuya's 25 different time manipulation powers
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>>152576897
Isn't Touhou predicated on scaling and statements? Pretty sure Dio just feats mog + reality warp this entire match
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>>152576968
Nobody gives a fuck about Infinity Ultron from Marvel What If anon
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>>152576945
I dunno but that is what the lore and guidebooks say

the galaxies in dragon ball are quadrants of the entire universe.
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Is spawning Cell Jrs. Outside help?
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>>152576845
Prove it wouldn't be.
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>>152576969
I mean if they used Jorge Joestar DIO it could be interesting
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>>152576974
>Isn't Touhou predicated on scaling and statements?
So is Jojo, you could say this is a match 'Made in Heaven'
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>>152576982
No? They come out of him
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>>152576950
Dude
>the disk is it's 100x more massive than three planets
100 x 3 is 300
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>>152576978
I'd daresay no one cares about Marvel What If as a whole anymore
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Since Sakuya would end up fighting Heaven Ascended DIO who's fighting Jorge Joestar DIO?
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>>152576982
It's quite literally inside help.
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>>152576965
the sundisk is an umbrella meant to stop light from reaching a single planet of ragnars

>>152576984
Well, saying Nolan remotely scales to this sun level umbrella meant to stop a sun's light contradicts the viltrum feat and >>152576737
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>>152576994
Anywho still inconsistent with what is shown in the comics

>>152576737

and the fact that viltrum's stable core was gonna kill mark and nolan on impact if they didnt unstable it and hit all at once
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so does Sakuya resist multiversal erasure?
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>>152576919
My issue is that the assumptions clash with one another.
They denote the material as being as dense as glass, but also make it bizarrely vast in size such that the gravitational relationship that is keeping it at L1 would also make it compress into a ball.
In terms of setting assumption, they assume it is a singular mass solid structure even when it clearly looks machined and manufactured with its paneling.
Like the most direct assumption would just be to assume it is an autonomous satellite, so it doesn't need to stay at an L! point.
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the Death Battle crew have accepted the Sun Disk and won't be going back
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>>152576989
Jojo has feats though. The Sakuya vswiki page is surprisingly empty and her match (Touhou fans proposed) is inconclusive. It's almost like they know she doesn't have anything to go against Dio
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>>152576982
>Cell summons Cell Jrs.
>Metal either uses the same technique or uses chaos control and kills them in a few seconds
welp
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>>152577035
Its an umbrella meant to stop light rays from a distant sun.

>>152577038
Because they are retarded.

If they also were not biased against bardock, he would have gotten Garlick Jr Dead Zone 5D hyperversal.
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Cortisol status?
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>>152576982
No, but it'd make Cell a little bitch, having to call in reinforcements.
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Give me a planet, I’ll bust it.
Give me a star, I’ll pop it.
Give me a galaxy, I’ll eradicate it.
Give me a universe, I’ll make it my bitch.
Best of all? It’s all onscreen just for (You).
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>>152577068
Earthworm Jim…
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>>152577077

>>152577077

>>152577077
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>>152577038
Their back up ruling is that the fact that Viltrum required both being shot by the Infinity Ray and then rammed through.
So they take it as Viltrum >>> Sun because somewhere in the Space Racer description it says the gun destroys stars.
If you ask me, it more just seems like the Infinity Ray has exotic behavior depending on what it is traveling through, since the scene where it causes a supernova also leaves an asteroid with just a hole in it.
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>>152576982
spawning/summoning cannot be counted as outside help
see ash vs yugi
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>>152577044
NTA but Sakuya has feats, it's just that powerscaling sites are notoriously bad at documenting feats.
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>>152577068
FUARK!
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>>152576713
The fuck’s their problem with Mystic Gohan
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>>152577152
It's fucking lame. Even by the famously lazy Dragon Ball transformations, it's boring.
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>>152576818
This fight is going to be the 9/11 of death battle
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>>152576246
No. Every Ultraman we've seen on Earth are their own guy.
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>>152577140



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