Archie Sonic vs Xenoverse Gokuwho rapes and gapes?
Sonic lost last thread, sorry.
>so powerful he NUKED the thread
>>152582308That Goku has not shown up in a single Xenoverse game
>covers you with blank ink, erasing your name>now since you have no name, you have no powers>writes you a new name with white ink>'And now you shall be known as 'Faggot, the guy who sucked 1000 cocks.'How do you respond without sounding mad?
HE'S SO FUARKING POWERFUL!!!
>>152582308>Previous thread died before bump limit.>All while that Sharkfag let his pointless The Day the Earth Blew Up seethe thread up.Today felt like the mods don't give a single crap about things and allow some Steven Universe porn pics for a while.
>>152582396>resists it
>>152582446*writes him a name*>'Hello 'Mister Polio-kun'!'
>>152582308Archie Sonic is 8D while Xeno Goku is 6D, so Sonic ra- yadda yadda your get the point
Behave
Archie Sonic seeing both his comics and the games as fiction, if you even fucking care
The 70's TV show Hulk vs Bionic Bigfoot from Six Million Dollar Man.
>>152582452>erases it again
>>152582613hmmm... so we're at a stalemate.
>>152582584I remember watching a parody of the bionic man on the venture bros
>>152582584So Lou Ferigno vs Andre the Giant? I'm shocked that wasn't a thing at some point in the late 70s.
>Have Gohan fight Mark>Mark gets low-diffed>Have Gohan fight Ultraman Zero>Gohan gets high-diffedTough call
>>152582709have Gohan fight John so he can get anally-diffed
>>152582709Have Gohan fight the actual true opponent he deserves
Biggest loser in DB is probably the Power Rangers. Their one win is a literal stomp, while their Mecha matches is always a lost.
>>152582769Does Kratos' kid even have any notable feats.>>152582832They had 3 mech fights and only won one (1) street fight against a ninja turtle.
HONEY FLASH
>>152582894WILL DO!
>>152582887he has the feat of his arrow reaching space
best matchup for this sick, degenerate fuck?
>>152582991I fucking love Thragg memes.
>>152582308>at best goku has broken parts of the universe in fights with equally strong enemies or when fused>super sonic would have perfectly restored an entire multiverse if he wasn't interrupted by eggman>goku can't survive in space>super sonic can>goku can't beat any god and has become beerus's bitch>super sonic has killed several gods9 out of 10 times Goku stomps but when it goes super, Sonic wins.
icky vic the stupid spic tried to suck a cosplayer's dick got rejected his axe wound infected 41% is his final trick
>>152582308Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse. Everyone knows that.
>>152582994Why not Owlman?
>>152582709Gohan is for Boruto.
>>152583155Who?
>>152582887>Does Kratos' kid even have any notable feats.Yes. His feats are the same as his father's. Because he's Kratos' son, who can say he doesn't have the same power as him. Remember in the 2018 games, he basically did his own version of Spartan Rage. Therefore, he's faster than the speed of light just like his father.
>Therefore, he's faster than the speed of light just like his father
>>152583178>Boringhan that can't maintain the MC role vs Abominationruto that killed Naruto as franchiseNot worth watching.
>>152582991Nah Sonic RAPES and GAPES Mario and his entire verse.Knuckles RAPES and GAPES Yoshi and his entire verse.Amy RAPES and GAPES Peach and her entire verse.Tails RAPES and GAPES Luigi and his entire verse.
>THERE GOES MY HERO!
>>152583286Kratos was very sleepy that day.
>>152582991Knux and Amy are def winning those fights.
>>152582991>CHADdow and GODver conveniently missinglol
>>152582526>Archie sees his fiction as fiction>yet can effect anything outside it like mario kun or boboboSit down Archie troon, dragonball still wins
>>152582991Mario wins
>>152583533post Bobobo effecting anything outside of fiction post Bobobo not dying and needing outside help from 2 parties to bring him back from the dead
>>152583316All true.
>>1525830363 of those are Dragon ball tho.
>>152583179The badguy Batman of Earth 3.
>>152583509Who does Silver even have left to fight? Like, not just Mario characters, but in general? For the only real sonic featsman it's kind of fucked up how his only popular matchup's already been done for 3 years now
>>152583624An EMPTY packet of SALT for BARBATOS!
>>152583624KKKKKKKKKIIIINNNGNGGGGGGGnull!!!
>>152583620Does every character need multiple DB episodes? It's not like Silver is even in the top 5 most popular Sonic characters.
>>152583657You tell me, OP brought him up first.
>>152583689KINO.
>>152583620Probably someone from Megaman
>>152583620Take your pick of the future people, maybe Booster Gold for silver vs gold
>>152583533>>yet can effect anything outside it like mario kun or bobobo>CANGlad we're on the same page
>>152583945>Sonic quite literally BEATING his editor's ass>"W-well Mario kun could reach for a pencil, y'know...">Archie Sonic sees his 7D cosmology as fiction>"Just be-because we haven't SEEN much of Mario kun's cosmology doesn't mean it's below Sonic's"KEKADDADLEDOO!
>>152583316>>152583499>Amy>Winning On the sidenote, Reddit was actually shitting on Sonic friends because they haven't a major role in a while and doesn't have much features like no Super Forms.
>character rapes and gapes every verse
>>152584033I was going to mention Mario's Time Machine implying the existence of bullshit real life theories about the universe but I don't think that's canon to Mario-Kun
>unRAPES and unGAPES your verse
>>152584156>Scott McNeil makes gorilla noises for 25 minutes an episode, the series
>>152583737Axl?
>>152584132I-ITACHI-SAMA? PLEASE HAVE MERCY!
METAL SONICTOOOOOOOScellsura
>ducking CHADtronKWAB!
>>152584504>Sonicfags on Xitter saying that Ultron vs Metal is a close fight
The Comic Marvel Zombies vs the Animated Marvel Zombies, who wins?
>>152584523I know right? Metal Sonic easily stomps that fraud.
>>152582470>>152583533This is literally the same illiterate ESL posting this xittertourist feud
>>152582661Andre was more over than Ferrigno ever was, dude's only really known for Hulk after the decades
>>152583620Trunks was his best. I hate Archie Silver vs Xeno Trunks though cos it was boring aside from the swerve. Archie Silver has NOTHING special about him aside from scaling and a legally different Chaos Emerald and catchphrase. Boring ass variant. It's like using composite Deku whose only differentiating thing about him is that he can beat Goku via Jump Force. Aside from Trunks, Axl who's a boring proxy match.
>>152582994Homelander if he ever was to come back and Nemesis somehow gets relevant like Homander did
>>152583620Silver wasn't even popular enough to get a death battle if he wasn't attached to Trunks at the hip.
Silver RAPES and GAPES DBZ, Nintendo, Marvel, AND DC
>>152583620What other game series had a disastrous reboot? Choose that. My pitch is N from Pokemon.
>>152584728Ian Flynn says otherwise. Truly he is the gift that keeps giving for putting Sonicfags in their place.
>SoNIGS
>Ian Flynn saysThe mark of an unintelligent poster who can't refute Silver RAPING and GAPING his hero.
>>152584767Sure, I will play. Post Silver destroying a planet.
>>152584622TRVTH
>denigrating his own franchise's chosen lorefag for the forseeable futureNot my fault that Sega doesn't care about the rat so much that they let a fat gaijin from the ashes of the promotional comic turned unmitigated PR disaster handle whatever story mutts will chow down on while they invest their resources on bigger draws like Persona and Yakuza
Sega's HEROES...and Sonic...
>>152584831FUARKKKKKKK!!! CHADgry GODird.
>>152584831CHAD Frost, his vassals, and his jester the blue rat.
>>152584831Reminder that when Nights came out on Japan, kids were sending Yuji Naka letters about who this "Sonic" on the Sonic Team logo was.
soNI- ACK!
>>152584905They dropped 2 bombs on the vermin just for this btw
>>152584912>Had to use nukes because Captain Sissypants wasn't man enough to get the job doneKWAB!
>>152584986>jap cope over getting bodied by slavs, chinks, mutts and their various brown vassals to the point that they were considering unconditional surrender even before the bombs
>>152584986why did Homer do it?
>>152585023So Captain America is sub slabs, chinks, mutts, and various brown vassals? KWABOTY!
>>152585060He is a mutt, retard
>>152585060No. Are you retarded?
https://www.youtube.com/live/8_CXoZFNdUo>"And you know who isn't nearly as memorable? So unmemorable that they had to, like, redesign him. Uh. And then he got fucking trounced. Uh. Metal Sonic. I think that's his name."So one of the main people of death battle>Thought Metal and Mecha confused with each other>Didn't even know what metal sonic's name isLmao
>>152582308Sonic? Gokeks BVLL
>>152585148Sonic? STACYrale's copycat
>>152582308兄弟,我们现在嗨起来了,去他妈的索尼克粉丝,他们又一次输掉了这场争论。
>>152582308CANON Battle already said Sonic RAPES and GAPES him in Silver vs Trunks.Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Mario and Goku and their entire verses Reminder Metal RAPES and GAPES Cell and Bowser and their entire verses
>>152582526STRONGnic
>>152583138>>152583316TRVEST OF NVKES!!!!!
>>152583945>>152584033K, b, c
>>152584728>>152584767No lies detected.
>the most obvious case of samefaggingKek.
>>152582308The fuck do you even power scale these two? Neither series is remotely consistent.
>SCHIZOulk
>>152583268>Remember in the 2018 games, he basically did his own version of Spartan Rage. Therefore, he's faster than the speed of light just like his father.Can you post him accomplishing such a feat
>>152585235Canon Battle also corrected itself and said Mario gapes Sonic thoughbeit
>>152585431I ignored the tendie rigged pity win
>>152585235I ignored the tendie rigged pity win that was Silver vs Trunks.
>>152585474>tendie>Silver????
>>152585447As did we all.
>>152585447>tendie>Mario????
>>152585474As did we all.
>>152585496Ian agrees btw
EACH AND EVERY EACH AND EVERY EACH AND EVERY ONE
>6-7 (giving Eggman vs Wily the Sonic W cos Metal is an Eggman vassal so it still counts)>5-4 (Goomba vs Koopa is an intraseries fight and not usable for metrics) The score has been proclaimed.
>>152585557>6 >7
>>152585557>Dragon Ball is 7-8 (Gogito not counted) The next episode will determine on whether Dragon Ball or Sonic will be the -.500 RAPE and GAPE victim.
>>152585579Metal is likely winning if he gets the emeralds. If he doesnt Cell probably wins. Metal Sonic will be way faster than Cell so maybe that will factor in.
>>152585524Not canon btw
>glitches are CANON in marioHoly KEKYpoop. Sonic scaling feels so fucking TINY all of a sudden.
>>152585488Yes, Mario is Nintendo's mascot.>>152585524STRONGnic the CANON
>>152585615>Yes, Mario is Nintendo's mascot.Ah, that explains why he RAPED and GAPED Sonic just like Bowser RAPED and GAPED Egguman and Nintendo RAPED and GAPED Sega IRL- or should I say SEGA-Sammy-Atlus?
>>152585611what the actual fuck
>>152585618Sega Sammy, formal name. Technically more of a Sammy company since Sammy was the one that took over and fomalized the merger. TLDR, Sammy RAPED and GAPED Sega after Nintendo, Sony and even Microsoft already RAPED and GAPED it out of the console business to which Sammy had it whore itself out to the latter 3.
Reminder that Peach RAPES and GAPES Amy Rose and her entire verse!
>>152585606No way Metal isn't getting the Emeralds. This fight is obviously a pandering match and I don't mean that in a negative way. Bowsegg did so well and a sizable part of that is the utter domination of Metal in the fight and this is a rare occasion of DB striking the iron while still relatively hot. Just for actually reviving all hope in this new era of DB, Metal kinda deserves a W.
>>152585606Cell will probably be relative if not faster via multipliers because Goku and Pikkon's afterlife feat should get similar numbers to the Base Buu saga Goku calc they did in Frieza vs Megatron
>>152585711Post peach not getting kidnapped for the millionth time
>>152583945>>152584033>off panel shitPost Archie Sonic doing this inside his actual story like Mario kun or Bobobo can do.
>>152585127isn't he obviously joking here
>>152585801I can't...
>>152585786All of this just for DevilArtemis to shit up the joint with his pink frames once again
>>152582991>>152585711>Even Twitter agrees with this and knows Sonic verse is mostly frauds and his friends get next to zero screentime or feats.Another Mario w.
>>152585431Yep, sonicfags can only cope.
>>152585611isn't this actual hell when Mario and the gang fucking died?
>Twitter
>>152583624
>>152585884kill yourself listroon your fetish matchup isn't happening
Post cool neverevers.
>>152583624Knull is so COOL!!
>>152585235>CANON Battle already said Sonic RAPES and GAPES him in Silver vs Trunks.>Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Mario and Goku and their entire verses >Reminder Metal RAPES and GAPES Cell and Bowser and their entire verseson opposite day, weak faggot
>>152585903are they on vacation
Remember when Death Battle thought Super forms were planet level at most? What happened?
>>152585928Ian Flynn must teach them again about sub planet level only sonic.
so if an Archie Sonic character returned to the show do you think they'll change the stats or just keep them since Ian just said "no your wrong" and never elaborated further
>>152585915Idk this is just the best art I could find of them together
TREEEEEETTTOOOOSSSSSS
TRAAAAAAAAAINTOOOOSSSSSSS
>>152585950He said they were wrong on giving Silver his items but iirc he actually agreed with their interpretations on stuff like the black hole in Wally vs Archie
>>152584905My heroes hate j*ps
>>152586006Why didn't Superman stop WWII at any point?
>>152586012Superman waited for SHITrope to get destroyed so America's position at the top is uncontested.
>>152584649Silver is such a nothing character in the games that I legitimately can point to that doesn't seem more like characterization taken from the comics.
>>152583138Yeah, this
>>152583138TRVKE
>>152584812It is honestly a somehow more divisive situation than that.Somehow SEGA has a Lore Team, but Izuka also just says whatever he wants.They don't care about actually maintaining a continuity.They just want to be able to extract value in the form of fan service.
>>152585838This is also how almost every fighting game functions in terms of feats btw
>>152585508So this is one of the things I feel like Death Battle fucks up.They often distinct base from max power within their analysis sections and also within the animation proper.But within their decision framework, they only consider the strongest.Sometimes?I don't know, it is confusing. Death Battle sometimes express the distinction in the results section too.It is bothersome.
are your collective asses ready for today's preview in a few hours?
>>152585508He knows nothing.
As Fire Force approaches its finale, I can't help but feel like the nature of the setting makes it impossible to powerscale in any coherent manner.It is actually an issue I have with a lot of esoteric, belief-oriented settings.The feats are only capable of happening because of the medium in which they take place in, so what would a fight with a third party in a third location even look like?
>>152586165I dunno
>>152582308As a Goku fan, it makes me happy to know that Sonic RAPES him. Because Sonic pumping Goku's tight oily little bootyhole full of his hot sticky cum until it's red and swollen shut will give Goku more MOUNTAINS to climb X3
>>152586184fagnic the gay hog
>>152585524See >>152586143
>>152586142ZAMN cell will get femdommed by THAT?
>>152586262Dura-Cell will one shot.
>>152586124The unspoken rule is that unless there’s some really specific qualifier for it, they always treat it as if the character starts in their strongest form, because if you ever did a “their opponent just stops them from transforming verdict” everybody would think it’s bullshit. People are clicking on the videos with the expectation of both characters at their strongest. I think it’s fair enough
>>152586142I was so bored with this waiting period that I forgot we were even getting a preview today.
>>152586359I guess what I intend here is that it ought to be explicit.Otherwise there is this gap in consensus.I'd say this also applies for just how Death Battle applies its rulings in general.Like what makes an attack a timeline buster vs it being a technique that changes the past?
>>152584831Sega's ACTUAL heroes!
>>152586428simple is the timeline gone? then it's a timeline busting attack is the timeline still intact? then it's time changing haxif the timeline has been warped beyond what time travel could do? it's timeline level reality warping is the timeline destroyed but due to how time travel works in the setting? nobody scales unless they somehow survive the destruction
>>152582308Sonic outspeeds and has better feats.
Is Cell Perfect enough to beat Metal Sonic? | Dragon Ball Z in DEATH BATTLE!Metal Sonic is WAY stronger than you think! | Sonic the Hedgehog in DEATH BATTLE!
Dragonkek humiliation ritual part 10000 soon
Reminder that Kaguya creates her own universes, and Naruto scales to her.
>>152586496But what does 'busting' even mean?Is it the same thing as punching it out of existence?Or does Galactus using the power cosmic to erase a timeline also busting?
>>152586670Naruto lost Kurama in Naruto GT.
>>152582308Hulk kills them both.
>>152586690Okay? What's your point?
>>152586683Oh I'll teach you the real meaning of busting little man
>>152585799But SP Cell got one shot by weighted Pikkon in Hell, why would he scale to him
>>152586708He doesnt scale to that anymore.
>>152586728Okay? Debates like this are done with a character's peak in mind.
>>152586725well you see he wasn't instantly one-shot by base GT Goku when he got stomped so he should still scale
>>152586670They're probably giving her multiversal level because she can move dimensions with her eye. Kishimoto only made her move the dimensions to people and not the people to the dimensions to trap her in the final battle.
>>152586728Naruto only has the sage of six paths in that last stretch of the manga. People don't realize that he loses it afterwards when he returns the bujuus to the wild life.
>>152582308PFFFFT RAPES AND GAPES LOL RAPES AND GAPES LOL RAPES AND GAPES - every fucking thread
Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
>>152585235BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!TRIPLE TRVVVTH NVVVKE!!!
>>152584767This is true.
>>152586766Their CONSTANT peak. Kakashi didnt just get the second Sharingan randomly. Nqruto lost Kurama so his consistsnt peak no longer includes him.
>>152586975>Trying to downplay NarutoI know you're jealous because no anime protagonist made after Naruto reaches near his strength, but he absolutely gets Kurama still.
>>152586983Why? He no longer has him. Its disingenuous to give him something he lost in the manga.
Do you think Jigokuraku/Hell's Paradise could fit in Death Battle?Hypothetically it is an interesting power system (Taoist based martial arts), but so many fights are explicitly team focused.So would it even work in my Death Battle scenarios?There's also the matter of how strategic it is, since there are dampening and strengthening relationships.
>>152587003THISFUCKING THISGive Himawari an episode instead.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KM8nABB4UE0&pp=ygUJVGhlIHNoYXBl
>>152587003>Ignoring basic powerscaling rulesI get it, you're just trolling.
>>152587020uh.... that reminds me of that time GODnic entered my home and started plowing my wife in front of me for hours and with my full consent.
>>152585618>GAPED Egguman andBROWNRIOOOOOOOOOOO
>>152587026How? Again I use Kakashi as a direct reference. His peak involves having a second eye he no long has so he doesnt get it in his fight with Obi-Wan. Likewise Naruto no long has Kurama so he shouldn't be able to use it anymore.
>>152587042that wasn't Sonic that was me, The Blue Meanie
>>152587047He has another peak in a novel. Where he does some hagoromo level forbidden bullshit I already forgot.
>>152585838That's because the "Sonic vs Mario" debate is actually just Sonicfags fighting each other and this is just a way of them criticizing the side characters not doing anything since 2010
>>152586143TRVTH
>>152587042Mariobro...
>>152587051Yeah, well... haha I sometimes dress up my dog and call him my wife for shits and giggles haha... maybe you wouldn't get it.
>>152586578Correct.
>>152587078KEKAROO
>>152587020ENTER
>>152587078yeah I fucked him too
>>152587047Kakashi had the second eye for a few hours. Naruto had Kurama for the entirety of the original manga.
>>152587102This team? Would solo Bleach.
>>152587113yeah and now he doesn't
>>152587059Why do people like you always come up with these schizo theories? Is it too much to believe that Mariofags and Sonicfags are just beefing with each other?
>>152587118You're a retard, man.
>>152587135I know you are but what are you?
>>152587185ESL-kun...
>>152587119Because Mariofags don't care about Sonic's model, only Sonicfags do, but one of the popular slander pieces was Mario laughing at it. Tendies just consoom, not participate in powerscaling competitions.
>>152587193I know I am but what am I?
>>152587204I don't believe you actually think this.
>>152586143We're really bout to get another "GoWfags seething at a dev" kind of melty, aren't we?
>>152587258If we start just taking author statements as indisputable facts, then Superman loses to Omni-Man and Homelander.
>>152587102My entire verse can't get past them...
>>152587102Man, Cell is THAT weak?
>>152586670Zamn... an entire universe the size of London... it's so STRONG...
>>152587011Give them a team fight ig>>152587276Sure, I can live with that
>>152587276Jerry Siegal revealled to me in a dream that Homelander is actually high end street tier who Spider-Man solos. Omni is close but Superman faster, more durable, and has range.
>>152587236>anon has headcanon of real people
>>152587324>using London as an anti featThe wrath of Allah alone makes it multiverse/transcendal level.
>>152587398Steven RAPES and GAPES Jerry and his entire verse
>>152587412ESLruto...
>>152582391You're mentally retarded.
>>152587409Coming from the guy theory-crafting that all Mariofags are secretly Sonicfags.
>>152587276Well no, we don't have to do that.We can have internally consistent systems for how we take in evidence.An author saying a space isn't universal in size is different kind of information from an author saying their character beats another.
When is Goku vs Hulk happening
>>152587483Never, the Green Door ruined the Hulk.
When is Metal Sonic vs Cell?
>>152587518in two weeks
>>152587483Hulk lost to Broly who is weaker than Goku
>>152587435He says this because when Sonicfag was banned, Mariofag was also deleted at the same time.
>>152585838Yoshi is a scaling leech, and so is Peach. Luigi usually has better feats than Mario though, so it balances out. Wario's feats are just objectively worse than Mario's though. Bowser's feats are very inconsistent.
>>152587003Its better to include it so people don't go "But what if he had Kurama?"
Try and debunk this and explain why this wouldn't happen
>>152587546I think the main issue that Metal faces is that it has been established in Heroes and IDW that if Metal take enough damage he reverts to base and he loses his copied Bio-Data.
>>152586442...and the faggot from persöyna is there too I guess...
>>152587546Can you show Metal actually copying explicit techniques like that?
>>152587583Sonic Rivals is pretty explicit about it.
>>152587546then Metal copies Cell's Bejita
>>152587593...A racing game?
>>152587602It's canon and it happens in the IDW comics too
>>152587594>Metal copies Cell>Metal gets cocky and hits the pose>jobs immediatelyRefute this without sounding mad.
>>152587616Cell would do the Bejita pose first right after calling Metal Sonic an archaic machine.
>>152587602Uh, yes. A racing game that shows Metal having the ability to copy the abilities of his opponents.
>>152587611I mean like what can he even copy from that?
>>152587616Cell has Vegeta's biodata too so it cancels out
>>152587616Cell would also be subject to the same jobbing data. Likely even moreao since it is ingrained into him
>>152587652Ah but Metal also has Sonic, Eggman, and Shadow's jobbing bio-data.
>>152587651>>152587652well as we all know in dbs Bejita > Bejita
>>152587573With Super Neo I think it was getting fucked with by chaos energy specifically. Shadow is just a bad matchup for him in that department
>>152587656Cell has Krillin,Tien, Chaoitsu, and Yamcha's jobber data not to mention Gohan's jobber data with Vegeta's
Cell has the powers of all the jobbers making him a super jobber.
Ore wa... Supa Bejita da!
>>152587668Yes it is established as this in external media for Super Neo Metal, but I mean that after being defeated as Master Overlord his bio-data was corrupted again and he went down to base.It is, however, possible that Death Battle could rule that Chaos Energy and Ki are close enough concepts for a similar effect to occur.Here is the manual from the first Sonic game in Japanese that establishes the energy of the Emeralds as being able to provide energy to all living things.
>>152587669Well no. Cell only has Goku, Vegeta, King Cold, Frieza, and Piccolo's DNA.The dub adds Nappa, Krillin, and Gohan.
>>152587735I dunno if that is the best correlation. Its like magic buffs can be given to anyone when it is a separate thing from ki. Plus even Dragonball ki have different "types" what with god ki being a thing
>>152587765But cell knows the solar flare technique which is tien's technique
>>152587735>It is, however, possible that Death Battle could rule that Chaos Energy and Ki are close enough concepts for a similar effect to occur.I doubt it. Chaos energy is a tangible type of energy that turns hopes and feelings into power. Ki is spiritual energy. Ones connected to emotions. The other is connected to the soul.
>>152587797Goku also knows it.
>>152587656Only Eggman is a jobber here
>>152587782>>152587807That's partially true. Dragon Ball ki is multifaceted.In mortals it is composed of Genki, Shoki, and Yuuki.Genki is life energy.Shoki is harder to explain but it is basically your soundness of mind. Like a berserker would have low Shoki.Yuuki is courage.Your overall ki pool is based on these elements.God Ki is definitely distinct from normal ki, but we haven't to my knowledge gotten a lot of extrapolation on the how and what.Since it can be outmatched by mortal ki (like we see with Frieza and Jiren), it isn't something totally alien to the others.>>152587797That Goku used against Vegeta.
>>152587816IDW Shadow and Sonic are very much jobbers.
>>152587860IDW sonic doesn't really job
>>152587860Who cares? IDW is American. Only Japanese media should count for Sonic characters. Like using a Mexican comic. Comic for Mario scaling.
>>152587892That's a stance you can have, but it does have bearing on the conversation given that Death Battle is most likely going to use IDW for Metal.
>>152587102>>152587117>>152587284>>152587319The funniest part is that Cell took out a couple of them before they did their formation. If the whole group was together, they could have defeated him.
>>152584156FUARK
It's up https://youtu.be/7S4IJWiDkPU
>>152587907Cell was weaker than an entire football team?
>>152588013>the tittle literally changed mid way throughKEKYCHOOKY!
>Bejita thumbit's over
>>152588026What was the title originally?
>>152588013Well they gave him Tien and Krillin DNA.
Hey, I know this guy!
>>152588052"Cell is WAY stronger than you think" or something along those lines.
>>152588053is that from the guidebooks?
>>152588063Way scarier I believe.Anyways the algorithm does this.Uploader sets a few titles and thumbnails and then can watch the rates on the video and swap as needed.
Has any fighter with the "way stronger than you think" preview title ever won
Someone give me a TDLR on the video.
>>152588052This
>>152588086It's over
>>152588082>he doesn't remember
>>152588013>teleporting by locking onto a living being's ki signature so how is this ability going to be useful against Metal. He's not alive and he doesn't possess ki.
>>152588026They do this all the time, youtube has a feature for swapping out titles and thumbnails to see which ones do best
>>152587892TRVTH NVKE
>>152588053>>152588065It's from the anime, so they're definitely giving him Toei stuff
>>152588065I have no idea where it is from. >>152587765Here is all the ones that are specifically mentioned in the two main medias.
>>152588109Even when metal gets his hands on Ki he'd be functioning like android 17 and 18 so instant transmission wouldn't work on him.
>Toei Cell being used>mentioned stuff from the super mangaok that helps him a little
>>152588162Does it though? It still ultimately just comes down to what they give Metal.
>>152588084>Background history>Has skills of the Zi fighters including Tien, Krillin etc>Regen + Zenkai boost effectively make him the ultimate warrior and able to jump levels of power. Also Saiyan ability to get more powerful mid fight in general>Can survive in space
>>152588185It probably won't be like, multiverse versus solar system buster. They might even them out at universal or something. Bio data copying and chaos control is just going to shit on Cell no matter what
>>152588185We already know what they're giving Metal. All powers, all forms, 73 quadrillions FTL, and vaguely multiversal AP, they might tweak the numbers a bit to make the fight seem closer but this is what they actually believe
Yep Cell's winning this easy
What a pathetic analysis preview. Cellfags are in for a rude awakening in two weeks...
>>152588205>>152588286I put this wrongly.What I should have said is that how you view this match up in general entirely comes down to what you believe applies to Metal Sonic.If you only buy planetary Super forms, then Metal is cooked.If you buy universal+ Super forms, then Cell is cooked.If you buy Sonic getting stronger than his Super form of earlier games on top of the universal+, then Cell is ash.
>>152588347>If you only buy planetary Super forms, then Metal is cooked.Cell died to a Kamehameha blast that wasn't even planetary. It hit the Earth and the planet was totally fine. Even the area around them was good.
All I got from the preview is that GODulk would kill them both easily.
>>152588381You mean the Kamehameha that blasts off the planet after it obliterates cell?
>>152588381And the Space Colony ARK could destroy Earth with all 7 of them. Cell is getting obliterated.
>>152582526Too bad Archie(IDW?) never owned Sonic and don't get to make such big decisions on what is canon. lmao.
surprised nobody has mentioned how they tied Cell's regeneration to his stamina meaning if he gets worn out he'd be unable to regenerate
>>152588406Yes, the one that hit the planet and did no major damage to it.
>>152588415I mean the only time I think we see him tired out is after regenning from nearly dying to Gohan when he tries blowing up the planet the first time after Gohan started beating his ass. I think they're extrapolating that since his regen comes from Piccilo's and piccolo most certainly uses up stamina to heal that the same should apply to Cell.
>>152588381I see. So in your framework, we should only go off of the lowest interpretation based on what we can see.Correct?So Super forms are even less than planetary for you?Dang, I wouldn't have gone that far.
>>152588416The beam clash that wasn't directed at the planet?
>>152588454Nope, Metal is way above planetary, so Cell is fried.
>>152588381No it's stated by WoG to be solar system level. Meanwhile Metal Sonic is the sub planetary one according to WoG.
RAPEY GAPEY YEP YEP!
>>152588411>In another timeline, Knuckles as Enerjak is canon.Dear God...
>>152588460The blast that hits the planet, yes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jNzoX5Of0I
>>152588476Forgot picrel.
Green retard.
>>152588478Where is it hitting the planet here exactly?
>>152588476>>152588482We missed out on Knuckles' kino.
>>152588483>yoda out of NOWHERE
Red Faggot.
>>152588415Cell is part namekian, Namekians use up stamina to heal and are seen being tired after using it so ergo Cell would also use of stamina. Except that gets completely tossed away after his self-destruction and comes back stronger and with basically no loss in stamina. Seems a bit inconsistent since the other times her heals as perfect cell he basically no cells the supposed stamina loss up untill the one where he tries rage quiting against Gohan's and tries a Kamehameha aimed at the planet and then getting btfo'd
>>152588511Fucking auto correct. He* and no sells*
>>152588511Toriyama really wanted Gohan to kill cell, so it had to happen. Although Gohan being forced to be the hero after realizing he got his father killed would've been amazing for a shounen.
>>152588463But how? We see his strongest form in the games taken out by Shadow hitting debris into him.
>>152588535That was a black doom enhanced shadow
>>152588338No lies detected.
>>152588547Were those Black Doom Enhanced debris?
>>152588463Trvth
>>152588530I know that it's just I can already see people bitching about the stamina thing since it basically only happens once for cell. Also yeah it would have been a good moment
FVAAAAAAAAAAAAAARKSHE'S SO POWERFVL
>>152588547His strongest attack in both Heroes and Shadow is also throwing little boats at them.
>>152588556They were thrown by a much stronger shadow so they would've been strong enough to hurt him.
>>152588561As a type moon fag I hate the stat sheets so much for power scaling. Saber has the same agility rank as the Dioscuri who can achieve light speed movement which isn't completely breaks a lot of what happens in the og visual novel
>>152588581They weren't thrown, they are just rammed into.So the debris have to be strong enough to survive being launched by Shadow.But since they are just debris, --Man, how do you all keep up the bad faith arguments so long. I just get exhausted.
>>152588530Goku should have stayed dead.
>>152588593Blame the editor and fans
>>152588606all rumors, it was Toriyama
>>152588592Your argument style is weak. You need to learn that it's not about being right or wrong it's about believing you're right.
>>152588590Nothing outside of FSN and FHA is canon
>>152588618But anon, the mobile game is canon.
>>152588511The regen uses stamina but as the characters got stronger it became less of an issue. Piccolo in the Buu arc regenerates from being a shattered statue and he doesn't look fatigued at all.
I JOBBED again....
>>152588635... I do not remember that shit at all. Got a clip? cause that sounds absurd
The Rasenshuriken would cripple Cell in a single hit, by the way.
>>152588656Dabura spat on Piccolo and turned him to stone, then Goten and Trunks break him by accident.
>>152588615I don't care about that stuff.I just care about being correct within my own framework.That being said:I see Sonic scaling as a categorical error a lot of the time.Solaris eating dimensions for lunch doesn't really translate to his attacks involving just opening a dimensional rift to shoot rocks.So I don't really want to give Solaris (and anyone that scales from him) dimensional durability.
>>152588643No you didn't. You're a winner and don't you ever forget it. You look good today.
>>152588675Anon most powerscaling is categorically wrong. It's narrative first usually.
>>152588643Mario...
>>152588635Cell actually regains power after a zenkai boost because of his biology. He can theoretically blow himself up or Kaioken his body into an infinite Zenkai boost loop.
>>152588666The rasenshuriken that never killed anyone of importance ever?
>>152588713He could but his ego wouldn't allow that kind of cheating.
>>152588719The Rasenshuriken that attacks cells on an individual level, which no one in Z has a counter against.
>>152588666
>>152582308>Literally Sonic fans nowhttps://files.catbox.moe/suljjb.mp4
>>152588724Post the Rasenshuriken killing Kakuzu after attacking all his cells on an individual level
>catboxnot clicking that shit
>>152588724Can you post the Rasenshuriken actually killing an important character who has regen
>>152588736I never said it'd kill. I said cripple.
>>152588747How? He can rip the limb off and regenerate. It would also make him stronger.
>>152588745Kakazu
>>152586670Naruto doesnt exist
>>152588757Because his individual cells are killed and can't regenerate.
>>152588765
>>152588747It didn't even destroy Kakuzu's fucking body mate, the "cell destroying" of the Rasenshuriken was only dangerous because it could cut you chakra flow or whatever. But ki doesn't flow through your body, a fucking coffee candy could use ki. Also Naruto had like godly regen so I'm not even sure why Tsunade was so worried about him, maybe she was just retarded.
what if I cut Cells limbs off and then open portals where they used to be?
>>152587888
Even if the Rasenshuriken wouldn't work, Naruto solos Z as a whole anyway. He's galaxy level at a bare minimum and no one in Z scales close to that.
>>152588724>No one in ZBuu came back after being completely obliterated by Vegeta >>152588758The same Kakazu who survived the Rasenshuriken?
>>152588767But it didn't even kill the individual cells of a heavily crippled Kakuzu?
>>152588734Why do you have this saved Mariobro?
>>152588767>His individual Cells are killed and can't regenerate He god disintegrated from his torso up and regen'd just fine, what the fuck are you talking about
>>152588767His top half got blown off and he still regenerated. Dont see how it would be an issue.
>>152588666Doesnt exist
>>152588779>jobbing to fodderSonic from the game gear version of Sonic 1 could beat IDW only Sonic
>>152588772
>>152588689You're totally correct. Narrative fiat is literally always on the table.But I don't know, I feel like it is important to be able to engage in some form of pointless arguing.It helps build out your reasoning abilities, especially if you can explain the routes for why you believe certain things over others.It is also good for internal consistency.But maybe I'm overthinking it.
ENOUGH!
when will Boruto get an episode?
>>152588790>>152588791He wasn't hit by an attack that works on a cellular level (no one in DBZ has a technique this powerful)
>>152588776He grows new limbs? Like unless there's something special about them opening portals wouldn't stop him from healing
>>152588779So is Sonic's danger sense from CD not canon
>>152588787Yes, that's literally how the technique works.
>>152588812Writers a majority of the time try to seek internal consistency but will forsake that for themes. It happens in every kind of creative endeavor, especially if you're the person creating something for others to enjoy. Engaging with power scaling is complicated because most authors don't think about it unless it's a more modern creator, usually.
>>152588822his limbs will be stuck in the other side
>>152588821Do you think a cell being vaporized is not the cell being destroyed?
>>152588821Buu can regenerate from being turned into smoke and got killed by a ki attack, what the fuck are you saying? I genuinely think you are retarded on the mind. Cell doesn't even say "I can survive as long as my Cells are intact" he says he can survive as long as ONE cell is intact, meaning the others get destroyed. Are you fucking stupid?
>>152588821DBZ style disintegration > Naruto's cell destroying attack that never killed anyone
>>152588843I don't know if you know this anon but Kakuzu wouldn't have a body if it killed all his cells.
>there's an actual Narutard here
>>152588849Is there something stopping him from flying away from the portals?
You deserve the raping and gaping Luffy will deliver to your verse this year
>>152588864This is why Luffy will win and permanently turn Naruto into Naruko when they fight.
>feminization out of NOWHEREYour hero?
>>152588891Naruto of course!
>>152588891Sonic the hedgehog of course!
>>152588482It’s the best super form Knuckles ever had
>>152588862It pierced and paralyzed him, small needles destroying the insides of the cells. What do you call that?
>>152588913Internal damage. Anon. Your skin and hair are made of cells.
>>152588891Mario!
>>152588827Fucking duh, where was his sneeze Spider sense when this happened?
>>152588891Naruto already feminized himself, so it's not really a big difference.
Sonic 06 is what turned Sonic white btw. He used to be an honorary and real nigga before that.
>>152588935I don't know but god that ability would have been useful long ago if sega wasn't gay
>>152588918Since you need it spelled out for you.
>>152588821This might be the single most retarded brownoid to have ever entered these threads, it could even be Tolejostar himself
>>152588935Look everybody, Sonic's GODLY precognition that sonicfags swear MOGS Ultra Instinct!
>>152588970Show me a single attack in DBZ said to have cellular destroying effects.
>>152588976No one even claimed he had it, retard. I just pointed out an inconsistency and bad writing
>>152588970>This might be the single most retarded brownoid to have ever entered these threadsSo your average Naruto fan?
>>152588991Literally any ki blast that has vaporized something, hell the kamehameha destroyed every cell of Cell.
>>152588891Ranma!
>>152582308Aiee
>>152588682thanks
>>152588995Not talking about the people here, the guy making that good looking Sonic vs Goku comic genuinely has the Sonic sneeze at the same level as UI in the comic
>>152589009Then I'm sure you can show us all the page where it says the Kamehameha destroys things on a cellular level.
>Cirno"900, 10 to... *Counts with her fingers* one, and rising. That's the odds.">Cirno runs at Jack Frost with a sword and gets instantly obliterated>Cirno"A chance to nullify the madness behind the monster">Cirno resurrects and dies again and again, resurrecting each time>Cirno"Two plus two is nine, a right angle is 99 degrees, his powers are unlike any yokai has seen before...">Cirno fires a massive ice pillar, only for Jack Frost to absorb it and throw it back at her, impaling her in the chest>Cirno"One hundred">Cirno dies>Cirno"Fifteen">Cirno resurrects>Cirno"Fifty!">Cirno dies>Cirno"Nine!">Cirno resurrects>Suddenly Cirno manages to move the battle to an area with enough energy... Summer energy...>Cirno"I JUST NEED ONE!">Ice sign: [Cool Sunflower]>After absorbing Cirno's summer infused Ice the summer essence is released inside Jack Frost creating a huge sunflower that bursts out of their chest>The icy landscape disappears alongside Jack Frost, leaving only a hot summer and a chilly sunflower>Cirno"Heh... I did it... *Looks at the sunflower* we did it...">K.O!
The rasenshuriken destroys your cells thing doesn't even matter past the Kakazu fight. Kishimoto barely thought out anything in Naruto.
>>152588991What do you think happens when you disintegrate something?
>>152588976This didn't even hurt Sonic. There's no reason to dodge it.
The rasenshuriken does nothing to Kaguya so why would it do anything to anyone stronger than Naruto?
>>152589037Cell can regenerate from a single cell, Gohan vaporizes him, he doesn’t come back. Ergo you’re a retard
>>152588991Here's Buu regenerating after he got turned into smoke, by ki blasts
>>152589057>Cell can StatementYou lost.>>152589056Kaguya has on screen universal feats which is more than anything anyone in DBZ has.
>>152589080Kaguya has no feat of tanking the Rasenshuriken so there's no reason to believe she could survive it. So why doesn't Naruto use it on her?
> has Tien’s dnaIs Cell into BBC?
>>152589101Did you make a blatantly false statement, so you could reply to yourself?
>>152589022>>152589038kill yourself listroon
Well done beating that Solar System guy, Metal.I am sure it was tough.Now, how about we give the audience a proper show?
>>152582308
>>152589142fineMetal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla
>>152589151He has a typePoor Amy...
Well done beating that Solar System guy, Metal.I am sure it was tough.Now, how about we give the audience a proper show?*Passively Elf-turns Metal into a lil mettol enemy*
>>152589182fineMetal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla
>>152589159>>152589193>Fight metal Sonic also loses
>>152589208...on opposite day
>>152589208did I say he would win?
>>152589214Metal RAPES and GAPES Mechagodzilla and his entire verse
Well done beating that Solar System guy, Metal.I am sure it was tough.Now, how about we give the audience a proper show?GRAAAAAAWWWWRRRR
>>152589247ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GOD DAMN MIND
>>152589213Which is every day
Let's-a go. Mario Time!
>>152589247TRVTH NVKE
>>152589247Dude, the 70's Mechagodzilla wins, easily.https://youtu.be/WbuJ9FRm2zs?si=UmDwIuXnCjopMJoe&t=127
>>152589118Not funny.
>>152589053Sonic tried to attack it after that and still got speedblitzed to the ground.
>>152589295didn't he dodge it?
Naruto and Sonic won this thread.
>>152589286Post Mechagodzilla destroying a mountain
>>152589151gay asexual sonic never kissed any of these people (without being a rotting corpse)
>>152589310https://youtu.be/XbuHMKEyIg4?si=v59RH3--pYXl8Vbu&t=29Next?
>>152589283Omniversal bvllrio.
>>152589310he chopped one during his fight with King Caesar but it was a pretty small one
>>152589327Small? It was fucking taller than Mechagodzilla and King Caesar.
>>152589317>Split a 50 meter hill in halfwow, now post him destroying A. MOUNTAIN.
>>152589304he got speedblitzed twice by the sandwich and never ended up breaking it even when trying to attack
>>152589343>50 meter hillKing Caesar himself is 50 meters and he could stand behind it with no issue. That's a mountain.
>>152589336yes and he's 160 feet tall, smaller then the average mountain and the Empire State Building
>>152589364That's 'hill' is twice the size of King Caesar, if he could STAND BEHIND IT with out crouching.
>>152589350Mountains are at the very least 300 meters tall, that was an absurdly thin hill, and he only split it. Now post Mechagodzilla destroying a mountain.
50 MPH Man beats any Umamusume in a racehttps://youtu.be/HLI2-kYMUEE?si=Ru08ozhyNDtMmIhe
>>152589343Do you not know how tall Godzilla monsters are?
Btw, Metal Sonic was originally Mecha-Sonic, and looked like this.
>>152589382I know it's you listroon
>>152589371It's literally smaller than a building, I've seen Godzilla and Mechagodzilla destroy fucking buildings before. Now post Mechagodzilla destroying A MOUNTAIN.
>>152589374Dickhead, there's a mountain, a literal mountain, in Japan that's only 9 feet tall. It's called a Mountain. It's labeled as a mountain on maps. But hey, keep moving that goal post.
MOUNTAIN SIZED TWIN TOWERSTOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!
>>152589395You saw the 100 meter tall Mechagodzilla and Godzilla destroy buildings, probably. That's Okinawa. That's a mountain, fatfuck.>>152589401Cookie Monster did it first.
>>152589395You're just gonna say he's weak no matter what, because you're just a faggot.
>>152589374>Mountains are at the very least 300 meters tall,Ahem>The smallest traditionally recognized mountain is Mount Wycheproof in Australia, which stands only 43 meters () above the surrounding terrain ( above sea level).
why the mountain talk when Kiryu got put at multi-continental level for destroying a bunch of buildings on the show?
>>152589385Showa average around 50 with the tallest being Ghidorah at a 100 meters. Heisei goes from 80 to all the way to 150 from Ghidorah again. Millenium is usually at around 50 again until Final wars where they go back to 100. Reiwa and MV is all over the place but the stand out is the 300 meter Godzilla earth.Only one of those is as big as the smallest mountains.
>>152589426You expect these dumbfucks to go back and watch older episodes? They're sonicfags, they have extreme ADHD.
>>152589435Wrong. Smallest mountain is Mt. Tenpo, in Japan, at 20 meters, smaller than fucking 1965 Baragon who was 30 meters tall.
>>152589436I was talking about both sides faggot
>mechagodzilla city exploded mt. fuji>inb4 'that's not a mountain'
>>152589443called a mountain but not classified as such, now post Mechagodzilla destroying a mountain
>>152589466post Mechagodzilla City running around
>>152589466>mechagodzilla citythat's not a mechagodzilla, mechagodzilla got RAPED and GAPED by Young Godzilla Earth, now post Mechagodzilla destroying a mountain.
Notice how this Sonic fag will demand you to post character feats, but the moment you ask him to post anything, he doesn't
aw, it's ok sonicfags, i'm sure metal could maybe destroy mt. paltry if he tried really hard
>>152589295He dodged it twice and then kicked Zomom's ass
Cell can destroy a mountain
>>152589485Sigh...almost...
>>152589515>Looked it upOh fuck, he's screwed.
Feats are an outdated concept. We only care about statements here.
>>152589530is this the Rock Moro jobbed to?
>>152589533KRATOSKING!
>>152589530THAT'S JUST A ROCK! A MOUNTAIN CAN'T BE A ROCK! ELMO SWEARS TO GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY
>>152589533Do we care about Ian Flynn's statements capping Sonic at sub planetary?
>>152589559Of course we do
>Showa Mechagodzilla explodes out of Mt. Fuji destroying it>Cuts a mountain in half fighting King Caesar>Cuts another mountain in half in Terror of Mechagodzilla>Knocks over the 100 meter tall, mountain sized Godzilla twice>Freezes a mountain and several buildings in Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla>Mechagodzilla City explodes Mount Fuji in the second anime film.>2021 Mechagodzilla bursts out of a mountain in China, and the mountain fucking disappears when he fights both Kong and Godzilla at the same time.
>Metal Sonic>Ultron>Zero>Mechagodzilla all job to Skar King
>>152589586Dude was at risk of being punched out by Kong in their first encounter, had to do all those gay cartwheels and then summoned his pet to fight Kong for him, and she couldn't even freeze his entire forearm.
any dinosaur match?
>>152589586Who lost to Shimo. Shimo is queen.
>>152589602doesn't matterSkar King STOMPED
>>152589608Gwangi vs Fang?Fang vs Sauron from Primal Rage?Idominus Rex vs Diablo from Primal Rage?Asset 87 vs Indominus Rex?Distortus Rex vs 500 gorillas?
>>152589613Dude shit himself when Godzilla showed up.
>>152589622Godzilla shat himself too
>>152589630>I just do that. Bro, I'm almost 80 years old.
>>152589633Technically Monsterverse Godzilla is a few billion years old.
>>152589613Nice throne, dickhead, your mommy make it for you?
>>152589559How is sonic sub planetary when sonic unleashed happened?
>>152589559No because he gets gaped by SoJ
>>152589655Who...got gaped by Ken Penders?
>>152589654tiny planet
>>152589658That was Archie and SoA. They didn't fight Penders.
>your chosen hero has to fight a red and green grey gorilla who smells like absolute sewage>your hero gets farted on>the gorilla then pisses acid on them, turning them into a puddle of gore and bone>he then vomits, runs across the entire world, and then catches the vomit>then does a cannon ball into the nearest body of water
>>152589676He can only do one of those, not all three at once.
>>152589695Who's gonna tell him he can't do all three? YOU?
>>152589608Sharptooth (Land Before Time) vs Indominus Rex (Jurassic World)
>>152589708You can't do three Extinctions at once. Whaddya think this is, MK Armageddon?
>>152588733>Just stands there instead of nuking his ass while he is stunned trying to regenThis is why Android 17 is one of the smartest Dragonball characters
>>152589659Then wouldn't it be a moon then at that point? Like pluto.
>>152588338You are right about that.
>>152588817Boruto vs Gohan next year.
