>ruins your favorite childhood funnybookHeh, nothing personnal, kid
>>152596411It's so funny to me how this dude took down an entire successful comic series on his own and made it so Sega wanted nothing to do with anything remotely Archie related ever again. The fact that Tangle and Whisper made it into a Sonic Team game before Sally Acorn is hilarious to me.
Penders hate is overblown.
>>152596411Did he ever looked that "good"?Given all the pictures I've seen of him I always assumed he was always a blob.
>>152596427You're giving him more credit than he deserves (or he indirectly tries to give himself), at most you can blame him for Sega becoming more strict with the comic and its alignment to game canon, but even that happened way after the Pendering.
>>152596593He got fatter as he got old.
>>152596427Sega was always going to treat IDW Sonic with better respect than Archie Sonic because they have full creative control from the start instead of trying to force it later into it's run and causing more complications in the process. It's why Ian Flynn now works on the scripts for the Sonic games while Penders is just a lowcow who hasn't touched the Sonic series in 20 years that people like to make fun of for his autistic writing and horrible drawings.
As a comic book writer, I have a lot of respect for Ken Penders going “No! These are MY toys! You CAN’T play with them!” and fighting it out in court, even if I think he’s a jackass for doing so.
>>152596639Archie was run by shitty dykes and he was trying to stick it to them. He wasn't the only one, many of the other artists and editors took Archie to court.
>>152596593He looks like a blob to me.
>>152596686He is by no means "fit", but compare him to recent photos (even when he still had the moustache) and you'll see what I meant.
>>152596730He should probably stick to wearing those hawaiian shirts like most middle age comic creators with fat bellies.
how old is even this guy
>>152597087Mentally? Permanently 14.
>>152597087Almost 70. In this photo, maybe late 40s
>>152596411I think Ian Flynn is worse, his stories and characters are far more insufferable, not to mention his constant callbacks to older games, I dunno if the idea of making Eggman """sympathetic""" in Frontiers was his, but it simply doesn't work when you consider that he was responsible for the deaths of everyone living in Station Square in Sonic Adventure 1 and committed mass genocide and torture in Sonic Forces, the sympathetic thing worked well for Dr Wily in Megaman 11 because his crimes in the classic series aren't anywhere near as bad as the shit Eggman has done, he ruined Amy's personality beyond repair in a misguided attempt to "FIX" her, he makes up rules and blames SEGA for his choices only for SEGA to contradict everything he says later one, he claims he cannot use Marine in the comics because of SEGA, but then he claims to hate Marine as character, he claims SEGA doesn't allow him to use money or humans, only for money and humans to be used in that official Japanese Tails VTuber series where he explain humans live in other islands plus Elise getting new official art hanging out with Silver, he namedrops the Hooligans and in the comics but cannot use them, he namedrops Sticks in Frontiers but cannot use her, if everything in Sonic Crossoworlds is canon then that would open a whole other can of worms because that would mean Spongebob, Miku, Pac-Man, Minecraft, Persona and Yakuza are all canon to Sonic, if the IDW comics are canon then that's even more stupid since that would mean SAGE isn't even Eggman's first daughter but that ugly Pinocchio OC is (plus that would make the entire DC Universe canon to Sonic as well), what about Amy's dress now being a black void and having no pantyshots like in the older games? what about Rouge having her breasts removed in the Generations remake and Crossworlds despite having breasts huge enough to bounce all over the place as she moved around in her debut game "Sonic Adventure 2"? give me canon reasons for that
>>152597349Based
>>152597349I have no particular attachment to the video games these characters come from but I do enjoy comics and I enjoyed the early Sonic comics as being entertaining funny comics (and eventually, adventure focused comics). I have never enjoyed Flynn's work much. His stories are mostly insubstantial fluff. Not interesting, not funny. Just kind of inoffensive and bland.
>>152597349Amy because a dyke feminazi and Rouge go breast cancer
>>152596639Getting mad at more Echidna existing in that shitty RPG was stupid.>>152597349>I dunno if the idea of making Eggman """sympathetic""" in Frontiers was hisThe worst thing about Sonic 2006 was turning heel Eggman again.Adventure 2 was Eggman at his worst till got a wake Up call and understand he shouldn't be evil. And in heroes he was sympatetic enough with the twist.Eggman is in the position Sigma is in Megaman X, at this point is better to move on and use others villains.
>>152597349They're both equally as autistic since Flynn began as a Penders/Archie fanboy who would send them letters
I only read the good sonic comics so I can't relate.
>>152597349Writing-wise I think they are equally bad.Personality-wise, I think Penders is far worse.
>>152597349Yeah, name dropping Sticks twice in Frontiers was weird
>>152596639>>152597477It's funny in an ironic way, for all his big talks about how important he was to the Sonic franchise (as a whole, not just comics), his ideas setting the base for a videogame is like the ultimate victory. Even if he didn't get money from it, nobody would deny the influence and he could have gloated for years about it.Fuck, he could have laughed at his arch-enemy (Ian Flynn) of how his (Penders') ideas made it first into the game canon.Instead, he choose to be a petty asshole.
>>152597668Sonic Spinball
>>152597349>what about Rouge having her breasts removed in the Generations remake and Crossworlds despite having breasts huge enough to bounce all over the place as she moved around in her debut game "Sonic Adventure 2"?Ok, anon, not that the rest of what you are saying is false, far from it, but you can't possibly pin the blame of this on Ian.
>>152597349Flynn has his own flaws but I still think Penders was worse in terms of writing a Sonic comic. It's just more funny to look back on Penders era writing because it's so bizarre. Like the dude didn't have to get so autistic about Knuckles' lore and giving him this huge ass family tree but its really funny he did.
>>152597680>game canon>spinball
>>152597704I keep my theory that after Penders realized Sega would not make him rewrite anything he proposed for Knuckles (according to Penders himself, all his first Knuckles ideas were originally Sonic ones, but were rejected by SoA, because they actually reviewed the comic a bit back then), Penders decided to use Knuckles as a meatsuit for the protagonist of whatever Superman/Star Trek-derived original story he was working on but nobody wanted to publish.He just adjusted it a bit to fit into furry protagonist and the rest is history. That's why he is so "defensive" about it, despite claiming back in the 90s/2000s that Sonic was just work for him and he didn't even use his best material.
>>152597349I wonder if the IDW characters are even going to have voices, so far the only DLC character with voicelines in CrossWorlds is Miku, Pac-Man and the Ghosts do arcade noises so I dunno if that counts
>>152597717was that not more of a satam thing than a comic thing?
>>152597772I don't think that's a theory. That's just what actually happened. It's why he's working on that Lara-Su Chronicles crap still. He always used Knuckles as a launching pad for his fan fiction.
>>152597796Due to the Chaotix Radio Show giving them official voices, there is a lot of speculation.I guess it's up to SoJ wanting to search for official seiyuus for them, which they will have to if they also plan to dub the Radio Show (so far, only subtitled).
>>152597835I mean, we could argue he builded his fanfiction as he started working on Knuckles, that's one option. But the way I see it, the whole thing was planned before as another thing, he just found a way to "publish" it easily.
>>152597835There is also the idea that Penders lived under the delusion that his lore was so rich, so unique, it was a matter of time before Sega came knocking on his door to beg him for permission to use them in a game (if not outright write it). None of this is confirmed, as he will never admit it in public, but given his ego and the way he has talked about those days, it's a very probable deduction.That's also why SA1 fell on him like a ton of bricks, not only he realized Sega didn't give two shits about his "superior" Echidna lore, but they came up with their own and were forcing him to incorporate it in the comic. That's why he hates that game with such a passion.
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>>152597908>The tribal echidnas from SA1 were scientists who lost their minds and went native trying to wipe out the indigenous tribes and take them overKen wasn't going to let Sega tank his plans using actual canon.
>>152598080The Sonic Classics digests outright refused to reprint Sonic Live's main story, at most only reprinting the backup story that originally tied into it.
Where is the Penders AI Anon? Those were funny.
>>152597833Pretty much, yeah
