Man this whole thing is a rollercoaster and it feels like the cars are either gonna land in an acid pit or a swimming pool filled with rusty nails.

>>152641945
>pool filled with rusty nails.
just wait for the nails to sink to the bottom before swimming, DUHH

This is just getting silly now.

>>152641933
Would this leads to massive debt for Paramount?

>>152641979
ins fact, maybies.

>>152641962
But anon there's no water, only nails

>>152641933
Ellison and Saudi ownership, at a sky-high price, is going to make things so much fucking worse. The whole thing is going into the toilet at superhuman speed.

>>152641995
oh thats a grim, just a pool filled with peoples discarded nails. i wasnt aware keratin could rust, but then again my beard is rusty coloured.

Is it possible that the bidding war just continues infinitely into a perpetual back and forth where no one ends up becoming the new owners and WB is in a constant state of being "up for sale" meaning they pretty much just operate as they usually do on their own like they were never up for sale? I think that'd be the best outcome honestly.

>>152641933
>On Tuesday, before Netflix pulled out of the hunt for WBD, a coalition of 11 state attorneys general — all Republicans — urged the Department of Justice to carefully scrutinize the Netflix-Warners deal. In a letter, the attorneys general warned that the deal “will likely result in undue market concentration that stifles competition and therefore creates higher prices, lower reliability, and less innovation.”
>They also expressed concerns that streaming subscribers will face higher prices, and that the merger will be bad for the theater business. Noting that the U.S. remains the “world leader in movies,” the letter closed with a premonition: “Netflix’s quest to become ‘the one platform to rule them all’ through its acquisition of Warner Brothers threatens this dominance.”

They right will fight over netflix, the left will fight over paramount. Just give it to Comcast.

>>152642010
That's less painful and more just gross. Also reddit-coded response.

>>152642006
Netflix doesn't care about that; their loss means less work was lost.

>>152641933
not a surprise netflix was getting sued too when they were winning the bid

>>152642034
>reddit coded
take your gay buzzword elsewhere you fucking sped.

>>152642070
Struck a cord I see

>>152642019
Would that be unironically better if Comcast bought WB when it comes to animation wise?

>>152642074
yeah you struck my conk cord jet really hard bro, say sorry.

>>152641933

Good.

>>152641979
It's more than Disney spent on Marvel, Star Wars, and Fox combined.

The Ellisons are clearly hoping for some sort of government contract, otherwise this shit collapses under its own weight.

>>152641933
Will the government just nationalize Warner bros? Seems like they aren't happy with any one owning it

>>152642117
Warner Bros could just stay independent and make good movies to make money

>>152642034
>reddit-coded response
ooo, that actually made me physically cringe

>>152642112

So basically theyre hoping for someone to help bail them out on the debt, but is just gonna cause more harm then good in the long run.

>>152642112
Or they're just hoping everyone and their mother will want to license the IPs. And unlike WB's previously they won't be protective of them so any idiot willing to shell out can make their own Batman or Bugs Bunny slop

>>152641945
Daddy Donald is gonna save them and use taxpayer money to bail out after they've gutted the catalog

>>152642112
That's what amazes me, it's fucking hard cash. Even the netflix deal offered shares to lower the cash compensation so they wouldn't have to take on debt.
I think Ellison's shares in paramount are dilutable to the point he can be put at the board's mercy.

>>152642224
Man, I kinda hope the Dems take over after the midterms, just to throw another wrench in all this. It'd be hilarious to watch.

>>152641933
You know all of this could have easily been avoided if Warner Bros. just didn't suck ass at making movies like they do right now.

>>152642088
Yes they don't have a TV animation department.

>>152642224
Probably. Can't wait for my taxes to get worse.

>>152641933
Who cares, honestly. The establishment legacy media companies all fucking suck ass at providing actually decent entertainment, WB, Fox 21st, Disney, let it all go to hell and let new companies arise from the ashes. At least that's how I see it

>>152641933
So what now? First the hillbillies who took over Paramount bought WB for their fake God Trump, but now they're saying it's not over yet?

>>152641979
WB's debt is more than Paramount's networth. This will actually make them go bankrupt

>>152642401
Obsessed lmao

>>152642401
The California AG is suing on grounds that this is an illegal merger

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As long as Netshit doesn't get their hands on it, idc.
Kinda curious why Universal backed out. As much as I hate Sony, I'd still take them over Netflix.

>>152642510
this

>>152642510
>Kinda curious why Universal backed out.
this shit is a fool's deal, almost no studio can afford it, people are already speculating that in a few years this will just lead to the Paramount/WB amalgamation being absorbed by yet another company in a weakened state.

>>152641933
Sorry, the other 49 States and all US territories want this buyout to happen.

Universal is up next.

>>152641979
david is entirely reliant on his daddy bailing them out and praying the ai stuff stays incredibly high so oracle isn't buttfucked too which would fuck him in turn

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>>152642242
>>152642220
It doesn't help that Paramount has been doing WORSE since the buyout, and it wasn't doing great to begin with.

It feels like the Ellisons are approaching this from a technology perspective where they think people will need this. They won't. A film company's revenue is dependent on its talent.

What happens when James Gunn is welcomed back to Marvel with open arms? What happens when Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert get a show on NBC? What happens when Zach Hadel moves to Netflix?

IP is important, yeah, but it can only take you so far if you're unable to attract creative stewards of that IP. We've already seen the incredibly Trumpy Ellisons swallow their pride when it comes to South Park because they had literally nothing else.

Either the content will be so non-Trumpy it made no sense to purchase, or it will be so obnoxiously Trumpy it will drive talent away and eventually become worthless regardless.

>>152642286
WB is allergic to making good business decisions, their poor output as of late is just a symptom of that.
Consider that they immediately followed their high point in the late 90s by buying out AOL right as the dot-com bubble burst.

>>152642684
All in all, Netflix is gonna buy both of them in a few years

>>152642510
>As long as Netshit doesn't get their hands on it, idc.
Anon, methinks it is inevtiable for SarandosCo. to acquire the mess that is Paramount WB. No other entertainment giant on the planet would have the resources to buy it and even if they could, it’s certainly not going to be a foreign company.

Apple probably would but I’m pretty sure they’re saving their megacompany-acquisition-virginity for Disney instead of settling for the lesser whore in this deal.

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>>152642742
So many wishful thinking anons in the thread. Anons trying to say "years down the line" this "years down the line" that, when most people don't even know what they're having for breakfast the day after. What we know is that Netflix lost, and that any chance at them getting another go is too far away to bother making predictions. It's just 50/50, like everything else in that timeframe.

>>152642684
>>152642404
>>152642242
>>152642112
>>152641979

Nickelodeon as we know it straight up does not exist any more. The only shows in active development are the Avatar show and Spongebob.

They had to end Loud House which was doing really well because they straight up *do not have the funds to produce anything else*.

This feels a bit like those old timey families that held large tracts of land but had no cash. Paramount had an absurd amount of IPs and no money to actually produce anything.

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>>152642783
>What we know is that Netflix lost, and that any chance at them getting another go is too far away to bother making predictions.
You don’t count your chickens before they hatch, anon. You don’t need to have precognition or be a detective to see where this all leads to, years down the line.

>>152642815
>Loud House which was doing really well
Yea, towards adult perverts, not kids who avoided it.

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>>152642819
And like everyone else that thought they knew what came next and was wrong, you'd still be wrong.

>>152642783
Netflix didn't lose, they realized spending what Disney spent on Marvel, Fox, and Star Wars, plus another four billion on top of that, was monumentally stupid.

What on Earth could Paramount produce that would justify that price?

>>152641945
no survivors

>>152642838
>Strawman
Okay anon. Go back to your discord subversion group. lol

>>152642834
You made a mistake in assuming that I thought Netflix would ultimately get Warner; I personally would’ve wanted Paramount to at least keep the theaters alive for a little bit longer and I still turned out right.

>>152642851
Answer the question. How can Paramount possibly recoup this cost

Can both of these companies just not be allowed to buy WB?

>>152642874
Another 1000 minutes of Looney Tunes Cartoons, now with Ran and Stimpy and SpongeBob.

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>>152642729
>>152642742
This.

The more the film industry is consolidated, the less likely other foreign companies swoop in to buy them; leaving it wide open for the entertainment giants and American streaming platforms to buy them outright.

I believe I predicted how this would go originally:
>bidding war happens for WB
>Universal doesn’t have the moolah to buy them, dips, leaving behind Paramount as a serious contender
>Paramount tries to get WB through coercion before escalating into strongarm tactics
>if WB refuses or goes somehwere else, Paramount continues to twist WB’s arm via government connections and lawfare
>Netflix knows that this situation in the indistry will still play into their hands soon enough so they bide their time and exploit the clusterfuck with Paramount as much as they can just like what Comcast did to Disney by fucking them over with making them rack up $52 billion in debt to buyout 21st Century Fox
>WB eventually concedes, goes to Paramount
>Comcast gets cold feet with the industry and tries to sell Universal to either Amazon or Netflix
>ParamountWarner’s debt proves to be too unsustainable to manage, even after the eventual split with their cable assets by shoving their debt into them
>Netflix ends up with either one or both companies as the government realizes that the industry has consolidated too much to do anything about it without it all blowing up

This is the end of American cinema and you all know it.

>>152642960
That pic is some funny shit Anon

Also I think you're about right

>>152642815
Loud House isn't over

>>152642960
No, if anything it's..

>Warner Bros eventually concedes, goes to Paramount/
>Comcast gets cold feet with the industry and sells Universal to Paramount because that was Paramount's original plain after buying Warner Bros.
>Paramount Warner’s debt is paid off by Trump's tariffs.
>Paramount Warner buys Universal but only the movie studios (including DreamWorks), the IPs and theme parks as the FTC won't let them buy the networks (they were not part of the sale anyway).
>Netflix ends up with Columbia/Tri-Star and the rest of Sony's media divisions including the Japanese branches due to Sony wanting to focus on gaming, this way Netflix won't leave empty handed.
>Spider-Man and whatever Sony had that was Marvel related goes back to Disney.

>>152642960
>This is the end of American cinema and you all know it.
it's already over, all we got now is sequels, reboots and remakes. sinners was the highest grossing original ip in a decade and it was still shit

>>152643001
>Paramount Warner’s debt is paid off by Trump's tariffs
...how?

>>152641979

It's so much debt that it'd be shocking if the merged company survives this decade even if it takes a year or two for the merger to complete like Disney buying Fox did.

Most likely they'll slash pretty much every upcoming project, write a ton of stuff off for tax purposes, and have a firesale of most of the IP. Think of all the stuff that people got pissed at Zaslav over but on a much greater scale since there's vastly more debt.

Decent chance Netflix winds up owning a lot of it in a couple years anyway.

Give WB to me, I have stories for decades.

>>152643007
The Ellison are extremely close to Trump.

>>152642684
>What happens when Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert get a show on NBC?
They fail even harder because they're already losing money?

>It doesn't help that Paramount has been doing WORSE since the buyout
It hasn't even been 1 year you retard.

>>152643010
The only reason for this valuation for WB/D is that Zaslav did enough to cut debt and save the company IP that it's worth what Netflix was offering at a minimum. He actually, shocker, did his fucking job.

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>>152643007
Anon has no fucking idea how anything works.

>>152643055
I do know how this stuff works.

>>152642684
Paramount's troubles currently have nothing to do with the Ellisons because the merger has only just NOW finalized you retard. Even though Paramount has won the bid for Warner, nothing will be finalized at least for a few more years at best.

>>152643065
What's actually gonna happen anon is that he's gonna gut another government office or public health care service, claim he's using tariff money, but it was just laundered from some off shore account that one of these rich assholes have.

Tariffs won't pay for shit if he has to owe them to the shipping companies footing the bulk of the bill. The companies want that money back they stole from consumers. Trump can't keep the money from tariffs.

I don't want either Paramount nor Netflix to buy out WB. I am sick of the entire environment industry merging into one media conglomerate.
How can there be actual competition if everything is owned by one company?

>>152643001
>>Netflix ends up with Columbia/Tri-Star and the rest of Sony's media divisions including the Japanese branches due to Sony wanting to focus on gaming, this way Netflix won't leave empty handed.
You know, I can see that happening, but I just don’t know if the Japanese would just let go of their film and tv businesses. I know that their Spider-Man films have been a money sink for years apart from the animated flicks, but they’ve already mentioned wanting to reboot anyway.

>>152641979
It is owned by the second richest man in the world. Twitter is losing money because of Elon. It doesn't matter if you're rich. You just don't get to ever experience mistakes.

>>152643001
>>Paramount Warner buys Universal but only the movie studios (including DreamWorks), the IPs and theme parks as the FTC won't let them buy the networks (they were not part of the sale anyway).
Gonna be real with you anon, I don’t think Paramount Warner’s going to want to keep the theme parks either.

>>152642960
>This is the end of American cinema and you all know it.
*american corporate cinema
All this hollywood shit was never worth much anyway

>>152643074
You retards don't understand the purpose of the tariffs to start with. Tariffs are to encourage domestic production or leverage better trade deals with the tariffed country. Not to mention the countries were doing it to us first while we didn't reciprocate until now

>>152643075
I'm with you but Warner was going to sell to someone whether we like it or not. Paramount is the lesser evil

>>152643096
I've got a bridge to sell you.

>>152643096
So? America is rich enough to afford it. America makes way more money selling services and IP to countries that put tariffs on goods than it would make back by having a stupid little factory in the backwoods churning out mufflers for obsolete cars or glass cups for dining rooms or tractors for corporate mega-farms.

Trying to get those factories back is so stupid. Advanced nations progress to ever more intelligent work that multiplies the return on factories where only hard labor and costly materials generate any value. That's why poor countries export mineral ores or steel or cars: they're poor because they don't own any of the ideas that make them possible and can only sell labor and goods.

>>152643001
Holy shit your entire scenario is retarded. Sony currently makes more through their movies and television holdings than they do games. No way will they sell Sony Pictures anytime soon, especially not with them also basically owning the international anime market

>>152643117
Badass pic Anon.

>>152643122
His scenario is stupid but I could see a lot of these mergers happen just because the guys at top need the pay out. Sort of what Fox did, they'd keep the sections that they can control and manage, while selling off the parts, Like animation and IPs. The playstation won't last if the parts to build them are being bought up for AI farming.

Hopefully paramount #restoresthesnyderverse

>>152643133
Not to mention Sony shutting down studios like Bluepoint and Japan Studio and funding shit like Concord, Fairgames, Marathon, and Horizon Hunters gathering (or just Horizon in general)

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>>152641933
Newsoms crew are notorious for taking bribes (or they would be if we had a real media).
They want a handout. They wont put up real oppoisition unless theres a political reason.

>>152643159
Playstation doesn't make their money from their first party studios like Nintendo and Bluepoint was just a support studio, they didn't actually make anything. Japan Studio's games sold like shit, a fact that weebs always ignore when they bring up them up.

>>152641979
That debt is owed in dollars, and doing this deal gets them closer to the printer that makes dollars.
Their gamble is flip the table, or crash & burn (and crash and burn means fake bankruptcy/bailout)

>>152643191
What's the matter? Butthurt because it's the truth?

>>152642689
>WB is allergic to making good business decisions, their poor output as of late is just a symptom of that.
wouldnt it be cute if bad companies went under instead of getting bought out? The good old days, when companies were allowed to fail.

>>152643088
They want the parks, Nick was a major part of Universal Studios back in the day.
>>152643117
No Trump is the good guy Kamala lost for a reason.

What you just said is never going to happen.
>>152643122
>>152643133
No is isn't, it's intelligent and it will happen.

Almost all of Sony money is from insurance in the Japanese market, but their American branch makes most of it's money through gaming, the movie studios as well as Japan's music and anime branches are money sinks that they need to get rid of ASAP.
>>152643131
Those women were all over the age of 18, he was against what Epstein was doing.

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>>152643216
>>152643210

>>152643224
You're admitting you tell lies to us? Well, props for you being honest now.

>>152643224
>>152643230
There are no lies in those posts, only facts.

After Warner Bros Universal is next for Paramount.

>>152641933
The fact that Zach and Michael ended Smiling just as soon Paramount was announced to merge with WB is something

>>152643240
Schizo theory:
They knew bad things were coming out of this merger so they decided to end Smiling Friends to save it from corporate meddling.
If true, kind of based.

>>152643236
>UMMM, I'M NOT THE ONE TELLING LIES, YOU GUYS ARE! *sobbing and crying*

Both would be against anti-trust and Paramount will not be able to get it. Ellison has never ran a real business in his life. This will go down bad for him.

>>152643254
Not the case.

After Warner Bros Universal is next for Paramount.
Deal with it.

>>152643253
Why would they say that they wanted to end it at Season 4 and 5 and got renewed a week ago then?

>>152643259
Paramount is legit and will pass, Netflix isn't.

Paramount will get it.

>>152643260
>no counterargument
>just repeats
I accept your concession.

>>152641933
I fail to see what's the big deal about Paramount buying out Warner Bros. anyways. You guys were all bitching and crying about Netflix potentially buying it last time

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>>152643260
your dad is next

>>152642090
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>152643092
Proof? You just saying that doesn't make it true.

>>152642500
I don't know how that could work since they already screwed common law by allowing all those other mergers. They can't just pick and choose which ones get to happen (though I know they would like to think they can.)

If that's how it's going to be it will probably go up to the California Supreme Court.

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>>152643312
bruh, can't believe you don't remember what he did to you when you were 12. You're in the files anon, i get that maybe you enjoyed it but grooming is wrong.

>>152643322
Oh, you're just a faggot wanting attention.
Sorry that your dad was neglectful.

>>152643275
Israel

>>152642559
This is just going to keep happening until there's only one company and then they're going to try to demand the government bail them out.

I hope they refuse and they're forced to just go out of business.

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>>152643329
Anon, only fags browse 4chan. This isn't news. You wouldn't be here if you also didn't have daddy issues.

>>152643336
Fuck off commie

>>152642960
Good.

Honestly they should just reverse course and start lobbying to outlaw streaming.

They have to nuke the copyright/IP system.

>>152643007
By renaming themselves Trump Studios and putting him in charge.

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>>152643371
so... a faggot. got it. same thing.

>>152641933
>inb4 nothing fucking happens

>>152642815
How the FUCK did that happen?

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>>152643381
sir the board is for cartoons and comics.

>>152643255
I think the argument he's going to make is he was impeached less than two years into his first term and if you serve less than two years then you're eligible to run again (the law is intended to allow a vice president who suceede a president to be able to run for both of their terms if they served less than half a term for the president they replaced.) I don't think it would make sense considering he wasn't removed from office and finished his term (it would make sense if he was removed because yeah, why not) but also it's never come up before and ultimately you to the courts to decide which is why they're saying they can argue it in court, but I honestly think he's just bantering when he says that

>>152643404
I believe that the poster who originally brought the discussion off topic is the one who should be penalized. It will just keep happening otherwise.

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>>152643413
we're taking you with us pal. Hop in.

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>>152643417
I mean I am trying to derail the thread. He's got nothing else better to do and I got a million little cartoony images to share.

>>152642510
Explain why you think Netflix was the worse option without mentioning liberals, gays or "le woke"

>>152643099
Conservatives don't have the talent to make entertaining media so this is actually the worse option

>>152643542
>Implying Netflix can anything good most of the time
Lmao

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>2000: merged with AOL
>2017: merged with AT&T
>2022: merged with Discovery, bleeding IPs left and right from constant cost cutting that just ended up attracting less talent, investment, and ending up with another buyout anyway.
>Now in 2026: seizing a window of opportunity after buying Skydance, now stockpiling non-existing money from the Saudis, daddy Larry, and the current admin, indebted Paramount is now buying out indebted WB that Failed to cut costs from its previous adventures to begin with.
WB is a poison chalice, the life cycle of these M&A keeps getting shorter and shorter. Predict when is the next buyout, or even total collapse at this point.

>>152643688
Paramount has less money on hand than any of the companies that bought WB in the past. This merger is going to kill them both, and Netflix will buy up the carcass in a few years for like half of what they would have paid for them now. Then Netflix will strip both companies for their IP libraries and sell off the physical assets.

So in the long run, Netflix will win. In the short run, a bunch of Saudi Arabian sand niggers are going to own every DC character. That's "America first" in action, I guess.

>>152643525
Not him, but Netflix getting ahold of WB would result in the immediate death of WB theatrical releases.
Also, fags.

>>152643705
>Netflix loses deal
>'YEAH WELL THEY ARE DYING ANYWAYS, SO HA WE WIN!"
Holy copium

It looks like reddit in here, just as whiney and crying as well.

>>152643552
Name good conservative media from.the last 20 years

>>152643734
Okay, you're clearly very excited for some guy named Muhammad to run the Batman franchise from Riydah for the next few years, so feel free to thank Allah for your success.

All I'm saying is, anyone who can run basic numbers knows this deal is unsustainable in the long run. Enjoy the next couple of years and don't forget what direction Mecca is in.

>everyone freaking out over Paramount
>forgetting that Paramount is very progressive and has even had South Park doing a whole season of Anti-Trump humor
If this truly a fascist takeover like you guys wanted, they wouldn't get to say shit and get put against walls and killed.

>>152643756
Not going to happen. You're just a sore loser.

>>152643761
In this culture war era it's very easy to get retards to come to bat for your soulless corporation that in reality exists only to maximise shareholder returns with a little empty virtue signalling one way or the other. Whoever wins, anyone who values things like quality and entertainment loses, and that was always going to be the case.

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>>152643705
>This merger is going to kill them both, and Netflix will buy up the carcass in a few years for like half of what they would have paid for them now.
>Then Netflix will strip both companies for their IP libraries and sell off the physical assets.
That's why it sucks so much that Netflix was always the lesser of 2 evils, no matter how much they too also suck. At least with big N, they were willing to leave behind the cable shit untouched, while the "America first" admin would have to pretend to give a shit about antitrust to contain the merger and might force Netflix to sell more assets to fit with competitive standards of domestic and foreign regulators.
Now with just a 1 to 1 complete merger between 2 megacorp, the EU and every major foreign regulators will block it cause how brazenly anti-competitive this merger is, the US itself still has to step in cause national security risk from all the Saudi money.
You can't even hate Netflix for "woke" shit cause Netflix will win anyway, either buying both of them outright under a more ""woke"" admin using the same merger arguments given by the AF admin, or other megacorps like apple, sony, disney would feast on the corpse of WB Para for parts, allowing Netflix to basically shop whatever IPs it wants without taking on worthless assets, with half the price it was supposed to be paying now.

>>152643761
South Park is their golden goose kek, of course they aren't gonna tell Trey and Matt anything as long as they keep pumping slop for their streaming service

It's funny seeing people trying to make Netflix out to be a hero and writing fanfics about them right now.

>>152642684
>It doesn't help that Paramount has been doing WORSE since the buyout, and it wasn't doing great to begin with.

The only issue here is that movie-wise the stuff that was released in 2025 and now, are projects that were in the works prior to Skydance getting full control of Paramount in June. That last Mission Impossible was in the works as far back as the COVID lockdown days. The only actual change under Skydance-controlled Paramount has to do with the change in direction for CBS News and the cancellation of Colbert's show.

But this is still a problem because we still don't exactly know what Skydance-controlled Paramount can produce. Whatever is in the works since June 2025 probably won't be out till maybe 2027 at the earliest. And anything from WB released under Paramount was probably in the works before the buyout.

>>152643812
I don't recall anything owned by Paramount as of late that's been strongly conservative leaning.

Guys I'm too retarded to even remember what paramount owns. Star Trek and shit right?

>>152643744
Transformers. Because deceptiCONS

>>152643825
Star Trek, TMNT, Garfield, Loud House, Spongebob, Beavis and Butthead

>>152643075
The goal of competition is to eventually come out on top from the rest. We're just witnessing it's logical end; give it a few decades before we're left with only two mejor studios, a bit more to be left with just one.

>>152643813
They act like all those live action anime adaptations didn't happen.

>>152643855
Or forget that they were literally just crying and bitching about the idea of Netflix owning WB a month ago. Even James Cameron was against it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/james-cameron-warns-netflix-wbd-233029257.html

This also isn't getting into how Netflix has also made poor business decisions and blown out a lot of money for shows.

>>152643744
I would like to remind you that Paramount own star trek, and that series is pandering to leftist.
It doesn't matter how much you cry about "muh conservatives", business men will parder to whatever political party that has the most money.

>>152643873
That's why if someone were honest about it Paramount and Netflix were probably the two worst options

reminder that if le deal fails the ellisons are paying 7 billion out of pocket in breakaway fees
but on the other hand 100 billion in debt combined is a lot of liabilities that ai money couldn't even relieve (reminder that AOL died trying to fight 98B after similarly acquiring time warner with dot com money)

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>>152642783
>>152643813
>Netflix lost, and that any chance at them getting another go is too far away to bother making predictions.
Yeah but there's also the line "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't", and that for all the shit Netflix rightfully is getting, they will be significantly considered less shitty now than whoever mega conglomerate Disney 3.0 or even a fully cybernetic Netflix that will just scoop up whatever left of WB and just AI sloppified any remaining IPs it has left, rather than the failed college kids writers room Netflix is currently trying to replace.
Yes, Netflix lost, just like how duke Franz Ferdinand was "epically owned" in 1914. You will learn to appreciate how little these gay internet battles over "which corporations is less evil" matter, and not the endless nightmare that everyone knows will result from these "victories".

>>152643973
None of you were saying that about Disney and Fox buyout.

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>>152643982
>None of you were saying that about Disney and Fox buyout.
Were you? Considering the current output from Disney since 2019 Fox buyout, they sure created tons of successful franchises since then, and not the 26th Marvel Xmen movie or Avatar 2.5 or even Star Wars 9.5: somehow Rey will return, right?
Oh, you're talking about how Disney is still not collapsing, like how no one believed an already megacorp Disney couldn't able to absorb huge debt from buying another major legacy studio, unlike debt ridden Paramount which is still under debt from a previous buyout is getting bailout from saudi money and is worth $15 bil buying out a $70 bil legacy studio?

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>>152641933
Can't we just kill Warner Bros, Paramount AND Netflix?

>>152641933
this is more entertaining than some of the stuff these studios put out

>>152643806
And we all know how the Warner curse is gonna go. Warner Discovery didn't even last a year. This one's gonna last less

>>152644073
*half a decade not year, fuck

>>152643525
they can't because this is 4chan, where morale is all made up for them and the points don't matter.

>>152644083
Its not a puppets job to think for itself

>>152644073
This one WILL last, Trump will make sure of it.

>>152642815
Didn't the latest spongebob movie flop as well? Even their golden cow is struggling

>>152644107
$167 million WW on a $64 million budget. It likely just barely broke even. They were dumb as hell putting a SpongeBob movie next to Avatar and Zootopia 2.

>>152643825
>Star Trek
>Nickelodeon
>Garfield
>TMNT
>South Park
>Beavis and Butt-Head
>Hasbro IPs film rights

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>>152641933
This stage is called "bargaining."

>>152644107
It didn't flop, but it would have made a lot more money if they didn't stupidly release it on the same day as Avatar and Zootopia 2.

>>152644121
The fact that fucking Spongebob is struggling does not paint a good sign for Paramount

>>152642088
It would be worse for Dreamworks and Illumination though because we'd see less new movies from them.

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>>152643982
>None of you were saying that about Disney and Fox buyout.
We were all more innocent back then. "Oh, the X-Men and the Avengers are finally gonna crossover!" "Oh, the Alien Queen is now a Disney Princess!" "The Simpsons are gonna be in Kingdom Hearts!". If anything the worry was moreso that Disney was gonna become a monopoly (spoiler: they didn't. In fact they would probably be fucked by now if they hadn't bought Fox.)

Disney also hadn't really fucked up buying Pixar, Marvel or Lucasfilm beyond making Rise of Skywalker, so people thought they would handle Fox (not the most well-mannered studio at the time) reasonably well. Instead they gutted 20th Century Fox, gutted Searchlight, closed down Blue Sky, laid off thousands of people, etc.

Now, the thing with Warner is that it actually already has a recent history of mergers. First with AOL in the 2000s, then AT&T in the 2010s and finally Discovery in the 2020s and these all ended unequivocally in disasters. And people, rightfully, don't think Paramount is gonna be any different given their $100 billion in debt.

>>152642074
>>152642090
You strike a “chord” not cord.

>>152643982
Disney Fox buyout was tame compared to the Microsoft Activision buyout and now that buyout is tame compared to this. Also Disney Fox was a novelty because of how huge it was.

It's so funny watching these cucks celebrate this when WB is just going to be sold again in a few years.

Discovery was in less debt when it bought WB than Paramount is now, and they only lasted three years as WB's owner. Paramount will be lucky to be able to hold that money pit for two and a half years before they're forced to either sell it off or go bankrupt.

Disney and Netflix are the only Hollywood players who can afford to hold onto WB for any meaningful length of time. All Paramount has done is lower the eventual price they'll have to pay.

>>152643744
In-shadow is a short film that mogs any "democratic" or "liberal" production and it was made by 1 guy

>>152644262
LOL, of course it's about liberals. This is why conservative media is so boring, the all-consuming right wing obsession with liberals is the only thing it can talk about.

>>152644273
It's literally not about liberals, unless you assume consumerism and greed is liberalism.

>>152644256
Paramount is going to get sold as well. Seriously this buyout is going to make them go bankrupt

>>152642729
my thought s exactly

Caliniggers

>>152642729
Not going to happen.

Yall need to touch grass.

>>152642511
Battle Nexus is now a Crisis level event.

Guess the only difference is Paramount is the slightly worse evil. It is what it is.

>>152643761
No one here is freaking out about Paramount politics. Maybe on Reddit.
People here are freaking out because Paramount said they would cut 20% of WB from the onset, so we will get even less content now, and they will pay out 100 billion and have 50 billion in debt, so they are so overlevereged the company not collapsing is based on Oracle stock not collapsing due to AI, which itself is reliant on the idea there is no AI bubble that will crash stock

>>152642684
>IP is important, yeah, but it can only take you so far if you're unable to attract creative stewards of that IP. We've already seen the incredibly Trumpy Ellisons swallow their pride when it comes to South Park because they had literally nothing else.
Thing is, you don't even have to factor talent/audience retention.

Because when you factor time frame and interest. The entire Warner library, full audience retention, cannot make that kind of money back. Fucking Pokemon would have trouble making back that kind of money in a relative 10 year time frame.

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>>152644397
>so they are so overlevereged the company not collapsing is based on Oracle stock not collapsing due to AI, which itself is reliant on the idea there is no AI bubble that will crash stock

Not just AI bubble in general but Sam Altman's OpenAI specifically because they've overextended themselves with debt to fund datacentres for them. Never mind that Sammy needs to conjure more money than God on his ownsome, among other things Oracle has committed to getting 450,000 GPUs "fully operational" by the end of this year, as in housed in a building, powered up and running constantly, when they only had 96,000 "delivered" in December. Remember also the Ellisons also bought 15% of Tiktok, which is haemorrhaging money.

Like, this is Greek mythological character screaming "fuck all the Gods but especially fuck Zeus, I'm invincible" during a thunderstorm levels of hubris if they think this is going to work out well.

>>152643744
I have a hard enough time thinking of anything good made in the last 20 years period

>>152644561

>450,000 GPUs

why in the fuck would you need something like this. I imagine that phone call to Nvidia wouldn't go well.

>yeah hey Nvidia we need about half a million cards and we need em in a few months....

>>152645129
They dont. This entire AI hype train revolves entirely around spectacle, being seen as spending big on AI encourages other idiot CEOs to spend as well out of FOMO.

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So… the throughline I’m getting from reading this thread top to bottom is that Paramount’s fucked themselves over with tens of billions of dollars in debt by buying Warner Bros. and all Netflix has to do is to wait until the ParaBros collapses under it’s own weight like the dying neutron star that it is before they pick apart the valuable pieces (IPs and profitable franchises) from the corpse?

>>152645169
Netflix is being very strategic about it all. It’ll further hasten both cable and theatrical’s demise which Netflix abhors.

Hell, if they play their cards right, they’ll merge their own imprint and end up with the largest and most profitable comic book franchise in history (Millarworld + DC Comics + TMNT + Fucking Garfield)