>"Burn out" after only 26 episodes that are only 11 mins each What's wrong with modern cartoon showrunners?>Inb4: they're so involved So were doc and jackson yet despite long gaps, they still managed to put out 10-16 half hours a season.Matt and Trey used to get 13-18 episodes a season released when they were in their prime
>>152649359Deep down, they knew that the show's concept peaked with the pilot and feared becoming the next Rick and Morty. Although R&M's demise was a perfect storm of shit going wrong one after another
>inb4 retards say "they want to leave on a high note"Yeah, that doesn't work when half the episodes are mediocre.
>>152649359All millenials know how to do is make 12 hour video essays about Bionicle lore and whore themselves on only fans after baiting redditors with shitty webcomics and bad 2B cosplay. They should all be sent to the mines and we should let anime take over.
>>152649359Whites can't write
>>152649398You salty boy
>>152649407>Aussie and a big nosed goblinWhite
>>152649393If you thought half the episodes were mediocre, shouldn't you understand why they already think they're out of funny jokes
>>152649422I'm not a boy I'm a full grown girl.
>>152649432Not really, some shows take a lot seasons to really hit that stride and Smiling Friends seemed to have that trajectory.
/co/'s hatred for the show is fucking retarded.
>>152649458The board will miss the cartoon dearly when they realize there is literally nothing else to watch.
>>152649443Dude thats gay
>>152649359Didn't every episode have some guest collaborator/artist work on the production? What stopped them from leveraging the ideas and effort of those people? Were they too autistic to be helpful?
>>152649468once there are no more cartoons /co/ can finally finish becoming the board it was meant to be: five schizos spamming the same DTVA smut over and over
>>152649359Zach is the one who most likely wanted to quit. Michael actually has a consistent record of running shows simultaneously.If yolo hadn't been canceled by as he'd still be working on it. He even returned to the indie scene last year
>>152649675Zach is clearly the weak link in their relationship. Michael is dead serious about being in adult animation, fucker has 3 shows to his name.
>>152649359Sleepycabin alumni have an abysmal work ethic. Zach was the most successful one at least
>>152649407Stfu, you mongrel
They ran out of good ideas after two seasons and were already phoning it in by the third. Also Zach is famously lazy.
>>152649458i think it's just the same group wanting attention, so they just keep making the same threads with lies
>>152649675>I didnt want to make anymore of my successful show because Im too good for stress and I cant handle being pressured in any way, Id rather just fuck aroundIf I was Michael Id be pissed. Chris is even lazier
I think it boils down to it not being worth it for them.people say, "but old cartoonists stayed in the industry and had long running shows!!" yeah, back in the day when there wasn't this thing called social mediathese guys can either: >continue working on the show, dealing with god knows what behind the scenes, and maybe have a few good eps, or drag it out until the quality dies orrrrr>leave now, make some oneyplays vids, make 100x more money for 100x less effort and sell a little merchthe choice is obvious
>>152649951Youtube ads dont pay what they used to and most OneyPlays merch goes on clearance
They're Newgrounds peeps, aka animators that make cartoons "for fun". The workflow required to get into the industry isn't the same, and they found out the bad way.
>>152649508if you take them on their word, they just felt like the series idea peaked and didn't wanna turn it into a zombie a la simpsons/R&M. Hopefully they have some new ideas for a different show, if they arent taking a break to do some lower level stuff for other shows like they have been
>>152649951>Youtube>Making money in 2026Fuckers with millions of subs have to resort to ebegging
>>152649407Explain this then, brownoid.
>>152649359Alright /co/Since you guys are oh so smart and talented, how would (you) avoid burnout if you created Smiling Friends?
>>152650113Id go piss on some Albanian whores.
>>152649951>Make a TV show, art that has cultural impacts>Make a podcast for a shrinking audience of people they obviously hateLazy rando asshole mindset. Why do the podcast at all? Why not just work from home scamming people or something
>>152650109Nobody on 4chang is white
>>152650151Sounds like a (You) problem to me.
>"ALL THESE OTHER ANIMATORS MADE MORE ANIMATION! WUT GIBS?!">muh millennials>muh noogrounds>muh OneyPlays>parasocial mindreader bullshitHow many more days until this shit stops?
>>152650183If they're actually serious about ending it (I personally believe they're telling the truth), then never./co/ will not live this down. Expect SF threads daily, with an influx on April 1st when it turns out that it's not a prank. Then another influx on the 12th when the final two episodes premiere and then a steady, daily stream of posts for years to come
>>152650138All we have left is lazy rando assholes be grateful
>>152649359We didn't even get to know the Boss' manifesto... no doctor monster...
>>152650151Nope>>152650175Faggot
>>1526501832 more weeksThis is just the new normal
Theyre ending it because of creative differences. Zach wanted to have 30 more bits where the gag is they're speaking with realistic dialogue and stuttering/mumbling, and Michael wanted to write actual jokes.
>>152650392Zach is a prodigy how dare you slander him
>>152650255>All we have left is lazy rando assholesFor what exactly?
>>152650113Take AdderallFuck off on a dumb vacation somewhere
>>152649951I like Oneyplays. I don't follow the channel as closely as I used to, but I still like it. But man, I will be bummed if Zach slinks back to his buddy's Let's Play channel after pulling the plug on his T.V. show. Yeah you can say he did it to preserve the quality of his project but it's a FUCKING LET'S PLAY CHANNEL.
>>152650426Zach is a fuckin quitter that dresses up quitting like its artistic integrity. Fear is part of making anything good
>>152649872Chris is too lazy to play video games
Im glad we can all agree that if the burnout thing is real it was almost certainly instigated by Zach
>>152650647>anon doesn't understand sarcasm How brown are you?
>>152650829Midwest white unfortunately. Its not the best blood
>>152650860Cope
>autistic retards who think it’s a prank because they see Zach as a character they can predict>dumbass faggots who think it’s a Jew conspiracy >fantards who keep seething and reply to every post criticizing Zach/Michael, the show or the decision 27 10 minute episodes causing “burnout” is fucking insanely pathetic. That being said, I don’t want him to go back to Oneyplays. Because he’s always been the least funny part to me. Good show that the fanbase did not deserve..
>>152649359They're deathly afraid of becoming "cringe" and having the same light shown on them that they cast on others
>>152649359Too many showrunners trying to be like Matt and Trey without realizing that South Park actually does have a writers room. Trey just does the final scripts
>>152649359I hope they will continue to collab in the future. These boys are funny on their own but together they truly make something special.
>>152649443With a haunted gameboy advance sp blue edition?
>>152649456>some shows take a lot seasons to really hit that stride If it takes that long for a show to get good, why flounder and waste time making mediocre content instead of taking a hiatus and coming back fresh when the time feels right?
>>152650113I would make each episode 10 minutes long and only make ten episodes a season
>>152649687>Zach is clearly the weak link in their relationship despite being the bigger name, the funnier of the two and the main reason why people tuned in in the first place
>>152651244>the bigger name>has 0 prior tv experience vs michael's 2 shows>the funnier of the two>most iconic cartoons are edgy newgrounds le rape/murder edgyness, more well known for shitty lets plays>main reason why people tuned in in the first place>banking in on parasocial oneyplays fags makes him the stronger writer somehow Zach glazers never fail to amaze me. Lets not forget Zach has several dropped projects under his belt already (Sleepycabin, Schmucks, Hellbenders). The guy can't finish shit. Michael is still making Damo and Darren videos to this day.
1) why throw away a fat paycheck on a rising star show? How the fuck does zach even make a living otherwise? 2) how can they have exhausted the show? One 2 hour oneyplays episode can have constant riffing and jokes that are so fucking funny, zach is insanely funny naturally, smiling friends has had a very brief run there's no fucking way the concept has run it's course. This has to be because of the merger or something, what kind of executive would even let these guys off the hook like this?
>>152651286Didn't sleepycabin end because everyone fucking hated each other by the end?
>Creative work is just cranking a handle.>What do you mean "Doing more will only make it forced and stale"? Shut up and keep cranking that money machine!
>>152651295Adukt Swim execs probably know the channel is on borrowed time. Odds are Paramount will fold them into comedy central (or shut down both entirely and focus on their streaming network)
>>152651312Literally every other showrunner in history didn't seem to have the same issue, at least not after 24 fucking episodes.
>>152651286>Thinks some Aussie faggot is funnier because he made more unfunny TV shows by himself when compared to ZachAustralians can't help being unfunny. It's in their blood>most iconic cartoons are edgy newgrounds le rape/murder edgynessIf you're too good for Psychicpebbles then how can you stomach Cusack's hot garbage?>Lets not forget Zach has several dropped projectsDefine "dropped". Sleepycabin fizzled out for various reasons not necessarily within his control and the biggest pull was their podcast, Hellbenders didn't pan out because they didn't like how it'd work as an AS series and Schmucks was a loose-format podcast series that he stopped because he got bored.
>>152649359Zach wasn’t made for Hollywood
Something probably happened at that weird party he went too in fance at that castle.
>>152651370Which one you think is funnier is entirely subjective (you're wrong, by the way). The question was who was the stronger of the two as a writing duo when it's clearly Michael. You just shared a bunch of personal opinions and headcanon about your favorite e-buddy. Fact of the matter is Cusack has a stronger track record as a creator and is very clearly committed to animating as a profession.
HE FUCKING WON
>>152649359Zach is obsessed with not wanting to be like the simpsons or rick and morty
>>152649359If you count the episodes that aired so far it is only 25, if you count the 2 that would be released in mid July is 27 which still is less than The Brak Show (AKA the first Adult Swim show to ever be cancelled)
>>152651324They all had real jobs before and/or structure in college to be prepared, no shade even
>>152651623Good
>>152649359They're terminally online given how every person they hired to guest star/animate was either a Youtuber or someone they found on Twitter after liking their fanart they probably saw people comparing the show to Rick & Morty and that got to them
>>152649359>believing the burn out excuseThey're "burnt out" with regards to fans and fandom. Smiling Friends fans are the exact type of people Zach makes fun of with Oney and the rest. Imagine being zach and going through the smiling friends' reddit and seeing people overanylze the show while crying about "lack of female critter representation"If I were them, I'd want to end it now and move on to something else.
Why are all you retards THIS angry and emotional over SF ending? Are you unironically angry that you won't be getting more, lmao? Are Smiling Fags this entitled?It's just a show nigga. go outside.
>>152651795>If I were them, I'd want to end it now and move on to something elseThat would make you a giant bitch AND a huge idiot.
I cant believe they walked away from the money desu thats about it, i would've jewed out personally for that sweet dosh
>>152651863Get over it nigger, the show is done. Move on, and stop crying.
>>152651883I'm not crying about anything. You're just a retard, simple as.
>>152651850Shut up
>>152651896Get over it, bitch baby lol
>>152651873I kinda doubt adult swim pays much, even compared to youtubethey probably provide a lot of resources, which made it worth it because Zach always wanted a cartoon, but the novelty probably wore off
>>152651988>get over you being special edI'll forget about it in minutes. You're stuck like that for life.
I'm curious about two things:-what, if anything, the wb merger had to do with this decision-what happens with the new animation studio Zach specifically set up in LA?
They just don't want to be the zombie Simpsons and they can take their time to do something else and then come back to it if they want to in a couple years.
>>152652300>zombie SimpsonsThe amount of content they put out isn't even equivalent to one season of the Simpsons
>>152649359Michael wishes he still looked like thatDude put on like 50lbs lol
>>152649951>YouTube>100x money
>Still thinking it's really cancelledLol it's just a prank guys
>>152652300That would be a delusional fandom brain reason to quit after 25 episodes it’s not that
>>152649359the difference is smiling friends is funny
>>152652300Nigga the entire show is less than 5 hours. Thats pathetic.
>>152649359you're so used to shows running for over 100 episodes that you don't realize how many is 26
>>152653021I doIt’s less than the brak show
>>152651692Good riddance
>>152651692If they canned the show because of 4chan posts I’ll laugh so goddamn hard.
>>152653023But the Brak Show had an average rating of 7.5/10 whereas Smiling Friends has 8.1/10
>>152653063Primal is going to have 30 separate 22 minute episodes, more than double the runtime of Smiling Friends. On top of a bunch of Emmy wins and an average of 8.6.Quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive.
people acting like the show is ending at its peak are on pure copium
>>152653096>man huffing copium tells everyone else they’re on copium
>>152649359They already had seasons 4-5 lined up, I feel someone got in the way somewhere and won't drag them through the mud over if they quit peacefully. Like unironically my read is the show is kind of agnostic politically and this might have been too triggering for some so-cal types in a cartoon. It's neither woke nor based and that alone might be a problem that for example Mr Frog became a trump analog who was not demonized to hell and back, Charlie is kind of borderline manosphere type (and a big Mr Frog supporter etc) but also not an overt chud either. Just my read however.
>>152653153>Mr frog>not demonizedAnon, did you watch the show? He literally ate a baby and went on many mass murder sprees.
>>152653170Yes and yet won at everything anyway and has a huge fan base supporting him. Obviously plays into how orange man fucked up even if by what traditionally should be the rulebook, he should have been over long before even the 2016 election. yet somehow still is there. Not saying I approve just it is what it is and Mr Frog kind of reflects that, that being technically a really fucking awful person isn't enough to really drive people away especially if the opponent is Jimble. Who also embodied the "what the fuck how is this guy in office" angles too just in a different way. I might even say they took two halves of orangeman and spread them across Mr Frog and Jimble.
>>152650183This is literally going to permanently damage how people see internet personalities working on actual cartoons, and probably warn studious to avoid working with these crowds at all in the future. It's not going away.
>>152649443>I'm not a boy I'm a full grown girl.Prove it, take a poop in front of us!
>>152653357AND TURN IT INTO WINE
>>152653285Shit, you're probably right. I hate when inconsequential shit like this sets a precedent.
>>152653357>>152653378We got a new Smiling Friends episode right he- ohh.
>>152653382TURN THAT POOP INTO WINE!
>>152653153Whoaa, is that a fucking satire of tryhard performative leftists dude!!?!
>>152649359This seems like Zach is the main decider in ending Smiling Friends early. >>152650113Go on frequent long long walks in nature away from technology.I've gone on long walks before with no phone, no music, etc. bare bones and after a while deep thoughts of creativity and ideas begin to manifest.When in doubt, just go for a long walk.
>>152653285This is the part that sucks
>>152653153South Park has been getting away with a more inflammatory version of fence-sitting for almost three decades. I really doubt der libbenz getting triggered was a concern. Also:>Mr. Frog was the only character to get an actual conclusive arc in the showGrim.
>>152649382How much of Rick and Morty is worth watching? I stopped after season four. I didnt hate it but it didnt compare to the first three seasons. My buddy said it got better after they got rid of Justin Roiland.
>>152653772It's "better" now in that it's just boring as ungodly shit instead of being embarrassing to a near-offensive level but it's still not good. They do tend to be willing to actually do more with and at least (pretend) to have some level of development and more plot-heavy episodes though.Everything with Beth is awful however.
>>152649393I thought they were all pretty good besides the Brazil one
>>152653285I don't understand how. They rolled in, made a popular show, and then quit before it got stale. It's not like they had some public roid rage crashout and the show only got as popular (and therefore as profitable) as it was because they were internet personalities to begin with. It's not like they had some roidmonkey crashout either, their announcement video was calm and measured.If you scroll through the comments of the announcement, there's more supportive or sad comments than anything aggressive.
I am once again reminding all of the retards in this thread that they formed their own animation company and are likely ridiculously busy on whatever it is they're working on/producing>bu but but they could have done both!You have no fucking idea what they're working on right now, neither do I. Maybe they didn't want to fuck around with the Paramount/Netflix shit after what happened to South Park. Maybe they wanted to make their own show for themselves that they would own all the rights to before dumping too many of their favorite ideas into something that is only theirs in name. Maybe they want to move into film and make the next Fritz the Cat. Maybe they're working on putting together a staff and will return to Smiling Friends in a few yeara once they've established themselves more. Maybe a lot of things. Whatever the case I find it hard to believe that the "burnout" is fake when their in the midst of founding a fucking animation studio.
>>152649359im sure Michael is mad as fuck, he actually knows how to run a show but I guess Zach couldn't handle it
>>152653885nta but the presentation isn’t the important part, what’s unprofessional is making a successful show, promising two more seasons to the business guys and then reneging.
>>152652945That would actually be pretty in line with Zach shitposting. He also claimed Charlie's girlfriend got killed by a bulldozer and she was not seen for a while but eventually did show back up without any explanation. The ultimate Smiling Friends prank would be if it just started airing and everyone acted like there was no announcement. While funny I don't think they (or AS) would go this far for it. Then again if the show was the only really big bright spot in their lineup the last couple years, which many people think it is (outside here at least), I don't think AS would willingly let it go that easily after ink was already signed for not like but two more seasons. There would have had to have been a fucking catastrophic breakdown behind the scenes to stop the show dead in its tracks.
>>152653743>we never got a DJ Spitz episode>roy dismey was wasted on a short>did not a return of Alan's landlordDude fuck it. Fuck everything. Fuck /co/ I liked this show. Was it 1000/10 best evarrrr no, did it have some weaker episodes yes, but overall still incredibly good and unique.
All of a sudden, people want shows to continue until bad seasons start to exist?
>>152649382>feared becoming successful
>>152654134Anon, the point is they signed on for 2 more seasons and then quit abruptly. In the end making 27 11 minute episodes. Thats not even a single season of the simpsons, the example they used, and the simpsons had a whole bunch of amazing seasons before getting shitty. You’re telling me Smiling Friends can’t match a fraction of that?We have other shows that got much higher praise, lasted way longer and actually won multiple Emmy’s each. Quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive. Of course, you’re a retarded zoomer so I doubt you’re actually arguing in good faith, probably copy pasting some Xitter post. Fucking online retards believing in absolutes because their brains are completely destroyed.
>>152649359They're tired of dealing with their faggot fans
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