Talk about the 4, or at the very least Thing. Everyone loves Ben
>>152683175He suckst. Phillip Masters
>>152683175I had the sickest Thing figure as a kid, love it.
>>152683175Fuckin love Ben. Ben is the best one.my man Chuck McCann absolutely killed it as the Thing, and nobody else will ever hold a candle.
>>152683580bendy-wire fingers. that's kinda smart.
>>152683580Speaking of ToyBiz FF, I just got this bad boy yesterday. It's the only non-Hasbro Legends I've gotten and yeah, the color applications seem better than the current ones.
>>152683175Would the Fantastic Four be improved it was just four clones of Benjamin J. Grimm?
I have wondered a bit why they don't just start at a #1 when a new creative team takes over and end the run and reset to #1 when the team leaves, perhaps even start adding volume numbers or calling it "So and so's Fantastic Four", etc that will make it easier for uninformed readers to jump in
>>152683656That's what they've done ever since Fraction's run. The one outlier was North who has had two separate volumes. On the topic, who would you guys like write FF next.
>>152683653definitely a nice paint job. It's always nice seeing serious detail and quality put into something that still uses the objectively silly 60s color palettes.>>152683655no! the entire point of the FF is their contrast, and how they bounce off of each other. That's why that recent movie was a dumbomination.>>152683656That's like asking why the actors answer fan questions about continuity instead of the writers. People do not have their heads in the right place, and they never will. They're not ... they're too BUSY to understand that creatives are what matters, not franchises or brands or trademarks.
>>152683175
>>152683686anyone but Bendis
>>152683470Based
>>152683175It is a rule that characters with skin made out of rock/stone are always either good or the one with the best design >>152683470I liked the 2005 movie better, unironically
>>152684491It's usually treated as a curse, and usually only good guys get curses, unless the bad guy is using that as his excuse to be bad.that movie was at least trying. I have no fucking idea what this new one was doing with the casting.
>>152683175THING RING DO YOUR THING
>>152683470First Steps was a list provoking movie.
>>152683470both are hot
The Thing is my second favourite Jewish characterThe first is not Magneto by the way but I'll tell if anyone asks
>>152685523Who is it?
>>152683653Annihilus is such an underrated villain so I'm happy he's been getting good mileage in the video games at the moment despite Ryan North's seeming grudge for the character in his writing.
>>152685523Kitty?
https://youtu.be/76JUEyltcd818:34Looks like I just sprayed ya with a can of whoop ass, /co/.
>>152685649you can share links with timestamps, ya know
>>152685536>>152685601ragman. Though Thats only if we don't count Peter Parker.
>>152685712https://youtu.be/76JUEyltcd8?t=18m34s
>>152685736>Thats only if we don't count Peter Parker.Nobody does for good reasons, retard
>>152683782Other than this line was there anything salvageable in Fatn4stic? I liked the initial concept of everyone being scared of their powers. Like Reed trying to free his friend from under a pile of rubble only to realise the rubble IS Ben. And Johnny desperately trying to put out fire and only making things worse. I thought that shit would've been cool.
>>152685748Me neither. And yet the official Marvel wiki for Jewish characters lists him under Quiksilver.
>>152685748yeah that's just silly. Peter's only jewish in the sense that he's a new yorker. That also makes him honorary italian and a little bit russian. It means he's welcome in any deli, but there's no further meaning>>152685736Ragman, huh? interesting. So he predates Venture Bros's schmatte golem?
>>152685736I was expecting Kitty or Mark Spectre
>>152685789blame spider-verse
>>152686112I remember the Snyder movie made Barry jewish. But the actual Flash movie he became some half-mexican mutt. Why do they do this?
>>152683470you arent ever gonna beat prime jessica alba.
>>152685558Annihilus in general tends to be ignored by many FF writers, alongside many of their rogue gallery.
>>152683470Kirby at least played an actual character
>>152683653Old toys are fun to collect. I bought the Toybiz Sentry because somehow Hasbro never did a classic version yet. And I collect weird shit from the 90s like this. Sorry if too unrelated I just love collecting old stuff.
>>152685780The soundtrack isn't bad, altough the '05 and First Steps' themes are far better. Other than that idk, the potential for Teller as The Maker I guess.
>>152685780>Other than this line was there anything salvageable in Fatn4stic?"It's Clobberin Time"The movie's BTS dramaThe iHop promotionThe Mexican KFC promotion
>>152686991>Ben's iconic line being what his olde rbrother used to say right before beating the shit out of him
>>152685780The Thing's transformation in Fant4stic is actually the best one. It definitely plays up the body horror element for Ben as instead of a guy who turns rock solid, he just comes back as a sentient mass of rock that cant even move or open his eyes until after he's spent weeks slowly cracking and breaking himself back into a vaguely human form.
>>152684491At least the 2005 movie actually gave Ben his arc of going from hating what he became to accepting it, the new movie skips far enough ahead that he’s apparently at the end of his arc, albeit with no Alicia as they decided to give him an OC love interest instead for some reason.
>>152683175Kek. He's the worst character in comics. Let me quickly summarize everything that The Thing has ever done: Leeches off Reed when he's not even related to him. Gets in a fight. "Hur duh I'm to ugly and stupid to quit." Loses. Fails to get cured by Reed. Repeat. He's fucking pathetic.
>>152683470Threesome with them
>>152687667Nice seething, troon
>>152687667Bait
>>152683470Alba has trauma from filming this btw
>>152687667
>>152683470would both
>>152685780Amazing movie to fall asleep to. Everything is dimly lit and gray. Don’t think the sun shines once in that movie.In all seriousness, it had an amazing teaser trailerhttps://youtu.be/e-BVs-KCSiA
>>152686158muh diversity
>>152683470Which way, western men?
>>152683470Aren't you forgetting one?
>>152689616That's right, this is Rebecca Staab erasure
What have they altered in modern FF comics to align with the first steps movie?
>>152689932Only with the Silver Surfer.Ben is married to Alicia and has two kids.
>>152687009I don't know why these movies are so paranoid about having him say the line without having to bury it under several layers of irony. It's a classic.
>>152683470I've barely read the comics. Is Sue actually strong enough to shove Galactus around?
>>152690012fun is not allowed in Hollywood movies unless it’s ironic or mean-spirited
>>152689932They are going to retcon the hell out of Doom
>>152683175FF4 is always a rehash of the Kirby years, and when they write something, it's focused on Reed or Thing. The woman is invisible (literally), the fire guy is gay. I just don't like them.
>>152690758You are wrong, retard
>>152683175I don't care for Ben. I only like Reed. And I sometimes jerk off to Sue.
>>152690842It's boring, there's only one good run and the characters aren't interesting. And Sue is so lame, why are there so many lame white women in comic books? For every Emma Frost, you have ten blonde white bitches.
>>152690877Nice cope, faggot.
>>152690891To be honest, nothing from the silver age except French books and communist zines has aged well. They were carried by nostalgia. Or fake nostalgia—there's no one on that site who's 70 years old.
>>152683175Of course everyone loves Ben!He's a rock!!
>>152689932Reed and Sue are still married and happy, their kids haven't been de-aged, if anything Valeria's being drawn more and more like a teenBen is still married to Alicia, got his two adopted alien kids. Also recently got a poodle. I'm personally hoping for Alicia to get pregnant within a couple years IRLJohnny is still single and has a 'stacheThey moved out of NYC for a while but they're back now. Anyway with the teleporters the location was academic.
>>152690957Wrong
>>152685523We need a brown Sephardi Thing to combat Askhenazi over representation. >instead of being an astronaut he'd be the cellphone repair kiosk guy whose there to fix everyone's electronics for best deal>in lieu of clobbering people he has a knife and stabs them>uses bro instead of crumbum>thing form is white so he more resembles a brick of cocaine and still has chest and arm hair>viciously racist against arabs as a human even though he got mistaken for one regularly >instead of yancy street gang he's harassed by Empire State University humanities students and competing Armenian phone salesmanThey also need to make Doom more authentically Romani so now he'll wear a wife beater over his armor, live in a tent, and plan to steal all the world's chickens. He sabotages the shuttle because he was busking outside it and Reed wouldn't lay him.
The design was great but his voice did not suit Ben Grimm at all
>>152689932Do people still like to read Marvel comics nowadays?
>>152692916Reddit is single-handedly keeping current Marvel afloat.
>>152689932Synergy doesn't happen as often as you think it does, anon
>>152691973Movie desperately needed more Thing action. Script would have been better had the other heralds like Terrax and Airwalker been fight fodder
>>152693569GOOD
>>152689932Not much other than a female SS, and unlike the movie she's not even Shalla Bal.I fully expect them to fuck up their relationship with Doom for Doomsdsy synergy tho.
>>152690202Pretty much. She's been able to kill Celestials in the comics.
>>152693576If Savage Hulk is truly back in BND, they better have a Thing a vs Hulk fight in some movie in the future. It's a no brainer.
>>152686909I think the Wizard has been treated like a jobber for the past 20 years now in his appearances, Klaw has been mostly busy in every other book possible except Fantastic Four, Mole Man may as well not exist anymore and Red Ghost was dead for a while after his Intelligencia stint plus Psycho-man is pretty sidelined also despite having a lot of interesting things like his technocracy, living in a shrunken realm or his Control Box.
>>152694465Waid's run was probably the last time someone tried to have Wizard as a capable foe. Hickman turned him into a schizo and Slott just had him in one issue. He did set something interesting with Bentley-23 assuming the mantle but North has just ignored it until now.
>>152694496I guess Wizard kinda gets overshadowed by Dr Doom and also just the Frightful Four struggles to have a consistent lineup to really make it a definite anti-Fantastic Four alongside just writers not bothering with using him in a serious manner much. Speaking of Anti-FF, it's mental to me that the U-Foes still have never fought them at all despite their concept.
>>152694593O think that the Frightful Four does work better as a sort of underdog group, and the constant rotation (besides Wizard and Pete) can make for a fun dynamic, but the team just gets underutilized a lot of the time. I think that the many writers tend to overlook the FF's rogue gallery given the "Star Trek-ey" Nature of the book. Many stories don't even have a villains and rather focus on the team solving a problem, and in the ocassions they do go against an enemy, writers will feels more drawn to the obvious heavy hitters (aka Doom and Galactus, who are pretty much the big rivals of the team).
>>152685789Quicksilver's not Jewish either. On one of the days Brevoort actually does his job, he had to get an Uncanny Avengers writer to rewrite a script because that guy just assumed Wanda and Pietro were Jewish and had to be told they're not. It seems like a lot of online resources just assumed it too, and have failed to correct themselves despite that official word from Marvel.
What is the run where Reed is the least vanilla and uninteresting? Not counting Ultimate universe Reed
>>152691296>Johnny is still single and has a 'stacheAnd it's making him look really gay. That's probably a just as planned situation.
>>152683175I'll probably try Simonson's run one day, maybe even Byrne's.21st century runs I've read so far are all trash.
>>152695177Why you wanna know?
>>152683175>Everyone loves Bendo they? he is jewish
I do feel bad for Ben when has to listen to Jen's bullshit when he can't even use a normal toilet.
>>152689932Too early to tell, give it another couple years to know for sure.
>>152690845Doom?
>>152687667>t. Hawkeye
I am not the only one who feels like Ben is getting shafted by North, am I? It feels like he jobbed in every fight he was in (up to getting physically manhandled by Doom, who literally NEVER could do that before, even with Silver Surfer's power) under his pen and the mini-arc when he was depowered in OWUD felt like outright character assassination
>>152699173I can easily see them using the fact that we basically know nothing of Reed's momas a gateway to give him some latino heritage
>>152699309Everyone but Sue is shafted by dinosaur comics fag
>>152697826thisthe cope from marvel fans must get harder every time a pedostein comes out of the woodworks
>>152693407Well that's sucks.
>>152684619Yeah pregnant stuff was good.
>>152697826>>152699688People also like Daredevil though, even though he's Catholic.Seems like coming from an organization of child molesters isn't immediately a dealbreaker.
>>152700722What's crazy is Ben didn't really react to seeing her cooch. My head canon is this version of Sue walks around the house naked and everyone's just used to it.
>>152701101Between delivering a child and trying not to get sucked by a black hole, I don't think seeing a pussy would create much of a reaction in you.
>>152699688sorry i’m not a brainwashed terminally online /pol/tard who thinks every single jewish person on planet earth is part of a satanic cabal. the ben grimm character is just a dude from yancy street. go jump off a bridge.
>>152700776your post has them really quiet kek totally shut them down
>>152685523Moon Knight?
>>152699189lolol
>>152701584It doesn't need to be all of them, the ones there are have had enough wealth to ruin the civilised world
>>152701584After you braindead shill
>>152696431Simonson's run is pretty fun. You get some light hearted time travel stories and classic arcs like the first appearance of the New Fantastic Four. Also his Doom design is underrated.
>>152699189If he was Doom, he would've said he jerks off to Reed
>>152683175So here's the thing
>>152704206things have ben grimm lately
>>152704730our morale’s been takin’ a clobberin’
I got Thing to Lord in Rivals
>>152697277Because Reed at his best might be cool to see given so many writers do him boring
>>152683175Has any artist of Ben Grimm mentioned any techniques to drawing his plates? I really like him but whenever I wanna draw him I give up since he's just so tedious to draw.
>>152691973His rivals voice is so much better
>>152705475It's wild how a videogame was the most faithful version of him
>>152706037Chiklis' portrayal was pretty good. His characterization + First Steps' design would be the ideal tho.
>>152683175What so great about the Fantastic Four
>>152683175bro is Rock-Hard
>>152683580Alright that is pretty cool.
>>152686924What is this supposed to be based on? I like the design I just can't pinpoint where it's from.
>>152683782Really? There's a villain group named Frightful?
